today, arizona republicans who are doing there, so called, audit, in arizona, they gave a briefing on the progress. only two republican senators were there but they try to call it a hearing. this audit that they're doing in arizona, they launched it in april, this it will take three weeks. it's of course mid july under still going strong. they make clear today that they're definitely finding all the fraud they've been fantasizing about. but it's definitely gonna take a lot of more investigation, lots more materials, probably lots more donations from trump supporters nationwide. it looks like they will subpoena more stuff from the county america where they got all the ballots from. the way they're talking about it today it sounds like they have weeks to go, maybe months still to go. it's such a big and complex investigation. there is no sign that there was anything wrong with the presidential vote in arizona. nothing. there is no sign that there was anything wrong with it, at all. and i'm saying that because i can observe it, because i can observe that the vote in arizona was subjected

it's very dangerous. >> it's not just arizona. yesterday i spoke with michigan attorney general about the impact of the big lie on her state. let's take a listen to what she had to say about that. >> i don't know how we're ever going to get back on course after what we seen in our state. i don't know how we'll get to a point where the average voter in the state of michigan will ever believe what we know to be true, which is our elections are safe, secure and accurate. >> that's pretty stunning. how concerned are you for the same affect in arizona? >> it is vr stunning. i do have concerns but the fact of the majority of arizona voters across the board, not necessarily in one particular party but most voters do have faith in the election systems and the security and fairness of our elections and they also don't support what's going on here with this fake audit. they see it for the sham that it is and they honestly tired of this partisan games. that is a big part of the reason i'm running for governor to get to work on real issues fo

arizona's electoral votes. that's because we've seen a big surge in latino voters, mefrm voters and native american voters for the first time in a long time, not just registering but turning out to vote. they've made it harder for folks because they lost the last election. instead of playing by the rules which they lost by, they're trying to make it harder for communities of color. the decision by the u.s. supreme court was disappointing but not surprising because what we see with the conservative majority in the supreme court is an attempt to slowly make it harder for communities of color, rural americans, rural arizonaans to have access to the ballot box. it is disappointing but not surprising. we have heard next year that the republican colleagues in the legislature will be introducing some of the more onerous restrictions and ways to make it harder for people to access the ballot box. it will be a full-on war not just this year but next year when we go back to legislative session in january. >> you saw demo

joining us is arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, also a candidate for governor in arizona. madam secretary, first, is there no recourse to regain possession of these ballots so that they're not moved again and potentially tampered with? >> well, the recourse would be between the maricopa county and the senate, who has ordered this audit. but, really, you know, this is exactly why we have been fighting against this from the get-go. these are not experts. they're making this up as they go along. it is not a real audit. they don't know what they're doing and they're not taking their role right now as custodian of these ballots and equipment seriously. that's very clear from everything we've seen. >> and, in fact, your ability to do your job is being hampered by -- i want to read from the npr reporting on this. arizona republicans stripped some election power from democratic secretary of state, arizona republicans have stripped the secretary of state's office, currently held by a democrat, of the right to defend the state's election laws in court or choose not to. the change en

let me put up some of the arizona's great reporting from over the holiday. arizona republican chair kelly ward's pressure campaign with hickman, the gop official who refused to pick up trump's call, began in earnest on november 7th as votes were still being counted. ward complained election observers were unable to see. after hickman pressed for specifics ward responded, quote, we need you to stop the counting. days later on november 13th, she wrote, we want you guys to do the right thing, prove to millions of arizona voters that the maricopa vote is legit. don't try to simply tell us that the recorder and elections department say it's fine. prove it to arizona and to america. you have all the power you need to make it happen. the pressure campaign is clearly coming from the ex-president. i think he bragged about it. i think he flew some of the officials from michigan in, and it really does sort of undergird the point that save for a handful of local election officials, a lot of them republicans, we could have had a very different outcome in november. >> yea

