that way the rest of us can go on vacation and the rest of us can have food on our table. one of the most important things that we have to address for immigration is updating error legal immigration so that people can into the country through a process and not have to pay smugglers thousands of dollars to try to get to the border and ask for asylum protection. our system is the only thing left to replace our antiquated and dysfunctional legal system. i think republicans and democrats can update the legal immigration to ensure that people have a process to go through in order to into the country. host: i want to you get your discussion -- your opinion on a discussion i capitol hill yesterday. senator mitt romney asked the homeland security secretary weather by an administration decided to halt construction of the border wall between the u.s. and mexico. take a listen. [video clip] >> as senator, i know we will not agree on this issue but the decision with respect to the border wall is not a political decision but a substantive one. the 15 billion dollars that was dedicated

so kind of motivate that investment will help us get these projects done and help us pay for them. >> peter in new hampshire, good morning. you are next up. >> good morning. i'm wondering if ms. frettwell could comment on the civilian conservation corps reestablished with a whole range of additional benefits beyond the management of a public lands forest, such as reduction of incarcerations for low-level crimes where encampments would be established in the wilderness areas, and where health and education opportunities would be provided, they would be paid to, but the money would be held by the treasury until they say a three year contract had been completed whereby they would -- it would provide capital acquisition, or it could also provide family support in the interim, as well as climate mitigations. >> thank you. >> another super interesting suggestion. my concern with that type of ideas is we want to get people out there, wonderful opportunity to take people incarcerated and give them some productive activities to do, teaching them, providing them with education, may be helping th

states are free to use that money for schools, they can use it for all sorts of other things as a result. now you have this debate. one of the things happening this week on capitol hill, jay powell will be testifying in the banking committee on thursday while republicans will be pressing him to put out some markers on inflation. they are trying to find any ammunition they can to defeat this $3 trillion package. democrats will be pushing in the opposite direction and pointing out a lot of economists said most of the inflation we are seeing right now is sort of transitory. it is related to reopening the economy. people having money in their pockets. want to go out and build houses, take vacations, go to restaurants. you are seeing some imbalances in the economy that might not be here in another year. i think this will be the debate you're going to hear in the next several months as they write this reconciliation bill. it sort of sets the top line. lots of pages, lots of wrangling to do. this debate will be republican saying inflation is already bad. we have the tax increase on folks, we ne

they can't fool us. they want americans to believe that the conservative movement is fractured, that we are divided. they want america to believe that this movement is dead. but we are alive and kicking! [applause] and news flash all those haters social communists out there, marxist to fill it -- fill it all in, we are here to save america! and it is the group of patriots here today and the millions across the incredible brave country who are not going to be silenced, and we definitely are not going to seed this fight to the socialists who want to set our nation afire and see it burn. we will stand in this movement along with the brave individuals here in cpac, the brave men and women across this country and with brave leaders and fighters like president trump. he will never give up on this movement that he created across the country of the forgotten men and women, forgotten no more. no president has stood more for the conservative values in america-first policies that we cherish, that our children deser

how many of us across america have actually felt that as they fill their cars up? katrina from idaho. gas is $3.78 a gallon. milk is almost $3 a gallon. we have cut spending at the grocery store a bunch since prices have gone up. no extra outings or eating out. home improvements are on hold until prices come down. mike, a lead pastor at the church. my wife and i can't do as much as we used to do for others. so we're not liking that. we're on a fixed income and working on building a church congregation from scratch. we're seeing many who are going without food, medication, etc. so we're taking food to them to hopefully make their lives easier. . inflation is destroying our financial security. as i watched a clip from the president's town hall last night, i couldn't see a person more out of touch. a small business owner struggling to survive through the pandemic, he has government competing with him with high unemployment and $15 and can't bring people back to work. i wish the president understood what it's like to own a small business. for all the small business own

