what is the worst case scenario here not just for the uk, but for the rest of the world? >> for the rest of the world i think the worst case is a new variant. and as you say international scientists have been raising the alarm internally here. a group of eminent doctors wrote to downing street saying you're creating a condition where a new variant is likely to rise by having incredibly high infections in a semi vaccinated population so if you get a variant that resists the vaccine it will spread and we've seen that with delta and could happen with a new variant. because the uk is an international travel hub, any variant that comes here will spread globally and we saw in january to march and we cannot risk it. we have a global responsibility. >> i mean, given the uk and the bores johnson gave the world the alpha variant what you're saying is we could get the variant out of uk which is the first variant in the world that defies the vaccine which has about working against all the variants including the delta variant out of india. let me ask you about the breadth of oppositio

boris johnson the uk program announced earlier today that he wants u.s. travelers to be able to come to the uk freely as they did before the pandemic, and as of monday, the 2nd of august, those restrictions on quarantining will be lifted, as long as they've been double vaxed and the vaccines have been approved by the fda or the european medical agency. prior to this, that means if you were traveling in from the united states, which is an amber country, all the countries have been divided into color codes and the u.s. was an amber country, it means you have to quarantine for ten days, and obviously that put a lot of tourists off coming to the uk, if you had to stay at home or at a hotel for ten days before even starting your holiday. but now, as long as you've got the double vaccine, you can enter england before leaving the united states, you still have to do a pcr test to make sure you're negative and on your second day of arrival in england, you still have to take another pcr test to make sure you didn't contract it but otherwise, you can travel here fre

see what's happening in the uk, should give us a little bit of comfort. it seems like it part it's because, this virus is so rapidly spreading. it's one of those crazy wildfires that burns do all the tinder really really quickly and then burns itself out, that's the kind of fire that i start when i'm cooking, and i can't keep the flames going maybe that's what we're seeing here. >> we've also seen interest in vaccines in terms of google searches going. up we've seen republicans put their shoulders through the, we'll wear places where they had him in doing. that in these are just headlines from today. about requirements. the va becomes the first federal agency to mandate for health care workers. new york city will require vaccines or weekly test for hundreds of thousands of city workers. california's requiring state employees, predicting significant rise in hospitalizations. what do you make of this move toward in, we stealth care, settings in public employment settings requirements for vaccination? >> if you want to go to the hospital be taken care of by

how much our curve will like the uk? but the best-case scenario, the one that we can hope for, is an outbreak that dissipates just as quickly as it broke out. andy slavitt is the former white house senior adviser for the covid response. author of "preventable: the inside story of how leadership failures, politics, and selfishness doomed the u.s. coronavirus response." and he joins me now. and andy, let's talk about that -- that kind of crystal ball of -- of the uk, which has been ahead of us in delta. is a very vaccinated society. you know, in -- in relative terms to other countries. still, got hit pretty hard. kept deaths much further down than the last wave. and now, seems to be on the decline. what do you make of it? and what it portends for us? >> it is good news, chris. and it's exactly what we observed in india. and the reason that's good news for us is because as you say, the uk has more vaccinations than we do. but we have many-more vaccinations than india. and india saw the exact-same curve. so what it implies i

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close to is gyro >> the interview, as it is on the recording would not be legal in the uk. but evidence would not be admitted in a trial. >> this is andy griffith, 30 years as a detective in the uk's police department, recognized for is investigative interviews. when griffiths was a rookie, british interrogation rules were much like they are in the u.s.. but they are not anymore. >> what happened to precipitate these changes in the united kingdom? >> change really came about through problems. >> like a national scandal after a series of high-profile false confessions, including an arson murder case eerily similar to robert davis's. >> the government of the day instigated a whole review of the way that prisoners were dealt with in custody. >> the result? a complete overhaul of the system. every officer in the uk retrained, to rigorous standards that applied in every region of the country. strict rules were put in place for suspect interviews, all interviews and serious cases, video recording. >> there are two cameras out there. one gives a head and shoulders shot of the inte

i have to start in the uk, things got so bad in the uk that the u.s. issued a travel advisory warning against traveling to the uk. 69% of the u.s. adults have one dose of the vaccine. ers of in the uk it's 88.3%. we've now seen the number of cases in the united kingdom plummeting even though they eliminated some social distancing rules, the uk, what's going on there that we don't understand? >> yes, ali, thanks for having me back. short answer, no one knows for sure but there are a couple theories, one, kids are out of school. that helps to slow the spread in schools. second, the weather is terrific and people are spending time outdoors and we know this virus doesn't spread outdoors an the third was this huge increase in vaccination in the uk, lots of more people vaccinated. don't want to use the term herd immunity but certainly have high level of the population with herd immunity that's help ag lot. >> the israel health panel is recommending a third shot of covid for older people. i'm skeptical about these things. pfizer saying third shot would be goo

