amplifying the big lie and praising arizona republicans despite what arizona senate president and leader of the effort karen van publicly says. >> this is not about trump. this is not about overturning the election. this has never been about anything other than election integrity. >> reporter: her e-mails tell another story. obtained by watchdog group american oversight last month. van writes in a december e-mail she spoke with mayor giuliani at least six times in two weeks and mentions a private two hour meeting with giuliani and the trump legal team. in november van writes she asked the trump legal team to please file a lawsuit to halt vote certification in the state. she tells another voter last december about a personal call from president trump thanking us for pushing to prove any fraud. but van wasn't the only elected official who received calls from the trump orbit. maricopa supervisor bill gates got a voice mail 2020 from then trump lawyer rudy giuliani. >> i have a few things i'd like to talk. maybe we can get this thing fixed up. >> reporter: do you believe this entire thing wa

particularly, the arizona one. i mean, that have been just so readily debunked, including by the republican-election officials in maricopa county. >> right. >> so, you know, it is a con. it is a scam. and -- and people are involved in fantasy fulfillment for donald trump. >> and it goes on. i mean, now, maggie, he's going to -- to arizona to go onstage. to have all the politicians who are going to be running are going to be on the stage with him or dying to -- to get a photo with him. and there will be, i'm sure, more e-mails going out about sending money to him to continue fighting for what they are calling is election integrity. even though that's a ruse. >> it's interesting, anderson. you know, he -- he was talking -- some reporting that he was talking to an adviser a couple of weeks ago and he was trying to push this person to say, you know, that -- that this idea that he could be reip st reinstated in august is real, which it isn't, to be clear. squ and he was trying to push this person to say this arizona eff

now there are no good options for this audit here in arizona. it was -- first of all, it was unnecessary. our republican county board of supervisors, which is 4-1 republican conducted two audits using election assistance commission approved companies, bipartisan commission, non-partisan professional companies two audits confirmed we had a fair election here in maricopa county. it was no purpose to begin with but since it's been a conclusion in search of evidence and now that no evidence of fraud or error has been detected, they've taken to inventing statistics and facts made up out of thin air about more ballots received than requested, which of course is thoroughly debunked. there is no good resolution for this. when i started, there is no good that can come out of this. >> here is the thing, when this audit and, you know, i put the quotes around it, when this is done, whatever it's done, it been going on and on and still goes on and on and there is an outcome and what chris said is powerful. you can go off the cliff or jump off the train going

democrats challenge two arizona rules. one, that tosses out ballots when voters show up at the wrong pre precinct. the ruling was 6-3. that a reflection of the court's powerful conservative majority and it sends a clear signal this court believes states get wide latitude in the voting rules. we are joined with the big final day decisions. >> very big, indeed. and the take away from this is that this is going to make it a lot harder for challengers of these voting laws to actually prevail here. because in this 6 3 decision written, this didn't just uphold the arizona laws that have been in effect for many years. but this restricted the ability of challengers to really challenge section 2. and the reason why this is so important is that really section 2 is the only way now for these people to challenge these voting laws. that's because in 2013, the supreme court struck down essentially section 5 of the voting rights act. that was a section that mandated that jurisdictions with the history of racial discrimination, they neede

ward targeted arizona election officials with a pressure campaign, according to "the arizona republic." but inlike in georgia where the gop secretary of state recorded a call with the president, the keymar -- key maricopa county election official refused to speak to trump. ron brownstein joins us. why are these latest revelations significant to you? >> happy fourth to you and everybody watching. i think there are two real important conclusions that come out of these revelations in arizona. one is that we simply do not know all the ways in which donald trump used and abused his power as president. it just underscores the need for a more comprehensive understanding of what he did in office. and all of the ways in which he may have gone beyond the proper boundaries of the use of presidential power, especially given that he may ask the country to restore it to him again in a little over three years. i was talking to our colleague john dean a couple of weeks ago for a story i was writing. he noted that when nixon left office, we had so much of a better idea of everything that had happened

