lois lerner says i can't do anything right now. she couldn't fix it before the 2010 midterm election. what she could do is start a project to deal with in the future and that's exactly what she did. again, weeks before the midterm election, lerner tells her colleagues let's do a c-4 project next year. she also says we need to be cautious so it is in a per se political project. in fact, the chairman put this e-mail up at our last hearing. per se political project means code for a political project, we have to make it look like it's not a political project. in early 2011, lerner orders a multitiered review of c-4 applications. you know what that is? code for we are going to delay, harass them and make it difficult. that is part of the c-4 project. and make no mistake, she put washington in charge. this e-mail is also won the chairman put up that i left needing where lois lerner 72011, tea party matter very dangerous should not have these cases. this is the cincinnati doing this is completely false. she ordered them to not have these

>> just lois lerner's alone? >> just lois lerner. >> it would take a while. >> how long? minutes? >> there are millions of e-mails -- i don't know. i don't think it would be minutes. >> that's one of the brilliance of the e-mail system. you go in and check the sent box and the inbox and you suddenly have all the e-mails. correct? >> right. they get taken off and stored in servers and you have 90,000 employees. >> i'm asking to find one. they type in her e-mail address. >> we could find and we are, in fact, searching -- we can find lois lerner's e-mails. >> how long would that take? >> i have no idea how long. >> would it take a day? >> as i said, i have no idea. >> well, i just don't understand. you have a duly issued subpoena. if you were in the private sector and somebody was issued a subpoena and you didn't comply with it, what would happen to you? >> for this subpoena, the court would actually rule that it is far too -- >> oh, so you're going to make the determination? >> you asked the question. let me answer the question. in a court of law, if you had provided that subpoena,

why isn't the media interested in the lois lerner? >> well, i think as long as she continues to plead the fifth. they don't really see new news being out there. i think people have bought in a little bit to the whole idea there is a phony scandal. if it's a phony scandal why won't she testify? the question is why republicans might want to consider giving her immunity so that they can get the full story out there. if they're not getting anything right now they might want to consider that. >> what happened yesterday is you had congressman issa very frustrated and upset that he actually went on "fox news sunday" and broke some news. she would not plead the fifth she would answer questions and ended up pleading the fifth anyway. frustrated. whether or not he had the right to do that that distracted things and turned congressman cummings into a victim and it would have been much better off to let him spout off, whatever. he could have made himself look like a fool. >> i was stunned with the emails they did present her with. one was dated o

>> just lois lerner's alone? >> just lois lerner. >> it would take a while. >> how long? minutes? >> there are millions of e-mails -- i don't know. i don't think it would be minutes. >> that's one of the brilliance of the e-mail system. you go in and check the sent box and the inbox and you suddenly have all the e-mails. correct? >> right. they get taken off and stored in servers and you have 90,000 employees. >> i'm asking to find one. they type in her e-mail address. >> we could find and we are, in fact, searching -- we can find lois lerner's e-mails. >> how long would that take? >> i have no idea how long. >> would it take a day? >> as i said, i have no idea. >> well, i just don't understand. you have a duly issued subpoena. if you were in the private sector and somebody was issued a subpoena and you didn't comply with it, what would happen to you? >> for this subpoena, the court would actually rule that it is far too -- >> oh, so you're going to make the determination? >> you asked the question. let me answer the question. in a court of law, if you had provided that subpoena,

>> of lois lerner e-mails? >> as i said in january we will continue because we party started the process and its import to get the e-mails in the areas i talked about them will find out about january and will continue to work as the order and priority and what is noted, let you know how many e-mails there are in the process will be. are delighted to do that. >> i don't buy that personally. i've heard from a number people talk about constituents being concerned and i assume and i believe those are accurate representations. whether they represent the entire public to me is that important. every individual member in every organization in the country deserves to feel comfortable to be treated fairly by the irs. my view is whether it be part of it is not the question. everyone feels confident comfortable dealing with the irs. >> when i go home as other members have stated including mr. lynch, what i hear is there is a deficit of trust. people feel they are being targeted not only for the tax-exempt organization, but