have one first dose of the vaccine, in the uk it's 88.3%. we have now seen the number of cases in the uk plummeting, even though they eliminated some social distance and -- distancing rules. what's going on that we don't understand? >> ali, thank you for having me. a short answer, nobody knows for sure. there are some theories. one is, obviously, kids are out of school, so that help slow down spread in schools. second is, the weather is terrific people are spending time outdoors. we know the virus largely does not spread outdoors. the third is what you just pointed out, which was this huge increase in vaccinations that's not been in the uk. lots more people vaccinated, and i don't want to use the term herd immunity, but they have a high level of population immunity. i think that's also helping them a lot. >> the israeli health panel in israel, is recommending a third shot of covid for older people. oi'm skeptical about these things that pfizer came out with, saying the third dose would be good, if i were the company i would say it's good as

when you look at uk's data, cases went up but the hospitalizations and deaths were not as high. we need to vaccinate people so we don't have the bottom fall out. but we're not in the same place as we were maybe six months ago. >> look, both of you, we've come to rely on as essentially de facto public health officials when we don't have the government public health officials. so dr. hotez, i want to give a minute here. what would you like to see the cdc head, how would you like to see her communicate to the country this change right now? because, you know, look, there are some people that want to play politics with this, those folks are always going to be there. but there is confusion here. how would you like to see this addressed? >> i think we have to recognize that this is not a 30 second unicef commercial. we have to give it time to explain. it is nuanced, it is detailed. it requires going a little bit into the virology. and i think part of the problem with the communication from the federal government, and this goes back to last year, they still want to treat american people

everybody who is italian or from the uk will be watching. you're very welcome if you're not italian or uk to watch it. we have big screens up everywhere. we have a foundation that does great things oceans and rain forests and the climate change. a whole barrage of things. that's what i'll mainly be devoting my time to. whether i'll do another add venn chir, i'm not sure if it will be fair to put my family through another one. i think i've got the record for being pulled out of the sea five times by helicopters. maybe i'll give it a rest for the time being. >> there's two people in the back. >> cnn. you talked about the over view effect of wand wanting to spread that. would you say your experienced that today? if we can go down the line from the passengers today if you brought any momentos with you, i'd love to hear about it. >> i brought some. i think you should always bring momentos. they had the police, the army, everybody out and surrounded the ufo in it. then we had a little e.t. figure that walked out of the ufo. pictures of my mom and

and to me the silver lining, is that example from the uk. and the stated that we got from the kaiser family foundation, -- 80% of covid-19 deaths in the u.s.. we have locally higher rates of vaccination among the most vulnerable population do you anticipate that we are not going to see the kinds of mass hospital overruns and huge death toll at we've seen from other waves? >> yeah that's right chris, the character of the epidemic will be different. the deaths won't be as high, but as i like to point out just looking at deaths alone is a blunt instrument. we've learned so much more about covid-19 in terms of the more subtle yet very severe morbidities, what many people call long haul covid with chronic and long term neurological deficits, heart palpitations, shortness of breath's. they really concern me. a new paper coming out of the oxford university group issuing that long haul covid can actually lead to commonly, gray matter brain degeneration, that almost resembles alzheimer's disease associated with cognitive decline, memory loss. that wa

look, one note of -- when the uk decided to do that first dose and delay the second dose, a number of people, including myself, were concerned and critical of that approach because we knew we had enough vaccine to give two doses at the scheduled times according to the trials. with a you're pointing out, chris, is there's something about that one dose that gave them this opportunity to have a huge amount of uptake. but chris, honestly, they also went through their struggles with delta, with alpha, and had it weeks before us. and what they did do was pretty restrictive. they actually restricted movement and did a lot of things that i think we're right now not even close to doing. limiting indoor capacity. so you have to take into consideration that, yes, what we can learn from them is that if you can get a first dose in as many people as possible, that creates some wall of immunity, but it's not the only one and to your point, you really do need to have two doses and you have to ask, there's a dinners -- difference between having a country that has a national health system, a centralize