i think it is very useful for him. >> margaret? >> i agree with john, i don't think the case is going to go a wear, but i don't think it is about the legal issues, necessarily. i think this is part of the broader republican message we are born here, which is these -- we are going to hear, which is these big tech companies are biased against conservatives. i think republicans see that is motivating to their base. even if the case does not go anywhere, it may still accomplish the former president's goals. >> do conservatives have a case that there has been some bias? >> i don't think there has been a solid evidence that shows these companies are biased against conservatives. i think the companies are trying to moderate content, hate speech, inciting violence. and where they draw the line is something i think both people -- people on both sides tend to question. >> i agree with what margaret just said. there have not been strong evidence that these companies are systematically biased against the republican party. the party sees this a

these realities are here with us today. so, madam vice president, across the board, we can't just double down. that's the old stale rhetoric. we have to have a sense of intentionality and responsibility to radically change our vegetation forest management policies; our suppression policies; our pre-positioning policies; the strategies we're engaging the president just laid out on technology; strategies and opportunities to develop partnerships not only with interior and not only with fema, but with the department of defense -- some of those new satellite technologies that have been around, but opportunities to engage in new partnerships with those satellite technologies. the mutual aid system has been stretched in this country. governor brown, how many times i called you last year for resources? inslee, sisolak, polis -- all of you on there -- thank you. but we're stretched. we were calling folks in australia. we were calling folks in canada. we had the pleasure of having folks -- firefighters -- from israel come because we

and when we can provide more details about which ones we'll use we certainly will. this is a priority for the administration. not only do we in the department of defense have a responsibility to these brave men and women and their families, so, too, do we have a responsibility to support the state department as it carries out the president's directive. and of course, even though our mission in afghanistan is not over, i would be remiss if i didn't take the opportunity to honor the american and allied troops that served bravely over the last two decades of war. and those who gave their lives there. we owe them and their families a debt that we can never repay. we know these are difficult times for them, and we will never forget all that they gave for their country. . where we are in afghanistan, let me pass it over to the chairman. governor o'malley: i appreciate your comments and your leadership. and good afternoon to everyone. i want to extend and thank you to all of you because freedom of speech is alive and well and freedom of press. last week, i traveled to norf

thank you for joining us this morning. recently, three states deciding to make decisions about their states when it concerns marijuana laws. can you talk about those states and how that changes? guest: we are at a time of unprecedented momentum behind the movement to legalize marijuana. this is something the majority want to see happen. we have nearly 70% of all americans, regardless of demographic support ending in our failed prohibition. not only do 70 sent -- 70% supported, they live in a state where it is legal. as you alluded to in the past six months, we've seen a lot more states, on board through the legislative process. a lot moved toward it as a ballot initiative. new jersey codified their legalization in the early part of the year. they were followed by new york, new mexico, for ginny. i expect several more states will consider it. it goes to show that the american people are sick and tired of wasting money on this prohibition for a plant that is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco. when colorado and washington

we ask you, then, to teach us this day, teach us good sense and equip us with your knowledge so that we would learn to rely on your guidance and walk in your ways. sometimes in our frustration we forget your promises. sometimes when we are distressed because of overwhelming concerns and entrenched in intractable partisan perspectives we lose sight of your mercy which transcends any human judgment. or we fall prey to our own arrogance and self-preservation and ignore your sovereignty. and so we pray that you would give us strength to loose the bonds of lies and falsehood, pride and conceit which seek to undo us. may your justice anders iny which you wield over all the earth disspell the injury inflicted on us or which we exact on others. may the integrity of your word pierce the hearts of the callus and unfeeling even our own. then may the depth of your love humble us that we would come to know that your gracious plan is more precious than anything we value or devise without your blessing. in the hope of your name we pray. amen. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 11-a of hou

but it is not totally to us. we ask that our federal partners join us in doing what needs to be done year round to prevent catastrophic wildfires. of the 9 million acres at high risk, 60% are on federal land. this makes tools like the good neighbor authority and stewardship contracting more important than ever. the benefits are clear, healthier forests, wildlife habitats, more recreation and good jobs, and less severe wildfires. without this, we can't be successful in our health -- forest health improvements. in closing, i want to thank our federal partners. we have good, collaborative relationships here in montana. i also want to thank governor newsom and governor coxe for sending crews to help with the fires we are currently burning. we have thousands of first responders on the frontlines right now protecting our communities, natural resources and those that have been across montana and the united states. so many people have sacrificed and i can't thank them enough. we can't measure it in dollars spent or acres