donald trump is going to arizona. while a team of volunteers spent weeks scouring ballots for proof they were shipped in they were from overseas here's a news flash that trump did not spend a single dollar from the $75 million raised from the pac for this audit or another ballot review across the country so it seems the team realizes nothing is going to reverse the results 0 of this election. yet here we are 263 days after the votes were cast with very few republicans willing to publicly accept there's no hail mary in arizona. let's check in with kung law there in phoenix. >> reporter: still pretty lively right now as this place is beginning to fill up. this is an indoor theater and expected in a few hours is donald trump to headline this entire event why the atmosphere here when you go around and talk to people here to see trump is absolute refusal to accept the election results. when you talk to them and ask them what they think happened in november 2020, they don't believe what happened. instead they parrot the lie

what do you think the lasting effect of this audit will be for the republican party in arizona? it sounds as though it could become a litmus test, republicans trying to win elections in that state may have to attach themselves to the results of this audit. what do you think? >> i think most people have even forgotten -- most sane people, let me rephrase, have forgotten that this audit is going on, right? joe biden has been president for over six months now. he swore in six months ago. but the people who are not -- who are part of the trump cult are putting all their eggs in this maricopa basket and there is people that actually believe that trump is getting reinstated in august. they can't tell you how, they can't tell you why, they can't give you any sort of legal precedent, they can't make a logical argument. but the same way the tooth fairy shows up, they think there's going to be somebody showing up and spreading dust and trump is going to be president. and then we ask ourselves how is it possible that people are not getting vaccinated? and it's because the republican party,

i mean, my goodness, in arizona they're collecting evidence. right? they are seizing the ballot machines to audit elections that have been already audited by professionals, sacrificing voter privacy along the way, damaging election equipment and no one seems to be able to stop it. just a few agitators were able to subpoena machines and hand them off to a fly by night outfit no one has heard of and no one can stop it. i don't feel like people are taking this threat seriously enough. meanwhile, every single day trump and his lawyers and his team and his activists are planning a rerun of this in 2022 and 2024. >> well, i think democrats are taking this seriously. it's republicans who aren't taking it seriously that are enabling some of the efforts to continue. they're the ones who are passing the lawshen they have the majority in state legislatures. they're the ones in the senate who wouldn't even debate a voting rights bill when all democrats were on board. but i know you're trying to do something about this. you just launched republicans four voting ri

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the state of arizona. joe biden wins arizona and he wins it narrowly. phoenix, big. that's where you win in arizona. you win here. that's blue. let's go back four years. that's red. donald trump carries arizona then. one of the examples, you can do it in georgia, too. donald trump runs strong among white suburbans. joe biden runs strong four years later, he takes arizona and changes the -- map. the shifting mood. come over here and look at this giant game. 66% for hillary clinton. 28% for donald trump. joe biden still won but 59-38. donald trump improved his standing. 10 points among hispanic voters. how does that translate on the map? remember in the 2020 campaign. democrats had dreams. we're going to take texas back. you see a lot of blue down here. right? in this part of texas. but take a look. this is 2020. right? biden lost texas. donald trump won it comfortably. go back in time. you see more blue. right? when hillary clinton -- i mean when donald trump carries texas over hillary clinton shelf did better here. has the tiny county, maverick county. but 76% for hi

and you can look at arizona. and clearly, this was a state that trump campaign thought they were going to win. but you have to look at the bigger picture. when we're looking at questions of the election integrity, across the board, trump, giuliani, and that team has brought legal challenges to the election results, over 60 times, to no avail. and now, what we're seeing in arizona and, also, some in georgia and pennsylvania. we are seeing audits and we're seeing new inquiries but that is not going to end -- and it's not going to be a new result because these are -- these are still the same numbers that we saw on election night and in the days and weeks to follow. >> and -- and, chris, i have to ask you what you make of this so-called audit that is happening in arizona right now. this quest for bamboo ballots and so on. as somebody who has called elections, every-four years, how nutty is this? >> well, first -- first thing, let me say is i love your heart, alice stewart. >> thank you. >> but the truth is that this