head to the uk, that compares to 88% there in the uk and folks were perhaps more recently vaccinated. they didn't have the january benchmark there. how do you interpret this? why such a huge discrepancy? >> well, alex, there's been -- with the studies coming out of israel, there's been -- i don't think that the data has been fully vetted and really dissected the way we would like to be able to say was there something about the population that was different, or is there some explanation for this other than to say the vaccines are not, and never were, 100% protective against symptoatic infection. the efficacy was against really very symptomatic disease and hospitalization and death. so people do need to remember that when we're quoting these numbers that if you are vaccinated you may still become mildly symptomatic from covid-19, but you will not end up in the hospital. and the truth is we don't know the true number here, the prevalence of these breakthrough infections with mild or asymptomatic disease because the cdc is not tracking that here. i can't necessarily give you a precise ans

so i'm wondering, as you look at the numbers from the uk if there's something we can do learning from them? >> yes chris, we can always. learn look, one note of when the uk decided to do that for his dose and delaying the for second dose, and number of people, including myself, were concerned and critical of that approach because we knew that we had the vaccines to get them the second dose at the appointed time. there's something about that one dose that gave him this opportunity to have a huge amount of uptake. but chris, honestly, they also went through their struggles with delta, with alpha, and had it just weeks before us. and what they did do was pretty restrictive. they actually restricted movement, they did a lot of things that i think we are right now not even close to doing. limiting indoor capacity. so you have to take into consideration that, yes, we can learn from them is that if you can get a first dose on as many people of as possible, it creates some wall of immunity, but it's not everything. and to your point, you really have to have two doses. and yet to ask, there's

look, the uk is still seeing something like 53,000 new cases per day. that's a staggering 43% rise on last week alone. and they're saying that this is just too soon to do this. and if you needed any evidence for that, look at the health secretary. he has been double vaccinated. he has probably taken all the precautions that are necessary to be taken, but he still has contracted the virus. so he has to isolate. the prime minister was in contact with him on friday night. so he has to isolate, as does the chancellor. so on the eve of so-called freedom day, some of the most senior politicians in this country are forced to go into isolation after one of them contracted the virus. and there's also another major concern. they're saying that, you know, too many restrictions are being lifted. as of tomorrow, nightclubs can fully open. health experts have said that's just too soon. young people go to nightclubs and they spread the virus. >> wow, all right. ali arouzi in hon done with stunning developments there. thank you so much. >>> big concerns in this country

on july 19, the whole world is watching what the uk is going to do, drop all of its covid restrictions. quite a risky experiment there in the middle of the horrific delta wave. we're seeing with a rapid vaccine rollout, is about 68% have had double jabs. but there is relief between the infections and we believe that we're heading in the right direction, no people want to get back to his normal life as possible. but we also know that this is something that we're going to have to tap into the group at sometimes or cautiously optimistic, but will obviously continue to monitor the. situation >> i do hope that you're right, it is a big risk, but anyways on today's subject thank you for being with us, i hope you'll come back and will continue have this conversation better circumstances. >> when i come home, it will be. thanks for having me on the show. >> there has to, it has to. thank you for coming on, thank you all at home for watching, we will be right back here next sunday, 8 pm eastern. you can catch me monday through thursday live at 7 pm eastern on the choice, on nbc's streaming chan

you live in the uk. is the trophy going back to italy? is it going home to italy? >> reporter: live is a relative term. i live in the field. i don't know. as you said, england sort of messes this up all the time. so is it coming home? i'm not sure. we'll see. at least playing with some flare. i don't know. but i do think sir richard branson, and this is now me completely guessing and making things up on national tv. i think he wants to get back and watch the game. how cool is it as a billionaire, i have to get my space trip out of the way. >> oh, what a life. cal perry, 5:30 a.m. local a time, you've got jokes. you can do some soccer predictions. is there anything you want do? >> oh, the flex on branson. >> reporter: i'm not going to space today unfortunately. i did try to trick my kids and tell them i'm not going to space. i'm not actually going to space. >> cal perry, great to see you. and, of course, don't forget to tune into our special extended coverage of the virgin galactic test space flight. you can watch it in orbit and post flight commentary from richard

it's not going away. >> i do just want to read a statement we did get from the uk. we asked the british government about jamaica's pending request. a spokesman for the foreign commonwealth and development office said there is no disputing the horrors of what occurred during the slave trade in the colonial period. while we acknowledge that the wounds run very deep, we believe that the most effective way for the the uk today to respond to the cruelty of the past is to ensure that current and future generations do not forget what happened and to address modern day slavery and racism. hasan, that's quite the word salad. that doesn't really say anything. i hear you henry. let me ask you, the frustration, and trust me, henry, i echo your frustration, the nerve, the ka kau kasty of that statement when we set our eyes on the world and how white supremacy is impacting all of us. even what's happening in haiti is a direct result of what came out of europe. what's your thought on their statement and the landscape that we see today? >> well, let's remember that the british gove