tell us what that is. guest: that's a nationally represented survey panel that we feel -- field monthly. we ask voters about the issues of the day. we have about 11,000 people that participate monthly. we are able to use those same people over time to track them, understand their habits, whether it's voting habits, whatever it is. we are able to analyze that data and look at how people change over time. host: we know that polling has not had the greatest reputation over the last eight years or so. tell us about the integrity of this poll and why we should trust it? guest: we work very hard on our methodology to make sure our survey panel is representative of all americans. all have equal opportunity to be selected for this panel. we have special methodologies that make sure our panel represents what all americans look like in the additives -- attitudes of all-americans. we can really get a diversity of opinions across the country. there have been challenges in the past. we feel our survey panel is very rob

and they were smart enough to use us to get money out of us. i think they used enough money that we could have used here. so i'm glad that president biden has done this. thank you. host: from twitter, a viewer saying that three cheers for joe biden for ending this unnecessary war. for glenn, dealing with afghanistan is a lose-lose situation, but will there be another 9/11 as a result of this pullout? also another text from wichita, kansas, vicki saying i'm support , if we have been fighting a civil war forever. there government troops are cowards and run from a fight and that's on them. from kentucky, it should have been gone after we got of some. we can't solve every others -- after we got osama bin laden. we can't solve every other country's problems, let alone our own. we will continue to call -- to take calls until 8:00. let us know what you think about the decision made by president biden to pull out troops in afghanistan. call us and let us know your perspective (202) 748-8000 if you support the decision. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose the

i use the term little c. i'm prepared to look at the right and the people in the ivory towers that say we don't have a worker problem here. all you have to do is just sure you go out and get that workforce. it doesn't exist. get out of the ivory tower and talk to the farmers. go talk to a surviving spouse of a farmer who committed suicide because they couldn't make their generations old farm work anymore. and to the left i would say, go to your local harris teeter like i did over the weekend. i went into the seafood section and i saw east coast wild caught shrimp. $12.99 a pound. red shrimp from argentina $8.99 a pound. immigrant farmworkers are essential to feeding america and farmers are essential to feeding america. we have to get the numbers right. but i want to make it very, very clear. i'm not going to stop talking with members on the other side of the aisle who are serious about fixing this problem and willing to accept a compromise that can get 60 votes in the senate and make progress for the first ti

that has cost us lives. host: you write also "allowing successive presidents to ignore additional checks and balances most egregiously after 9/11." explain that point. guest: bad on congress pit my last chapter is the incredible, shrinking congress. i served in congress for nine years. i love the institution of congress and i have many dear friends that still serve there. the point i make in the book is the business model of congress is broken. the business model of congress is to blame the other side for not solving the problem because if you work with the other side you are dreadful, bipartisan, something you are going to address in your next tax good if you are bipartisan, you often get primary, and that is a word that did not exist in the english language 20 years ago. #two get reelected, so they moved to the left or the right in order to make sure they do not get primary. that has cost us an enormous amount. it used to be back in the day when i was an aide in the united states 70's -- in the 1970's, wor

host: how will you use it, yaya? caller: this year i am not using it. i believe there is supposed to be a stipulation if this becomes permanent, if you have an elder as your dependent, which i have my elderly parents who live off of social security income, if i started claiming them as a dependent, i believe i would be able to benefit from this, but i have not seen that yet. i have only seen it for the child tax credits. host: there was some debate about that last year when it came to stimulus payments for dependents, additional money for dependents in the stimulus payments. i have not heard that for the child tax credit though. that is not an aspect i have explored. caller: i think it is a great idea to creatively distribute tax credits. i just hope that -- i keep hearing people calling it a " freebie" when it is not. republicans should love tax credits! host: this is joe out of north carolina, the line for those who make over $100,000 a year. how much was the check that came in yesterday or that could be coming in? caller: i do not know. i do not have

