no it's good news because the army is the bad guy because intel is covering their butts? what? that was the theory from congressman louis gohmert on november 12th. the military times actually did a great time documenting how this particular trump world conspiracy theory continue to evolved over the course of the next couple of weeks in november so that by december it wasn't just the army going into sees the server from this company instead the server was being guarded at a cia facility, the cia was protecting it and there was a fire fight and on the other side of the firefight was the u.s. military intelligence battalion working for trump lawyers, sydney powell, they were the commanding officer, maybe, and that battalion, that 350 military battalion, in this conspiracy theory was commanded by sydney powell and they went to germany and physically fought it out a shooting war with the cia aide to get the service that would reveal all about how the election was stolen. and somehow in the continued evolution of the story, in november of 2020, the u.s. army soldiers, under the comma

no, that's bad news because the army is bad here because the intel is covering their butts. what? that's the theory from congressman louie gohmert on november 12th. the military times, actually, did a great job telling how this conspiracy theory evolved in the month of november, so by december it wasn't just the army going in to seize the server from this company. instead the server was being guarded at the cia facility, the cia was protecting it, and there was a firefight. on the other side of the firefight, there was a battalion working for sidney powell. she was like their commanding officer, maybe. that 305th military intelligence battalion, which is a real thing, went to germany with sidney powell and fought it out, a shooting wall, and that would reveal all how the election was stolen. and somehow through it all, the u.s. army soldiers, under the command of trump lawyer sidney powell, they were somehow elevated to special operations forces. and then the final -- as far as i can tell, the final iteration of it is that in this firefight where it was sidney powell's army comman

president biden says there's no longer a military -- -- as we face all around the globe in an intel gen can china top of mind. joining our conversation former chief of staff at the cia and department of defense, jeremy bash. i think of you in the old roles, and i think about something i said to a current white house official, you know, people don't understand that most presidents are choosing between bad and worse. i wonder just, first, i spoke to a former senior intelligence official who was involved in the first strike on afghanistan after the september 11th attacks, who acknowledged that the military probably needs this, that they're exhausted. even though it's a narrow mission, ending it by september 11th might be a very good thing. where do you come down? >> nicolle, i think this was clearly the right decision. this was a historic decision. we've been at this 20 years, america's longest war. about a decade ago, we delivered critical blows to al qaeda. it was about ten years ago to almost this week when the special operations forces with practices their raid which they executed flaw

and slowly but surely, as you were laying out, whether it was mueller, the intel community today, we have chipped away -- you know, at what was really going on there, and we learned a little more. there's still a lot that we don't know. >> i'm stuck by the way they described why they didn't know what konstantin kilimnik had done with that data. they said basically, we don't know what his communications are, they implied that he was using communication security and implying that he was using encrypted channels,, and so therefore, it was an knowable what he had done with the information. the u.s. government now can assert that they know what konstantin kilimnik did with that information, does that mean that they have developed new information, or that some part of the biden administration is willing to disclose this information, when under the previous president, even though they knew it, they weren't willing to share it even with the intelligence community? how new is this? what kind of capability it does it reflect? >> i think you're hitting on the most important question here. the t

and slowly but surely, as you were laying out, whether it was mueller or the senate intel committee or today, we have chipped away at what was really going on there and learned little and little more. there's still a lot we don't know. >> i'm struck by the way the senate intelligence committee nt described why they didn't know what kilimnick had done with that data.im they said basically, listen, we don't know what his communications are, they implied he was using communications d n' security, implying, i think, that he was using encrypted , channels and so therefore it was unknowable what he had done with the information. if the u.s. government now is sort of confidently and uncomplicatedly asserting that they know what kilimnick did with that information, does that mean they've developed new information or that some part of the biden administration is willing to disclose this information when under the previous president, even though they knew this, they weren't willing to share it even with the senate intelligence committee? how new is this, how much of a new capability does this re