security and the uk? >> i would agree that in the sort of not even the long term anymore but the short and medium term, the pandemic and climate change are overwhelming issues. the last six months, going to be six months tomorrow that biden will have been president and the last six months, a lot of it has been focused on u.s./china relations, u.s./russian relations. but the way that america i think can re-establish its global leadership most effectively is providing answers on these two questions because they're the ones with the climate refugees and pandemic refugees that we're seeing. they're the ones that are generating most dislocation, most pain around the world, at the forefront of people's minds. there is going to be a major climate change summit at the end of this year in britain, in glasgow, so far the west has not stumped up the money that it said it was going to stump up to help the front line countries in the developing world cope with climate change. just as it hasn't really stumped up the mo

matt bradley, to the uk, we talk about the mixed messaging. people getting vaccinated, problems persisting. you have london declaring this freedom day, this day of freedom where you are in the uk but at the same time the prime minister in isolation because of exposure. matt? >> reporter: yes, hallie, happy freedom day. you're looking behind me, people aren't exactly dancing in the streets, not jumping for joy, because a lot of these restrictions have been lifted very gradually, ever since january, ever since they really started the most recent set of lockdowns and it's also because a lot of britains say they're not ready. there was a recent poll that said more than 50% of british people said lifting of restrictions is coming too soon and you can still see that, i was walking around today, i took an uber here. i was wearing a mask in my uber, even though this is the first day that all legal mask restrictions have been lifted. the driver was wearing a mask and a lot of the shops around here, everybody is wearing masks. all of this has gone from

augury shun they note instances of where they use that relationship with trump to advocate for the uk-y without disclosing it apparently, during the 2016 campaign barrack allegedly had language inserted into one of trump's speeches after request of a uae official. >> we will work with our gulf allies to develop a positive in energy relationship as part of our anti-terrorism strategy will work with them because we have to knock out terrorism. . >> the indictment notes that after the speech and emerati official email tom barrack saying that he mentioned the gulf allies which is great, adding congrats on the great job today everybody here are happy with the results. federal prosecutors say barracks effort continued after the inauguration as he pushed uae interest to the trump white house, he's also accused of giving the uae sensitive non public information and accused of meeting and assisting senior leaders from saudi arabia. and because he has the means and the potential motive the u.s. government says tom up barrack is now a flight risk. they want him to remain in custody, he's being det

>> even months before gb news was launched, it was being trailed in the uk media as a fox news style channel. and fox news is notorious worldwide for racism, and misinformation. >> since its first, dazed tv news audience figures have slumped by 48% to 26,000. but they've held on to enough viewers to fight the culture wars. >> we have an audience because they're sick and tired of not being able to talk about how they feel about issues without being canceled. >> well they're not gonna be canceled, they're just about to go on air. matt bradley, thank you. there's more with the 11th hour ahead. stay with us. walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fight at alz.org/walk hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow. so sudden. um, we're not about to have the "we need life insurance" conversation again, are we? no, we're having the "we're getting coverage so we don't have to worry about it" conversation.

the uk's second covid wave, the pre-vaccine one on the left side. on the left, left part of that, those are cases and on the right the deaths. you see that sort of neat correlation, right, between cases on the left, deaths on the right. okay. now look to the chart of the third wave. that's post-vaccine. that's in blueish gray. the death toll, the cases grow and grow and grow and the deaths barely budge. the only disparity in deaths are the vaccines. in the uk nearly 70% of people are fully vaccinated. now, compare that to here in the u.s. where only about half of the full population is fully vaccinated. millions of children are still ineligible to receive the vaccine, so as you prepare to go back to school parents are waking up to stories like this from "the new york times." 31 children test positive for coronavirus at summer camp. all 31 children who tested positive are under the age of 12, making them too young to receive vaccines in the u.s. now, fortunately, none of the kids got seriously ill. but as we battle the highly contagious delta variant

