unfrank james. i really love that piece. evan once you get a starter, could you tell us just a quick summary about matthew's piece and and then we can talk a little bit again how that piece. fits within the themes of your book okay. yes. so hobart should i'm sorry. i haven't studied firmly. i got the book right here. it is it's easy tile the trials are frank james gorilla veteranhood and and the double edge of or time notoriety. alright other way of okay, so hobart has you know thought about gorillas for some time and it published several articles and sort of a fascinating book a couple years ago with georgia university of georgia, press i mean how to gorillas basically become gunslingers in the old west which is worth a look if you're interested in the subject and so here he takes up frank james and you know, one of the points that he makes is well. a lot of veterans can be mobilize right northern veterans you go home. southern veterans is a little more complicated. but if you're regular army, you know a lot of those people