voters in arizona are tired of this. they want real leadership. and they want folks that are going to tackle real problems. rehashing the 2020 election is not one of them. >> secretary hobbs, it's easy for people to watch what is happening in arizona or watch what is happening in texas or watch what is happening in georgia and say, that's just arizona, that's just texas, that's just georgia. i don't live in any of these three states. can you talk to me a little bit about how all of these threats weave together and the way in which they challenge not just democracy in the state of arizona, but democracy writ large. >> absolutely. we've been having conversations secretaries of state and other election officials across the country who are concerned about this fake audit in maricopa county. we've seen legislators from other states come and tour and try to bring this kind of thing to their state, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, georgia. there's a lot of concern about this. the goal here is not to validate the 2020 election results, to continue to so

in phoenix, arizona. this is thursday last week, it was 112 degrees in phoenix that day. ♪ can't take it no more ♪ ♪ we're fired up ♪ ♪ we're fired up ♪ ♪ can't take it no more ♪ >> fired up, can't take it no more. 112 degrees that day in phoenix. not counting the radiant heat off the tarmac there. that was outside the office of arizona's republican attorney general, mark burn avich. those folks were protesting outside his office because of his role in promoting and defending new voting rights restrictions in arizona, including all the way up to the united states supreme court. also, arizona's new rules about how the state's elections will be conducted in the future, new rules explicitly designed to make sure officials from the democratic party can't play a top role in election administration in arizona anymore, only republicans will be allowed to do that from here on out. of those folks protesting outside attorney general's office in arizona, nine were arrested. it wasn't -- they weren't

"the arizona republic" reports tonight that one of the republican state senators in arizona who's been promoting the audit thing in arizona all along, he's now selling t-shirts promoting his cause. the cost of his t-shirts, it's a sliding scale by size. they're $35 to $45 for a t-shirt. wow, order yours today. it's $35 for a small or $45 for a double extra large, which frankly just seems rude. the "washington post" reports tonight former president trump seemed to have found a tidy path through the wreckage to pay his living expenses via this nonsense he continues to stoke. the headline in "the post" tonight, quote trump's pac collected $75 million this year, but so far the group has not put money into pushing for the 2020 tally he touts. it raised about $75 million the first half of this year as he trumpeted the false notion the 2020 election was stolen from him. but the pac has not devoted funds to help finance or push for similar endeavors in other states, according to people familiar with the finances. instead the save america leadership pac, which has few limits on how it can spend

this is not new in arizona, either. i mean, we have seen accusations, false accusations in a lot of different places for a while. the reality is that, as we continue to improve our systems and protect the voters of arizona, and expand the way that people vote, the access they have, some people will be afraid of what's happen. it's the fear in the far right, the fear in some extremists, that fear is manifesting into this willingness to believe just about anything for comfort. it's too bad, because americans, particularly arizonaarizonaens, not a fearful bunch. most of what has been spouted out is just not true, and it's unfortunate. >> you used your twitter feed to stay away from the rally yesterday, but as you are campaigning around the state, you're talking to people who still choose to follow trump. do you discover they have genuine concerns? or are they more part of this trumpian fan base? >> there's genuine concerns. donald trump was the president of the united states for a kermit. >> a lot of the interactions i've

this hour we have reporters in germany and arizona covering that crisis, in oregon and d.c. covering the infrastructure debate, and in mississippi and california covering the dangerous spread of coronavirus. in fact, that is where we will start. nbc's allison barber is outside a hospital in jackson, mississippi, where they are starting to see a rise in children hospitalized with covid. las vegas an indoor mask mandate is back in america's second largest city and i want to bring in dylan byers and dr. patel. let's start in mississippi, one of the least vaccinated states in our country and now children make up 7% of icu covid patients statewide there. what are you hearing from folks on the ground about the crisis? >> reporter: yeah, the numbers are rising here. they're rising quickly. that's what's giving a lot of doctors concern is the rate at which they're seeing these numbers really start to pick up. we are outside of a children's hospital. it's part of a larger medical system. one of the largest in this state. they say they have seen hospitalizations pick up across all age