, that has led to a flash flood watch for arizona today. we could see in some areas up to 4 or 5 inches of rain. and again, with the ground so dry and picking up this much rain in short order, that is the recipe for some flooding. and also right here, i want to show you that across the midwest today, we could see a significant severe weather setup later on this afternoon on into this evening, there is a level three out of five ring, and that includes madison, wisconsin. we could see very damaging winds later. >> thanks for keeping a close eye on all of that, tyler mauldin with that. >>> and if you are feeling pain at the pump or in the pocketbook, inflation is likely to blame. over the past dryear, prices ha skyrocketed. the cpi was up more than 5% annually last month. and gas is up a whopping 45%, which is programs not all that surprising after so many months of empty roads zs and lower dem. but the president of the federal reserve bank believes the surges will be temporary. >> we know that as the economy goes through this first rapid shut

arizona is turning into a politically-purple state. and they are concerned. >>> strong values and strong opinions. >> there is not one bit of proof of any of this. >> reporter: he is the go to for conservative talk on arizona radio. but on these so-called audit? >> i understand that i'm an outlier with my own people when i question what people are going to think about this audit. >> reporter: mike, lifelong republican. trump? >> yeah. >> you voted for him? >> twice. twice, i voted for him. >> reporter: but trump lost and broomhead thinks a so-called audit is a waste of time. instead, he thinks the focus should be on winning republican seats in 2022. >> if they win enough seats in the house, they take over the majority in the house. >> reporter: but some of his listeners, his base, now call him everything from a turncoat to a rino to a liberal. >> when you throw people out that disagree with you, it's hard to get them back when you need them to vote. and that scares me. >> reporter: politically, what is at stake here for republicans? >>

maricopa is arizona's most populous county. county supervisors there reportedly got texts and phone calls as votes were being counted and later as the votes were being contested. here are two of those voice mails from rudy giuliani, one to clint hickman, who is the chair of the maricopa county chair of supervisors at the time, and another to bill gates. the music you'll hear underneath the call was added by the arizona republic in their online story. >> this is rudy giuliani. i was very happy to see this is going to be forensic audit of the machines. i really wanted to talk to you about it. the president wanted me to give you a call, all right? thank you. give me a call back. i would really appreciate. hello. it's rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer. if you get a chance, would you please give me a call? i have a few things to talk over with you. maybe we can get this thing fixed up. it's a shame republicans are in this situation. i think there may be a nice way to resolve this for everybody. so, give me a call, bill. i'm on

this is rudy giuliani essentially saying the exact same thing in arizona. and what this tells me, victor, is this was part of a coordinated effort by donald trump and rudy giuliani to interfere with and overturn the election results in those two states and potentially elsewhere. these are crimes. let's be clear. it's a federal crime. it's a georgia crime, an arizona crime to try to convince an official to count votes that were not actually cast or not to count votes that were actually cast. this is serious stuff. we know the d.a. in georgia is investigating, and now we have to see whether the authorities, the prosecutors in arizona do the same thing. i think they ought to. >> the more we -- the more evidence that comes out and the more we hear about this pressure campaign to overturn donald trump's election loss, you realize the intestinal fortitude and steel spine it took for these local election officials to not return the call of the president of the united states or his attorney. and by the way, now, as we know, there are all of these laws in all of the

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upholding arizona's restrictive new voting laws and signaling they would like -- likely side with other states passing new voting restrictions in the name of preventing bogus voter fraud, ie, the big lie. the highest court in the land gutting voting rights as states across the country are passing restrictive laws targeting voters of color while congress sits on its hands totally unable to get anything done on the john lewis act or the for the people act. in the face of all that, the president of the united states, joe biden, a consoler in chief going down to florida as rescuers search for any sign of the missing more than a week after that condo collapsed in the middle of the night. and as questions loom over what caused that disaster. the president promising the feds will cover the cost of the search and the rescue for 30 days. and apologizing for being late for his speech because he stopped to talk to everybody who wanted to hear from him. >> i apologize for taking so long to get here because i thought it was important to speak to every single person who wanted to speak to me. jill an

