social distancing measures within the country could be lifted by the end of june and melbourne but who runs the festivals says the ideal situation would be to go about normal business these festivals are already sold out and are set to take place at the end of august so for more on all of this and some other news out of the music business let's bring in a veteran in the industry steve stewart is the c.e.o. of vest and a former manager for the stone temple pilots steve thank you so much for join. and ing us i want to start with the impact the pandemic has had on live events and specifically music how bad has it been for the industry because when we tend to look at it we look at musicians and we tend to look at the biggest one so we say well taylor swift the millionaire who cares if she can't do it to a concert for a year but there's a whole support structure at play here correct steve there is and it's big money when you're talking about artistic and earn and $1000000.00 so that pales the record sales the streaming part of it pales compared about life artists to the artist to her modest