so, this is damaging in many ways to arizona. and it is unfortunate that the folks running the show continue to try to drag it out for their political goals. >> well would you advise the house oversight committee in washington in their investigation of this, what you call me fraudit? what should they be looking for and asking about? >> i think all the things that they highlighted in their letter it all of the right points. and the points that we have been making for months about all the problems associated with this exercise. i welcome their voices and their intervention into this fight. quite frankly, our offices here concerns from voters every single day over this exercise. and they are tired of these partisan games. that is why i am running for governor to get to work on real issues and problems that we have here in arizona. not rehashing the 2020 election. and folks can join me in that katie hobbs.org. >> let me ask you about that. your secretary of state, now. you are directly involved in elections election security. wouldn'

the degree to which there are a few courageous republicans of her november 3rd in arizona, in georgia -- they're all being attacked, and getting very little support from other republicans around the country. so the problem with -- some of the republicans, i don't know how many i believe the big lie, but others are ready to sign up to. it >> robert how will -- republicans casually believe that there is some voter fraud in the country that needs to be dealt with but the don't share the view that joe biden didn't win the election. what's a way to make this a more partisan left hurt? because at the state level, and this is getting out of control. >> i think you're going to have to see this happen really at the dnc level, at the political level. i think you saw this happen earlier in the week with vice president harris. we announcing a renewed effort at a democratic national committee to take this on as an issue, to think about how to eventually register more voters, how to fight voter suppression, how to get back into the court system. i think the challenge that you heard from bill and ot

it is in full swing in arizona. we are expecting them to announce their supposedly scandalous results sometime soon. republicans even now are movinga to also do it in wisconsin, also in pennsylvania, also in georgia. even also in oklahoma where trump won by more than 30 points, but still there must have been democratic fraud. in his remarks today, president biden then turned to what voting rights advocates are desperate u to hear from him.fr a full-throated unreserved call to act, to protect voting rights nationally in washington, which is the only way to stop the state-by-state devastating attacks on voting rights that republicans are now pursuing across the country. watch. >> last month republicans opposed even debating, even considering for the people's act. senate democrats stood united to protect our democracy and the sanctity of the vote. we must pass the for the people act. it's a national imperative. we must also fight for the john lewis voting rights advancement act to restore and expand -- [ cheers and app

that's apparently unique to arizona. and so they're asking now the people running it are saying, oh, we don't have enough time to finish, we need more time, and we need more information. they were handed all of the ballots. what more information could they possibly want? >> well, i think they're trying to make it look like maricopa county has not been cooperative with them, which is absolutely not the case. they're trying to make it look like there are potentially incomplete results because of this. but the bottom line is they're just continuing to try to drag this out so that they can continue to sow doubts all the way into the 2022 and 2024 elections. >> arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> we're joined now by colorado's secretary of state, jena griswold, the chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state. secretary griswold, this case in your state in colorado, federal judges handling saying not one iota of evidence of any kind of election f

maricopa county, arizona. the one being run by the cyber ninjas' guy, who is a qanon stop the steal conspiracy theorist. where they have been running through ballots. they have been taking the the ballots and running them under ultra violet light looking for bamboo fibers because maybe the ballots were secretly sent to america from east asia. today, the guy who's been overseeing the audit for the arizona republicans quit. after being locked out. i'm -- that's not a -- i mean, he was actually, physically, locked out of the building where the audit has been taking place. well, that was this morning. he quit. and then, later today, he unquit. so, that's going well. the whole arizona audit circus was supposed to last a few weeks. we are now four months in. the arizona senate republicans, just this week, sent a whole new batch of subpoenas to maricopa county for more stuff that they want to look at. they are just going to keep on looking. this thing is going to go on forever, so that donald trump and his allies can

so, pete, let's go with the arizona case first. and i want to start with there were two parts challenged. one had to do with the collection of ballots, the other had to do with this idea if you voted in the wrong precinct what would happen to those ballots? was there any thought of splitting those two? did the challengers at all, you know, sometimes they'll make an argument, look, if you're going to uphold that this is more egregious, the throwing away of ballots was more egregious. any attempt to split that? >> no, not really. i mean, there was different analysis during the challenges about the effect they have on voters but what justice alito says in his majority opinion, any time you change the vogt rules it imposes some kind of burden on somebody somehow. and there's always been a burden to voting. he says you got to get up, go to the poll, apply for a ballot. you got to put it in the mailbox. those are all to some extent inconveniences so the test, he says, under the voting rights act is what kind of disparity does that create

