the degree to which there are a few courageous republicans of her november 3rd in arizona, in georgia -- they're all being attacked, and getting very little support from other republicans around the country. so the problem with -- some of the republicans, i don't know how many i believe the big lie, but others are ready to sign up to. it >> robert how will -- republicans casually believe that there is some voter fraud in the country that needs to be dealt with but the don't share the view that joe biden didn't win the election. what's a way to make this a more partisan left hurt? because at the state level, and this is getting out of control. >> i think you're going to have to see this happen really at the dnc level, at the political level. i think you saw this happen earlier in the week with vice president harris. we announcing a renewed effort at a democratic national committee to take this on as an issue, to think about how to eventually register more voters, how to fight voter suppression, how to get back into the court system. i think the challenge that you heard from bill and ot

. >> recount continues in arizona, remarkable thing. pennsylvania trying to do something similar. texas legislature looking at everything that worked in last election and deciding to make it illegal. there are state leaders, civil rights leaders went to the white house to plead with the president and vice president for leadership on the federal level. appears on tuesday in philadelphia joe biden is going to say something about voting rights in america. what can he say, what can he do? >> he can do is say things. essentially all the power he has. that's exactly what those civil rights leaders said to him yesterday. wanted to hear him use his bully pulpit more than he has. tasked vice president kamala harris -- she asked to lead on voting rights, but when it comes to legislation, it's over and dead. that's what happened with not allowing debate, republican blocking debate on the for the people act, democracy reform. john lewis advancement act hasn't even really been written in the house or senate. so there's not a lot of legislative push. civil rights leaders spoke with him for hour

states are gaining momentum following the recent supreme court ruling that upheld new election laws in arizona and the success of senate republicans in blocking federal voting rights legislation. now leaders of national civil rights groups are stepping up pressure on the white house. late today, they met president biden and vice president harris in a private session to lay out what they plan to do to safeguard the right to vote. >> democracy is under vigorous, vicious, and sinister attack, beginning with the events of january 6th at the capitol and cascading like a tsunami through state legislatures across the nation. >> we are going to build a movement around this country to resist that, what is clearly a move to try to disenfranchise people of color from voting, the methodical way this has been laid out in the state legislatures and at their state legislation is geared toward robbing us of the vote. the movement from the ground up is starting to be the only way that we can preserve our right to vote. we informed them that this is going to come not from the white house down, but from our hous

just last week, it was a legal challenge to arizona voting restrictions. the supreme court seemed to credit the idea that there was a true threat of voter fraud that needed to be addressed by the states and that could take steps through more restrictive laws to address claims of voter fraud. even at the highest echelons of the courts, we are seeing this big lie is in fact becoming embedded as a big fact. that's fueling more and more legislation, and more restrictive legislation that will make it harder for voters to go to the polls and vote. >> jonathan, let's talk about border rights and the civil rights group that met with the president today and the vice president. they're making it clear, you heard reverend al say they are starting a movement from the ground up to stop the erosion of voting rights. p to stop the erosio of voting rights what impact does not have? the fact a civil rights leaders, most of whom are allied with the white house in the first place, what difference does it make that they went there and sat with the president and the vice presi

that's doug ducey, republican governor of arizona. is his concern warranted, and are you concerned about some confusion? people thought their children were going to go to school without masks, people have been indoors without masks on. >> i think the governor's interpretation is completely misguided and off base. there's no one rule that says there's one strategy to deal with this. and especially since we have this incredible surge due to the delta variant, the delta mutation, all bets are off, and people have to understand that we have to pull out all the armaments in our shiver -- shiver? in our back back to make sure we have done everything possible. the vaccination agenda is extremely critical. that must happen. one of the reasons we're getting surges is there are so many pockets in the united states that people are so undervaccinated that they were susceptible to getting sick with the delta variant. that is "a." and "b" is that, yes, we do have to wear masks indoors, even those people who have been vaccinated when the original ru

that's done doocy, republican governor of arizona. is this concern warranted, and are you concerned about some confusion people thought their kids will go back to school, and not mask? people who have been vaccinated who have been going indoors without their masks on? >> yeah, chris, the governments interpretation i think is completely misguided enough base. there is no rule that says it is only one strategy to deal with a pandemic like this, and especially since we had this incredible surge due to the delta variant, the delta mutation. all bets are off. people have to understand that we have to plant all the ornaments in our shiver -- shiver -- in our backpack to make sure we have done everything possible. the vaccination agenda is critical, that must happen. one of the reason we get these surges is there are so many pockets in the united states where people are so under vaccinated, that they are susceptible to getting sick with the delta variant. that is one, and to, we have to wear masks indoors, even those people have been vaccina

