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thompson. i know today is along a busy one for you and it continues so we appreciate some of your time. the testimony of those officers laid waste to the criticism we've been hearing literally since january six that there's no need for investigation into this and while we were all under threat they face the battery and the medieval battle that took place. what did you learn today? >> well first allie, thank you for having me. let me tell you that we now know that there are heroes of january six. it was a rank and file law enforcement officers of the metropolitan police department, counter police as well as the other departments who came and helped defend this capitol from the rioters. they are the real heroes and part of what we wanted to do today was to get all they experienced on the record and what they had to endure on january 6th and also on your last limb, what is it they would like us to do? i think the four clips you heard from the witnesses say it all. we want to know who facilitated i

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. >> i want to talk about chairman benny thompson saying subpoenas are coming soon, laura, this is right up your ally here. liz cheney said they should be issued quickly and the justice department is saying former d.o.j. officials can testify, the department will not assert executive privilege. which top officials will be among the first called? could it be the president should be called or will be called? >> i think -- >> the former president. >> i think he should be called and jeffrey are rosen. what the dorj .o.j. would have assert, is why it's a significant thing, remember, you are saying, in order to have transparency and a full investigation, i have to premove the hurdles and people saying i don't care what uyou want to hear, i don't have to tell you. that hurdle is being over come, saying you can speak freely about what it is that you know about the es. if you know the who, what, when, where, why, the paper trail, if you know something different than what your oath of office should have been or otherwise, lets us know. it's a level of transparency that we need here. >> give me a b

your colleague bennie thompson says that evidence is necessary to produce a report. how are you going to figure out what was said on that call? >> as chairman thompson said, everything is on the table. we really have to dig in deep into all of the events that happened that day. and, you know, i can't say every witness or everything that we will move forward with in the investigation, but we will examine all of the facts and where those facts take us, we will draw from that to come to the conclusions for the committee. >> okay. speaking of witnesses, are you willing to subpoena the former president or people close to him to get answers? >> don, like i said, and like chairman thompson has said, and going into this, everything is on the table. the committee is just now coming together, coming up with a plan, waiting for our additional members. i think we're all here because we took an oath as members of congress, i did, the first time when i was 17, and spent two decades in uniform. we truly think that that oath to protect the constitution against all enemies foreign an

the chairman benny thompson who says the committee will issue subpoenas soon without resorting to writing letters asking for voluntary information says we cannot let the liars and cheaters win. >> we did not ask for this, for the house of representatives did its job to give this country its first peaceful transfer of power. and we'll do our job now to make sure the peaceful transfer of power remains a pillar of our democracy. we cannot allow ourselves to be undone by liars and cheaters. >> liz cheney one of two republicans on the committee says that we need to know the truth about every meeting, every conversation, every phone call leading up to and during the attack. >> we must know what happened here at the capitol. we must also know what happened every minute of that day in the white house. every phone call, every conversation, every meeting leading up to, during and after the attack. honorable men and women have an obligation to step forward. >> you will hear more from liz cheney a little bit later on in this show as well as from other republicans on the committee or the other republi

democrats are saying -- bennie thompson said, look, they're simply trying to muddy the waters. this is not going to be a committee that is going to independently look at this. it's going to be another washington sort of drag-out fight. being out here in the country, one thing is clear. people are not interested in another food fight in washington regardless of what side you're on. but that is what sounds like is coming down the way. >> quite frankly it's a desperate attempt because it's hard to change the narrative when we have so many images coming out. >> and arrests. >> and none of them mention nancy pelosi except that they don't like her and they stuck their feet up on top of her desk. thank you very much. >>> i want to turn now to "washington post" investigative reporter carol leonnig. so happy to have her here. she's the co-author of the explosive new book "i alone can fix it: donald j. trump's catastrophic final year." again, so good to see you again. thank you so much, carol. listen, there are so many details from your book that we need to discuss. but i want to start w

bennie thompson, the chair of the committee, has worked with republicans as chair of the homeland security committee. he told me he will work hard to enforce the rules and make sure this committee sticks to their intended goals and that is finding answers as to what happened on january 6. they'll go wherever they need, that could ultimately mean calling someone who is on the committee to come forward as a witness, including jim jordan, kevin mccarthy, or even donald trump. >> and there we go. thank you very much, ryan nobles, i appreciate that. kirstin powers and former republican congressman denver riggleman, good evening to both of you. denver, what do you think of mccarthy's picks for this select committee, are you surprised he actually chose two people who voted to certify the election results? >> i was pleasantly surprised. i think there's a good faith effort with kelly and rodney, i know them very well, they're very good people. i have a feeling kelly's background is legal, recordny has -- rodney has been there a long time. i wasn't surprised about jim jordan being chosen either. it

bennie thompson, excuse me. she talked, today, about how, in her view, this is bigger than politics. >> um, and a really important opportunity to remind everybody about the necessity of accountability. for what happened. for making sure that it never happens, again. >> accountability. accountability. accountability. that's what all this is supposed to be about. yet, kevin mccarthy, who just days after the attack on -- on the capitol, said that the then-president bore responsibility. now, he is calling liz cheney and adam kinzinger pelosi republicans. kinzinger called that childish. pointed out it was republicans, actually, who killed the independent commission in the senate. listen. >> we had an opportunity for a 5-5 commission that didn't even include members of congress. then, at every junction, it kept getting blocked, despite that we negotiated the 5-5. and so, it's become obvious that there are some that just, simply, don't want answers. and that, to me, is unacceptable. >> people don't want the truth. ther