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when he lost arizona. but, you know, we're pretty hard-nosed scrupulous reporters and we're not won over that easily. we will see what he thinks of this book. he doesn't seem to like it so far. >> yeah, i don't doubt that. i want to play some sound of the president talking about the 2020 election. >> there's tremendous proof, there's tremendous proof. statistically it wasn't even possible that he won. i mean, things such as if you win florida and ohio and iowa, there's never been a loss. >> there was a loss. >> and did you need better lawyers because they took it to court but they didn't give enough evidence to convince the judges. >> no, i needed better judges. i needed better judges. the supreme court was aggrade to take it. >> and it is -- he brings up the supreme court, right, having so many of his own appointees on the supreme court. >> yes. >> he actually thinks these supreme court judges are his judges, right, his attorney general, they advocate for him, when, in fact, that is not their job. >> that

. >> he and his backers have been focused on arizona. we will explain why you probably will hear a little more about votes in the grand canyon state. >>> as the nation remembers john lewis on the one-year anniversary of his death, the voting rights bill he inspired is facing an uncertain future in congress. president biden continues to issue dire warning about the fight to protect voting rights, activists remain concern that his actions are falling short. nbc's josh letterman is at the white house with more. josh, how is the administration responding to some of these criticisms, people who are worried that these plans to try and help with voting rights just aren't a top priority right now? >> reporter: right, exactly. those activists, they want to see president biden make voting rights as big of a priority as he has infrastructure spending and the response, frankly, to the covid-19 pandemic. now, the white house obviously says they are doing everything that they possibly can to try to move this forward, including using executive action,

. >> recount continues in arizona, remarkable thing. pennsylvania trying to do something similar. texas legislature looking at everything that worked in last election and deciding to make it illegal. there are state leaders, civil rights leaders went to the white house to plead with the president and vice president for leadership on the federal level. appears on tuesday in philadelphia joe biden is going to say something about voting rights in america. what can he say, what can he do? >> he can do is say things. essentially all the power he has. that's exactly what those civil rights leaders said to him yesterday. wanted to hear him use his bully pulpit more than he has. tasked vice president kamala harris -- she asked to lead on voting rights, but when it comes to legislation, it's over and dead. that's what happened with not allowing debate, republican blocking debate on the for the people act, democracy reform. john lewis advancement act hasn't even really been written in the house or senate. so there's not a lot of legislative push. civil rights leaders spoke with him for hour

the whole arizona audit circus was meant to last a few weeks, we are now four months. in the senators say that the new batch of subpoenas that -- they're just gonna keep on looking. this thing is gonna go on forever so that donald trump and his allies can keep pointing to it and say proof of all the fraud is coming, it's just around the corner. and it's spreading. in wisconsin, the republican chair of the assembly elections committee is gathering up for her own arizona audit. she doesn't just won a forensic audit, she wants a cyber forensic audit. we don't know what that is but i'm sure that it is much fancier than the regular audit. this is how a wisconsin we republican made a pilgrimage -- this is on top of the investigation initiated by the republican speaker of the wisconsin assembly who wired some ex cops to dig into the 2020 election results for him under the watchful supervision of a republican former wisconsin supreme court justice who became a stop the steal activist after the election. and there's also the audit of ballots in, wisconsin being carried out by a

in arizona and florida they'll be kicking people off the absentee voting list, in arizona, iowa, florida kentucky utah they'll be expanding voter purges, kicking people off the voter rolls entirely. in florida, arkansas, new hampshire in wyoming there is harsher, stricter narrow voter i.d. requirements. and yes, in florida and georgia they're banning water or any food or snacks for anyone in line no matter how long the line gets, no matter how hot it is that the, no matter how old the waiting voter is. 18 different states, 30 different voter restrictions law and counting, those are past, those are laws. and the effort to find a way to stop it, to try to put a floor under voting rights nationwide so no state can restrict voting rights below that nationwide floor to hold them up, that fight still hinges on the for the people act, which has passed the house and it's stuck in the senate, is still stuck in the senate because of uniform republican opposition to it and the hope the republicans are getting in that effort from democratic senator joe manchin. as we've been reporting for the past c

