get us to where we are. you know, we've written about, learned about their sacrifice. now the question is, what are we willing to sacrifice? democracy requires something of us. i gave a speech at gettysburg talking about the moment that we find ourselves in, talking about the bloody battle that was fought and waged on that hollow ground to preserve the union, and now we have to each look in the mirror and ask, what are we willing to risk to preserve the union for our kids and for our grandkids? cliff, rashad, so many others were arrested protest to go ensure the right to vote. so many people have been standing up, putting their bodies on the line to ensure that this experiment in democracy sustains for the future. and let's be very clear. this is an experiment. there is nothing written on a tablet somewhere that says america has to succeed. it succeeds because every time we see a new generation of people step up to call us higher, if we are silent in this moment, if we think that this is some movie when it a

trump sent us. none of the republicans who are boycotting service on this committee could've refuted that statement today. trump sent us. that testimony will never be contradicted by anyone in this investigation or any other investigation of the january 6th defense. many of the criminals now charged with attacking the capitol have already said in their own defense that trump sent them to commit their crimes. and so the committee that's charged with investigating what happened on january 6th and who caused it already has the smoking gun testimony against donald trump. trump sent us. the trump mob who were sent there by the president of the united states told officer michael fanone how they wanted to kill him. >> at some point during the fighting, i was dragged from the line of officers and into the crowd. i heard chanting from some in the crowd, get his gun and kill him with his own gun. >> officer fanone had a few to say about the republicans in the house and the senate who tried to block this inves

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she used to know that the senate rules could be used for evil. that was her word. evil. 11 years ago. in 2010, in the second year of the obama presidency when kyrsten sinema was a 33 year old member of the state legislature in arizona, she accurately describe how dysfunctional the united states senate had become because it was forced to work under what she called this false pressure to get to 60 votes. >> well the senate no longer has 60 votes. someone argued that we never had 60 because one of those was -- but that's whatever. yeah, and nelson to. so now, i think as a president so eloquently said there's none of this pressure, false pressure to get the 60. so what that means is that the democrats can stop counting to joe lieberman and instead seek other avenues to move forward will help reform so it's likely that the move forward with reconciliation, which takes only 51 votes. and by the way, it's not unusual. you may recall that before the democrats took the senate in 2008 that the republicans control the senate for quite some time. in fact, since around 1994. th

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thank you for joining us. i want to start there with what nancy pelosi has just said, i'm paraphrasing but she's basically saying that voting to overturn the election or not certify the election on january six, which is a separate thing from the insurrection, but they're connected, voting to do that is not disqualifying to be on the committee. i want to get your reaction to that. >> well, i think the speaker has taken a position all along that we want to get to the truth, we want to get to the heart of the matter. we are willing to work with the other side, and we're even willing to work as she stated today with people who voted to decertify the election. we were willing to have a commission with five democrats and five republicans, in which not a single subpoena could go out if republicans uniformly objective. that was a leap of faith. kevin mccarthy didn't want any of that, donald trump did one any of that, they don't want the truth to come out. i think it is reflected in some of the choices that they've mad

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god help us, j.d. vance, you have the former chairwoman of the state party who supported john kasich. all of these people are like they're shrines to donald trump. it's shameful. you know, we are six months now past his attempt to overthrow the election. this could have been a race between three people of differing visions. you know, j.d. vance more populist, josh van del more tea party, other candidates more traditional establishment but it's not that. it's a competition to, yes, both do what you guys are saying and represent the fights that donald trump fights and the people that need to be torn down and the people that need to be defeated, the elites and the left, but it's also an effort to just suck up to one guy and that is very much still happening and j.d. vance is the starkest example of the flip-flop but it's happening across all of these republican primaries. >> what i find remarkable at all is this like -- it's so preposterously obviously like ploddingly, you know, hucksterism. none of these

