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. ♪ ♪ >>> topping our political lead, former president trump heads to arizona this weekend to boost the big lie that the election was stolen from him, which we know is not true. this as the so-called audit of the 2020 votes in maricopa county launched by arizona republicans continues. let's launch right into it with our panel of ladies wearing red. you've got on red shoes. [ laughter ] so let's talk about this. really it's stunning what "the washington post" is reporting, that former president trump's political pac stockpiled $75 million, and most of that money is staying in its war chest. why not put your money where your mouth is? >> well, billionaire presidential candidate is someone who's also known for never wanting to really risk his own money when it comes down to it. there's a lot of talk and very little action. and i think it really demonstrates that at the end of the day what this is all about that war chest is all about is his own political future, what happens to him, his ability to run again in 2024, and not so much financing this sham audit in arizona, which i think even h

and in philadelphia and pennsylvania, you end one the same situation you in arizona. one drew president trump's ire when he said things like this. >> there have been all these allegations of massive or widespread voter fraud. and if that's the case, they should at least be able to site a single case of it in any of the state and federal lawsuits filed in pennsylvania. and as of yet, there have been none. >> none. not a single case of it. the pennsylvania circus that we're seeing right now is coming on the heels of that audit in arizona. the audit run by a company that calls itself cyber ninjas. the board of supervisors has condemned the audit, and i want to note four of the five members of that board are republican. the board writing, it's time to end this, for the good of the senate, for the good of the country, and for the good of the democratic institutions that define us as americans. these lies about the election integrity, these audits are dangerous. because some people believe them. trump supporters believe they will lead to trump being reinstated. >> are you d

moved out of the coliseum, brought across the arizona state fair grounds on these trucks and delivered to a storage facility. and now look at this next video clip. and this is from about a week ago. this facility looks like you'd expect, storage, ballots are all boxed up. there's nothing happening. it looks like a ring camera. well, suddenly, there was activity. this morning, if you look at this next video clip, suddenly, there were two counters, they're paper counters that were delivered. and we are now told it's not a hand count, it's a machine count. these machines are going to count each ballot. they're not going to look at what's on the ballot. they're just going to count the ballot. the arizona audit spokesman tells me is the reason they're doing this is to double and triple check what the contractor has done, cyber ninjas. he's calling it basically cleaning up. what does that mean? i don't know. i've talked to a number of people. maricopa election officials and national officials, and they're scratching their heads saying they just don't know what's happening, anderson. >> just

now there are no good options for this audit here in arizona. it was -- first of all, it was unnecessary. our republican county board of supervisors, which is 4-1 republican conducted two audits using election assistance commission approved companies, bipartisan commission, non-partisan professional companies two audits confirmed we had a fair election here in maricopa county. it was no purpose to begin with but since it's been a conclusion in search of evidence and now that no evidence of fraud or error has been detected, they've taken to inventing statistics and facts made up out of thin air about more ballots received than requested, which of course is thoroughly debunked. there is no good resolution for this. when i started, there is no good that can come out of this. >> here is the thing, when this audit and, you know, i put the quotes around it, when this is done, whatever it's done, it been going on and on and still goes on and on and there is an outcome and what chris said is powerful. you can go off the cliff or jump off the train going

arizona is turning into a politically-purple state. and they are concerned. >>> strong values and strong opinions. >> there is not one bit of proof of any of this. >> reporter: he is the go to for conservative talk on arizona radio. but on these so-called audit? >> i understand that i'm an outlier with my own people when i question what people are going to think about this audit. >> reporter: mike, lifelong republican. trump? >> yeah. >> you voted for him? >> twice. twice, i voted for him. >> reporter: but trump lost and broomhead thinks a so-called audit is a waste of time. instead, he thinks the focus should be on winning republican seats in 2022. >> if they win enough seats in the house, they take over the majority in the house. >> reporter: but some of his listeners, his base, now call him everything from a turncoat to a rino to a liberal. >> when you throw people out that disagree with you, it's hard to get them back when you need them to vote. and that scares me. >> reporter: politically, what is at stake here for republicans? >>

a key focal point is that so-called audit in arizona that we have been following closely. it was supposed to finish already, so we thought. what is the latest chapter in all of this with this so-called audit? >> it's a bizarre chapter. we have been following and watching on the floor. it's a hand count. they were looking at each ballot. that part allegedly is done. you can look at this now as the sequel you didn't want. what we saw -- let me catch you up to date. if you look at this picture. we saw the ballots being boxed up, moved out of the coliseum, brought across the arizona state fairgrounds on these trucks and delivered to a storage facility. look at this next video clip. this is from about a week ago. this facility looked like you would expect, storage. the ballots are boxed up. there's nothing happening. it looks like a ring camera. suddenly, there was activity. this morning, if you look at this next video clip, suddenly there were two counters, paper counters that were delivered. with are now told it's not a hand count. it's a machine count. these machines are goi