tell us what your mission is? guest: it is a membership organization all about advancing federal policy solutions and they have decent and affordable homes. host: talk about your organization's latest report. looking at how much it costs across the country to afford living in this country. to afford rent in this country. how do you put this report together? what do you look at? guest: we talk about what we call the housing wage. how much each -- a person would have to earn each hour to be able to afford to rent a modest apartment. the housing wage for a one-bedroom bedroom apartment is $20 an hour. just to rent a modest apartment. clearly this is almost three times as much as the federal minimum wage earned. these are out of reach not just for minimum-wage workers before average renters. it is much higher in many communities throughout the country. host: what is the burden on household? guest: they agree they should not be paying more than 30% of their income towards our rent or housing costs each month to ensure

they don't need us. all of these big bills dealing with international affairs, transportation, they have not negotiated one bit. we were not involved in any of the formation of it. i would suggest to you that it will begin with the majority. the minority is waiting. host: a couple of nominees on the senate side, article -- democrats are calling out senator ted cruz. senator murphy said this about it -- ted cruz is making it very hard on the president. he is holding up every single state department nominee right now. the republican strategy is to try to make it as hard as possible for president biden to manage crises around the world. guest: that is a bogus argument. ted cruz has a philosophical problem. you have people who will be heading up these organizations. one was involved in environmental terrorism thing. you have to dig deeper into who these people are. you have a lot of problems in the state department. that is one of the areas that should've been cleaned up before. they are what is running this

you can text us at (202) 748-8003. the president last week addressed issues, particularly what was going on in cuba. he gave his perspective. i want to play what he had to say and get your perspective. >> the ability to sent remittances back to cuba, it's highly likely the regime would confiscate those remittances or big chunks of it. with regard to the covid problem in cuba, i would be prepared to give vaccine if i was assured that an international organization would administer those vaccines in a way that average citizens would have access. one of the things he did not ask but we are considering is they've cut off access to the internet. we are considering if we have the ability to reinstate that access. host: start with that last first , the internet access and what it does for the people. guest: as i mentioned before, over the last decade, cuba has benefited from the opening up of the internet. this new cultural movement, much of this uprising has really come from the artists, this new generation of cubans that has

they keep us safe. so, just like extra pieces and parts on an airplane, we don't want a galatians we don't need. but when it comes to addressing climate change, regulations are essential. having healthy neighborhoods where things don't stop working is a way to people healthy and working. it's why we have infrastructure like smoke detectors and fire hydrants and all that plumbing. so that firefighters can keep us and the environment we rely on safe. this is where you all come in. members of the subcommittee. we want all the rules we need to create all the systems we need to address climate change. host: that was bill knight, -- bill nye, the science guy, testified before congress. from utah, the congressman who started the conservative climate conference. here's what he had to say on the effort. >> the first tenant is that the climate is changing and that years of the industrial revolution clearly have had an impact and we want to do something about it. i know that people are not used to republicans talk

thank you for being with us today. today we will look forward to hearing your vision to expand access to quality education and help students and schools recover from the pandemic. at the beginning of this administration, you inherited an investigation department that has had four years of moving in the wrong direction. under the trump administration, the department failed to provide meaningful guidance to help students cope with pandemic, they failed to favorably implement the students succeed and they withheld debt relief from hundreds of thousands of students who were defrauded. mr. secretary, under your leadership the biden and hit -- the biden and harris administration has made progress. in march, the administration advanced the american rescue plan act. this package provided the largest one-time federal investment for k-12 education and our nations history. the greatest resources went to the communities with the greatest need. funding has allowed school districts to reopen safely and re--- and remain open. while o

just get us on the field and let us compete and we will win. there are other parts of the world where if you are able to attract private capital, you may not need u.s. government financing, but it is always helpful to have the local u.s. ambassador say this is a trustworthy company. i have seen him work around the world. i am here if you have an issue with the relationship. it helps, but is not a requirement that the u.s. government finance it. i will stop. jonathan: i would like to turn to charlene, related to something we talked about, setting priorities. we had a discussion with usg and allied officials thinking about this. how do we set more specific priorities geographically, territorially? something i hear is the importance of digital infrastructure. charlene, this is something you are well ahead of them thinking about and underscoring the importance of when we were working on that task force report. how has the pandemic affected your assessment of that? where do you see this fitting among u.s. priorities? amb. barshefsky: sorry about tha

