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. >> joining me now is jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the pentagon and cia. it seems like this is a delicate balancing act. sanctions but saying out loud he wants to try to deescalate. do you think this is the right way to handle it? it doesn't seem like the response from moscow necessarily fits with what the president says he is trying to achieve. >> i do think the president is approaching this appropriately. every time you have diplomacy with an adversary -- ronald reagan had to deal with the soviet union. you want to engage. you want to clearly demarch -- demarcate the lines. we are holding you responsible for the massive hack, your election interference which happened not just in 2016 but also 2020 according to our intelligence community leadership. in that way, it's a pitch. it's a deterrent against russia. there's a more dangerous situation in crimea. the nations of the g7 issued a strong statement warning moscow against furthering escalating. >> i'm glad you brought that up. i was going to ask you about that next. there has been some criticism or some

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and jeremy if you could speak to that for a brief while. the teaching to the test concept, doesn't that reaffirm schooling is not education? >> you know, at clt we say we don't necessarily like the reality that tests drive, dictate curriculum, what happens in the classroom but it is reality. and as long as it is a reality, he want to put students in front of things that are worthy of their time and attention. one of my dear friends, dr. annika fratford is a professor at a university and her people thought to have access to this tradition and it breaks her heart that some mainstream educators wanted to take that away again. i think this is a crucial conversation and this is the right time to be having it. >> jeremy tate, thank you. he is founder and chief executive officer of the classic learning test, professor eddie glaude and mike barnicle and eugene robinson. >> and we're very excited. speaking of anet, she has a book coming out and we're going to have here on juneteenth so we'll have her on in may. >> still ahead, did congresswoman maxi

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let me read you some of jeremy peters' great reporting on mr. riggleman. the undoing of mr. riggleman and now his unlikely crusade is revealing about a dimension of conservative politics today. the fight against radicalism within the gop is a deeply lonely one, waged mostly by republicans like him who are no longer in office and by the small handful of elected officials who have decided that they are willing to speak up, even if it means that they too could be headed for an early retirement. quote, i've been telling people, you don't understand. this is getting worse, not better, mr. riggleman said. sitting on a stool at his family bar one recent afternoon. people are angry, and they're angry at the truth tellers. this feels like something that you have been trying to, i think, bring to us and report to us in your coverage of how 12 republicans could vote against giving medals for the capitol police officers, some of them paid with their lives, and again on friday, this is reporting that you have tried to articulate, and i thought of you when i read this, you know, just how

it must be addressed and willie geist and i can confirm it was indeed jeremy bentham -- >> yeah. >> an entry reformer, social justice warrior and, of course, the founder of modern unitarianism. so, yes, john, you did get that historical artifact again -- >> extra credit for john today. >> yes, give him -- he gets a point. >> i want to go to rev as we wrap things up for this block here, for this important conversation about something jon meacham said. if it wasn't for those cameras, if it wasn't for is that cell phone. you think about things like this happened and it wasn't seen. those debates we had over body cams, which i can't believe we debated that, you know, accountability is needed. and being seen and having these recordings is vital from all angles. and it helps provide accountability. and i'm just wondering also, rev, if there is room in this conversation as we close it for this block, to say that it also shows there are a lot of good cops out there. >> i think that it shows that there are good cops and i think they will be exemplified by the policemen that testified at the cha

last week, we had jeremy tate on the show. this morning his op-ed partner is on. also with us, the president of howard university, wayne frederick, princeton university's eddie glaude is with us as well. good to have you with us this morning. reading more from cornell's piece, if i could, to end this spiritual catastrophe, we must restore true education, mobilizing all of the intellectual and moral resources we can to create human beings of courage and vision and civic virtue. this classical approach is united to the black experience. it recognizes that the end and aim of education is really the anthem of black people which is to lift every voice. that means to find your voice, not an echo or an imitation of others. but you can't find your voice without being grounded in tradition, grounded in legacies, grounded in heritages, engaging with the classics and with our civilizational heritage is the means to finding our true voice. it's how we become our full selves, spiritually free and morally great. >> cornell, it's always great to have you here. i'm sorry we blind