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joining me now is arizona secretary of state katie hobbs. a democratic candidate for arizona governor. to good to see you, secretary. so your attorneys argued to the court that these two measured disenfranchise voters of color and violated section two of the voting rights act. and let me remind people, the provisions would not allow ballots to be cast outside of voter precincts or allowed to have spun else to return a completed ballot. so the supreme court majority ruled against you. what is your reaction to that? >> well, this was an expected outcome. but what this ruling underscores is that urgent need for action at the state and federal level to protect voting rights. and what we're seeing right now is a move across country to go in the opposite direction. and in that context, this decision is very harmful and it is going to make it harder for anyone to be able to challenge discriminatory voting laws. >> and so like you said, this is not just about arizona. there are at least 14 other states that have passed laws restricting voting access

that was part of the arizona republic's online post. >> it's rudy giuliani. i was very happy to see that there's going to be forensic audit of the machines and i really wanted to talk to you about it a bit. the president wanted me to give you a call. all right? thank you. give me a call back. i would really appreciate it. thank you. >> hey, clint. it' it's kelly ward. i just talked to president trump and he's -- he would like me to talk to you. and also, see if he needs to give you a call to discuss what's happening on the ground in maricopa. give me a call back, when you can. thanks. bye. >> so, who is clint? clint hickman, at the time, was the chair of the board of supervisors in maricopa county. a republican. he says he never returned those calls, or ones from the white house switchboard operator, with requests to call back former-president trump. and i want to give you the timeframe of when these calls were made, in relation to that call that the then-president made to georgia's secretary of state, brad raffensperger, the infamous find-me-votes call. that

depicts trump lawyer rudy giuliani on election night pushing trump to forget that fox news had called arizona for joe biden. quote, just go declare victory right now giuliani told trump. you have got to go declare victory now. giuliani's interjection of his just say you won strategy infuriated trump's campaign advisers. >> these two old guys trying to determine what's really going on in the world, and they don't get it. >> rudy giuliani did not respond to cnn's request for comment. another book by michael wolf portrays a president isolated right after the election. quote, by the friday after election day, there was not a single white house aid or trump campaign official or trump pollster who believed that the vote count could be reasonably or effectively challenged. >> he is a man alone. his lawyers are saying we're not going to -- we're not going to do this. we're not going to fight these cases. >> and wolf rights that as the attack on the capital raged on january 6th, quote, the president seemed to not be grasping the facts as they were coming through. these people were protesting the elect

organizer ali alexander, is launching his own protest. >> for what purpose does the gentleman from arizona rise? >> i rise both for myself and 60 of my colleagues to object to the, uh, counting of the electoral ballots from arizona. >> so there you have it, the first objection. they'll be separated now. >> i didn't have a view into the outside but somebody texted me a photo of people on the inaugural platform and that was the first time i thought, wow, i can't believe we're at this point. >> it was almost the same moment donald trump was delivering this prophetic line. >> and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. so we're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue. >> outside the walls of the capitol, mayhem. a member of the proud boys got his hands on a capitol police riot shield. >> they're throwing bricks at the capitol! >> you hear officers on the radio screaming for help. >> harry dunn, stationed on the capitol's east side, races to help his comrades on the west and is stunned at what he sees. >> capitol injuries, multi

the supreme court has just issue aid ruling on a challenge to arizona's voting law changes. let's get to jessica schneider for more. what did they rule. >> this is a major decision coming from the supreme court on voting rights and in particular how challengers to many of the restrictive voting bills around the country enacted by the republican-led states, how they'll be able to enk the laws in court. so first of all, i'll tell you that the supreme court was ruling specifically on two arizona laws, the supreme court upholding these two laws. these were one regulation, one law, the first regulation said that election officials had to discard ballots that were cast at the wrong polling precinct. the second was a law that actually made it a criminal offense to help in ballot collection. something that critics call ballot harvesting. and it said that anyone who wasn't a family member or a caretaker or an election worker could not help another person deliver their ballot to the right precinct. so the supreme court saying that both of those regulations or laws were okay. now that