vaccines used to be seen as a godsend. saving us from serious illness. i remember when i took my polio sugar cubes in school. and the relief parents had. but now we have made vaccination this ideological badge of the in group in the out group. and that is really what the source of the problem is. she would not make this key lifesaving elements, a badge of a member of our tribe are here against our tribe. and that has been the most serious problem here. that this is not about keeping people healthy. it's about tribe membership. >> dr. zeke emanuel thank you for all of your earnest efforts and guidance throughout this pandemic. we really appreciate. it >> thank you lawrence, thanks for having me. >> coming up, vaccine disinformation is killing people. and one of the drivers behind that misinformation is russian intelligence. house intelligence committee member will join us next. committee member will join us next whooping cough. amusement parks are like whooping cough. even ice cream is like whooping cough, it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly

on wednesday, give us more time. let us have the weekend. well, yesterday on the sunday shows you heard give us a couple more days. they're definitely getting closer but a lot of those sticky issues are still in question. we're going to continue to see exactly where this goes. but they really, at least when it comes to goal setting they are really trying to get something done in the next couple days because august recess is right around the corner, the house right now is still expected to leave for over a month starting on friday. and you'll need that chamber once the senate tries to pass a number of pieces of legislation to wrap up infrastructure week once and for all. >> thank you both for your reporting this morning. >>> coming up on "morning joe," the u.s. men's basketball team lost its tokyo opener to france. richard haass calls that defeat a metaphor for what's going on in the world. he joins us to describe that. >>> plus wildfires continue to rage across the west coast and they are causing big problems, even thousands of miles away. >

thanks for being with us devlin. all right, here's a question for you, do you remember how january 6th started? do you remember the first thing that happened that day? we all know where the day ended up, with a violent insurrection at the u.s. capital, and we know that right before the viral and's eruption, trump gave a speech in front of the white house in which he wild up his supporters and told them to march up to the capital. but that speech doesn't start until noon. at that point, the stop and steal rally on the lips have been going on all morning. the whole gang was there, trump family members, rudy giuliani, the attorney general of texas who was under indictment and in the midst of an entirely separate fbi investigation. he had tried to get the supreme court to overturn the election. but do you recall who began the day, brighton early at 9 am? who really set the tone for the event? it was this guy. >> today is the day american patriots started taking down names and kicking butz! >> that was how the day started

it's still with us. we have to beat this and we have to do whatever it takes and whatever it takes to get past the super majority requirement there. this is a four alarm fire, and we have to have some federal protection. we're still gonna do our part in the house. we just need to have a partner in the senate. >> texas congressman and texas statesman gina hinojosa thank you very much for joining us on this important subject. thank you. >> thank you lawrence. >> and coming, up donald trump has found some more lawyers willing to take rudy giuliani's place and put their names on donald trump's latest frivolous lawsuit. donald trump is going to lose these cases just the way he lost when he sued tim bryan. tim bryan will join us next. and one we discover. one that's been tamed and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure. ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l. ♪ ♪ - grammarly business turned my marketing team

, and the drc who oppose us. we support 100% the implementation of non, independent redistricting commissions. in fact, we have fought to have them put in place in michigan, and colorado, and utah. then -- republicans never say that they are in favor of that. they understand that they've got to keep their thumb on the scale. they need to have an ability to impact the redistricting process in an unfair way if they are going to hold on to the power that they got illegitimately in 2011. independent commissions are, i think, the best way to go about the redistricting process and that is a core part of for the people act. >> what do you think about, do you have advice to state legislatures controlled by democrats? because it does seem to me, and i've looked at people play with maps with places like new mexico where trifecta democratic governments can try to do what republicans have done in wisconsin. which is basically, put the screws to your opponents, use the power you have to pad your margins as much as possible be

thanks for joining us tonight. i think the question a lot of people have is there is probably been no incident in recent history there is so much video from so many angles and corroborating witnesses and people admitting and posting on social media themselves they were there and taking pride in it. why are there not way more convictions and guilty pleas at this point? >> yeah, i mean, i think the answer is bureaucracy. look at the extent of this investigation. imagine an inbox of 200,000 tips. that's a lot of tips. that's more than the fbi received at this point and to organize it is difficult in a lot of ways is old school. the fbi there say real resistance to putting things down in writing. there is a heavy reliance on email. when there is this system that doesn't necessarily, you know, isn't up to speed and takes a little while to catch up to cases, it's really causing a backlog here and a lot of these sedition hunters that identified individuals months ago and watch him go to rallies are confused why it's takin