it's wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. >>> the uk now has a conservative news channel of its own, hitting on all the familiar hot topics, like cancel culture. here's the story. >> reporter: britain has given america the beatles, james bond and harry potter. so now a grateful america is finally returning the favor. >> we need to kill them. we need to kill them. >> reporter: with the gift of right-wing cable punditry. >> i don't vet the information on this program that i give out. >> reporter: since gb news debuted last month, it's been called fox news with a british accent, defying britain's stuffy tv news culture. >> it's not going to be a dull program. >> tell me how it is. >> disruptive and constructive. >> it's first few days were definitely disruptive. >> welcome back to tonight live. >> reporter: gb news' opening ratings beat sky news. and the founder andrew neil offered a new idea for british tv. >> we're not a rolling news channel, nor will we be providing conventional news bulletins. >> reporter: like american news cable channels, it's about personalities and part

but also, when we think about how this reflects the figures of the uk, so right now in the uk, 80% of black children in england do not swim. and that is 79% of asian children as well do not swim. so decisions like that put forward by them would make this gap even wider. and it would -- it's already a wide gap. it will widen this even more. we don't want that. we don't want to have the young people feel like they are intentionally precluded from a sport and actually the only sport that is also a life skill that goes as far as reducing drowning rates and working towards ensuring that they stay alive. >> yeah. >> besides just competing in the sport. >> staggering numbers and very important point that you made. there it makes you wonder generally what are some of the other barrier that's you see that prevent more representation of people of color in the world of competitive swimming? why don't we see that balance more? >> well, we don't see that balance more and i think that that is the case with the statement. so the statements that they didn't see the current elite using caps of the con

johnson said a final decision would come on july 12th. >>> also in the uk, the duchess of cambridge is self-isolating at coming into contact with a person who tested positive for covid-19. she's not experiencing any symptoms, but she's following government guidelines by staying home for 10 days. she attended a golf match and soccer match. she was tested before each one. she has not disclose wrid she may have been exposed to the virus. >>> closer to home after nearly 16 months, pandemic travel restrictions between canada and the u.s. began to loosen yesterday. now canadian citizens can skip a 14-day quarantine. eligible air travelers no longer have to spend three days in the country at a government-approved hotel. the barring of trips will remain inplace until at least jewel 21st. >>> campaigns are gearing up for the 2022 midterms but republican campaigns are increasingly focused on the last election. we'll explain that next. >>> plus, it's been six months since the capitol insurrection, and the justice department is still searching for rioters involves in the attack. we're going to hav

. >>> the state department and cdc both issued their highest warning about traveling to the uk. yesterday's warning comes as england lifted its restrictions. the uk added 54,000 new cases saturday and 48,000 on sunday, more than indonesia, the current pandemic epicenter. >>> meanwhile canada is easing restrictions at the border next month, allowing fully vaccinated u.s. visitors to enter for non-essential travel. it takes effect august 9th follow criticism of u.s. lawmakers. travelers must be fully vaccinated, iowa sim matic, and a covid test taken within 72 hours of arrival. they must present the original copy at the border. canada plans to open its borders to visitors from all country in september. >>> still ahead, president biden addresses voters who were worried about inflation. but could rising prices hurt extras. >>> plus, another texas democrat who fled the state tests positive for covid. we'll be joined by one of their texas colleagues currently in washington, but before we go to break, we want to know just why are you still awake right now. email your reasons to "way to

says a 22-year-old uk man named joseph o'connor who was arrested today in spain on a u.s. warrant. the government says that he's the one who did this and he did it just to try to get the money, but it was very disruptive because twitter had to shut down those actual accounts and then twitter discovered whoever was doing this had actually gotten somehow inside its system and couldn't get to any accounts. so in july 2020 all twitter was closed until we can fix this. >> wow. they managed to track him down or this is the allegation. >> all, but one and those were president trump's. >> pete williams, matt miller, and thank you all for helping us out today. their ticket out. afghans, a total of 2500 people, being evacuated to a base in virginia amid taliban threat against their lives. what happens to those left behind. abigail spanberger joins me next. we'll be right back. the instant air purifier removes 99.9% of the virus that causes covid-19 from treated air. so you can breathe easier, knowing that you and your family have added protection. ♪ ♪ one, two! one, two, three! only pay

then in the uk, prime minister boris johnson announcing most covid restrictions will be lifted. with 7, i want to bring in our msnbc contributors. welcome to you both. talk to us about what is happening in the uk right now when it comes to opening post pandemic despite the surge they are seeing with the delta variant, how do they make sure they don't see an even bigger one? >> hey, well, boris johnson is embarking on the final phase of the very ambitious road map to get rid of pretty much all restrictions in the country bite 19th of june. they are having a meeting next month, and if it's approved it will be no limits on social contact, and that means groups of any size can meet indoors or outdoors, and no more social distancing, you don't have to keep six feet from anybody, and no caps on concerts, large events, sports events, theaters, all of these sorts of things can have full capacity. there will be no legal requirements to wear a mask in public. transport in shops and museums and other outdoor venues. the government won't require anybody to work from home anymore, either, an

