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>>> that's going to do it for us tonight. but in terms of tomorrow news, we are going to be watching for president biden's big speech on voting rights tomorrow around around 3:00 p.m., eastern time. this is a message from president biden that was, already, going to be urgent and fraught. even before more than 50 texas democratic legislators fled the state of texas, today, to try to save voting rights in their state. those texas democrats, who we spoke to at the start of this hour. they're going to be on capitol hill. pleading for federal help, starting early tomorrow. the president will be speaking on voting rights, at 3:00. should be a big-news day, tomorrow. i will see you again, here, tomorrow night. but now, it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> evening, rachel. ow first guest tonight is going to be representative inohosa who on this program last week, gave us a little bit of a hint, in that i asked her, did they have any other secret moves up their sleeve? for this session. and

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thank you for joining us tonight. you stepped forward and said you're prepared to support these legislators in any legal battles they might find themselves in including being arrested. >> absolutely. we're prepared to pay hotel bills to help them stay out of texas or whatever needs to take place. this is is the type of fight we must be in at this moment. we have a short window. we have until the middle of september because when the census data is released it starts the redistricting process. this would be the first redistricting process without the full potential of the voting rights act. that is something we have not gone through. could you imagine all of the gains of the last 60 years could be eroded whether being elected to a council, state legislative, everything is on the table. it's great they're coming to terms on the infrastructure bill, but there's nothing more important than ensuring we protect the rights of voters in this moment. >> let's listen to something the president had to say today about republicans,

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thank you both for joining us. vanessa pierre let me begin with you and, first of all, what was it like to be at the white house today with the president and the vice president on this important day? >> it was absolutely amazing. i wanted to be excited for myself but i was so excited for my boys. it's not all the time you get out of your neighborhood and it's so expanded their horizons and got them asking questions that they weren't asking before. so it was a fantastic experience. >> what your child tax credits arrived by direct deposit today. what does that mean to you in practical terms? >> in practical terms, well that's my grocery budget for the month. so that means that's something i don't have to worry about. that means we can start to make plans unlike the stimulus, which was wonderful, this is going to come every month. wow it's we -- get to think about long term, how this is going to change things for us. also, it's just peace of mind and you can't really put a price on that. that kind of exhale we didn't

israel, thank you for joining us tonight. representative erin zwiener, and lark is right there outside the frame, and i think she's going to jump in just in time. good night, lark. >> good night, lawrence. thank you. >> there we are. thank you all. thank all three of you very much. >>> the chairman of the congressional black caucus, congresswoman joyce beatty, got into, as she put it, good trouble today when she was arrested in the hart senate office building because she sang a song. it turns out you get arrested really fast in those buildings if you're not there to attack democracy for donald trump. congresswoman joyce beatty joins us next.

. >>> that is going to do it for us tonight. earlier in the show, we talked about congresswoman joyce beatty and the dramatic arrest of the congresswoman tonight at the senate office building in a protest over voting rights. we're pleased to say that congresswoman beatty has been released from custody after being arrested today. she has been processed, and she is out, and she is going to join our friend lawrence o'donnell right now on "the last word." so, lawrence, i'm going to get out of the way because i am desperate to hear you talk with congresswoman joyce beatty about her experience today. >> well, rachel, it's stunning to see how many minutes -- and we're talking single-digit number of minutes it took for her to get arrested when you compare that with january 6th. it has taken months to arrest some of those people, in fact most of the people who were in the capitol on january 6th have not been arrested. >> yeah. >> so this juxtaposition today and your coverage of it was brilliant earlier in the hour coming into this. it's

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he sat down for over an hour with us. and he wanted to know about things that were in the bill that the legislature has taken up now twice and will take it up again, so a total of three times. but we wanted to hear about things that were important to us, and we told him having a provision in a bill that congress can pass would be pre-clearance. that's very important for a state like texas that has a long history of discrimination, of gerrymandering, intentionallile,

la to sha brown will join us. she was with her at the senate office building yesterday, and it's been a fascinating week with the texas democrats and with just the very, very high level of attention now that voting rights has in washington this week. >> as it should be, sir. have a great show and we'll see you soon. >> thank you, ali. viewer note. what was happening at the beginning of this tv show is that i was trying to deal with my allergy eyes and that kleenex that quickly disappeared from your screen. >>> tonight we have a strange twist in the texas democrats go to washington story. one of the people the texas democrats went to washington to speak to has now gone to texas. one of the most important meetings that the texas democrats have had, if not the most important meeting, was with democratic senator joe manchin yesterday. one of the democrats was in the room with manchin. she will join us in a moment. texas democrats made their case to joe manchin about federal voting rights legislation to protect voting

