those questions will not be answered by the federal criminal trial of ian rogers and jarrett kirkland, who were indicted today, by a federal grand jury in california on federal charges. including that they quote, did knowingly conspire to destroy by fire or explosive a building -- to which, the john albertan democratic headquarters in sacramento, california. five days before president biden's eggnog ration, the fbi raided ian rogers home and business where they quote, recovered several guns and five pipe bombs. rodgers admitted making the pipe bombs for what he said was his own entertainment. the fbi found text messages on ian rogers phone, to and from his now cool defendant, gerald kirkland. we can attack twitter or the democrats. you pick. i think we can attack either, easily. let's go after soros we. can attack twitter and democrats, easy, right now. burn their crowd down. i want to blow up the democrat building bad. planned attack. i'm thinking sacramento office, first target. sack office is the sacramento office of the democratic party. the jury in this criminal trial will be abl

the fbi found text messages on ian rogers' phone to and from his now codefendant, jarrod copeland. we can attack twitter or the democrats you pick. i think we can attack either easily. let's go after soros. we can attack twitter and democrats easy right now burn they're crap down. i want to blow up a democrat building bad. plan attack, i'm thinking sac office, first target. sac office, meaning sacramento office of the democratic party. the jury in this criminal trial will be able to tell us if rogers and copeland are guilty of conspiring to bomb the democratic party headquarters, but that jury will not be able to tell us why they wanted to do i. and that jury will not be able to tell us how many other trump supporters want to kill us, how many trump supporters want to kill the people working at twitter, how many trump supporters want to kill the people working at democratic party headquarters, how many trump supporters want to kill for donald trump. we don't know. we just know, according to their own words, on january 6th -- and the evidence in this california case, that the number

authorities already caught up to this man, ian rogers, from napa on january 15th. they searched his home and his business, british auto repair, where they seized a collection of guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition and five pipe bombs. the indictment describes how rogers communicated with 37-year-old jarrod copeland on multiple messaging platforms. authorities say rogers wrote i want to blow up a democrat building bad. copeland responding, i agree, plan attack. >> the rhetoric that he's espousing on his chat that, you know, talked about all the hate and discontent he had for if, you know, if trump didn't win the election. i mean, those kind of things, people take that real seriously today. >> reporter: kpix security analyst and former fbi agent jeff hart believes someone on the inside came forward to authorities. >> these domestic terrorism cases are usually initiated by an undercover operation or an informant or somebody tipping somebody off. >> reporter: dojha rs to copelandfter we go to war. the 20th was inauguration day as president joe biden took over the w

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers and jared copeland of vallejo had hoped the bombing would be the first in a series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges, including conspiracy to destroy by fire, or explosive, a building. rogers is also charged with unregistered destructive vices and three counts of possession of machine guns. in january law enforcement officers searched rogers home and seized 55 rooms, thousands of rounds of ammunition's and three pipe bombs. >>> authorities believe they ever did another mass shooting after they arrested a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charlie martinez was taken into custody friday after a campbell business owner reported someone lurking around her parking lot, peering into cars. the business owner shared surveillance video with abc7 news. police detained martinez and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck including a pipe bomb, two illegal ar- 15 style rifle, and a manifesto which stated a desire to wipe out the black, hispanic and jewish populations. >> a lot of bad things could have happene

rogers' house. it says trumps everything, the card number 45454545, sort of sardonic but gives you insight into their politics. >> yeah, yeah. >> what is the sort of process from here? i mean this is a federal charge, right? you have u.s. attorneys on this. these gentlemen, i imagine, are being held right now? >> well, rogers is being held in napa county, or he was arrested there on state and federal charges. they were both indicted july 7th. the indictment was unsealed earlier this week. mr. copeland was arrested here in sacramento. he had moved here recently. he is described as an army deserter and steroid abuser who was living in an apartment here in sacramento when he was arrested. he was in our jail briefly and he is being taken to san francisco for a detention hearing on tuesday, at which a federal judge will decide whether or not he can be released. prosecutors are urging the judge not to allow him out, citing these alleged activities and plans. >> do we have a sense of how close this came to