strategy during the 2016 election, a question that had been left unanswered by both robert mueller and the intel committee in their report. that established fort first time the private meetings and communications between trump campaign officials, manafort and his deputy rick gates and kilimnik were essentially a pipeline right into the kremlin while it was trying to meddle in our election back in 2016. efforts to meddle in the 2020 election was revealed in the january 6 insurrection. the capitol hill police had just finished the most extensive report top to bottom to date about the response to the riot and those who carried it out. >> they came prepared and planned to do what they were going to do. there was information that was provided to us that it was decided that these heavier munitions, specifically sting balls, 40-millimeter, were not to be utilized based on the information we received that they could potentially cause life-altering injury or death. personally, i cannot see how one could classify it as a peaceful demonstration. >> let's bring in our lead-off guests on thursday evening, th

need to know, now the cia is suggesting the original acquisition may not be true at all, saying in intel lingo, the intelligence supporting the account has left officials with low to moderate confidence it was true and it was based on detainee sources. this is a major shift, and a reminder about the limits of largely anonymous government intelligence sources. and we wanted to correct and update the times' account with the latest information for you tonight. >> up ahead, a first on mars. a video we're about to see, pretty amazing. [sfx: psst psst] allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪♪ finding new routes to reach your customers vand new ways for themg to find yto reach youfessional. is what business is all about it's what the united states postal service has always been about so as your bu

jeremy bash former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon, former chief counsel to the house intel committee. and we're happy to welcome to the broadcast, a veteran attorney c.k., hofeller she's this eo of this ekg off where firm in inland, and dealing with both wrongful death cases and civil rights litigation. she is counseled jesse jackson, the rainbow push coloration, also happens to be president of the national bar association, the nation's oldest network of predominantly black judges, and attorneys. counselor indeed, by way of welcoming you, i'd like to begin with you tonight. let's talk about this charge, against the now former police officer, who we saw on video, firing the shot that killed dante right. second degree manslaughter, in accordance to the law man to, is it the right charge in your view? >> first of all it's great to be here tonight brian this is the right charge. i would have to say that given what we saw, and we have to trust her eyes, i think there should have been a greater charge, but because of how the events unfolded, i believe that the district and journe

back with us tonight is daniel goldman, he also served as general counsel for the house intel committee during that first trump impeachment. counselor, a very basic question to start with. what does it mean that a federal judge approved and allowed a raid, by the feds, on rudy giuliani whose portrait still hangs at the southern district of new york because he ran the office? >> well, brian, there is a technical answer and there's a more figurative answer. the technical answer is that a judge found that there is probable cause to believe that there is evidence of a crime in his apartment and in his office. but the figurative answer as you just mentioned, it's much more significant. this is not only the former u.s. attorney of that office, but it was also the president's former lawyer. and the most prolific proponents of the bogus investigations that led to donald trump's first impeachment. what we're really seeing is this is the flip side of the coin of giuliani's activities in ukraine. we know from the impeachment that he was trying to dig up dirt on donald trump's potential and eventua

post," jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon, former chief counsel to the house intel committee. and we're happy to welcome c.k. hoffler. she's ce oh of the c.k. hoffler firm in atlanta. she has counseled jesse jackson, also happens to be president of the national bar association, the nation's oldest network of predominantly black judges and attorneys, and counselor, indeed, i'd like to begin with you tonight. let's talk about this charge against the now former police officer who we saw on video firing the shot that killed daunte wright. second-degree manslaughter in the parlance of the law, man 2. is the right charge in your view? >> first of all, great to be here tonight, brian. is it the right charge? i would have to say that given what we saw -- and we have to trust our eyes -- i think there should have been a greater charge, but because of how the events unfolded, i believe that the district attorney felt that man 2 was probably the best that they could do given the circumstances. i would have hoped for a stronger charge, a higher charge because i thought that her