tell us what your mission is? guest: it is a membership organization all about advancing federal policy solutions and they have decent and affordable homes. host: talk about your organization's latest report. looking at how much it costs across the country to afford living in this country. to afford rent in this country. how do you put this report together? what do you look at? guest: we talk about what we call the housing wage. how much each -- a person would have to earn each hour to be able to afford to rent a modest apartment. the housing wage for a one-bedroom bedroom apartment is $20 an hour. just to rent a modest apartment. clearly this is almost three times as much as the federal minimum wage earned. these are out of reach not just for minimum-wage workers before average renters. it is much higher in many communities throughout the country. host: what is the burden on household? guest: they agree they should not be paying more than 30% of their income towards our rent or housing costs each month to ensure

we used absentee violence -- we used absentee alex. it's -- ballots. we organized in this state against the tea party libertarians and the qanon freaks. we were part of the lincoln project and let's vote and we deliberately make sure that we turned out as many people. a lot of people turned over to independent because they could not happen -- a lot of people changed over to independent in 2018 because they cannot handle what was going on. i'm hoping, i'm praying that our investigations get to these people because they were tied very heavily with the q1 and the insurrection. i don't care -- the qanon and the insurrection. i don't care what anyone says. host: go ahead and respond. guest: i think you make a really good point about independents. that was a group that beau biden won in this election. -- joe biden won in this election. democrats voted more than 90% for the democratic candidates. in this election, people who don't lean toward either party or support either party in that vote went to joe biden. host: let's talk to jeff who is calling from flor

you can also send us a text message, tell us your first name and when you are texting from. good friday morning, a lot to get to. thank you very much for being with us. we want to begin with some of the headlines. usa today, the makeshift memorial in surfside, florida as the death toll continues to rise. president biden at the site yesterday paying respect to the family members who lost loved ones. it has been eight days since the south tower collapsed. from page of the washington post, prosecutors allege fraud at the trump firm, allen weisselberg. the manhattan das calling it a payment scheme and tax fraud. from page of the washington times, supreme court ruling upholding arizona's election law after the challenge by the committee. pelosi names cheney to serve on the riot committee. statements from the wyoming republican liz cheney, she said i am honored to serve on the select committee. congress is obligated to conduct a full investigation into the most serious attack on our capital since 1814 -- capitol since 1814. what about the house republican leader, kevin mccarthy? h

cardona: 20% stop using the voucher after a year. 22% did not use them at all. we will get that over to you. i went to a school that currently now is 80% poverty rate. we cannot give those schools the tools they need to be successful. that is what -- >> i'm going to run out of time. this has been going on too long. the answers are not working. we have too many little kids who will never have an opportunity to read and write or to have the conversation we are having now because they never learn how to think. please address this. this is a major issue. when to make sure -- thank you so much. >> i would like to recognize ms. palmer for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman. thank you, mr. secretary for joining us today. it is really exciting to have the opportunity to hear from you, the department's priorities and some of the highlights of the things you all have been up to. i want to start off by acknowledging the steps the department has taken on improving the existing debt cancellation programs targeted at certain populations of borrowers so that the severely dis

guest: thank you for having us. host: the house is about to gamble and, live coverage right here on c-span. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., july 27, 2021, i hereby appoint the honorable henry cuellar to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 4, 2021, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties. with time equally allocated bet

you can text us at (202) 748-8003. the president last week addressed issues, particularly what was going on in cuba. he gave his perspective. i want to play what he had to say and get your perspective. >> the ability to sent remittances back to cuba, it's highly likely the regime would confiscate those remittances or big chunks of it. with regard to the covid problem in cuba, i would be prepared to give vaccine if i was assured that an international organization would administer those vaccines in a way that average citizens would have access. one of the things he did not ask but we are considering is they've cut off access to the internet. we are considering if we have the ability to reinstate that access. host: start with that last first , the internet access and what it does for the people. guest: as i mentioned before, over the last decade, cuba has benefited from the opening up of the internet. this new cultural movement, much of this uprising has really come from the artists, this new generation of cubans that has