thank you for joining us. i want to start there with what nancy pelosi has just said, i'm paraphrasing but she's basically saying that voting to overturn the election or not certify the election on january six, which is a separate thing from the insurrection, but they're connected, voting to do that is not disqualifying to be on the committee. i want to get your reaction to that. >> well, i think the speaker has taken a position all along that we want to get to the truth, we want to get to the heart of the matter. we are willing to work with the other side, and we're even willing to work as she stated today with people who voted to decertify the election. we were willing to have a commission with five democrats and five republicans, in which not a single subpoena could go out if republicans uniformly objective. that was a leap of faith. kevin mccarthy didn't want any of that, donald trump did one any of that, they don't want the truth to come out. i think it is reflected in some of the choices that they've mad

>>> that's going to do it for us for tonight. for tomorrow keep an eye on things in washington around 2:30 eastern time. that's when we are expecting the first procedural vote on infrastructure, on the infrastructure bill that republicans are kind of sort of pretending to support so that they can drag out negotiations as long as possible and in the end vote against it anyway. tomorrow at 2:30 eastern will be the first real vote on that. as you can tell, i do not have high expectations for what's going to come of that vote but hey, take comfort in knowing just how often i am completely wrong about things like this. ha ha, we shall see. we'll talk about it tomorrow night. now time for "the last word" where ali is in for lawrence good evening. >> you skipped to part about how they will delay and vote against it. yet like other bills which are popular among americans somehow take credit for the passing of a bill they didn't show any support for. >> that's exactly riot. >> the more things change the more things change. good to see you

congressman swalwell, good to see, thank you for being with us. you and i had this discussion in realtime way back then, when people were saying it is politically fraud to pursue impeachment against donald trump, particularly since there's not much chance he will be convicted of it anyway. you and others made the argument that that is not actually -- that shouldn't be part of the calculus. either you as members of congress do what you are supposed to do and what the constitution dictates that you do, or you don't, but it shouldn't be about whether it is politically fraught or advantageous. >> thank you, ali. it was effective, right? we did not obtain a conviction in the senate but by holding him accountable in the first impeachment, we were actually able to shine a light on this effort to have ukraine put dirt on joe biden and we stopped it. ukraine was not able to ultimately run the campaign that donald trump was inviting them to run. shining a light, although it did not remove donald trump, it prevented ukraine from doing that. i just want to dr

office joining us now is jessica gonzalez, vice chair of the committee on elections and texas state representative julie johnson. good evening to both of you, thank you for being here. representative gonzalez, you and i have had this conversation before in which we describe how this is a solution in search of a problem. but they jumped the shark on this one, the 13 counties they're investigating, three of them colin, dent in, and montgomery county voted for trump in a state that donald trump won. are we now really relocating elections for the sake of it or once you've glommed on to the big lie you can't get off that train, you just have to keep counting votes? >> yes. from the very beginning, during the rioters session when it started in january, it became clear to me and many of my fellow democratic colleagues in the texas house that republican leadership would attempt to pass some sort of harmful voting suppression legislation that was based on the big lie. that somehow donald trump actually won the election in 2020. and when we spoke up about it,

>> senator got to see again, thank you for joining us, senator chris van hollen of maryland. coming up. joe biden went to the front lines of the infrastructure fight instance natty, where the regional pro business chamber of congress are begging congress to pass an infrastructure bill to fix the bridge that connects ohio to mitch mcconnell state. that is next. that is next know this about the jungle, everything that you see wants to kill you and can. ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. (man) i've made progress with my mental health. so when i started having unintentional body movements called tardive dyskinesia... ... i ignored them. but when the movements in my hands and feet started throwing me off at work... i finally had to say, 'it's not ok.' it was time to talk to my doctor about austedo.