you saw lois lerner. she walked in this morning. there was hope she would answer the questions that exist out there, like what did she know and when did she know it. what do you read, what do you pray for? the president was initially very uncomfortable what he learned that happened at the irs and said he wanted to get to the bottom of this. e lielijah cummings is speaking. up know we are up against a break. >> we interviewed 38irs employees. hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from irs have been reviewed. $14 million plus and counting in man hours have bee been expended with regard to this investigation into the irs, and still there has not been any evidence whatsoever that there was political motivation in regard to this targeting. in regard to these efforts. martha: i'm trying to give equal time to both of these gentlemen. we'll be back with more. ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you pay your guy around 2 percent to manage your money. that's not much, you think except it's 2 rcent every year. does that make a

this was going to be the opportunity that lois lerner pulled. this was an old game, they grandstanded and got headlines. by god, they succeeded. cbs did a story this morning, no mention, no discussion -- no serious discussion about her but they talked about elijah cummings. abc did nothing at all. remember i told you last week that they had done 22 seconds since june of 2013. well, that 22 second record continues. it has been 99 days since they even mentioned the irs scandal. but the best one was nbc news. i'm going to read you how they framed their news last night. in washington today, a public and startling example of the kind of behavior congress has become known for and congress has become gridlocked over. in other words, megyn, the story last night was not lois lerner. it was congress. >> right. you know, in their defense, you know, that exchange between issa and cummings was, it was a tv moment. so we as tv people we see a moment like that, we put it on tv and discuss it. so i see why they talked about that. but to ignore the substance of

editorial report" tempers flare on capitol hill as lois lerner declines to answer questions in congress. why is she talking to the justice department instead? >> vulnerable democrats breathe a sigh of relief as the administration announces yet another obamacare delay. if you thought that was the only trick up the president's sleeve, wait till you see his budget. >>> welcome to the "journal editorial report," i'm stewart varny in for paul gigot. fireworks on capitol hill as lois lerner once again refused to answer questions at a house oversight and government reform committee hearing. committee chair darrell issa says contempt charges could come as early as next week. some democrats are crying foul, with ranking member elijah cummings calling the house's investigation into the targeting of tea party groups one-sided and unamerican. >> i am a member of the congress of the united states of america. i am tired of this. we have members over here each who represent 700,000 people. you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. it is absolutely something wrong with that and there is absolutel

fireworks on capitol hill as lois lerner once again refused to answer questions at a house oversight and government reform committee hearing. darrell issa says contempt charges against lerner could come as early as next week. but some democrats ra calling foul, with elijah cummings calling it one-sided and un-american. >> i am a member of the congress of the united states of america. i am aggravated. >> well. >> we have never -- you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. there is absolutely something wrong with that. and it is absolutely un-american. >> and joining the panel this we week, down to you first. as i mentioned earlier, lois lerner refuses to answer questions from congress, but she is apparently talking to the justice department. what's with that? >> the issue is what part of the justice department is she talking to? an issue like this would normally be handle by the public integrity section of the department of justice. she's not talking to them. she's talking to the civil rights division, which is run by an obama partisan. so that makes you wonder what is the point

chairman, lois lerner won't talk to us. she'll talk to the justice department because she knows that investigation. she'll talk to the people who can put her in jail and she won't talk to us and the guy who can give us the e-mails won't give us the e-mails. here's why today's hearing is so important. the c-4 rule that's being proposed that got 149,000 comments would codify what lois lerner put in to practice. would, in fact, accomplish the goal that she set out to do in 2010. the c-4 rule, we had a hearing three weeks ago, mr. chairman. we had a hearing three weeks ago where we had aclu, tea party patriots, the motorcyclists association of america and the homeschool legal defense. all four of those groups came to that hearing and you know what they all said? this rule stinks, and should be thrown out. think about that. from the aclu, to the tea party, from homeschoolers to harley riders, everyone knows this rule stinks. everyone knows, except the irs. and now today, we get a chance, finally, to question the guy in charge of

he's calling back former irs official lois lerner who has refused to testify. a "fox news sunday" exclusive. and president obama prepares to unveil his new budget with defense cuts and no entitlement reforms. >> it makes no effort to address the drivers of our debt and deficit. >> we'll sit down with leaders of the congressional budget the committee, senator rob portman and congressman chris van hollen. plus arizona governor jan brewer vetoes a bill that would protect religious freedom over gay rights. but other states may take up similar measures. our sunday panel weighs in. and our power players of the week. they are making the please don't touch signs at museums a thing of the past. all right now on fox "fox news sunda sunday". hello again from fox news in washington. we begin with a fast moving developments in ukraine. president obama spoke with russian president putin and said the u.s. will suspend planning for the g-8 summit in sochi this summer. putin got approval from the russian parliament to send troops into ukraine. and the russians have seized contr