use a little bit of logic here. we do not need another problem, we need to solve some of these problems we have now in this country. host: is a legalizing marijuana something that you would be ok with the background -- with? caller: no. we have other serious problems affecting this country. we do not need to be handling that kind of an issue right now. host: it was chuck schumer standing with several democratic colleagues to discuss the rollout of a trapped bill that he -- of a draft bill to legalize marijuana federally. this was chuck schumer on capitol hill yesterday. [video clip] >> the war on drugs has been a war on people, particular people of color. the cannabis administration and opportunity act would help put a end to the unfair targeting and treatment of communities of color by removing cannabis from the federal list of controlled substances. this is an idea -- it is not just an idea of whose time has come, it is long overdue. we have all seen the agony of a young person, arrested, with a small amount of ma

are you with us? >> it doesn't look like it. >> we will try to get somebody to see if his electronics are hooked up correctly. >> mr. chairman. i am back. i apologize there are terrible storms going through right now. >> just in time then. thank you for your testimony the homebuyers face to save for down payments and tax incentives and mile down payments are critical there are other structural barriers such as low credit scores, student loan debt debt to income ratios appear to high even mortgage documents are only in english and in your testimony you note a healthy tax deduction turned into tax credits would be better targeted assistance to lower and middle income people to earn their first home so what action could congress take and also what my colleagues said about the deduction about how this would work in my district in southern california that has been hit so hard by that 10000-dollar deduction? >> yes. we believe the recent changes to the tax code have rented the mortgage interest deduction co

glad to have you with us. a reminder that our viewers in britain and elsewhere can stream us anytime at c-span.org. let's get started on bipartisanship. is seeking bipartisanship a worthy goal? it is not moving forward on the legislation. the loan island of bipartisanship in a c have division. -- sea of division. negotiators may be invested in seeing it through to the finish, but even if they are successful, it is a one-off exercise at a time when the gulf continues to widen. an infrastructure packet should be the easiest. the need for repair and upgrading roads and bridges and the like is evident and political benefits to politicians are indisputable, which is by members of both parties have talked about it for years. in today's climate, nothing is easy and the path for an infrastructure bill remains uncertain. as amy walter wrote, if the infrastructure package does reach biden's desk, it is likely to be the last such major initiative. success on the package would not foreshadow a shift back to an earlier era

charter is connecting us. ? charter communications supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers. giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪ the house select committee on the climate crisis held a hearing on environmental justice with testimony about the burden placed on poor communities as temperatures and weather patterns change. the cost of promoting clean energy and related jobs. this is an hour and 45 minutes. >> good afternoon everyone. thank you for joining us at this remote hearing today. the west faced an unprecedented heat wave. it tragically took the lives of nearly 200 americans. the extreme heat capped the hottest tunes in our nations history. it would have been virtually impossible without the influence of human caused climate change. this week, unfortunately, a new and dangerous heatwave is threatening, sparking wildfires, straining grades, putting more lives in danger. on the east coast, waist deep water to reach the new york city subway after heavy rain flood

as jill says often, any country that out-educates us is going to out-compete us. we have to build for the 21st century. the rest of the world is not waiting around. the bipartisan infrastructure agreement we just reached is going to deliver reliable high-speed internet to every american, every single american. they are going to be affordable in rural and urban areas. of the many things, of the many tough images of the past year were children sitting in cars and fast food parking lots because it was the only place they could get a wi-fi connection for remote schooling. if we did not know it before, we do now -- high-speed internet is essential, like electricity and clean water. speaking of clean water, this agreement that we put together will put americans to work and good paying union jobs replacing 100% of lea waterd pipes in this country. 100 percent. right now, there are 400,000 schools and some of you teach in them, 400 thousand schools and childcare centers with lead pipes. we know even low levels of lead can cause behavioral and learning children -- problems

there's a high rate of opioid use in drug overdoses. there are adverse health impacts in our communities compared to our surrounding regions. and much more. the impacts are not a result of climate change, as my colleagues would like you to believe. rather, they are caused by the policies of destroying energy communities. injustice is what we are here to talk to today. where is the justice for the communities that have been left behind by these policies? energy poverty and poverty caused by dangerous policies must be considered by this committee. we are never going to have those discussions if we continue to have -- [inaudible] this council stated that projects like carbon capture, nuclear power, or any improvement would not benefit communities. we should all be concerned with this. these are the principles that are supposed to guide the administration. if we continue down the same radical path, we will only put more people at risk. mr. hawley, energy poverty is a really -- a very real and communities experience it. how can the policies