. >> i want to talk about chairman bennie thompson saying that subpoenas are coming soon, laura. this is right up your alley here. liz cheney said they should be issued quickly. the justice department is saying former doj officials can testify. the department won't assert executive privilege. so which top officials are likely to be among the first called? you think the president should be called or will be called? the former president? >> i think he should be called. i think jeffrey rosen. i think others. remember, the executive privilege in terms of what the doj members would have to assert or be able to no longer have to assert -- so the notion here and why this is such a significant thing is, remember, you're saying in order to have transparency, in order to have a full, holistic investigation, i have to remove the hurdles of people saying, i don't care what you want to hear. i don't have to tell you anything. that does not bode well on the integrity of the department if there's no real basis for it. but also it's a hurdle that now is being overcome by the decision to say, you

bennie thompson, who is the chairman from mississippi, is a serious individual. he's worked with republicans and democrats for a long time in his capacity as chair of the homeland security committee. he told me today that he is going to work hard to enforce the rules and make sure that this committee sticks to their intended goals, and that is finding answers as to what happened on january 6th. and they're going to go wherever they need to find those answers. that could ultimately even mean calling someone who's on the committee, jim jordan, to come forward as a witness. that's a real possibility, including the possibility of kevin mccarthy and maybe even donald trump being called in front of this committee. >> thank you very much, ryan nobles. i appreciate that. joining me now, cnn senior political analyst kirsten powers and former republican congressman denver riggleman. good evening to both of you. so, denver, what do you think of mccarthy's picks for this select committee? are you surprised that he actually chose two people who voted to certify the election r

i'm talking to benny thompson, and congressman pete aguilar who is also on the committee. have a great holiday and a good night. >>> good evening, we have a lot of news to get to right now, heading in to the holiday weekend. there's no reaction to the trump org indictments and new polling revealing where people are

. >> bennie thompson talked about one of the things, this committee will have subpoena power. how do you think that gets used? there are people who say subpoena trump and those around him. sounds like he is going to start with testimony of capitol police officers. paint a picture for me. as somebody who was an impeachment manager, what does success look like for this committee for you? >> well, i would say i would defer to chairman thompson and his judgment as to how the investigation will proceed. it appears they will start with hearing from members of law enforcement who bravely fought to defend our capitol that day and to protect members of congress and the staff and all of those in the complex. i think that's incredibly important to hear from them first and for them to recount their firsthand experiences. at the end of the day there are a number of remaining questions as to decision making within the department of defense on january 6, decision making at white house, conversations between white house officials and folks at the department of defense, conversations between w

we don't know who will be getting subpoenas from that committee, but benny thompson told us, on this program last night, that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and prompted the january 6th attack? the lies about election fraud, the narrative of a stolen election, the fantasy that donald trump's election loss could be overturned, that needs to be investigated by the select committee. but that is not just stuff that happened before january 6th. as far as a false narrative about the 2020 election that is inciting people to violence or potential violence, we're all living in an active crime scene right now. this is ongoing. take the so-called audit that arizona republicans have been conducting of the 2020 election results, in maricopa county, and arizona, the cyber ninjas guy, who is a qanon -- under ultraviolet via light. looking for bamboo fibers because maybe the ballots were secretly said to a merica from east asia. today, the guy who had been overseeing the audit for the arizona republicans quit after being walked out, that is -- he was actually physically

the chairman of the committee, congressman benny thompson told reporters today that the committee will soon be sending subpoenas, as part of their inquiry. that's not the only investigation going on in congress right now, that could shed light on donald trump's efforts to overturn the election. we know another part of the former presidents scheme to overturn the election was centered around the justice department. to wield the power of the doj to somehow swing the results in trump's favor. there were reports that trump considered ousting his attorney general and replacing him with some that would push his claims about election fraud. trump and his chief of staff brought their claims to the doj leadership demanding that the department investigate the fraud to delegitimized lull joe biden's win. just this week we learned just how extensive this pressure campaign was. washington post reported that trump called his acting attorney general jeffrey rosen almost every day about the so-called fraud in the aftermath of the election. the attorney general's top aide took notes about with the form

this week i'm talking to congressman bennie thompson, from the committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. have a great holiday. and goodnight. ay an>> let me welcome everyone to the be. we begin tonight with donald trump's kids speaking out amid this ongoing criminal criminal probe after their company, where they work, the trump organization and his longtime cfo, have been indicted. it was 15 counts of charges we've been running through that are in our coverage starting -- growing pressure and heat on ellen weisselberg to talk, to flip. now, there are many ways to count this up and their debates over how typical this kind of charges is. but as a practical, legal matter he could face over a decade. potentially a decade in prison if convicted. those are

but select committee chairman, bennie thompson, told us on this program last night that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and to program last night that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and prompted the january 6th attackd the lies about election fraud. the narrative of a stolen election. the fantasy that donald trump's election loss could be nati overturned. that all needs to be investigated by this select committee.ed but that is not just stuff that happened before january 6th. as far as a false narrative about the 2020 election that is inciting people to violence or potential violence, we're all eo living in an active crime scene right now. this is ongoing. take the so-called audit that arizona republicans have been go conducting of the 2020 election results in maricopa county, arizona. the one being run by the cyber ninjas guy who is a qanon stop-the-steal conspiracy theory rift. where they have been running through ballots. they have been taking the ballots and running them under ultra violet light looking for bamboo fibers becau