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers and jared copeland of vallejo had hoped the bombing would be the first in a series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges, including conspiracy to destroy by fire, or explosive, a building. rogers is also charged with unregistered destructive vices and three counts of possession of machine guns. in january law enforcement officers searched rogers home and seized 55 rooms, thousands of rounds of ammunition's and three pipe bombs. >>> authorities believe they ever did another mass shooting after they arrested a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charlie martinez was taken into custody friday after a campbell business owner reported someone lurking around her parking lot, peering into cars. the business owner shared surveillance video with abc7 news. police detained martinez and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck including a pipe bomb, two illegal ar- 15 style rifle, and a manifesto which stated a desire to wipe out the black, hispanic and jewish populations. >> a lot of bad things could have happene

now, the two men, 45-year-old ian rogers, is of napa, and 37-year-old jared copeland of vallejo, are said to be behind the plan. now, copeland was arrested in sacramento on wednesday. rogers was arrested back in january. so according to prosecutors the plan was to fire bomb the john l. burton headquarters with the hopes that that explosion would begin some type of a movement. prosecutors say the pair used multiple messaging platforms to discuss the plans and at one point copeland even messaged rogers saying he had been in contact with anti-government militia groups to gather more support. for some lawmakers this plan and arrest signal a greater issue. >> these are all symptoms of a larger issue, and that is our society and this separatism. even now, you know, i again thank the fbi for their work, but in this day and age, you know, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in a democratic process. >> reporter: rogers and copeland are both charged with conspiracy to destroy by fire or explosives. that building in effect is utilizing interstate comme

back in january our investigative unit first reported on the arrest of one of the suspects, ian rogers from napa. at the time the authorities only mentioned the explosive devices they say were recovered at his home and business. the other suspect, jerard copeland, is from vallejo. after the election last fall the two hatched a plan to blow up the headquarters, hoping the bomb would be the first in a series of attack starting a movement. all of it a huge shock to democratic party leaders. >> in this day and age, you know, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in the democratic process. >> the fair face mult charges. if convicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> we are getting a new perspective on the surge of deadly gun violence across the bay area's three major cities. overall killings are up compared with last year. digging deeper, look at the numbers from "the chronicle." they show homicides in oakland, san jose and san francisco within the first six months of each other from 2018 through 2021. all have seen increases this year. oakland

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland of lego. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election. specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021. >> agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed eviden

according to court documents, 45-year-old ian rogers from napa and jared copeland from vallejo started planning attacks on targets they associated with democrats in the wake of the 2020 election. the two men communicated on multiple messaging platforms. >> the rhetoric that he is espousing on his chat, talked about all of the hate and discontent he had for if trump didn't win the election, those kind of things, people take that seriously today. >> investigators say after rogers was arrested, copeland reached out to a leader of a militia group and was told to delete all communication. >>> time now is 5:09. devastating and deadly flooding hitting europe, how president biden is responding. >>> ahead on kpix 5 and streaming on cbsn bay area, mandatory evacuations underway over the massive fire burning near butte county. will the town of paradise be safe? >>> looking at the scene that led to the arrest of a former 49er, the surveillance video of richard sherman. >>> and tracking this ridge of my pressure in the desert southwest. that will warm us up for the next several days. there is a cha

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers who you see, and jared copeland hoped the bombing would be the first in series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges now including conspiracy to destroy a building, by fire or explosive. rogers is also now charged with possession of unregistered destructive devices and three counts of possession of machine guns. back in january, law enforcement officers searched his home in napa and seized 45 to 50 firearms. thousands of rounds of ammunition, and five pipe bombs. rogers has been in custody since then. >>> new details in the south bay authorities believe they have averted another mass shooting after the arrest of a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charles martinees from los gatos was taken into custody. it comes after a campbell business owner reported someone lushing around the parking lot peering into cars. that business owner shared surveillance video of the incident with abc7 news. police detained martinees and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck. that includes a pipe bomb, two illegal ar style r

according to court documents, 45-year-old ian rogers from napa and 37-year-old vallejo resident jared copeland started planning their attacks on targets they associated with democrats. the two men communicated on multiple messaging platforms. >> the rhetoric he is espousing in the chat, talked about all of the hate and discontent he had if trump didn't wib win the election, those things, people take those things seriously these days. >> after rogers was arrested, copeland reached out to a leader of a militia group and was told to delete all communication. >>> a look at where san franciscoers could makemme fer. $5 million has been allocated to build a ferry terminal. this little known port is under going a dramatic change and turning into what officials hopn weather and traffic beginning with mary lee. it's friday. >> it is finally friday. i love it when we make it to the end of the work week. we are looking at a bit of a warm up for today into the weekend. i will talk about this in a moment. if you are getting ready to head out the door, take a look at the mount hamilton camera, somet

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland of lego. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointing election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11 to 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed eviden