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not recommended for use, in arizona's summer. cooled by fans and a network of portable coolers, the white hoses hanging all over the facility. this is now home to maricopa county, arizona's, 2020 ballots. a handful of workers began the day with the "star-spangled banner" and god bless america with some ymca dancing. the song donald trump used at his rallies leading up to the 2020 vote. why is all of this happening? the arizona audit spokesman says the numbers they have, after a handcount, don't match with maricopa county's. >> sometimes, we counted more. you know, so it's -- but there's variations in the -- the count. and we are just trying to get to a number that's -- we believe is accurate. >> reporter: whatever they do find, it won't impact the 2020 election because arizona's also, two previous audits by maricopa county didn't find any widespread fraud, but he maintains they could find gaps to continue the question the election. >> i'm saying that's the possible. i'm not saying it did. just a risk raises questions and that's w

think about the fraudit in arizona, okay? the cyber ninja who has this outfit has no business doing anything like this. they never have before and the guy at the head of it is a known mall factor when it comes to conspiracies. they throw out a number. 74,000 questionable mail-in ballots. out no the ether. what about that number? it's garbage. the number alone though is enough to get trumpers riled up. so weighs the truth? where does 74,000 come from? it comes from comparing two lists. one for ballots requested and one for ballots submitted. so what's the discrepancy? where is the 74,000? 74,000 people voted early over a weekend, but their ballot submissions were not updated in the count until monday when the clerks returned to work. is that really it? yes. who says so. the republicans in arizona say so. you know, your people, if you're in that party. so that's the truth. but it doesn't matter. why? because the misinformation is in intoxicating because it fuels what people want to be true. there is a problem. and that's why th

caromo is still looking for something like the arizona review. >> common sense tells you if someone is doing something effectively, you learn from them, that way you can replicate the process yourself. >> reporter: in arizona, their secretary of state candidate and current state representative mark finch. >> we know there is fraud. >> reporter: he's taken his fraud claims to qanon and also in the insurrection. >> i never came anywhere near the entry point to the capitol. >> reporter: he still touted that somehow the claim of fraud could reinstate trump. >> if you have enough of those back and you get below 270, we now have an illegitimate president. >> reporter: seizing on election fraud as the campaign has its d drawbacks, as wren williams is finding. >> now i have this issue where people are not willing to trust the system, and they are saying, look, we need you to vote. >> williams is in a pretty conservative place in his state. we tried to get he and finch to speak, and they did not want to answers questions, erin. >>> chief advisor to former president bush, you have people saying

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them, play this hypothetical out, and then provided it to a third party like what they're doing in arizona, the taxpayers in those counties would then be on the hook for millions and millions of dollars to replace all that equipment, because it ultimately would be compromised. so the taxpayers would not only pay for it with their dollars to buy new machines, but they would also pay for it because their personal security, their personal information, would be compromised by this sham audit. >> do you think this senator, state senator, actually believes what he's saying, or is this just cynical and dishonest -- as cynical and dishonest and potentially dangerous as it seems? >> look, i get asked that all the time. you would have to ask that state senator what he really believes. but i get asked generally, do these republicans really believe this stuff? anderson, that's what folks ask me. i think they do. i mean, this is the modern day republican party. this is who they are. they have bought into the big lie and sadly, they keep selling it to the good people of pennsylvania. they keep telling t

precisely, along the same lines that -- as the sham so-called audit now taking place in arizona. in fact, state senator doug mastriano was one of a group of local republican officials, who went to phoenix to see for themselves what was going on. last week, gary tuchman caught up with him flanked by some of his supporters to ask why he thinks last year's election count was wrong. >> all i want to know is what happened? >> let me ask you this, though. one thing you didn't mention. you know dozens of courts and judges around the country have ruled against trump's voting claims and a lot of them are trump appointed judges. do you really think the people are above the courts? this is the country of laws. >> all i want is a full -- and you know what? if there's nothing, if -- let the cards and chips fall where they may. if -- if the results were -- that's right -- if they were -- if they were as good as governor wolf and josh shapiro says they were, fantastic. and then, the people in the state will say, i have faith and it was -- if -- if -- i hope not but if the results show that ther