you also have in the state of pennsylvania now a gop-led senate considering an arizona style, frankly, fake audit of its own. m as someone who received death threats for defending the integrity of the election after trump himself singled you out, to your credit, i'm just going to give you a platform to speak to your fellow republicans about the dangers of activities like this. >> well, when the definition of being a republican is espousing the lie that the election was stolen and being called a rhino when you don't, that's a pretty sad kind of state of affairs. as for suggestions that we should bring whatever is going on in arizona with that election to pennsylvania, i would encourage our legislators to educate themselves to know that our elections are certified and that it was audited not once, but twice, and there is no doubt about the outcome. it was safe, it was secure, and it wasn't even close. >> to your credit for saying that. a lot of republicans won't, fearing the political consequences. melanie, back to you on capitol hill, still questions about who is going to end up on thi

arizona's governor signing bills he claims will keep critical race theory out of arizona's government and public schools even though the truth is it's academic theory. cpac betting outrage. here is ronny jackson railing against this. >> this is just another government over reach that sits in the narrative that democrats do everything else with the socialist mark communist way they want to control their lives. >> you remember him. he used to be the white house doctor to president obama and president trump and then there is the gop's seeming inability to stop talking about nazis after the qanon congresswoman marjorie taylor greene compared covid vaccination out reach to not s not see -- nazi wearing brown shirts calling door to door vaccinators quote needle nazis. end quote. what else do you expect from a party's leader told his chief of staff quote well hitler did a lot of good things. that's according to a new book. a trump spokesperson denies he said that as the former president was picking a fight with bender today. not over the reported hitler quote, he is just all riled up about t

he brought up the fact according to him he won the state of arizona, we know he lost the state of arizona because he was attacking john mccain, i a hero in that state, and he brought that up and attacked john mccain again in our interview. it's just again and again he would say things that weren't true saying they were true, like a different set of facts. >> we're going to take a break and come back with more clips of the interview with the president including when asked about the vice president's refusal to over turn the election. and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. overturn the election. philadelphia. schmear perfection. what if you could have the perspective to see more? at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. ♪ we see companies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. we see a bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge. today, we are translating decades of experience into strategies for the road ahead. we are morgan stanley. and there you have it - wireless on

the democrats trying to hold arizona. that has been a tough state but it's been trending more to the blue. and democrats hope it's a long shot, but they hope to knock off marco rubio in florida. one of the things you need in a competitive environment is money. we'll get the full context. mark kelley, the democrat in arizona raised nearly $6 million. florida, congressman demings, one of the democrats running to oppose rubio raised nearly 5 million since the june launch with 3 million cash on hand. rubio came in with about 4 million on hand. but the senate races are going to cost a boat load of dimes. the democrat are moving on they'll have money. >> and democrats were worried out trump on the ballot if they were going to be able to motivate their base. money isn't everything. as we saw in 2020, it is a good sign for someone like a mark kelley who republicans are feeling confident about being able to be competitive in that state. even though kelley is a good fundraiser with a compelling back story, he has a record in the se

it's even more absurd because the audits were done in arizona and found no fraud. so take a step back. look at the results of these audits and recounts and republican-led investigations in eight states. and you'll see there is just no actual evidence of mass voter fraud. there is only the desperate attempt to keep doubt alive, to please donald trump at the expense of our democracy. and if you're still not solved, remember how fast fox news and newsmax backtracked when threatened with lawsuits. bill barr thought trump's claims were -- and look at the top lawyer describing trump's legal team as a joke. that was getting them, quote, laughed out of court because of wishful thinking. if you believe their claims, i'm sorry to say the joke's on you. of course, the real insult is to our democracy. that's a causal real patriots should rush to defend. and that's your reality check. >> john, let me ask you, we've had a number of authors on today about this period. the friday after election day there was not a single white house aide or trump campaign official or pollster who