the arizona republic reports hickman's phone rang about 8:30 p.m. on new year's eve while he was on a date with his wife and friends in north central phoenix. he didn't recognize the number carrying washington d.c.'s area code and let it go to voice mail. hickman quickly listened to the message. the white house switchboard wanted him to call back so he could talk to the president he called in an interview with the arizona republic. hickman did not return the call and later deleted the voice mail. trump encouraged him to find enough votes to reverse trump's narrow loss there. hickman recalled listening to the leaked audio of that hour-long phone call after "the washington post" and other media outlets published the recording. i was horrified, hickman said. that same night at 9:22 p.m. approaching midnight in washington, his phone buzzed again. it was the same area code. he let it go to voice mail again. here is that voicemail from the white house operator on january 3rd. >> hello, sir, this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know t

a similar criminal investigation might be underway tonight in arizona. if only lifelong republican had decided to answer his phone. the arizona republican reports then president donald trump try to speak directly with the chair of the maricopa county board of supervisors in the weeks after the november 2020 election as his allies sought to change the election results in a state he narrowly lost to democrat joe biden. donald trump called lifelong republican clinic man twice, they're a white house operator. it's reported his phone rang 8:30 pm on new year's eve, while he was on a date with his wife and friends in north central phoenix. he didn't recognize the number of carrying washington d.c.'s area code and let me go to voice mail. hickman quickly listen to the message. white house switchboard wanted him to call back so he could talk to the president, he recalled in an interview with the arizona republic. hickman did not return the call and later deleted that voice mail, he said. three days later, news broke of trump's january 2nd phone call with georgia

. >> meanwhile, in arizona, another democrat fighting to protect voters, arizona secretary of state katie hobbs who has asked her state's republican vaccine averse attorney general to open up a criminal investigation into whether trump and his allies broke the law in their efforts to pressure maricopa county officials after the election. hobbs has made it clear that fighting her state's sham fraudit isn't just about affirming the last election but preventing republicans from stealing the next one, which is exactly what they're now opening trying to do. while exporting more partisan sham reviews to other states like pennsylvania where a state senator who participated in the pro-trump events in d.c. before the insurrection is now demanding, get this, that binders full of ballots be delivered to him. it shouldn't surprise you that pennsylvania fraudit guise considered for running for governor. we see you, republicans, rolling out the full insurexz tool kit to any state where you have legislative control in order to instill social chaos and crush our democracy using, quote, election integrity

then came this challenge to arizona's supreme court. the law requires election officials to throw away ballots cast at the wrong precinct. you have two voting areas, two places to vote, you go to the wrong one, vote there, woops, it gets thrown out. it makes it a crime for anyone to collect and deliver ballots to polling places other than family members. we know this had a disparate impact. they found tossing ballots cast in the wrong precinct has the effect of undercounting minority votes by a factor of 2 to 1. allowing someone else to drop off a ballot is particularly important for indigenous communities in arizona. today the supreme court's conservative majority said all of that stuff is fine. i could give you the legal reasoning but here's the real reasoning. they and all other parts of the right are working in tandem against america's multi-racial democracy. now donald trump's version of that is more vulgar, cringe inducing whipping up a mob to go beat up cops and chant hang mike pence and storm the capitol and go marauding to find

you see it in wisconsin, you see the arizona fraud being used as a model. but i have to say and i understand -- i take yamiche's point all the things the white house has to juggle today but a lack of real focus and urgency on the part of the democrats to deal with this including the failure to focus on the other aspect of this not just the access to the ballot box but nullifications of elections. the power of state legislatures to overturn the election. the electoral vote counting act that might allow a republican congress to set aside the winner of an actual election. they seem to go through the motions and wave their hands at it. but it does feel like, again, going through the motions as opposed to a real sense of urgency, a full-court press would involve compromised legislation, more aggressive action by the department of justice, and a much more aggressive approach by the white house including the president and the vice president and, quite frankly, i know we're supposed to think they're addressing it today, but i actually think what you just played hig