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reported on this show, the supreme court has upheld some of the laws already, especially the ones in arizona. so these organizations want to see more action, though they say the speech was powerful and important and was needed. >> sam stein, what she just described sounds like something less than a fair fight. one team is way out ahead, the other seemingly playing catch up, in the real world, what's the real chance of some sort of carve out of the filibuster rules for voting rights legislation? >> well, it's, it's not great. the same calculus that has befuddled the white houses and democrats on filibuster rules exists there. not only does biden oppose it, there's not 50 senate democrats who support it either. there's a bit of momentum coming behind this specific idea of a carve out for voting rights laws or election laws. we saw james clyburn a prominent house democrat, in leadership, obviously, a very important endorser of joe biden in the campaign tell our colleague, calling on biden to endorse the path forward. i would not dismiss the influence that clyburn has on the process. that he bei

this decision upholding voting restrictions in arizona. came down along party lines and i know it's considered gross and undignified to use the term party lines when we talk about the supreme court. and everybody knows the score on the court. here is kagan from her dissent. what is tragic here is the court has rewritten in order to weak an statute that stands as a monument to america's greatness. what, neil, did they do to the voting rights act? we look at the supreme court as the ultimate remedy to issue where rights are concerned. >> may profoundly under mined the voting rights act. it was around from 1965, before i was born. one was section five, and said if you're a state that discriminates, and you are trying to change your voting rules, you have to get it cleared by a court in washington, d.c., or the justice department. the court upheld that section of the voting rights action only a few years later to reverse course and strike it down. that was the first big strike on the voting act. today unfortunately is the second. they reached

but in texas, like in arizona, like in michigan, like in pennsylvania, like in georgia, bad things didn't happen, more people just voted. >> well, can we be really here? the real predicate about this is to stop people who quite frankly look like me from exercising their political power. and the truth of the matter is you're gonna hear more calls about a stolen election as a country over the next decade and a half who's closer to majority minority. because those playing the zero-sum racial game and those playing the tribalism game think that every political stride that people who look like me make in this country is them losing out. so until we have that real conversation about how we're all one america, you don't lose if in fact a black man is elected president. your tribe isn't losing. we're gonna have real problems. i only see this accelerating as we come closer to that moment in this country where we begin to go towards a majority, minority country and politically those trying to stop minorities and progressives from exercising their political power. >> i hope you're wrong, cornell. th

so the naacp in arizona want to see more action. though they say the speech was powerful and was important, it was needed. >> sam stein, what's yamiche just describe sounds less than a fair fight. one team is way out ahead, the other seemingly perpetually playing catch-up. and the real world what is the chance of some sort of carved out of the filibuster rules for voting rights legislation? >> well, it's not great. the same calculus that befuddled the white house on filibuster reform in general exists there which is not only biden opposing it but there aren't 50 senate democrats who supported either. now i will say there's a bit of momentum coming behind this specific i the on voting rights laws are election laws. we sought james clyburn, a house democrat very important endorsement of joe biden and the campaign tell our own colleague lauren lopez calling on biden to essentially endorse this. clyburn has -- but that being said, you've got to convince skeptical house democrats in the senate to embrace and indoors if you want to get to

. >> arizona state representative sinema gets tonight's last word. maybe senator sinema might listen to her. >>> the 11th hour with brian williams starts right now. >> and good evening once again. day 162 of the biden administration. and nbc news reporting tonight the manhattan d.a.'s office and the new york attorney general's office together have obtained indictments against the trump organization and its long-time cfo allen weisselberg. as expected, the charges are expected to be tax-related and expected to be unsealed in court tomorrow in man hat opinion "the washington post" was the first to report the news tonight. the paper adds this -- weisselberg is expected the surrender thursday morning at the office of manhattan d.a. cyrus vance. he is expected to be arraigned later in the day in front of a state court judge. the trump organization will be arraigned represented by one of its attorneys. weisselberg has been under pressure to cooperate with prosecutors and flip on one donald trump. the investigations continue. trump was occupied with his tri

the false hoods that he won arizona, the falsehoods that there was fraud in fulton county, georgia. in trump's mind it is so real. and he would tell it to us with real animated cadence. he thought people would finally figure it out. he kept saying, i'm trying to get the word out here about the fraud that simply doesn't exist. what you had at mar-a-lago, when we were there at the end of march, is a king of republican politics sort of in his briggadoon that doesn't stack up to the facts. and by the way, he's also filled with grievance. he brought up people like bill barr, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, he even instroked late senator john mccain. all people that he made fun of, he blamed them for things that had gone wrong and he also blamed mike pence. his loyal vice president for not doing what trump considered to be the courageous thing on january 6th by trying to overturn the results. the former president still bitter about that. >> carol, back to the subject of the military, and donald trump, and had this been a full on third world style coup, it is plausible that he would have wante

thank you for staying up late with me tonight and i so this was a week ago today, in phoenix, arizona. thursday last week, it was

the falsehoods that he won arizona. the falsehoods that there was fraud in fulton county georgia but in trump's mind it was so real and he would tell it to us with a sort of animated cadence. he thought people were gonna finally figure out, he said i'm trying to get the word out here about the election fraud that simply doesn't exist. so what you have at mar-a-lago or what you have on the day that we were there at the end of march is the king of republican politics sort of in his break of doom with an imagined reality all around him that just doesn't stack up to the facts or anything else. and by the way, he's also field with grievance. he brought up again and again people like bill barr and mitch mcconnell and paul ryan, the former speaker of the house, he even invoked the late senator john mccain. oh people he made fun of and said we're unintelligent. >> he blamed them for things that had gone wrong and he also blames mike pence, his loyal vice president for not doing what trump considered to be the courageous thing o