this rally is to support the lie that trump won arizona and the 2020 election. but it's also about this. >> no one should be forced to take a vaccine against their will. >> far-right politics is king here. science, the villain. >> came from a laboratory, and dr. fauci should be in prison for what he did over the last year. >> 2022 arizona republican candidates feed off ignorance. >> mothers don't let them mask our children again. >> they're all here for the headliner. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the 45th president of the united states of america, donald j. trump. >> how about the vaccine? i came up with the vaccine. i recommend you take it, but i also believe in your freedoms 100%. >> what do you think of that behavior? >> extremely dangerous. and maybe it's not politically correct to say, it's stupid. dangerous and stupid. >> dr. actaur is an emergency room physician in phoenix and has been on the front lines of the covid battle since it began. >> what do you anticipate is going to be the impact of this? >> of the rally? there's going to be an incre

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now, next question, earlier this week the supreme court upheld restrictive voting laws in arizona. one viewer wants to know after this ruling is there any realistic way to challenge similar laws in other states? >> there is, but it got harder this week. now, the supreme court this week upheld two restrictive voting laws issued by the state of arizona. this was a 6-3 ruling straight along ideological lines. the six conservative justices, roberts, alito, thomas, kavanaugh, gorsuch and barrett all voted to uphold the restrictive laws. the three liberal justices all dissented. they said they would have struck it down. the challengers here have to show that there's a discriminatory purpose behind the law. the challengers said it impacts minorities more. however, the majority opinion here said, no, that's not enough. the law applies evenly and we don't see enough of an impact, so we will continue to see people, including the justice department who is now sued against the georgia laws. because the hill just got a little steeper in the federal courts and the supreme court has made very cle

and at issue were the two arizona laws. one said that if you cast a ballot in the wrong precinct, it has to be wholly discarded. and the second said -- had to do with restrictions on who could deliver a ballot to the polling place. it said only family members, close family members and really was more restrictive there. and a lower court said both of these laws had an impact on minorities and struck them down under the voting right act. and today a justice writing about a 6-3 majority, and that's breaking down along ideological lines. he said the laws were okay. and what's really important about it is his reasoning. you heard echoes of what the conservatives have been saying, what president trump is saying. that states have a right to pass laws to combat voting fraud. and so what this means is now the court today has limited the reach of section 2, and it comes as states across the country are passing more and more restrictive laws. so it should have a big impact in the near future. >> yeah. for georgia, to florida, to texas

he brought up the fact according to him he won the state of arizona, we know he lost the state of arizona because he was attacking john mccain, i a hero in that state, and he brought that up and attacked john mccain again in our interview. it's just again and again he would say things that weren't true saying they were true, like a different set of facts. a different universe in mar-a-lago. >> we're going to take a break and come back with more clips of the interview with the president including when asked about the vice president's refusal to overturn the election. ♪ ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪this magic moment,♪ but there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪so different and so new.♪ ♪was like any other...♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. if sweat is your body's natural way of cooling itself down. then condensation is a beer's natural way of saying: drink me. michelob ultra superior light beer. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schme

donald trump is going to arizona. while a team of volunteers spent weeks scouring ballots for proof they were shipped in they were from overseas here's a news flash that trump did not spend a single dollar from the $75 million raised from the pac for this audit or another ballot

governor doosy of arizona. if you took this in historical context, might be a little rich but welcome to politics. republicans see an opening. >> that's exactly right. you are seeing this play out on capitol today in a very micro environment which is that house speaker nancy pelosi said masks need to come back because of the spread of the delta variant and the fact that there are still several republicans that have not said if they're vaccinated or not. that's a concern. you hear all these republicans on the hill saying this isn't following science. you heard mccarthy say that early today. the bottom line is then you have to get erveryone vaccinated. at this point we don't have answers on whether 90 plus members of the republican conference are vaccinated. >> this is the speaker of the house today. >> leader mccarthy says it's against the science. >> he's such a moron. >> it gets to there's trust, there's no respect, there's no bipartisanship even on a pandemic facing the country. >> yeah. in fact, it gets wors