we're going to head to arizona now. former president donald trump back in the grand canyon state for the first time since losing the election. he held a rally in downtown phoenix. peddling the same substance of election fraud. >> maricopa county's 2.1 million ballots, the focus of that controversial audit, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. here's nbc steve patterson with more. >> yes, kendis, lindsey. the former presidents former trump speaking for about two hours. before that we saw a train of trump supporters in the form of candidates running for office for governor, for secretary of state. for congress. here in arizona. really across the country. all wanting to really be in his light, to sort of pledge fealty to the former president as he still controls much of the party. meanwhile, the president speaking on a wide range of topics. not being shy about the southern border. about critical race theory. about political opponents. also digging into things like the cleveland indians achieving their name to the

from arizona to missouri to nebraska to georgia. i mean we could tell -- to texas. we see this happening. it is a concerted effort. it is an all-out effort on the part of the republican party. i think what you have been saying over the course of these many weeks, nikole, you have been sounding the alarm, you have been trying to tell folk that we are in serious danger, that democracy is in serious danger. i think it is time for president biden to go on the offensive. i think he needs to give a speech about not the state of the union but the state of american democracy from the oval office, to set the terms of the debate, to bring the fight to these people, because the stakes are that high. we keep seeing democrats on their heels while republicans are attacking at every front, on every front. it seems to me, given what we have described, what you have described, what we know, democrats have to go aggressive, and if they don't we need to start asking questions why. >> okay. i want to throw out everything i was going to ask you guys. let's talk about this. what does tha

just last week, it was a legal challenge to arizona voting restrictions. the supreme court seemed to credit the idea that there was a true threat of voter fraud that needed to be addressed by the states and that could take steps through more restrictive laws to address claims of voter fraud. even at the highest echelons of the courts, we are seeing this big lie is in fact becoming embedded as a big fact. that's fueling more and more legislation, and more restrictive legislation that will make it harder for voters to go to the polls and vote. >> jonathan, let's talk about border rights and the civil rights group that met with the president today and the vice president. they're making it clear, you heard reverend al say they are starting a movement from the ground up to stop the erosion of voting rights. p to stop the erosio of voting rights what impact does not have? the fact a civil rights leaders, most of whom are allied with the white house in the first place, what difference does it make that they went there and sat with the president and the vice presi

jackson arrested in arizona appeared for arraignment today. the feds say they saw him amongst the proud boys. he, they say, tried to argue it was antifa and blm, that denialism continues to this day. >> clint, we talked at the top of the show about vaccine hesitancy and what the message is, who can be the messenger. when it comes to being honest about what happened on january 6th, why it happened, is there someone who can be the messenger that actually breaks through to these people if they were to come to reality themselves? >> i think it mostly comes interest capitol hill. it's got to be republican congressmen that are honest with the american people about the damage done to our democracy on january 6th. mike pence, the former vice president, he alone should be a messenger out there saying, hey look, these people were trying to attack me. they interrupted the democratic process. they did not allow for the peaceful transfer of power. in many of these jurisdictions, arizona, michigan, were these notions of a recount constantly being pushed for

the arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud. this isn't exactly voter fraud. this is out of three million ballots. some were republican cast votes. what can the federal government do at this point? >> every avenue we have within the court system is being systemically taken away from us. everything that we could have done legislatively is being taken away from us. now we're having to depend on the federal government, at this point in time, for states like arizona, texas, wisconsin, georgia, all of these places where these republican legislatures are passing some draconian election laws. we're having to depend on congress to come by and say let's take a look at what's really going on here. i hope our attorney general investigates because donald trump was calling our senate leaders just before this thing happened. >> greg abbott is trying to usher through conservative pipe dream with not om banning 24 hour voting but trying to expand or limit abortion rights and anti-trans laws. it's really scary here. it cast a wide dark shadow ov