will it get us to where we want? no. it is one part of the solution and we have to do other things as well including combatting the misinformation that is harming so many communities. >> so dr. jha, one question as people try to sort through the information that they have as the delta variant shows up is -- okay, if the communities got a lot of spread going on and i'm fully vaccinated, do i need to wear a mask indoors, it is confusing. walk us through what your recommendations are. >> absolutely. it is really confusing, right? the w.h.o., says wear a mask indoors and the cdc says no. if you are fully vaccinated you are protected and it's not 100% and you have a question which is what is that risk, really, if you're in a low infection state like massachusetts or vermont. your risk is exceedingly low. i don't think you need to wear a mask indoors. if you're in missouri with low vaccinations and high infection numbers yeah, you may have a high degree of protection, but one of them may break through and cause a breakthrough

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they use, you know, commands. they talk about discipline, and have field-training exercise. >> wow. >> exercises. so, you know -- so, for veterans returning from warfare, who may not have adequate-social support. who may be struggling. um, may be feeling purposeless or alienated in civilian society. to rejoin these extremist groups that, in essence, mimic and -- and re-create military structures. >> wow. fascinating. >> yeah. and then, the other -- just quickly, the other thought that i wanted to -- to make is that, you know, as i write in my article, the u.s. military has physically relocated for the past two decades, a lot of their bases are in south and west and in conservative areas. so, they have a structural disincentive not to condemn extremist groups. not to sort of come out too strongly against militias, against the sort of patriot movement because they don't want to alienate the communities they are a part of. and they don't want to alienate potential recruits. >> where they're located. >> so a structura

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it's a threat to all of us. as long as there are unvaccinated pockets of the population, that presents a feeding ground for the virus to take hold. let's take, for example, the state of mississippi. new cases are up 95% in mississippi over the last two weeks. hospitalizations are up 79%. only 34% of mississippians are fully vaccinated. they are tied for last place with the smallest proportion of their population fully vaccinated. the states with low vaccination rates like mississippi are and will continue to be in dire straits until more people get vaccinated. that's going to take work. it's going to take creativity. it's going to take someone like denise taylor. she used to be a professional basketball coach. she was the head coach at jackson state for ten seasons. she went on to be a coach for the wnba. these days she works in health care. she runs an operation for a clinic in the western part of the state and right now she's doing something in mississippi that quite honestly could be the playbook anywhere str

, and used to attack us, and those are weapon. if it is a pen. >> the word for plain news of politics when facts, fails the angle award goes to capitol police officer, harry dunn. >> i'm a law enforcement officer. i do my best to keep politics out of my job, but in this circumstance, i responded. well, i voted for bush -- joe biden, does my vote not count? am i nobody? >> we have more with him in a moment. that's not about politics at all. >> keep in mind, the people directed criticism here are some of the most privileged and cost to people on earth. donald trump is the perfect example, he is a thoroughly mediocre legacy case who herded -- inherited everything from his dad, he included millions of dollars -- a prep school foes and food era. they certainly never faced anything like those officers faced on january 6th. there was also the news about simone biles, the fourth time medalist and greatest gymnast ever. summer olympics happening in tokyo in japan, i've been watching and enjoying. biles withdrew from the competition. she di

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cruiser pooh, the crowd is using munitions against us. they have bear spray in the crowd! bear spray in the crowd! >> let's go get them! >> get your machete! get your machete! >> get it now! [ indiscernible ] >> go! [ screaming ] >> sergeant gonell, in the video we just saw someone throw a large speaker. that was directed your way? >> i was further inside. that was after ward, toward the end, before they got cleared when they threw the speaker at me, and i was further inside the tunnel. >> what types of weapons did you see used against your fellow officers? >> police shields, police baton, a hammer, sledgehammer that you saw on that video, flag poles, tasers, pepper spray, bear spray, rebar, hacks, pvc pipes, copper pipes, rocks, table legs broken down, guardrails for the inauguration stage, cones, 4x4, any weapons, any items that they could get their hands on. >> you were further down the corridor, but a speaker was thrown at you and it hit your foot, is that correct? >> correct, sir. >> we have a photo -- >> it was thrown my way it hit somebody else and it hit my foot. >