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welcome to both of us. gareth let me start with you, what is the problem to be solved here in this story that i have told. we all understand that we don't have laws to control these things and we all have options to opt out of certain data collection, and it seems like none of us use that option. >> well i mean, we have the option but the option is really stop using your smartphone and that is not an option for most americans. you know, this is just the world that we live in at this point, and to put it back on the consumer to say that it is all fault that we are being tracked, that our data is being collected by dozens of companies. this is just google and facebook, this is any app on your phone can be selling some of that data and anonymous it, but that doesn't mean that that anonymous data can then be combined with other disease data sense, sliced and diced by other companies and then sold on and used as it was in this case to identify specific people doing specific things. >> congressman ro khanna, how

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get us to where we are. you know, we've written about, learned about their sacrifice. now the question is, what are we willing to sacrifice? democracy requires something of us. i gave a speech at gettysburg talking about the moment that we find ourselves in, talking about the bloody battle that was fought and waged on that hollow ground to preserve the union, and now we have to each look in the mirror and ask, what are we willing to risk to preserve the union for our kids and for our grandkids? cliff, rashad, so many others were arrested protest to go ensure the right to vote. so many people have been standing up, putting their bodies on the line to ensure that this experiment in democracy sustains for the future. and let's be very clear. this is an experiment. there is nothing written on a tablet somewhere that says america has to succeed. it succeeds because every time we see a new generation of people step up to call us higher, if we are silent in this moment, if we think that this is some movie when it a

something he's not used to doing. you're absolutely right, he can command his troops and keep this from happening if he really really wants to do that. but remember that mitch mcconnell also cares about winning a majority in the senate in 2022 and he has some vulnerable senators. and if they're on record as opposing infrastructure, all of those things that are popular in their states and popular with those voters as the poll showed, that's gonna be a bigger problem for him. so i don't think that he's gonna pull out all of the stops to kill this, and if it goes through, and it goes to the house, nancy pelosi's gonna sit on it and wait until we see that larger package happen. and one other big point which is you need all 50 democrats to get the second part of this package. you are not going to get the 50 unless there is a clear belief among the recalcitrance that they have done everything they can to get this bipartisan deal done. so they're real reasons to move that forward, to get the second piece of it which is the b

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that does it for us tonight. time now for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell good evening ". >> we have big news out the senate. the bipartisan vote was much bigger than many of us expected. a total of 18 republicans supported the bill. the one absent senator was a republican who supports the bill. 17 republican senate votes on the floor but 18 in reality already there. including mitch mcconnell. >> you remember the days there were big votes in the senate like that, these days i was talking to senator tester saying until you are doing something completely noncontroversial it is unheard of to get 18 people joining with democracy. democrats. it's quite something. >> it really is. i saw your interview with john throughout the problem and he's very realistic about what the possibilities are. he's not someone who throws around a lot of false optimism. he is one of the keys to watch it get this far. it's not all the way there but this vote is a huge hurdle to get over. >> looking forward to your show. have a good o

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and so none of us were ready for the apparent reappearance of the old mitch mcconnell, the one we used to know. and it happened last night when mitch mcconnell became one of the 17 republicans voting to proceed to consideration of the biden infrastructure bill. people who could not believe that mitch mcconnell was actually supporting the biden bipartisan infrastructure bill immediately pointed out that it was merely a procedural vote and it didn't mean that mitch mcconnell was actually going to vote for the bill in the end. but in the 21st century senate, the procedural votes have become the real votes on the legislation. it used to be common for some senators to vote to proceed to considering a bill and then, having considered the bill, vote against the bill. but mitch mcconnell himself destroyed that practice by making sure that all republican opponents to a bill would always vote no on any procedural vote. and so in the 21st century, voting yes on the merely procedural vote almost always means voting yes on the bill itself. and this morning, mitch mcconnell finally spoke about his "

. >> joining us now our texas state representatives senfronia thompson who represents the houston area. she used to dean the texas house democratic caucus, and texas state representative nicole collier who she is chair of the legislative black caucus. thank you very much for being here. representative collier, do we have confirmation that republicans are gonna pull back provision? >> you know that's the first time i heard that, i have not been in contact with them, they have not reached out to me. i was unaware in fact at the hearing, the 23-hour hearing that misty, the dean of the texas democratic delegation was at. they offered amendments to the bill, and they were all rejected on the party lines. so this is just another play that they did in the session where they made promises and they made commitments but they were all unfulfilled.