same thing in maricopa county, and in arizona, same thing in michigan, there were individual republicans with integrity who stood up. none of what's being talked about here really would do anything to protect that. i agree with what ramesh is saying. >> i think a couple things are happening. first, states are trying to change laws so that exactly what you just detailed, the power of who controls these elections, secretaries of states, it's being shifted in many states, in michigan, this is what happened with the flint water crisis. they changed who actually was controlling, who was controlling the election. the for the people act is not a fix-all solution, but it definitely would make voting more accessible, would make it fair and put some backstops in like we saw with the john lewis voting rights act to make sure there is federal protection, just like the democrats in texas, they can't do it all on the state level. some federal protections have to be in place. >> we'll keep talking about this. great to see you guys. >>> democrats are also facing major headwinds on another top biden agen

you also have in the state of pennsylvania now a gop-led senate considering an arizona style, frankly, fake audit of its own. m as someone who received death threats for defending the integrity of the election after trump himself singled you out, to your credit, i'm just going to give you a platform to speak to your fellow republicans about the dangers of activities like this. >> well, when the definition of being a republican is espousing the lie that the election was stolen and being called a rhino when you don't, that's a pretty sad kind of state of affairs. as for suggestions that we should bring whatever is going on in arizona with that election to pennsylvania, i would encourage our legislators to educate themselves to know that our elections are certified and that it was audited not once, but twice, and there is no doubt about the outcome. it was safe, it was secure, and it wasn't even close. >> to your credit for saying that. a lot of republicans won't, fearing the political consequences. melanie, back to you on capitol hill, still questions about who is going to end up on thi

he brought up the fact according to him he won the state of arizona, we know he lost the state of arizona because he was attacking john mccain, i a hero in that state, and he brought that up and attacked john mccain again in our interview. it's just again and again he would say things that weren't true saying they were true, like a different set of facts. a different universe in mar-a-lago. >> we're going to take a break and come back with more clips of the interview with the president including when asked about the vice president's refusal to overturn the election. ♪ ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪this magic moment,♪ but there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪so different and so new.♪ ♪was like any other...♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. if sweat is your body's natural way of cooling itself down. then condensation is a beer's natural way of saying: drink me. michelob ultra superior light beer. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schme

he brought up the fact according to him he won the state of arizona, we know he lost the state of arizona because he was attacking john mccain, i a hero in that state, and he brought that up and attacked john mccain again in our interview. it's just again and again he would say things that weren't true saying they were true, like a different set of facts. >> we're going to take a break and come back with more clips of the interview with the president including when asked about the vice president's refusal to over turn the election. and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. overturn the election. philadelphia. schmear perfection. what if you could have the perspective to see more? at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. ♪ we see companies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. we see a bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge. today, we are translating decades of experience into strategies for the road ahead. we are morgan stanley. and there you have it - wireless on

who argued these restrictions were racially motivated not only in arizona but across the country at a time when this debate is front and center in the united states. in a 6-3 ruling the court upholding a provision discarding in-person ballots cast in the wrong precinct and restricting third parties from collecting mail-in ballots. out front now, elections law expert and professor at university of california's irvine school of law. he's really been the go-to voice especially today with this ruling. let's begin with this lower court previously ruling, the supreme court disagreed, upheld the provisions. this weekend's another key protection from the landmark voting rights act section 2, what does it mean for voting in america big picture? >> so what it means is that the last of the three big tools that voting rights plaintiffs had in federal court to go after restrictive voting rules is now very weakened. it was preclearance under section 5 under the voting rights act where states with a history had to get approval before their laws. in a less well-known case in 2008 called crawford th

. >> the supreme court, as you know, recently upheld an arizona voting law that restricts how ballots can be cast. republicans have obviously taken that as an encouraging sign. they control 30 state legislatures across the country. democrats control 18. how do you go state by state and stop voting restrictions from being passed into law with the political reality that you pointed out, which is you have to get rid of the filibuster in order to get movement in anything passed through the senate and that seems right now impossible? >> i don't know that it is impossible. it's something that many of us are working on. and i think we can do everything we can politically to rally the american people, everything we can do legally. and in the united states senate, do everything we can to put pressure on our colleagues to finally stand up and say on this issue at least, i would go further, on this issue at least, the majority should rule. 50 votes plus the vice president says we're going to pass a voting rights legislation and end this outrageous republican attack on voting rights. that is what

three of them even voted to disenfranchise all the voters of arizona and all the voters of pennsylvania based on those lies. the three congressman i'm referring to are congressman jim banks, jim jordan, and troy nehls. will house speaker nancy pelosi approve these congressman for the committee? republicans are telling cnn they also want to investigate pelosi now and her role in approving security. >> reporter: yeah, that's going to be one of the focuses that republicans will have going forward looking at the role of nancy pelosi, what she did and she did not do on january 6th. what they are not saying is whether they will look into what donald trump in the run-up to january 6th. i asked several of them, they said they want to investigate everything and go where the facts lie, but they also made the point that nancy pelosi will be part of it. whether or not democrats call republicans who were in contact with donald trump in the run-up to january 6th to testify. that could include jim jordan himself. i asked jordan if he'd be willing to testify before this committee. he says he has nothin