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thanks for being with us tonight. these few trillion dollars, roughly 5 depending on how you measure it, lifted 20 million people out of poverty. a little over half of all the people that were living in poverty in the united states. how do you think about this sustainably? how do you think about the idea that giving this money directly to people who needed it the most created such a monumental change? >> great question and thank you so much for highlighting these important accomplishments at the hands of the american rescue plan by not just getting checks in pockets, which is partly what you're talking about, partly, but also shots in arms. so important to getting folks back, re-engauged with commerce. and i say that having listened to the last segment. so you know, obviously we are not out of those woods yet. but the combination -- the president always viewed this as a dual health-economic crisis. look, i think the thing that we learned is essentially twofold. one is that the government has a tremendously important a

something he's not used to doing. you're absolutely right, he can command his troops and keep this from happening if he really really wants to do that. but remember that mitch mcconnell also cares about winning a majority in the senate in 2022 and he has some vulnerable senators. and if they're on record as opposing infrastructure, all of those things that are popular in their states and popular with those voters as the poll showed, that's gonna be a bigger problem for him. so i don't think that he's gonna pull out all of the stops to kill this, and if it goes through, and it goes to the house, nancy pelosi's gonna sit on it and wait until we see that larger package happen. and one other big point which is you need all 50 democrats to get the second part of this package. you are not going to get the 50 unless there is a clear belief among the recalcitrance that they have done everything they can to get this bipartisan deal done. so they're real reasons to move that forward, to get the second piece of it which is the b

stay with us. attack on itself stay with us what does it mean to be a hero? ancestry helped me learn more about the man behind the medal. he was a father to two young daughters. he was a scout and he knew the land better than anyone. he came from italy with nothing for a new life. his family depended on him. he sacrificed so much. isaac payne barney f. hajiro elijah bacon michael valente he is our family's hero. who e the heroes in your family? >>> the oath keepers are also here. >> we have men stationed outside d.c. >> the group is ready to follow trump's orders and takes members of the deep state into custody. they are organized, staging their equipment neatly on the ground. later, they put on body armor. talk on radios. chat with their supporters on a walkie-talkie app. >> that's part of a new documentary by "the new york times" this week which threads together footage from the january 6 insurrection to try to make sense of it all. at this point, we have seen all the snippets of what happened. it's apparent there's more to understand than what is on the su

for talking to us tonight. >> thanks for having us. >>> that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. thank you, my friend. much appreciated. thanks for joining this hour. happy to have you here. tonight the first lady of the nation of haiti is in the united states. she is said to be in critical condition with multiple gunshot wounds. she apparently was shot in her home in the middle of the night last night by armed attackers who shot and grievously injured her. those attackers killed her husband, the president of haiti. the u.s. has told staff at our u.s. embassy in haiti that they cannot leave the grounds. they are closing the u.s. embassy there. haiti has a land border with one country, the dominican republic. crossings between haiti and the dominican republic have been closed. nobody is quite sure what's going to happen next, but chaos does seem like a good bet after the assassination of their president. haiti is a country with very close ties to the united states. there's a huge haitian-ameri