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>>> that does it for us tonight. but i will see you tomorrow and sunday morning from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. for my show, velshi. and julian castro will join the rally on the texas state capitol, and washington, d.c., to start to jasmine crockett. and it's time for the last word, where jonathan capehart is in for lawrence. that is more my show. we do that on sunday mornings. >> i guess we are going to do it saturday morning as well. >> well, thanks very much, ali. it's about damn time. that is how bill passkrell side. the treasury department must turn over the trump tax returns to the committee. the bill barr justice department, the donald trump justice department, blocked trump's returns from being released despite the fact that the law is clear. the treasury department shall turn over a tax document. today, the committee's request to see the record is lawful, valid and should be fulfilled. quote, applying the proper degree of deference to the committee, we believe that there is an ample basis to conclude that the june 2

joining me us, senfronia thompson, the dean of the texas house democratic caucus, and state representative nicole collier, from the ft. worth area, chair of the black caucus. represent sif collier, do we have confirmation that republicans are going to pull the revirgs? >> that's the first time i heard that. i had not been in contact with them. they had not reached out to me. in fact at the hearing, the 23-hour -- more than 24 23-hour hearing that miss t, the dean of the delegation was at, they offered amendments to the bill and they were all rejected under party lines. so this is just another play they did in the regular session where they made promises and commitments but they were all unfulfilled. so i hope they could keep their

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>> they run policy through us, and they try to run us over all the time. they thought they would do that again here. we made it so clear to them what they were doing, ask p now that the press and everybody's covering this and they realize how bad this policy is, they're trying to walk it back and trying not to own it. i think it just shows that our walkout ask paying dividends already and make ago real impact for the people of texas. >> and representative johnson, these other legislatures, georgia and others are trying to put this these provisions about what happens after people vote. what can we do after the votes have been cast to try to continue to control the outcome of an election. they strike me as the most terrifying things in any of these laws, and you have managed to defeat this one in texas. as i say, that must feel like a huge win at least on that provision. >> it is a huge win because that provision was critically important. they changed the standard of proof that one has to prove and then they removed any evidentiary requirements of actual fra

it's still with us. we have to beat this and we have to do whatever it takes and whatever it takes to get past the super majority requirement there. this is a four alarm fire, and we have to have some federal protection. we're still gonna do our part in the house. we just need to have a partner in the senate. >> texas congressman and texas statesman gina hinojosa thank you very much for joining us on this important subject. thank you. >> thank you lawrence. >> and coming, up donald trump has found some more lawyers willing to take rudy giuliani's place and put their names on donald trump's latest frivolous lawsuit. donald trump is going to lose these cases just the way he lost when he sued tim bryan. tim bryan will join us next. and one we discover. one that's been tamed and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure. ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l. ♪ ♪ - grammarly business turned my marketing team

>>> that will could it for us tonight. it looks like tomorrow will be a big day in the news so i'll see you here tomorrow night. now it's time for "the last word." >> we have e.j. deion on with us tonight. it almost like cheating. we have this really complex legislative thing that's coming along, the infrastructure bill on two different tracks, two different pieces of legislation. and he's actually gone and talked to the legislators in charge of the legislation instead of just like hanging around on the sidelines and guessing, is it on track, is it off track? and he has very good news to report later in the hour about just how on track all of it is. >> actual data. not just jibber jabber. this is not allowed in great detail on cable news. you have to do this very carefully. some the actual chairman of the committees that are actually controlling this thing, you know, so we'll get into it on the real legislative mechanics of it. there will be a lot of missed signals and misconceptions about what is going on at any given tim

joining us now is the secretary of labor, marty walsh, thank you so much for joining us tonight mister secretary, really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me tonight, lawrence. >> your part of the team, especially at the labor department, a big part of the teams are put together this business, labor alliance, it's not an easy thing to do, i'm sure they have some disagreements along the way to getting to the agreement, how important is it that you now have business and labor united on this support of the bipartisan bill? >> i think it sends a strong message to the senate and the congress about the importance of this bill, that labor and business, understanding the importance of infrastructure. we have to give the credit to the president, president biden, has said from the very beginning that he's gonna work on a bipartisan solution. he's put in his own political capital on the line, if you will, he didn't give up, he continues to meet with people, and his ability to be able to pull people together has been amazing to watch. it's great to be part of this. as you said, a minute ago, it'

representative trey martinez fischer, this morning at the state capital in ox than texas and joining us now. democratic texas state representatives, trey martinez fischer and jessica gonzÁlez representative martinez fisher, the focus on joe manchin and senator cinema seems to be more vivid every day as you fight this battle in texas. what would you ask of them if you could speak to them tonight? >> thank you lawrence, we're in the fourth quarter this is a now or never moment for voting rights in america. we need every men and women to stand up for america with a senate deadlock at 50 50, the ballots of our democracy lies in the hands of senators manchin and senator cinema. this is time to take a step forward for our country, our democracy depends on you. we need you to be here for our democracy. let's end the filibuster, let's