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and number two, forget lois lerner. this issue is much bigger than lois lerner. this is what pat touched on. this is the corruption of the irs for political purposes, when nixon mused about using the irs to go after his enemies, they had an article of impeachment in the house judiciary committee. >> maybe there was more transparency then. just to clarify, her attorney said she will testify, but she will show up this week, ask for a week delay. if she gets it, she may testify. >> but you know, she is being used as a political pawn in a bigger game, which plays into what pat and john are talking about. basically, the corruption of our entire federal government, the politicization of the investigatory process. i don't believe she's believed she's waived her fifth amendment right, whether or not, to be fair to you, jamie, she has done it. more political circus, more political theater. we're not going to learn anything from her, i don't believe, except our government is irretrievably and irrevocably broken. >> at the same time, the irs is planning bigger attacks becau

. >> once again, lois lerner takes the fifth in the irs investigation. but members of congress certainly weren't silent. >> we have members over here who represent 700,000 people. you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. >> tonight we'll have the inside story about an alleged scandal that is still chaotic. ♪ macho, macho man ♪ i've got to be a macho man >>> the russian leader putin continues to thumb his nose at the world. and now some obama supporters are using putin against republicans. we'll tell you what that's all about. and dennis miller will weigh in. >>> please welcome the wickedly talented one and only adele dazim. >> huh? also tonight what the heck was john travolta doing at the academy awards? it was beyond bizarre. we will explain it. caution. you are about to enter the no-spin zone. the "factor" begins right now. >>> hi. i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the irs investigation goes nowhere again. that is the subject of this evening's "talking points memo." to bring you up to date, there are charges the internal rev

it is not about defending lois lerner. this is about making sure that we are told the constitution of the united states of america -- uphold the constitution of america. people have rights thaupd constitution. chairman issa has that right. i have rights. every single citizen in our country has rights. that's what we have been trying to do. period. >> just one more time to reiterate, have you as a ranking member on the house oversight committee seen any evidence that the white house had any contact with lois lerner before the irs began scrutinizing 501-c groups? >> absolutely not. chairman issa knows that. he has called 38 witnesses and interviewed. every one of those witnesses has made it clear the white house was not involved in this and that there is month political motivation. >> all right. thank you, congressman cummings. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> all right. john boehner said again and again he wants immigration reform. but it is not hard to read between the lines and see that's not the case. why this is setting

. >> former irs official lois lerner may have taken the fifth. are newly released e-mails changing the game entirely? >> and new 911 calls and capturing the terrifying moments and a neighborhood forever. >> 911, where is your emergency. >> there is a fire. >> workers are screaming. >> my roof caved in and the whole house shook. it is brought down. and the ceiling is all hanging. i don't know what to do. >>> listen to the newly released 911 calls after a deadly gas explosion one week ago and included a disabled woman who needed help getting out of her home. >> calm down and take a deep breathe with me. just calm down, please. i will have them come out there. >> one person died in the explosion and several more were hurt and 50 homes were damaged. the contractor was doing electrical work and the crew struck a gas line. >> my counsel advised me i have not waived my constitutional rights under the fifth amendment and on his advice i will decloin to answer questions on the subject hearing. >> you will not tell us who will fix the problem. >> on advice

i don't understand this lois lerner spoke to the justice, here's the catch, they're a cozy operation rub by an obama do nor, but the congressional investigation is after the truth here. i don't understand why a government employee, within i worked at ibm if my manager told me about a program i botched up, gee, i have to take the fifth. you might terminate me. we are trying to get to the with the toll of this. i can't for the life of me physical out why a government employee would take the fifth amendment i think it's horrendous. >> the fbi said they won't file charges. >> they haven't interviewed the witnesses, gary is right. we all have a right to know the truth. in theory, they work for us, so we should know. what is she hiding now? she may want to know more. the whole thing becomes a scam. you can't help but there is way more to this than you actually know. >> what do you think? >> if we're after the truth, why in the world hasn't congressman issa given a position. what he wants is political fear. lois lerner despite being a government official is also an american citizen and the