in the uk, their chief health expert says 60% of those hospitalized right now have been double vaccinated. >> you know, the thing is about this delta variant is that it is so much more transmissible. why is it more transmissible? because there's so much more virus being shed. it's approximately 1,000 times more viral particles being shed in a case infected with delta than previous strains or variants. when you have so much virus shedding, it's so much easier for people to catch this virus and to spread it on to others. and that's true of vaccinated and unvaccinated. now, if you are vaccinated, you are very likely protected against these most severe outcomes, severe disease, hospitalization, and death. and that's particularly true with the vaccines that we have approved here in the united states. but the uk has been largely using astrazeneca vaccine, so we're probably seeing a higher rate of breakthrough there and maybe that's what we're seeing. now, we don't have enough information yet to make any definitive statement. but that's what we're guessing is the case. as i said, if you are vacc

look at what's happening in some countries, the uk, which is close to herd immunity, they're talking about putting the pandemic in the rear view mirror now with 87% of the uk having antibodies to covid. that's because 67% of the people have been vaccinated. if you can't get more people vaccinated how do we get to where we can lift restrictions, people are going tonight clubs there, doing the things they want to do because enough people have been vaccinated and then you add on to those the people who have had covid or have some kind of antibodies from having covid already. they're getting there. it's remarkable what's happening at the uk in the moment and that's where america needs to get there and we're not going to get there unless we can raise the number on 60%. it's not going to happen. >> mika and i, would gladly go tonight clubs if it was morrison's, a buffet, and done by 5:30 at night and be asleep by 7:00. yes. >> every covid death that is happening right now can be prevented according to the u.s. surgeon general. that's where we are. that's painfully obvious. as we showed you

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however, the uk managed to arrest four of those people so far who were people online being racist and disgusting. they did it once last year. they will play the black national anthem at all league games between 2021. meanwhile, you and i both know, john knows, collin kaepernick was never give an job again. we know that was absurd and made no sense and further more, we just found out this summer through a lawsuit that the nfl has essentially been asserting through documents that black players started out at a lower i intelligence level which is why it's less likely to be compensated for brain injuries. we found out the most racist thing about the league and what we're going to get is the black national anthem. >> i appreciate the points, the rigor you present them with pete and the double talk. i'm going to do a fall back this week because it's special when we have d.j. rosenberg here. i'm going to tell drake's haters to fall back. one of the greatest international artist of our time who continues to give great music to all people and do a lot of interesting stuff and has some of the m

we saw out of israel and the uk the numbers were not as robust anywhere from 64% to preventing infection and around 80% in scotland and in england so that gave people cause for concern but in terms of serious infection it's just as robust, it's just as good so what you're not seeing our hospitalizations and deaths and appreciable degree for being vaccinated but you are seeing some people who are either asymptomatic or have low symptoms and that's something that we're gonna have to continue to watch for particularly for those immunocompromised who may not respond to the vaccine as well. immunocompromised who may noby w exercising common sense means in this. and where are the best environments to slip on a mask. it is not as we have learned the end of the world. doctor please agree to come back on our broadcast whenever you're on with my friend nicole wallace. i stabbed i'm doing and i never missed a conversation. doctor peter hotez has been our guest again tonight. our thanks for taking our questions on this. coming up for us this evening. mr. bezos will be out of the office tomorrow, for

france, the uk, and israel are moving ahead with these boosters. the same dose that they got in the first and second, but a third dose for those special populations and high risk workers. i think that's what a lot of the context was so there's no data to support that the majority of americans who perceive vaccines do not develop sufficient immunity to deal with the delta variant. and i think that that's really the bottom line. >> and let me ask you about three letters there are the coin of your realm. eu, am urgency use authorization. as you know, a lot of the anti-vaxxers, some of them sadly sitting members of congress, are saying that the vaccines we have haven't been approved by the fda. only for emergency use. this is telling the vaccination effort in some places. people are buying into the misinformation. is there any move to get the government to move to give the stamp of approval to vaccines that are in, what's? over 2 million arms? >> yes. it's a great question. and we know that pfizer put in for their approval. the application for full app