you use the electoral college. you use the nullification of the supreme court, which just recently undercut the voting-rights act. to try to thwart the power of this grand and glorious, multicultural nation. >> civil rights attorney, dayman damon hewitt said this after the white house meeting. >> we cannot forget our past. now, there's been progress but we're here to say, if you think all progress is linear, it's time to wake up. if you think it's all political, and it's not discrimination, it's time to wake up. if you think it's just a little bit of discrimination and it doesn't matter, it's time to walk up. wake up. and if you think the damage is done, and that it won't get worse, that nothing can be done about it, it's time to wake up. >> joining our discussion, now, dr. johnetta coal, chair of the national council of negro women. also with us, damien hewitt, president and executive director. and dr. cole, the meeting went longer than it was scheduled which is always a good sign for white house meetings. it usua

i appreciate you having us on. we know texas is already among the most restrictive voting rights states in this country. it has a history of discriminating. legislators on both sides should be expanding the right to vote, not restricting. it i can tell you democrats are working hard to use every role we have in our power to make sure our democracy is not challenged. no matter our race, political party, or zip code, all of us know that a democracy voters pick our leaders are leader should not get picked by their voters. >> yes. we'll put. judge hidalgo, whether texas gop wants to get rid of, 24-hour voting, drive-through voting. these are all heavily used in your county, harris county and heavily used by people of color. you don't believe that's a coincidence, do you? >> no, that's right. here in harris county we have these innovations. the largest turnout we had seen in 30 years. we are home to houston, 33 other cities. beautiful voters of both parties, it was incredible. and of course now republicans in the state

joining us now, is jennifer costar, paul casarez younger sister and a very outspoken critic of the congressman, and part braddock. he's a faculty fellow in american universities polarization and extremism research and innovation lab. thank you both for joining me tonight. kurt, how dangerous is it to have elected members of the united states congress playing footsie with holocaust deniers and white nationalists? attending their conferences and tweeting out there talking points. >> i think it's extremely dangerous. he rightly said earlier that goes our is not so much a speaker but a do or. one of the biggest dangers of individuals like him isn't just the things he says. it's more of the things he doesn't say. he's trying to distance himself now from nick qantas and the america first movement. the fact them and of the

state senate democratic leader jay costa will join us in a moment. demanding the state's republican leadership step in, writing quote, should you allow this to continue, senator mastriano will have build a frankenstein creation of a committee with limitless power, frighteningly controlled by his senate intent on taking every level of our government. it is your duty as officers of this body to put a stop to this. to be clear, these republicans are not going to stop on their own. they are going to have to be stopped. leading off our discussion tonight, democratic texas state representative armando martinez and harris county judge lina

he doesn't have the authority because of a chairmanship of a seldom-used committee, certainly not used for this purpose, to conduct audits along these lines. we think it's the wrong thing to do, obviously, and we're going to continue to fight it. >> is joe biden, is the democratic president of the united states, your party leader, is the federal government, doing enough to help democrats like yourself in swing states like pennsylvania where republicans are in the majority in the legislature? >> i think they have done enough. i think they've been very clear about what needs to be done and the conversation that's taken place, it's simply that our republican colleagues in pennsylvania and across the country continue to travel down this path where they try to undermine the electoral process here in pennsylvania. we know that there were dozens and dozens of lawsuits that were filed, all against the -- trying to undermine the election. they were all unsuccessful. and many issues that have been developed along those lines, there has been no proof in pennsylvania as there has not been in many

she used to know that the senate rules could be used for evil. that was her word. evil. 11 years ago. in 2010, in the second year of the obama presidency when kyrsten sinema was a 33 year old member of the state legislature in arizona, she accurately describe how dysfunctional the united states senate had become because it was forced to work under what she called this false pressure to get to 60 votes. >> well the senate no longer has 60 votes. someone argued that we never had 60 because one of those was -- but that's whatever. yeah, and nelson to. so now, i think as a president so eloquently said there's none of this pressure, false pressure to get the 60. so what that means is that the democrats can stop counting to joe lieberman and instead seek other avenues to move forward will help reform so it's likely that the move forward with reconciliation, which takes only 51 votes. and by the way, it's not unusual. you may recall that before the democrats took the senate in 2008 that the republicans control the senate for quite some time. in fact, since around 1994. th