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>> our family was happy to see us. that's a good sign. >> what was that moment like coming back and seeing your friends and your family here? you have supported them or they have supported you, that is. your dreams, to get to this point and oliver, your father is here, joseph. thank you so much for being here. what was that like? >> well, he was a bit more emotional than i would have thought. everyone on the ground was much more emotional than we were. we were just having fun. [ laughter ] >> that is so true. >> yeah. yeah. i think that our families have been extremely supportive through all of this, and i think, you know, i know that my wife was an absolute rock leading up to this which made, you know, the adventure much easier for me, but i know when we came down it was sort of time to let those emotions out a bit and it was great to see everybody and it was more emotional than i had anticipated, as well. >> jeff? >> you know, i wasn't that nervous, but my family was somewhat anxious about this, and so -- it was so s

the maga right wants to take us backwards. it's just an inconvenience and those demanding inequality are the ones who got the problem. that's tonight's "the reid out." "all in with chris hayes" is up next. >> tonight on "all in." >> that sparked some backlash from our legislature called for a dissolution of the state department of health. >> the madness of the republican anti-vax push as new covid cases start to skyrocket among the unvaccinated. >>> then after biden's empassioned plea to defend democracy, how republicans are exploiting the big lie to get trump's endorsement in pennsylvania. plugs -- >> these tax payments are going to lift more than half of the children in america who are currently in poverty out of poverty. >> the life-changing tax credit being directly deposited into bank accounts of american parents starting tomorrow. and big progress for the biden agenda. >> we're going to get this done. >> we are getting this done. >> a whopping $3.5 trillion infrastructure deal. >> so this is, i would say, the most conseq

>>> that's going to do it for us for tonight. for tomorrow keep an eye on things in washington around 2:30 eastern time. that's when we are expecting the first procedural vote on infrastructure, on the infrastructure bill that republicans are kind of sort of pretending to support so that they can drag out negotiations as long as possible and in the end vote against it anyway. tomorrow at 2:30 eastern will be the first real vote on that. as you can tell, i do not have high expectations for what's going to come of that vote but hey, take comfort in knowing just how often i am completely wrong about things like this. ha ha, we shall see. we'll talk about it tomorrow night. now time for "the last word" where ali is in for lawrence good evening. >> you skipped to part about how they will delay and vote against it. yet like other bills which are popular among americans somehow take credit for the passing of a bill they didn't show any support for. >> that's exactly riot. >> the more things change the more things change. good to see you

welcome to both of us. gareth let me start with you, what is the problem to be solved here in this story that i have told. we all understand that we don't have laws to control these things and we all have options to opt out of certain data collection, and it seems like none of us use that option. >> well i mean, we have the option but the option is really stop using your smartphone and that is not an option for most americans. you know, this is just the world that we live in at this point, and to put it back on the consumer to say that it is all fault that we are being tracked, that our data is being collected by dozens of companies. this is just google and facebook, this is any app on your phone can be selling some of that data and anonymous it, but that doesn't mean that that anonymous data can then be combined with other disease data sense, sliced and diced by other companies and then sold on and used as it was in this case to identify specific people doing specific things. >> congressman ro khanna, how

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. >> i'm used to it. >> see? an object lesson for everyone about how hard it is to deal with the delay that comes with the talking on television. um, it's hard. it's tricky. it's like you get stuck in that thing where you are like this on the street with someone, you keep going the same way. that's "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. > the good thing about it, though, is even people who are incredibly talented and incredibly nice get tripped up in it. even though the delay makes you feel like a jerk, when you are patently not a jerk and a very smart person. it still reaches out and grabs you by the ankle. it does. unavoidable. >> that's -- that's exactly right. in fact, you and i are speaking over a delay right now, which makes this exchange hard, a. and, b, i found it weirdly satisfying and delightful that those two lovely people were tripped up because it trips us up, too. >> that's a moral failing in you. but we can talk about that later, maybe, over the

tell us more about that? >> so it is true that we always knew, even from the moment the case was announced that there was at least one informant, at least two. and that they had been in the plot. the great revelation of our reporting, and also what has come out in the court documents and other media, including the detroit free press which has done a great job on this issue is that there were as much as 12 informants, and that those informants played a much larger more active role, one of the informants rose to the second of command, and he was in iraq war veteran and he trained a watchman and other informant invited people to a bunch of meetings when in ohio, one in delaware, and the informants were not passively sitting there wearing wires, they were actively involved with the group. >> now, one of the informants you talk about, the origin story of him being in -- [inaudible] wants to stay in fighting shape while he's working in up [inaudible] but then gets real freaked out by what he sees and basically goes