lois lerner, former irs director, who's been the target of a number of hearings, continued to plead the fifth today, days after issuing an apology for the scandal. >> my counsel has advised me i have not waived my constitutional rights under the fifth amendment and on his advice, i will decline to answer any question on the subject matter of this hearing. >> so you're not going to tell us who wanted to fix the problem caused by citizens united? >> on the advice of my counsel, i exercise my fifth amendment right and decline to answer that question. >> things exploded after that. chairman issa adjourned the hearing less than 15 minutes after it started, before congressman cummings had a chance to ask a question, leading to what you're about to see. take a look. >> i'm going to -- let me say what i have to say. i've listened to you for the last 15 or 20 minutes. let me say what i have to say. i have one procedural -- >> ms. lerner, you're released. >> first, i would like to use my time to make some brief points. for the past year, the central republican accusation -- >> we're adjourned. cl

republicans demanding the irs turn over emails from lois lerner and

lois lerner should be held in contempt. and if john as he testified today and takes two or three years to get us the e-mails, he should be held in contempt too. that is just unbelievable that he would say it's going to take that long when we asked for these documents when may of last year. we subpoenaed them in august and sent a second subpoena last month. >> it's the same old thing, when the irs wants documents from the average citizen, you can't turn around and say it's going to take me several years, i'm very busy. congressman jordan, good to see you. >>> new developments in the custody fight of a teenager in massachusetts. for the first time, the judge in the case weighs in giving new details about justina pelletier is not back with her family and in a sudden reversal is not going back any time soon. plus hannity at the top of the hour. >> they didn't notice that the first thing that happened in the 20th century was an act of war against the united states in downtown new york and the pentagon. they really think war is o

we have been talking about lois lerner. i was looking at some of the e-mails and testimony of irs officials which you have access which indicates this isn't just a caning rue investigation there is meat to the allegations. what can you tell us? >> it starts with them criticizing the court decision in the state of the union. as you remember it is unusually for a president to criticize supreme court judges to their faces which is what he did. that signal to the irs and others it's open season on citizens united. there are e-mails to lois lerner where she says perhaps the fcc federal election commission will save the day. save the day fob whom. there are e-mails she got about democrats maybe losing the senate. her response was that would be worse than the republican president. there are e-mails where she said we don't need that project to appear per se political. she e-mails the coke brothers name but she says what was she talking about. >> that is exactly what this is about. she is a card carrying democrat she did not want th

the top democrat, wants to question lois lerner on all this. he contend that republicans are operating one-sided investigation here and around and around they go, david. david: rich, i don't want to overstate the importance of this memo lost in the shuffle between congressman. the president said time and time again, including to our own fox news's bill o'reilly, this was a cincinnati abrasion. a bunch of local yo calls government involved in this. they shouldn't. this memo specifically says from lois lerner, inside the beltway, not only is cincinnati not the center of this, but they should be kept out of it. this should be a washington, d.c. operation. that is very important. >> it is an important fact. one the committee would have liked to question lois lerner on. she pleads the fifth. second time in nine months. david: she may be coming back yet again. , if they put out a court order to try to get her t was fun day inside the beltway. rich edson, thank you very much, my friend. >>> meanwhile with the unemployment rate still at 6.6%, millions

lerner. >> lois lerner is an individual, we're asking for all of her e-mail. we haven't received all of lois lerner'ser, e-mails, one of the things we asked for. you could have given ways and means all of lerner's e-mails in a matter of seconds. all of lois lerner's e-mails is the highest current priority of this committee and will remain so as long as i'm chairman. >> do you think darrell issa wants all of lois lerner's emails? he can have all of her emails. >> we are providing you lois lerner's e-mails with regard to issues you raised. we're working hard to get you the lois lerner e-mails. what they want is something that will take years to produce. >> years? but what are years to darrell issa? after all, his investigation into benghazi has dragged on for some 17 months. it's led nowhere and yet it is still happening. yesterday 17 democrats on the house oversight committee sent a letter to congressman issa urging him to drop the issue. "we believe it is time to end these seemingly endless and unsubstantiated political attacks," his colleagues wrote. this let