. >>> coming up, how russian intel agencies got ahold of crucial polling data and used it to interfere in u.s. presidential elections. . presidential elections. ♪♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo >>> new revelations on how the russian government reportedly interviewed in the 2016 u.s. election. last week the u.s. treasury department released a report accusing konstantin kilimnik of passing internal campaign strategy and polling data to russian intelligence. here to break this down for us is "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst peter baker. peter, this report shows a direct links to russian intelligence agencies interfering in the 2016 election to benefit donald trump. >> this is a very important development. it adds one more link to the chain we knew b

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intel report says approved an operation to capture and kill journalist jamal khashoggi. >> the king firmly denied any knowledge of it. the denial was very strong. it wasn't like there was a question in his mind. the denial was very, very strong. the denial was not only a denial. it was a very firm denial. >> roy moore, gaetz, you know, mohammed bin salman, putin, they aw denied. case closed. with the latest on the gaetz saga i'm joined by oshld senltd nell columnist gabe maxwell. i wonder how this all plays in florida where gaetz and his father are extremely known entities. >> yeah, they are. back in florida don gaetz is pretty respected. matt gaetz is known as baby gaetz when he started to develop a career thanks largely to his father. but most of it is par for the course. in fact, one of the things that i have been writing about lately is there's sort of this feigned shock and awe of pearl clutching among particularly republicans who seem to act like they're surprised by this stuff with matt gaetz. i don't know anything about the current accusations. they still have yet to play out. but

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the treasury department went further than what the mueller report did and what a bipartisan senate intel committee report did a couple of years ago when it comes to the actions. of course, this question of collusion. now we saw in these new sanctions that came out from the biden white house that essentially konstantin kilimnik, who was an ally who worked with paul manafort, he is a ukrainian russian, and he has been linked to russian intelligence and it's the treasury department saying explicitly that this was because they believe he gave via paul manafort the russians information about campaign and polling strategies. this is the first time. now we are able to report that u.s. officials essentially are citing new evidence and intelligence that brought them to this conclusion. that's why they were able to go further than what they had said in prior reports. what is interesting here also is that we don't know whether this intelligence was developed under the trump administration and not revealed or under biden administration. the treasury department declined to comment on that. this is no

we know that the domestic violence extremism threat intel chiefs and fbi director testified to in the last few weeks, the people that threaten us believe in the big lie. not everyone that believes the big lie threatens us, but a big chunk of people that represent domestic violence extremist threats believe the big lie. they're choosing donald trump. donald trump didn't choose any of them. you could take or leave any of them. this affirmative selection of him to be their leader, they have to boost him up. he doesn't have a platform on which to communicate. they're propping him up to continue to lead them. why go out of their way to perpetuate that dysfunctional relationship that now distributes to a domestic violence extremism threat in the country? >> because where do you go? where else during at this point? for normal people, yeah, you would go somewhere else, you would back away from it. kevin mccarthy has been given opportunity after opportunity to set a different course, to raise a different narrative. but the reality, he wants to be speaker of the house, this is the path to take

is it different now that the intel chiefs testified to the tragic new reality that the gravest threats to the country are domestic violent extremists and currently under the threat warning we know about radicalized by the big lie still repeated by donald trump i believe six times since last week and some covid restrictions where he was also a leading and rater with tweets of liberate michigan and liberate virginia? >> it does affect the work of our committee. i think all of the domestic agencies with a portfolio with domestic trifl have to prioritize it like fbi and dhs. we have responsibility of joe seeing the intelligence component of that and doing an investigation last year of intelligence at dhs where one was alleging that instructions were being given essentially to downplay the seriousness of the domestic terror committed by white nationalists and hype the threat of antifa and saw that from bill barr and others in the leadership of the last administration. but we just had a hearing on this subject. and i can tell you one of the ongoing challenges is a lot of the republican membe

