they will let the nra id -- if you have a national rifle association card, they will say that's ok, but not your student id. all the scrap about how we have to have this or that is just krapp. it is more so experience -- is just crap, it is all smokescreen's. host: let's let jason snead respond. guest: my grip looks at widespread allegation of fraud, which led to the idea that there was no fraud. so my belief in applying voter id laws and improving election operations in other ways has nothing to do with the "big lie this is entirely about ensuring that we have elections that we can trust, and showing voters that there is transparency, that there is accountability, and that the results are accurate. that is really the way we are going to drive up participation in our democracy. as to the point about why certain id's are not six consider why we are asked -- consider why we are asking for an id. depending on the student id, not everyone may solve that problem, especially when they are expired. that is why you see certain ids included in these laws. as long as the state will issue a free s