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more than we used to. i think right now we're in the summer of reset, in a period where we need to get back our health, mental health, our well being, and really reset before, i think, fall where in a lot of parts of the country will be a real challenge because people will be expected to go back to their employment. >> well, i was just going to say, adam, let's talk about what is life at work going to look like these days? i want to read something here about return to work. i've heard many leaders complain working from home, choosing where you work is not the same thing as flexibility over how you work and when you work. but it seems pretty clear-cut rally this is probably a big change that's not going away. we saw amazon and microsoft have been in interesting tests here in the pacific northwest. amazon wanting everybody to return. there was a revolt. microsoft, being very flexible, everybody happy. where are we headed? >> well, chuck, i hope flexibility is the future. we had data pre-pandemic, that people

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rob, what does this tell us and not tell us? >> preliminary data from israel a health ministry suggests the pfizer vaccine is only 64% effective at stopping infection against the delta variant. that is down from 94% effectiveness against the original virus and we are seeing signs of that on the ground here in israel. every day there's about a hundred of these so-called breakthrough cases and that is someone fully vaccinated who still tests positive for the virus. now that is the worrying news out of this report. the good news, israeli authorities would say the more important news is the data also suggests the vaccine still highly effective at stopping people from getting seriously ill. more than 90% effective and that, too, reflected on the grounds here. right now in israel there are only 35 people across the entire country who are in hospital with serious covid. i spoke to an israeli scientist earlier about these numbers and he suggested this may be the next phase of the pandemic for highly vaccinated countries like the u.s., l

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he doesn't have the authority because of a chairmanship of a seldom-used committee, certainly not used for this purpose, to conduct audits along these lines. we think it's the wrong thing to do, obviously, and we're going to continue to fight it. >> is joe biden, is the democratic president of the united states, your party leader, is the federal government, doing enough to help democrats like yourself in swing states like pennsylvania where republicans are in the majority in the legislature? >> i think they have done enough. i think they've been very clear about what needs to be done and the conversation that's taken place, it's simply that our republican colleagues in pennsylvania and across the country continue to travel down this path where they try to undermine the electoral process here in pennsylvania. we know that there were dozens and dozens of lawsuits that were filed, all against the -- trying to undermine the election. they were all unsuccessful. and many issues that have been developed along those lines, there has been no proof in pennsylvania as there has not been in many

one in four of us drank more than we used to. i think right now we're in the summer of reset. we're in a period where we need to get back our health, our mental health, our well-being and really reset before, i think, fall in a lot of parts of the country will be a real challenge because people will be expected to go back to their unemployment. >> i was just going to say what will life at work look like these days? i want to read something about return to work. i've heard many workers compare work at home to how you work and when you work. but it seems culturally this is probably a big change that's not going away. we saw amazon and microsoft doing interesting tests here, amazon wanting everyone to return. there was a revolt. microsoft, everybody is happy. where are we headed? >> chuck, i hope flexibility is in the future. we developed a pre-pandemic. people were more satisfied and more happy to stay. lfs an spirmt at a call center showing that when people worked from home, they were 13% to 15% more productive. 2024 says to resickthat, and can as people have come back are dpg

joining us now is the secretary of labor, marty walsh, thank you so much for joining us tonight mister secretary, really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me tonight, lawrence. >> your part of the team, especially at the labor department, a big part of the teams are put together this business, labor alliance, it's not an easy thing to do, i'm sure they have some disagreements along the way to getting to the agreement, how important is it that you now have business and labor united on this support of the bipartisan bill? >> i think it sends a strong message to the senate and the congress about the importance of this bill, that labor and business, understanding the importance of infrastructure. we have to give the credit to the president, president biden, has said from the very beginning that he's gonna work on a bipartisan solution. he's put in his own political capital on the line, if you will, he didn't give up, he continues to meet with people, and his ability to be able to pull people together has been amazing to watch. it's great to be part of this. as you said, a minute ago, it'