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here in the uk where i am, you know, last week the weather was up in the high 80s, early 90s. now it's back down in the 60s. a lot of rain is forecast for the next few days. that's just not normal. >> not at all. many of these buildings and structures over there in germany surviving several world wars but didn't stand a shot at mother nature in 2021. thank you for joining us from london. >>> joining us is a professor of atmospheric science at texas a&m university, andrew dessler. this is the second year in a row, as far as the situation here in the u.s., smoke from the west that has traveled all the way to the east coast between the constant massive wildfires and now the worsening air quality will this be the new norm? same questions that was posed by ali just there. >> yeah, you know, we've had about one degree celsius, two degrees fahrenheit of warming so unfortunately this is not the new normal. the new normal is a lot worse than this. the warming is going to continue. and it's going to continue until we take action. and so, you know, this is a small preview of what's going

will we escape the uk's feet? it's too soon to know. tell me doc, what kinds of patients are walking into your er in seattle these days. and i hesitate to ask your prediction for fall. >> brian, they're primarily young. twenties, thirties, unvaccinated. they're coming in to seek medical care. whether they come and see a dog like me, and icu dot, that depends. usually though, i think -- young people requiring 100 percent oxygen. four i probably tired out your audience showing x-rays. x-rays of these patients, otherwise healthy, are filled with post from covid. they're not clear with you. that's number one. i would say just two feet off what eugene and susan have said, we're talking about disinformation and misinformation, but there's also just confusing information that exists. i look at l.a. county, for example. that decided to do an indoor mask mandate. but with all due respect, i understand wanting to err on the side of caution. but when you make a move like that that's counter to what the cdc has put out there, you have to have sides

the't data from scotland and uk saysot we still have very good efficacy, but it might evolve with new variants, but let's say it went down to 70%. i never heard anybody say this parachute has 70% of protecting me so i would rather fall out of the plane without a parachute on. that's the equivalent. the question of whether people areti making their own choice i they are led astray with the misinformation, are they making the right choice about their health. that's where the a misinformati comes in because the personal choice guided on purveyors of disinformation and on amplification of misinformation. that's why i thinkn it is justo heartbreaking for somebody who is in public health and in medicine. >> understood, all of it. it is something we want to continue to shine as light on make sure people understand. again, i always make a point of saying people can make up their own mind about their health decisions, boright. it is not -- the government has an obligation to make some rules of the road. the press is not here to tell you what to do, but we can report what is ig tworking, wha sa

and the numbers out of the uk and scotland don't back it up. it's much higher. so the company should -- release -- i think the fda and cdc was right to put it back. but it's nuanced because we need a third immunization at some point but not for this particular indication. and then confusing it all is the fact that it was done through emergency use authorization which we've never done for a boost. we need to step up full approval of all vaccines. that has to be a private. >> will that change things for companies where people work at who are now encouraging people to get vaccinated but people saying not getting vaccinated not wearing a mask when i come back to work, too bad for you. my general view if you are not prepared to get vaccinated and not wear a mask it's too bad for you. the company -- no company should have the obligation to have these people come back to work. >> yeah, and this -- and i've been talking to a number of -- i've gotten calls from a number of companies, even some legal counsel from companies. and what they -- they're skittish to demand vacc

is that a common practice or could a krit uk say that is because there is a leadership change or a political change and the department of justice under trump. they want to protect him. now it's different. >> i would expect that there were some criticism of this move by olc, the office of legal counsel. in reality this one is fair and square. the language of this statute is plain. it says that the treasury department shall provide. it doesn't require any sort of awe legitimate purpose. i doesn't even rur good faith. this is a surprising decision to me frankly even when under the trump administration the tax returns were withheld. it is mandatory and not subject to interpretation. olc is correcting an error. i suppose that might open the question about whether olc will be reconsidering any other previously issued memos. most notably, the inability of doj prosecutors to prosecute a sitting president. >> whether or not it was operating in true independence factoring the trump era. of you've been covering donald trump's financial errors. how big of a deal is this move? >> well, i think it's very

will we escape the uk's fate? it's too soon to know. what kinds of patients are walking into your er in seattle these days and i hesitate to ask your prediction for fall. >> they're primarily young. 20s, 30s, unvaccinated that are coming in seeking medical care. whether they come and see a doc like me, an icu doc, that depends. usually, though, i've been -- in both seattle and tucson, young people requiring oxygen. i probably tired out your audience with showing x-rays of these patients, otherwise healthy, are filled with bus -- pus with covid. we're talking about misinformation, but there's also just confusing information that exists. i look at l.a. county that decided to do an indoor masking mandate. with all due respect, i understand wanting to error on the side of caution. but when you make a move like that is counter to what the cdc has put out there, you have to have science to back it up. what do they have? they have a 60%-plus one dose vaccination rate. test positivity, 3% or less. their hospitals are not stressed right now from