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland of lego. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed eviden

the plot became public in january, after one of the men named ian rogers, was arrested, police found five pipe bombs in his home. he told authorities at the time he never intended to do anything serious with them, he had them only for entertainment purposes but the fbi found conversations of him with another man in which they talked about attacking the democratic headquarters building in sacramento, and possibly the offices of facebook and twitter, for the fact that they had blocked president trump. now we know the second man with whom he has was communicating, that's what's new here, a man named jared copeland, and the government last night asked a federal judge in california to keep copeland in detention, while they're awaiting trial, while the court document says he and rogers were "animated by the kind of anger that will not be abated or deterred by a court order. all the political and social conditions that motivated the plan, what they planned to do as described as terrorist attacks remain." so now we have the second part of this puzzle, both of them now are awaiting trial on t

documents say that napa resident ian rogers and resident journey. copeland began making plans after the 2020 election. they are accused of planning to use explosives to carry out the attack. they hoped apparently that the attack would spark a movement. officers who searched rogers home found dozens of guns. thousands of rounds of ammunition. 5 pipe bombs. both men face up to 20 years in prison. san francisco police have arrested a man seen on surveillance video robbing a store on 5th street near folsom. this was the this is the south of market neighborhood happened monday. police say the suspect is 38 year-old craig smith of oakland. the cashier told police that a man walked into the store, pointed a gun and demanded money. police say after arresting smith, they also found a ghost gun which is an untraceable firearms. police say this is an active investigation. they're asking anyone with information to call san francisco police. >> so up to it on the hollywood walk of fame today. deadly gun fire breaking out at that popular tourist spot sending peop

documents say that napa resident ian rogers in vallejo resident jared copeland started making their plans after the 2020 election. according to the indictment they were planning to use explosives to carry out the attack and hope that it would spark a movement law enforcement, search rogers home and say they found dozens of guns, thousands of rounds of ammo and 5 pipe bombs both men now face up to 20 years in prison if convicted. we have an update on a story we brought you earlier this week as san jose employee who worked with children has been fired. now after he was accused of trying to meet up with a minor 53 year-old carl oosterman was the director of education at the nonprofit kiryat to see which is an outdoor zoo and museum and sam a tail a california group called the c c unit says that members caught and planning to meet with a 14 year-old boy that he met online. but the person that met turned out to be the person with a vigilante group and behind the camera here, members of the group of them posing as minors on line since 2018 to catch suspects on video. san jose police say they ar

to blow up several buildings following president biden's election victory, according to documents, ian rogers of napa shown here and another man, jared copeland, valeo began planning attacks back in november. the men allegedly planned to attack the john l. burton democratic headquarters in sacramento, along with the twitter and facebook headquarters. in january, authorities seized dozens of guns, including automatic weapons, ammunition and five pipe bombs from rogers home. copeland was arrested on wednesday. both men are facing several years in prison. and this just into our newsroom, a federal judge in texas has ruled that the government must stop processing new applications for daca. obama era policy protects people brought into the united states as children from being deported texas and eight other states sued to halt the program, saying it violates the constitution. however the ruling this afternoon will not end protections for the estimated 650,000 people who are already enrolled. still ahead at four the oakland coliseum authority met today up next. the decision about a new stadiu

court documents say napa resident ian rogers and vallejo resident jerry copeland started making their plans after the 2020 election. according to the indictment they were planning to use explosives to carry out an attack and they hope that that would spark a movement law enforcement, search rogers home and they say they found dozens of guns, thousands of rounds of ammo and 5 pipe bombs. both men now face up to 20 years in prison if they are convicted. >> now let's get you caught up on the latest with former 40 niner and stanford alum richard sherman, we know that he's been released from jail now without bail. but we'll have to abide by some pretty strict condition and the charges were downgraded a washington state judge ordered sherman cannot drink alcohol possess any firearms. >> or have any contact with his father in law. police arrested him at the home of the father-in-law early wednesday morning and all followed a 911. call. sherman's wife. >> made telling dispatchers that he was threatening to hurt himself. this was at their home earlier in the morning. police believe that sherma

ian benjamin rogers and jared copeland were propertied by the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. they believed their attack would spark a movement, according to federal prosecutors who said the men were members of a militia group. you know law enforcement officers seized five pipe bombs. thousands of rounds of ammunition, between 45 and 50 firearms, at least three fully automatic weapons during this january search of rogers' home and business. i'm curious your reaction to that as a california democrat, as a member of the homeland security committee and as somebody who has tried to do anything he could to try to quell the gun violence in this country by common sense gun rules being stepped up. does this prove the type of violence and danger we saw in january 6th was not a one-time thing? >> we are just as vulnerable today, alex, as we were on january 6th. my fear is there will be more loss of life as long as the following ingredients still exist. you have donald trump and kevin mccarthy advancing the big lie. you have a country where we have unrestricted weaponry, and you have la

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland of the lego. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a car that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed evi