arizona has done it. now pennsylvania, the republicans in pennsylvania legislature are pushing for an arizona style so-called 2020 election even though it's been tested and re-tested and re-litigated and the judges have all declared there was no problem in pennsylvania. what is pennsylvania going to do? >> to your point, andrea, here in philadelphia where i'm coming from and represent there has already been an audit in philadelphia twice, and don't take my word for it as a democratic congressman, the republican city commissioner, one of the commissioners in charge of our elections has verified that it was audited. furthermore, the entire vote count for philadelphia was actually live and streamed anywhere. the irony is, of course, that in 2020, donald trump had -- had slated better in philadelphia than he did four years prior, what really sunk him was the vote in the suburb switching so hard from red to blue. statewide in pennsylvania i am deeply concerned that we will no longer be in arizona and the key r

this is the headline from the arizona republic today. quote, arizona representatives andy biggs and paul gosar votes to abandon afghan allies. what follows is a scathing editorial indicting these two congressman for being part of a small group of 16 republicans who voted against an overwhelmingly bipartisan bill to try to expedite the process and forgetting afghan translator to help u.s. forces day safety as america ends its longest war. quote, when the u.s. pulled out of vietnam, there were unfortunate, sometimes tragic repercussions for some of the vietnamese who assisted our troops. the idea of the house bill was to not let that happen again. to appreciate loyalty to. demonstrate empathy. to emphasize humanity. the bill before the most unmistakably and indisputably good. in voting, no, congressman gosar and biggs prove themselves to be unmistakably and indisputably the opposite. gosar and biggs are not the only republicans facing bash slash for voting against helping the translators. the veterans group released this ad targeting two d

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it's not that popular even amongst republicans in arizona. republicans trying to be competitive in pennsylvania, this can ultimately hurt them. >> i think it will. i think they will be shown to be hollow and hollow arguments. look at what pennsylvania did well. we had a $3 billion budget surplus added to that at the federal level. 7.9 billion in relief. we have an economy growing. we are above the president's standard for july 4th in terms of vaccinations. and you just interviewed the fantastic doctor with the black doctors consortium. we are moving forward. these sad republican would be leaders are walking in reverse. and i think eventually the voters figure that out and recognize the big lie did not happen. the election was not stolen. there is not massive fraud. in fact, as most people in a non-partisan way recognize, the last election was one of the fairest, most free elections ever. >> congresswoman good to see you as always. madelene dean of pennsylvania. much more on the select committee on tomorrow's show. i'll be joined by two democr

you mentioned the arizona recall -- recount rather, the voter fraud cases that have been found. according to the associated press as of yesterday, again, more than 3 million votes cast in that state, they found a big total of 182 cases that just warranted looking at, of which four, four, that's it, four were found to have lead to problems and that they brought charges. no one has been convicted, by the way. those kinds of numbers, it doesn't even begin to support these ridiculous and bizarre theories, but you have written about the qanon persistence and how it has been a problem. enough so that dhs is monitoring discussions about these theories online. give me a sense of how great a threat dhs is considering qanon. do you think it is possible to combat this group via dhs in some way? >> well, this is from one of my colleague's reporting, betsy swann. she wrote a few weeks ago that dhs was monitoring it. they didn't have any kind of evidence, anything that was going to happen, but it is just something that is on their radar this summer, especially considering everything that happ

this hour we have reporters in germany and arizona

the lake sits on the arizona-utah border. it's currently at 32% capacity and scientists say it could drop by another two feet in just a couple of days. nbc's lindsay riser is in page, arizona. lindsay, how are officials responding to this crisis? what does that mean for folks who live in the surrounding areas? >> jose, great to be with you. thank you for having me. they're taking emergency measures because it's never been this bad, and this is a crucial resource here -- out here in the west. when we're talking just about the water supply and it feeds the local community of page. when we're talking recreation, we can see a lot of boats and ski boats, speed boats behind me and it's essentially enter at your own risk at this point and houseboats aren't supposed to be launched here because many boaters are reporting difficulty launching and retrieving their vessels, and we haven't even talked yet jose about the hydropower and the nearby glen canyon dam produces power and when there's lower water supply there's less tension on the