they have to be produced. >> why not give lois lerner immunity? >> we don't know what she wants immunity from. she says she's done nothing wrong. why should we have to negotiate this? she goes out and tries to plead the fifth. she leaks the information, at the center of the information, why should we grant her immunity, there's no reason to do that. she may have done something terribly wrong. she may have done nothing wrong. come talk to congress about it. >> give me a time line, congressman. i only have a couple of seconds. give me a time line. when might this contempt happen? >> the subpoena issued february 14th, yesterday march 26th, irs commissioner confirmed to the united states congress he has no intention of complying wit. we should do that as soon as we possibly can. >> keep us posted and thanks so much for joining us on the "the real story," congressman chaffetz. >> storm chaser risking their lives to get close to tornadoes have a new shield. you don't want to miss this thing. the new shield that will help them get even closer to the eye

issa asked lois lerner a few questions. she invoked the fifth amendment and as stan brand said, he never gave her a direct order to answer, and he never then overruled her objection to that order which the supreme court has said is necessary. that's the necessary sequence in order to proceed to a contempt of congress case against such a witness. today, mr. boehner's office of general council of the house of representatives finally replied to the democrats and stan brand's insistence that chairman issa violated the necessary procedures for establishing a contempt of congress case. the republican council to the republican house not surprisingly said today that a contempt of congress case against lois lerner is still technically viable. so who's right? john boehner's council to the house of representatives or tip o'neill's former council to the house of representatives stan brand? i'm going with stan brand. >> the case is made clear. he's got to overrule her objection in an explicit way and give her the opportunity to comply o

t lois lerner heads to the hill today. >> holy guacamole. one of the favorite foods should be in short supply. wait until you hear the ridiculous reason why. >> seems everyone is getting in on the oscar selfie trend. which country star is using presidential power for his tweet. "fox and friends first starts right now. corn mu [music] >> welcome to "fox & friends". you are planning a little fun today. i am heather childers. >> i am ain'tly air heart. in just a few hours from now lois lerner is expected to face lawmakers on capitol hill over her role of targeting the tea party group. >> will she testify? doug luzader has the latest news in the committee. >> it is a mystery. we think maybe we will cee-lo which is learner make another appearance before a house committee today. no one seems to be entirely sure. certainly house members would like to hear from her today. there are a number of different options as to how this could play out. last year lois lerner who headed that division within the irs that improperly targeted tea party groups she g

they reiterated a point to me that lois lerner was ready to testify if given one more week to prepare a written statement and testimony. darrell issa didn't want to do that because a lot of folks on the democratic side, and even some aides privately, would like issa would like to have this contempt vote play out in congress. that's not going to happen this week. next week they're in recess. it could possibly happen in committee two weeks from now and then go to the house floor. john boehner put the brakes on darrell issa and his committee a little bit after this blow-up with elijah cummings. but now with elijah cummings and democrats have this legal information, which republicans right now are dismissing and calling it -- or a spokesman for issa is calling it flawed, it gives them some ammunition to go back. and if nothing else, lawrence, what this lapse will end up being is a legal question, if the house holds lois lerner in con emt to, it then goes to a federal judge and the house democrats will say is it really worth this amount of millions of taxpayer dollars to go through a parli

we bring in now the chiefover d lois lerner. so could this end questions over targeting? we bring in now the chief dock at correspondent at the washington examiner. so let's start here. i wanted to ask you, is it legally or constitutionally possible that lerner could face contempt if she continues to be silent? she has a right to invoke the fifth amendment against self incriminal nation, however, some believe that lerner waived that right. or is it more about ethics, you work for the people, now speak to the people. >> i think its he more the former. when she first arrived in congress to talk about the alleged targeting, she gave a 20 minutewhen she first arrived in congress to talk about the alleged targeting, she gave a 20 minute preamble defending herself. after that, she refused to testify. republicans assessed the situation and decided that that meant contempt of congress because she already started talking and then she decided to clam up. so i think that is the main argument here. when she returned again last week, she invoked the fifth amendment once again. again t

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lois lerner, the former irs official, pleaded the fifth again. the committee chair, darrell issa, in this oversight committee hearing, dismissed the room without letting the ranking democrat, elijah cummings, ask his questions. cummings basically said, i want to have my say. later, both lawmakers took questions from reporters. here's darrell issa. >> mr. cummings said that he had questions to ask, instead he began making an opening statement, even after the committee had been adjourned, therefore, the committee stands adjourned. yes, sir? >> mr. chairman, how much of this is a political play for the republicans in the election? >> none, not a shred of it. >> all right, then just seconds ago, literally, this is what elijah cummings had to say. >> no, i have not. what we have done, and i applaud my members of my committee, i'm very proud of them, they've come here seeking the truth. we really do -- and i've said this many times, it is very important for us to make sure that government operates properly and operates effectively and efficiently, and