. >> david stewart used to practice law in washington dc. he gave that up 15 years ago to write history. this first book was about the constitutional convention. it is called the summer of 1787. a year later, he wrote about the trial of andrew johnson. then he focused on aaron burr and james madison. in 2021, he takes a look at george washington. his mastery of politics. >> historian and attorney on this edition of books. >> the homeland security testified before the senate homeland committee about the president's 2022 budget request. gary peters chaired the hearing. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the committee will come to order. before we begin, i would like to take a moment to recognize the passing of one our colleagues, senator mike enzi. he was a long serving member of this committee, and someone who really embodied the nonpartisan tradition of this committee. he was always a willing partner when it came to commonsense legislative ideas and our thoughts and prayers are with his family. i

we need you guys in that right with us. ok. -- that might with us. and save -- and so they do not say that i am antagonizing, the fight against our values and marxist ideals. we can watch a year of rioting, looting, arson, murder, and that is a peaceful protest, but that only goes one way. we understand that. all the more reason why we need you guys. they cannot cancel all of us. [applause] now if 1, 2, 3 people are the guys that have the guts to run out there and take the arrows, they can try to cancel them, but if we get together and we are all in this, that game is over, folks. right? and that is why it is so awesome to be in some thing like this, thank you for putting this together, it is awesome to have that. it is great to see it. texas is -- has always led the charge. [applause] well, tell about a couple of months ago and then austin took over. i do not know, texas was leading the charge, you are still top 25. we have to work on that because those people have lost their minds. right? the people's republic of california is wonderful, when i go

i do not think having that over to private companies to get us -- is going to get us to where we need to be and it could feel some backlash because of people -- they see a wind developer coming in, making a huge profit off of something that they were not informed about, maybe they are not seeing dollars returned to them in a real way, seeing jobs go to their neighbors or the people around them. why would they support that? that speaks to the needs of structure and infrastructure package that shares those benefits widely. that will get people essay -- a say. over where the job go for these projects. host: let's go to york, pennsylvania on the democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to say thank you for having this platform. i just drove from the houston, texas area to pennsylvania. about two weeks ago. our infrastructure needs help and credibly and i fear almost that unless there is incredible loss of life like a bridge collapses, that our politicians will take heat -- he dealt these important counties. you will see a difference from the west of one state to another

the baseline is, we are used to having a complicated regulatory --in this country. divergences in state law and tort law and consumer protection statutes. there is a level of diversity and complexity that comes with any healthy federalism. that means individual states can set rules through their local populations for citizens and businesses and but with their feet and find a place they like best. that preserves room for regulatory experimentation and learning. these are classic benefits of life in a federal system. but there are limits to what the federal constitution will tolerate. on two occasions in history, the emergence or integrity of a national economic space has been seriously jeopardized by diversion state regulations. one was the articles of confederation in 1780, when states adopted a variety of inconsistent or conflicting trade regulations that field political discontent. -- that fueled local discontent. in the last two decades of the 19th century national market was emerging, railroads and telegraph. that system faced the prospects of death by 1000 cuts

>> i would use different language, senator. yes, we do. and if, in fact, people flout our laws we will exercise our enforcement authorities as the law provides. >> okay, so, do we notify states and cities that we are releasing individuals into their jurisdictions? >> there are times when we work very closely with state and local jurisdictions, but to coordinate-- >> are there times when you don't? does every state, does every city know when you are sending a truckload or a busload or a few people into their city, into their jurisdiction, with the notice to appear or notice to report? >> we do not. and there are reasons for that under the law. and let me say that-- >> that's all i need to know, okay. let's talk some more numbers. so if we're at 173,000 people released in the interior for the six months and multiply by two, 346,000 people. a recent report, and this is anecdotally as well. we're hearing that on average about 750 to 1,000 known got-aways per day on top of the apprehensions, 750 to a thousand known got-aways. we don't know how