safetyactioncenter.pge.com >>> tonight, a pennsylvania republican state senator and trump ally is pushing for an arizona style audit in his own state and threatening to subpoena election materials and voting machines as three pennsylvania counties reject the request they voluntarily turnover election materials including router logs. the router logs again and tabulation equipment. "outfront" now dan loughlin of pennsylvania. he opposes this attempted audit. appreciate your time tonight. you wrote an op ed ripping into your republican colleague e's attempt to aud tit the election again. why did you feel it was so important to speak out? >> appreciate you having me on tonight and the opportunity to get my message out. republicans in pennsylvania had a banner election year in 2020. we won up and down the ballot, we held the majority in the state senate. we picked up seats in the state house. we actually picked off the minority democratic leader. we picked up two other seats, statewide seats with the treasurer and the auditor general and we haven't held those seats concurrently in, i believe, 60 years. so we

apparently he was trying to do the same thing in arizona. there's new evidence surfacing tonight of more reported behind the scenes efforts by trump and his allies to pressure state election officials to help him retain the presidency. this was all back in the weeks after the 2020 election. you remember this in georgia? >> i just want to find

. >> and take a listen to donald trump over the weekend in his big lie rally in arizona. >> they say, well, sir, we have to get on to the future. let me tell you, you're not going to have a future. first of all, our nation is being destroyed, but you're not going to have a future in '22 or '24 if you don't find out how they cheated. >> so he seems to be acknowledging there that he is hearing from republicans we need to move on. and he's like, i don't care. >> right. and right now republican leaders are following his lead. a representative in georgia's delegation, he was just on tv last week talking about why he feels like georgia's election results need to be audited yet again. so, that has become such a focus for republicans is to continue to try to relitigate the 2020 election that was more than six months ago. >> trump arguably threw away the presidency by hyping this vote fraud idea and discouraging mail-in voting by republicans. he threw away the republican senate by convincing a lot of republican voters in georgia not to vote because votes couldn't be trusted. but apparently he'

we obviously have seen it in arizona, michigan was another one of their states where they are going to try to pressure people to take a look at this again. and getting rid of the official is a way to do that but to try to call it into question, to try to order a review again. but this is a purge. that is what this is. there is no other way to describe it. he said he resigned, this official, he wouldn't get into details, but everybody around the michigan gop is pretty familiar with this story that this is still going on six months after the inauguration is really telling about where the party is and how frozen the party is and how donald trump has frozen it. >> reporter: it's lunacy in my own commonwealth of pennsylvania, most republicans, not pat toomey and not a couple others, but most of the house republicans who are from pennsylvania voted against counting the votes of pennsylvanians during the election. >> right. this is where we are at. we are at a place where one person says this is where i want it to be, and not every official but a number of officials are following along, eithe

. >> arizona's democratic senator kyrsten sinema said today she does not support the other infrastructure bill. how much does that complicate things? >> well, it certainly had a lot of people up here nervous on the democratic side of things when day saw sinema come out and make such a bold statement, particularly on such an important day. and it could complicate things. now, sinema did make it clear that she is going to vote for the budget resolution, which is the framework to begin the negotiations around that budget package. but that, she's uncomfortable with that price tag of $3.5 trillion. and those house progressives that we talked about, before, reacted strongly to sinema making that statement. saying that they are much more concerned about that reconciliation package and, perhaps, they won't vote for the bipartisan deal, as a result. but everybody up here believes that this is just part of the long-term negotiating process. that this is kyrsten sinema and joe manchin just finding a way to get what they want in this package. and ultimately, when push comes to shove, they will vote f

bump along those lines today because kyrsten sinema, one of the key negotiators, the democrat from arizona in the bipartisan package, said that she's not yet on board with that big $3.5 trillion package. now, even though these are two separate pieces of legislation, both white house, chuck schumer, and nancy pelosi have said that they're moving along dual tracks, meaning you can't have one without the other. sinema said she's open to the budget resolution passing, which means she appears willing to negotiate. but even though they're going to get a big victory here, it is a sign that is till a long road to go before both things are passed through the congress, and then eventually making it to president biden's desk. >> let's go to phil in pennsylvania. phil, how does president biden feel about this deal? >> well, jake, the president told reporters earlier today he was confident in the deal. you can't really overstate how much the president wanted this deal for a number of different reasons. but perhaps most primarily because of the investment in physical infrastructure, hundreds of billions