lois lerner appearing before them. we understand she is again pleading the fifth. let's take a listen to a little bit of the hearing. this relates to the irs targeting scandal. take a listen. >> -- the president's political -- effectively and lied about it during the election year in the polls. he continued this on such -- if you will sit down and allow me to ask a question, i am a member of a congress of the united states of america. i am tired of it! we have never -- each who represents 700,000 people. you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. there is absolutely something wrong with that, and it's absolutely un-american. >> hear, hear. >> we had a hearing. it's adjourned. i gave you the opportunity to ask a question. >> i do have a question. >> i gave you an opportunity to -- >> chairman, what are you hiding? >> he's taking the fifth, elijah. >> he continued this on sunday when he appeared on fox news to discuss a republican staff report claiming that ms. lerner was -- >> and that's congressman elijah cummings becoming heated there at the irs hearing at th

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>> that's why they are still poo pushing to hold lois lerner in contempt of congress to bring her back in and fill in some of those gaps that we likely won't find out even if the irs does release that full sweep of documents. >> do you see chairman issa giving up at all. >> no, absolutely not. i think he is as frustrated as ever. partly because, as you mentioned, these emails and these documents are going to chairman camp. why haven't they been sent to chairman issa? i think that's created a little bit of a conflict between the two. and he will keep pursuing as much as he can to also kind of achieve a win on this issue. >> see, i see it as an end run of issa by doing it voluntarily to camp. you don't don't, byron. >> it could be. this is a congressional angle we are seeing. there is also actually a judicial angle here that if congress had all of this really great evidence, if they got all of this great evidence, what would they do with it? they would give it to the justice department to actually do any sort of prosecuting based on it now, as the department department has shown zero int

why does lois lerner plead the fifth? why doesn't she tell the truth and be transparent. i'm not finished. so holding someone in contempt of congress will make an example when you're called before congress you need to testify to tell the truth. >> this is just another witch-hunt. >> here we go. >> i wouldth rahher the republicans focus on repealing citizens united and where corporations can and not focus on progressive tea party groups. reform this system. there is a bill on the floor to do that to reform the system, get dark money out of the way. david camp and issa and angela could agree we have to jump onboard. >> i have to leave it there. time is running out on me. always good to have you both join us. >> thank you. >>> janice dean said spring will come. as we head into it, the long, snowy winter has already left behind a souvenir for us. expensive and potentially dangerous pot holes. the tire-destroying differe ini popping up on streets, damaging vehicles and saddling cities for the work and cost of repairing broken pavements. will we fix it? >> it has been a pot hol

fireworks on capitol hill as lois lerner once again refused to answer questions

that happens when people are under investigation as lois lerner is. what is shocking to me though is a long-time congress watcher, i have been up there for 20 years, is aç ranking member having hi mi c cut during a congressional hearing. i have never seen that before. it's astonishing. gives you the sense ever how badly relations are fractured on that committee. >> before we get into that, john harwood, what is the status of investigation that lois lerner is in the middle of? >> does not appear to be going anywhere. remember, when this came to public light last year, the inspector general had done anss was an administrative screw up, not ordered by the white house. the justice department indicated it was going to do a criminal investigation. no indication that's going anywhere. mostly issa has been flailing around with committee hearings trying to move the ball but he hasn't been able to do it and the thing has fallen off the radar screen. i think this is an effort for him to try to get this thing in the headlines again, and he certainly succeeded a

darrell issa committed an error that will prevent holding lois lerner in contempt. >> before a witness can be held in content, they have to be given a clear-cut choice between compliance and noncompliance. they never gave her a direct order and overruled her objection. they simply adjourned the hearing and moved on. >> today, house democrats introduced another privileged resolution demanding darrell issa apologize on the house floor for his behavior last week when he adjourned the meeting without letting anyone else speak and cutting the microphone of elijah cummings. here is why the democrats are demanding an apology. >> i have no expectation that miss lerner will cooperate with this committee. >> chairman, chairman, i have a statement. i have a procedural statement, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i have a procedural question. mr. chairman, you cannot run a committee like this. you just cannot do this. this is we're better than that as a country. we're better than that as a country. i have asked for a few minutes to ask a procedural -- >> the fact a is that i am asking a question. >> you