and yet in maricopa county, arizona, they continue to count votes. this cyber ninja operation continues to count votes. i think they're going to count votes until the votes disappear or the number of votes they get are found. the fact of the matter is, so far in that audit, nothing of value has been found. there have been under a couple hundred of votes that are questionable, that are worthy, perhaps, according to the cyber ninjas of further investigation. nowhere near the number of votes that donald trump would need to counter his defeat in that county, let alone in that state. we now have a house panel. the house oversight and reform committee that is looking into the cyber ninjas and trying to get them to provide information. >> and to provide context. not just a couple hundred of votes, but a couple hundred votes out of 3 million. when you put it in perspective and context, you see how insignificants is. one of the reasons the house committee is investigating this process, because it appears to be very sketchy, happening out on a former basketbal

and in arizona, wisconsin, in georgia it was recounted three times. it's clear for those who challenge the results and question the integrity of the he no other election has ever been held under such scrutiny and such high standards. the big lie is just that. a big lie. >> 2020 election. it's not just hyperbole. it's the will of the people of this nation. this should bee celebrated. an example of america at its best. but instead we continue to see an example of human nature at its worst, something darker and more sinister. in america, if you lose, you accept the results. you follow the constitution. you c try again. you don't call facts fake and then try toca bring down the american experiment just because you're unhappy. that's not statesmanship. that's selfishness. that is the denial of the right to vote. it see presses, it subjugates free and fair elections the most unamerican thing that any of us can imagine.ng the most undemocratic, the most unpatriotic. yet sadly, not unprecedented. from denying people full citizenship until the 13th, 14th and 1

the supreme court voted this week to uphold two arizona laws that would make it harder for people of color to access the

states like georgia, states like arizona. >> yeah. indeed. representative fischer, you are working with nancy pelosi, the congressional black caucus, hoping for a sit-down with kristen synama. what do you hope to gain? >> we've got to know the positions of the parties. we've heard recently of some discussions regarding with clyburn and his attempt to work on a resolution to carve out the filibuster for voting rights. i agree with him 100%. there should not be a rule or tradition that trumps our u.s. constitution, and our right to vote should come before senate tradition, and this is a now or never moment for our country. this is a now or never moment for our democracy. we need to have one standard when it comes to voting in the united states, and that's the american standard. it is very clear to me there's an attack on democracy. voices are being silenced across this country. the eyes of the nation are on texas. we are here in washington, we are asking everyone to join us in this fight and let's do this together. we are the last folks on this

his appearance comes as arizona presses ahead with his republican-led audit of maricopa county ballots from the 2020 election. >>> on capitol hill the january 6th house select committee is getting set to hold its first hearing on tuesday. it comes after house speaker nancy pelosi fired back at minority leader kevin mccarthy, for pulling his five appointments, a move he made in response to pelosi blocking two of the picks. now the speaker is deciding whether to administrator am kinzinger. and joining me, sahil from the capitol. what are you hearing on the hill and do democrats want more republicans on this committee? >> reporter: alex, some democrats appear intrigued by the prospect of one republican in particular, adam kinzinger, the congressman from illinois, apart from liz cheney, who is already on the committee. he is the only other republican who voted to create it. benny thompson, the chair of the committee, called mr. kinzinger a fine representative and the type of person who would be good for this committee. speaker pelosi a couple of days ago joked that everyone else seems to t

that's doug ducey, republican governor of arizona. is his concern warranted, and are you concerned about some confusion? people thought their children were going to go to school without masks, people have been indoors without masks on. >> i think the governor's interpretation is completely misguided and off base. there's no one rule that says there's one strategy to deal with this. and especially since we have this incredible surge due to the delta variant, the delta mutation, all bets are off, and people have to understand that we have to pull out all the armaments in our shiver -- shiver? in our back back to make sure we have done everything possible. the vaccination agenda is extremely critical. that must happen. one of the reasons we're getting surges is there are so many pockets in the united states that people are so undervaccinated that they were susceptible to getting sick with the delta variant. that is "a." and "b" is that, yes, we do have to wear masks indoors, even those people who have been vaccinated when the original ru