, this delta variant for seven months as we watched it rip through india, singapore, israel and the uk and now coming into the united states. this should not be a surprise to us. it's disappointing that news is still being delayed coming out of our public health agencies who i know are working hard to get in front of this virus. we need to be honest. we need to be transparent and we need to be rapid with this communication about this virus. we're learning, as you said, it is more contagious than the previous version of the covid virus. it's more contagious than many viruses we've ever dealt with in the past, in history. but i don't want to get lost in that message the value of the vaccine. so even as we learn and information is revealed about this delta variant, we're also learning that the vaccines are working really, really well at preventing people from dying and from being hospitalized, even though they can still get infected with this virus. >> rick, last year there was the politicalzation of a number of these health agencies including the cdc. there was tension within the cdc abo

two to three times more transmissible than the uk variant, the b.1.1.7, which was more transmissible than the original lineage. so we're looking at something that's up there with chicken pox and not quite measles level, but it's one of the most transmissible viruses we've seen in a long, long time. and as a result, as this virus starts to circulate across the south, where vaccination rates are the lowest, we've got maybe 15%, 16% of adolescents in louisiana, for instance, vaccinated compared to 70% up in the northeast. that's how big a disparity this is among young people. this is going to accelerate across the south, and the big safety signal that i'm worried about is what happens when schools open in a few weeks here in the south. we tend to start earlier than in the northeast and that's where things can go very wrong very quickly. we're already seeing young people getting admitted to the hospital, we've seen pediatric intensive care unit admissions, and that's what i'm looking for closely. so the real takeaway needs to be we have to aggressively vaccinate the south and we have to

when i look at countries like the uk and other places, they haven't taken those surveillance systems down, yasmin. they kept them up and in fact have increased them. >> dr. kavita patel, thank you as always. great to see you, my friend. >>> i want to go now to something that we're monitoring in las vegas, nevada, where the vice president is speaking. i want to take a listen to what she has to say. >> senator jacky rosen, my sister in the senate. congresswoman susie lee. congressman steven horsford. thank you all for your leadership. president douglas mccarron, thank you. vice president frank hawk. and the proud members of the united brother mood and sisterhood of the carpenters.oo sisterhood of the carpenters.ood of the carpenters.hood and sisterhood of the carpenters. so it is so great to be in the house of labor. i always know i'm home in the house of labor, and it is great for us all to be able to spend prior to this holiday weekend together. and, of course, this weekend is the weekend where now in particular all across our nation high school bands will march in parades and famili

>> from studies in israel and the uk, the level of protection of the two dose mrna vaccines, pfizer, biontech and moderna as well, it is lower against actual documented infection cases, around 64%, israel around 80% in england and scotland, robust against serious infection. almost all break through cases are likely not to be serious infections. the question is people who are vaccinated because the delta variant replicates in higher amounts in the nose and mouth, whether vaccinated individuals, even though they're not getting very sick could be passing virus onto other family members, including unvaccinated kids, because with earlier lineage, it seems less problem because the vaccines halted asymptomatic infection. that's going to beg the question whether we need to start considering a third immunization to jack up virus neutralizing antibodies more to prevent that. those decisions are being discussed. >> dr. hotez, thank you very much. >>> going back to colin kaepernick -- to capitol hill after speaker pelosi rejects mccarthy's picks promising him to pull all from the investigation.

to uk and back, they pride themselves in those details. when i was based in london many years ago, you would go through their lounge in london and they had a putting green. just things like that that are unusual and speak to attention to detail. that's what they want to do inside the spaceport. it's a first-class experience. they got the barista there making whatever coffee you want. they have a buffet with whole foods type of selections. really from top to bottom they try to make this an exquisite experience. >> i did fly virgin atlantic round trip to london and it was a lovely experience. kudos for him. nicholas, i understand you can't stay with us too much longer. i want to ask you -- he did have to leave unfortunately. just found out. that's okay. got a bunch of experts still with us. joan, let me ask you from your perspective as an astronaut, what do you make of them choosing to launch from a plane instead of a typical ground launch? i would love to know your experience and get a sense of what it is like to be in space and when they t