. >>> how big a deal was the supreme court ruling today about arizona? 6-3, right, party lines, that two provisions of an arizona voting law do not violate the voting rights act. i must say this, the biden administration agreed, okay, they put out a statement saying that they didn't think they did. what did the court do here? what was the net effect? did they make it harder to challenge election laws? yes. so now the attention turns to congress. the question is, will they do anything? we discuss with a key player, senator joe manchin. thank you so much for being on prime time. >> good to be with you, chris. >> let's start with the big headline. the supreme court says arizona law changes in terms of having to show up at the right ballot place on election day or it doesn't count and limiting the number of people who can collect ballots to care workers, close family, those are not unconstitutional. you see that mitch mcconnell doesn't believe in the john lewis act. so this combination means what for the protection of voting rights in this country in your op

>> i said it to the arizona of republic. i was horrified. i listened to the phone call and i read the transcript and i thought, this is not what i'm used to. a month before that i told people that were close to the trump campaign with all this litigation that was going on, i said, just do me a favor. i can't talk to anyone while this is being litigated. and that stayed true all the way up till that new year's weekend. i got a phone call from the white house switchboard. all of these people that called me, it wasn't stonewalling. we weren't in litigation at all these points. it was getting hard to keep track of. i believe at one point there were eight cases being litigated and maricopa county was finding themselves in the courtroom just at all times. so i wanted to make sure that i was not having conversations outside of that. whatever needed to be said needed to be said in a courtroom in front of a judge or a jury, but we needed to get down to the bottom of it, and this is the same time maricopa county was taking a look at our own people tha

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it is also illegal under federal law, under georgia law, it is illegal under arizona law. so those are the higher stakes prosecutions in my view. >> margaret, we have done a lot of coverage of new election laws being passed by gop legislatures and they fall into two categories. one is about voting access, how many days, et cetera, drop boxes and so on, but the other one deals with who can disrupt the count or challenge the counts as it is happening, can partisans do so. and based on your reading of those laws, have they made something like this more likely to work in future elections? >> look, i think what is going on in the states right now is going to make it in general easier for things like it to become politicized and increase the chances that the federal government is going to be asked to intervene either through executive authority through the justice department, or on the back end through the courts. and what we're looking at overall is setting up a system that looks like it is asking for much more litigation on a consistent basis to try to reconcile what states ar

you said rupert murdoch was involved in the election night decision to call arizona for biden. i've never heard such a thing. fox denies that's true. your response was when we tweeted about it with each other, you said, well, they're liars. fox is a bunch of liars, that's your response. so here's my question -- >> but actually it's -- but it is an interesting thing that week after week all you do is question fox, question its veracity, question its honor, question, et cetera, et cetera, but suddenly now you think that they might be -- >> i've never questioned the decision desk, the professionals who made the call. >> but let's go back -- let's go back to that -- the issue that began this that i told the story of election night, them making the call about arizona, and then bill hemmer, before they made the call, the on-air call, him calling the trump election headquarters and telling them that they were going to make this call. okay, then the fox people came out, they denied this. >> right. >> and then you jumped in and said, you know, you had a headline that they denied this. t

them, play this hypothetical out, and then provided it to a third party like what they're doing in arizona, the taxpayers in those counties would then be on the hook for millions and millions of dollars to replace all that equipment, because it ultimately would be compromised. so the taxpayers would not only pay for it with their dollars to buy new machines, but they would also pay for it because their personal security, their personal information, would be compromised by this sham audit. >> do you think this senator, state senator, actually believes what he's saying, or is this just cynical and dishonest -- as cynical and dishonest and potentially dangerous as it seems? >> look, i get asked that all the time. you would have to ask that state senator what he really believes. but i get asked generally, do these republicans really believe this stuff? anderson, that's what folks ask me. i think they do. i mean, this is the modern day republican party. this is who they are. they have bought into the big lie and sadly, they keep selling it to the good people of pennsylvania. they keep telling t