they've fallen for bad intel. they've been duped. and some of that, the second irony, is coming from the enemy. by that, i mean, literally, foreign intelligence services are part of this propaganda and falsehood machine and the folks who protect us against those enemies are falling for that. that propaganda. they've taken an oath to protect us against enemies, foreign and domestic, and we've got domestic threats now, people who commit violence against our democracy, and they can't see that. why is that? they've been cultivated and manipulated by former president trump himself. you'll remember navy chief gallagher of the navy s.e.a.l.s special forces where he was accused by his own team of essentially war crimes and president trump did what? exonerate him. come to his defense. we saw, of course, hundreds of cops for trump rallies across the united states. this was not happenstance. this was a careful, cultivation of what trump calls the tough guys. you'll remember him publicly stating, i've got the tough guys with me. they were cultiv

. >> as chairman of the house intel committee, you're not concerned about u.s. national security as a result of the united states leaving afghanistan? ? >> i am concerned about it but at the same time there are larger threats in other parts of the world. i wouldn't recommend we occupy other regions and stay there for 10 or 20 years. i think we have to adjust to the circumstances that are present today. while we're mindful of the risk, and i'm also deeply concerned with the risk to the afghan people who have worked with us. afghan girls and women who, once again, are subjugated by the taliban. there is a concern there's a difficult decision but it's a right one. >> and with that, i'll leave it there. thank you very much for coming back to the sunday show. >> thank you. >>> coming up, we speak to america's doctor. dr. anthony fauci joins me next. keep it here. . anthony fauci jo. keep it here uters. we didn't stop at computers. we didn't stop at storage or cloud. we kept going. working with our customers to enable the kind of technology that can guide an astronaut

i mean, to listen to the intel chiefs and to see christopher wray have someone to corroborate what he's now been saying publicly since, i think, august about the largest threat being domestic terrorism and in that bucket, i think, was the word he used, white supremacist aligned domestic terrorists, i wonder if you can sort of pull that thread a little harder on what she's saying, that to counter extremist threat with one of the two major political parties sort of shrugging their shoulders is an added challenge. >> yeah. i mean, we saw that challenge today when the intelligence chiefs appeared before the house intelligence committee. there, the republicans were asking a lot of questions of wray about antifa, and then they started raising some sharp questions about the dni, the director of national intelligence's work on the report on domestic violent extremismism. out of context, they're legitimate questions. should the cia spy on americans? we can all agree that the cia shouldn't do that but it was making it very difficult about should the dni look at this really growing threat? and you

i don't have access to the intel anymore, though peter baker and his colleagues at "the new york times" are pretty good. i think it's important that the report highlights also nontraditional threats. in my judgment, the long-term principle threat to our national security is global warming and climate change, specifically the effects of severe weather events on ageing infrastructure and the ability to up end global populations. in the short end, the principle threat to our national security is covid-19 and the biden administration is focussed keenly on that right now. in the mid term, the principle threat to our national security in my judgment is what you were just talking about, the events of january 6th represent a significant, domestic-based national security threat to our country. i encourage everybody to look at the study that just came out of the university of chicago, professor robert pape does analysis of the demographics of the group that attacked the capitol on january 6th. it's better educated and comes from blue states as well as red states. the fear of displacement, basele

the then president trump's intel community said as much at the time, and one was fired because he said that. so i think that's the i think that they're going to keep saying, you know, this is ant solution looking for a problem, as some people have put it, because republicans are talking and have been wanting to change the way that people in this country are able to vote spop and 2020 provided exactly what they needed. so what you'll keep hearing is this idea around election security. it sounds really good. the problem is and what will continue to be that we have always had secure elections. we haven't had massive voter fraud in this country and republicans aren't going to be able to divorce the two. the problem they have with democrats or people who want to expand voting is that it doesn't really matter if they are running the state legislatures, if they have governorships. they're going to be able to pass these laws and sign them into legislation. and that's why you have in congress, democrats wanting to pass hr-1, which is this overhauling of democracy bill. but more importantly and

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