i never felt -- look, jerry ferraro helped to talk me into running for office, and then came in and campaigned against me. i always thought the women would be there. again, nancy pelosi, nita lowey, we would do what we could. would i count on them to help me politically? you get where the line is drawn. but those were relationships i will always cherish. then when you get married and have a baby, those words of advice from women who have been there were really very comforting and very helpful. and i think we stood each other up. i remember being -- i think i was getting an award at the glamour women of the year awards. pat schroeder was there as a former and connie as a former. when we heard about, i want to say it was either tail hook or aberdeen, and we met in the lobby. we happened to be going out at the same time. we're like, did you hear that story that's breaking? pat, being on the armed services committee, organized a meeting shortly thereafter. it must have been aberdeen because i had susan at the time, and was able to organize this meeting where, you know, the generals had to come in