he was upset when arizona was called by fox for joe biden. you suggest that it was rupert murdoch who ultimately made the decision, the final decision to make that call. you write he got his father on the phone to ask if he wanted to make the early call. his father with a signature grunt added f him. fox disputes this. they say the account is false. fox news media president jay wallace was called into the control room. any other version of the story is wildly inaccurate. >> they just lie. i am rupert murdoch's biographer. i have spent more time with murdoch than any other journalist not in his employ. at this point in my life and career, i know what rupert thinks before he thinks it. there's no question here. i don't suggest this, i know for a fact this is what happened. there is no possibility that rupert murdoch on election night is not calling almost every shot. this is the day of all days for rupert. >> again, i did read the fox statement so people know what fox says about it. you say bill hemmer called the trump campaign to tell them tha

precisely, along the same lines that -- as the sham so-called audit now taking place in arizona. in fact, state senator doug mastriano was one of a group of local republican officials, who went to phoenix to see for themselves what was going on. last week, gary tuchman caught up with him flanked by some of his supporters to ask why he thinks last year's election count was wrong. >> all i want to know is what happened? >> let me ask you this, though. one thing you didn't mention. you know dozens of courts and judges around the country have ruled against trump's voting claims and a lot of them are trump appointed judges. do you really think the people are above the courts? this is the country of laws. >> all i want is a full -- and you know what? if there's nothing, if -- let the cards and chips fall where they may. if -- if the results were -- that's right -- if they were -- if they were as good as governor wolf and josh shapiro says they were, fantastic. and then, the people in the state will say, i have faith and it was -- if -- if -- i hope not but if the results show that ther

a key focal point is that so-called audit in arizona that we have been following closely. it was supposed to finish already, so we thought. what is the latest chapter in all of this with this so-called audit? >> it's a bizarre chapter. we have been following and watching on the floor. it's a hand count. they were looking at each ballot. that part allegedly is done. you can look at this now as the sequel you didn't want. what we saw -- let me catch you up to date. if you look at this picture. we saw the ballots being boxed up, moved out of the coliseum, brought across the arizona state fairgrounds on these trucks and delivered to a storage facility. look at this next video clip. this is from about a week ago. this facility looked like you would expect, storage. the ballots are boxed up. there's nothing happening. it looks like a ring camera. suddenly, there was activity. this morning, if you look at this next video clip, suddenly there were two counters, paper counters that were delivered. with are now told it's not a hand count. it's a machine count. these machines are goi

former president donald trump rallying a crowd last night in arizona, the very state where a sham audit of the 2020 election has dragged on for months. trump delivering less of a speech and more of a nonstop list of grievances while sending these marching orders to republicans. >> they say, well, sir, we have to get on to the future. let me tell you, you're not going to have a future. first of all, our nation is being destroyed, but you're not going to have a future in ''22 r '24 if you don't find out how they cheated. >> i want to go live now to capitol hill, reporter melanie zanona, melanie, good to see you. what more do we know about the addition of kinzinger to this committee? >> this was a big move by speaker nancy pelosi adding kinzinger to the select panel and making him now the second republican to join the investigation. we at cnn reported first that pelosi was considering this idea as a way to bring even more legitimacy to an already bipartisan investigation. she made it official today, however. kevin mccarthy, the gop leader, wasting no time weighing in. he is saying that pel

something similar to arizona. you've had some choice words about this aemt itted move. but regardless of whether it happens or not or moves ahead at all, do you worry this still works to undermine the confidence of voters in the commonwealth? >> as i've said, my choice words, like, this is the very back of the gop bench. again, this is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier that is behind this. the bottom line is that the main line republicans don't want to talk about this any more. they don't want to run on election conspiracies. and if they end up performing an audit, that would be fine because it would just confirm what we already know, that joe biden won. this is all theatrics on this side. but it is not something that we need to be taken seriously, but it also works to the democratic advantage because you could not win in pennsylvania talking to the lunatic fringe and you cannot win with a news max candidacy state wide here in pennsylvania and that is exactly what this is rooted in here. >> well then i'm curious, to this, we know the election result in pennsylvan