the governor of georgia and georgia and georgia's secretary of state let us down. they let us down. and by the way, the voting law they passed is far weaker than that of texas and other states. you hear that, mr. attorney general? they don't even have signature verification. could you imagine passing a voting law, but everyone things, they are passing this, no it's not. you notice they are the only state being sued by the federal government. do you know why? because it's an easy target. because the governor and the secretary of state won't defend like that guy will defend. so, i only speak the truth. so true. and the reason the attorney general of the united states is going after georgia is its so bad what they've done, and they will probably win, and that defense won't take place. they go out and they really work very hard on finding the right state to look at. now, stacey abrams and georgia got them to sign what's called a mandated consent decree, which was not approved by the legislator, therefore it's illegal, and makes a very easy for democrats to cheat and win elections. you d

i live in this county. 159 counties in georgia. there is a reason why republicans are only investigating one. out of all the other counties that had problems on election day, no other county is being investigated and at risk of being taken over by a republican pair a gram. it's only fulton county. they are afraid to say what we all know is true out loud -- that, is too many people that look like me showed up to vote and fulton county. now they want to do something about that. what we also know, when you look across the board and how we've made changes in fulton county, in june, we had our primary elections. the fulton county board of -- commissioners came in to see what happened on election day. they came in got things together for the november election. give people more access to get the lines, down they made sure they had more poll workers. you know what the state did? they passed espy 2:02 to say you can't do mobile voting units. we will not do all these drop boxes to reduce the waiting in line. the republicans are still to blam

they deleted and georgia, over 100,000 votes. the drop boxes were very late, where are they? what happened? every time the media references the election hoax, they say the fraud is unproven -- and while there is no evidence, no evidence? no evidence. there is so much evidence. >> on those very election lies, the former president keeps talking about, here's the response from one of -- >> his speech is dangerous, it's sickening, frankly. even more traveling are all those around him elected leaders, and now many in his base, who are complicit in these lies. >> still with us, our guests on callaway, and matt kaye lewis. matt, i will lead this segment was something you wrote in the daily beast. democracy works best and we have two same centrist parties. right now, we have one half of one party that fits this description. therefore, it's and everybody's best interest to encourage democrats to relate in a bit, to save themselves, and to help the gop recover from the cancer that elected trump. matt, folks at home watching who may think the democrats are way too sane, way too centered

there are proceeders in georgia, including the call he made soliciting election fraud. we saw in the mueller report, we saw an effort to say, obstruction of justice is not important. it's just a process. obstruction, it's not important. well, last week we heard trump lawyers say this is just fringe benefit stuff. nobody gets charged for fringe benefits, it's not important, and now it turns out we can see the indictment, and it's not just fringe benefits. this is 15 years of engaging in tax evasion. and giving them apartments and cars and benefits and they cheated on their taxes to avoid doing that. so if you're a business owner, you get how wrong that is. you don't get to that in your business. vp your house paid for and claim it as a tax deduction. at bottom, what the president's name sake company was doing was a pattern of fraud, having it cheating. and having it revealed if he is prosecuted, and the attorney general and the d.a. put on the evidence, that is a come uppance of some sort. >> peter baker, the other great writer in the two great writer house hold. you cov

on thursday, democratic congressman hank johnson of georgia was among ten demonstrators arrested at a voting rights protest on capitol hill. he and the others stood their ground as they called on the legislative branch to pass the for the people act. johnson's arrest was preceded by last week's arrest of the congressional black caucus chair joyce beatty who was part of a similar protest. he didn't hold back when temg my cleaning exactly what republicans are trying to do >> they are trying to kill us right now as far as our right our vote, kill our democracy. we need to have a democracy or we don't. and if everyone can't vote in the country, if some can't vote because of race, this is not a true democracy. >> preach, congressman. that's supposed to be the promise of america. true democracy means every one has equal rights and equal vote. -- voice and vote. until a right to vote doesn't depend on where you live or the color of your skin, we won't be living in a true democracy. and that is exactly why all americans need to care about this. all americans. the right to vote is right there

stacey abrams delivered georgia. i mean, we've given them all of that and still mitch mcconnell is somehow calling the shots?! come on! i'm hoping that these guys in the senate, i'm hoping manchin realizes that if you don't do something now, you're going to regret nit 2022, 2024, and who knows for how long. so i personally -- you're right, maybe the inevitable is that in texas, that law is going to get passed. but i'm happy that they tried something different. they're trying to light it up. let's go. let's do it. let's get out there and win the fourth quarter. that's what i'm talking about right there. >> rena, i see maz is fired up, even though he's mixing his sports metaphors. i'll forgive you for that once. you went from boxing to baseball to football, and i think you were on your way to arhythmic gymnastics, if i hadn't stopped you. but i understand where you're going, that there's this push to do something. and i wonder if that is the issue, is that it's not so much about the parties at their edges or the senato

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this is happening because georgia went blue. republicans understand the numbers are not on their side going forward, nor in the present in those critical states, including texas, which is closer than they would have wanted. they are implementing a plan to restrict voters -- the votes of voters less likely to vote for them. it doesn't matter if you have the best message if your voters don't have access to the ballot box. >> this comes back to the question of using the power you have. this was the lesson of mcconnell and garland and amy coney audac norm. unless you can get manchin and sinema on board for basically majority rule in the senate, 50 votes, to wield the power you have, then you can't wield the power you have. >> maybe we should start lobbying exxonmobile to get them to lobby manchin and sinema. they seem to are more influence. >> can we hire the exxon lobbyist to lobby them? >> that's what the indivisble should do. >> if they believe giving d.c. statehood, getting rid of the filibuster and adding justices would be in t

even in states like georgia where joe biden just won an election, where they elected two senate democrats. there's no filibuster in the state senate. it's majority rule. but then if you want to protect voting rights at the national level, well, then it takes 50 votes -- 60 votes and those votes are just not there because republicans won't play ball. not only that, think about this craziness. the filibuster as we say often on the show, it's not some sacrosanct non-negotiable principle. it's changed over time. indeed, i covered it changing back in 2013. democrats got rid of it for most presidential nominations because republicans were using the filibuster to make it impossible to fill courts and executive office appointments. that was a big deal. republicans at the time said you'll regret it. and in some ways probably true. donald trump got to confirm a lot of judges. historic judge confirmation rate. but that's just what democracy looks like. that's the way the cookie crumbles. one thing democrats did leave in place back in 2013, right? they said we're getting rid of the filibuster for all

but in georgia, as an example, just 5.5% of georgia's $522 million intended to go to renters and landlords, because of backlog, and because of the documentation requirements for these renters to prove of their hardships here, just 5.5% of that $522 million has actually made it to renters and landlords and more than half of the states, nbc news has found, less than 10% of that federal funding has made it to renters to help because of the pandemic. which is at the very heart of the argument of those democratic lawmakers to extend that moratorium. this was a situation here that is a crisis that we should be expecting here in these days ahead. eviction notices are already on those doors of individuals here in just this last week. >> absolutely. when you think about, for example, that renter you were talking to whose rent went from $900 to $1,300, seemingly overnight, you can't afford an extra $400 a month, that's crazy, can't afford to move, that's even more expensive. what are you supposed to do? it's a very important issue and we're so glad you're covering it for us, vaughn hillyard, thank y

a 5-year-old boy in georgia died of covid. i know it is very, very rare to see this in a young child, but what do you tell parents who have kids under the age of 12 who can't get vaccinated yet? >> i think the american academy of pediatrics was right on by requiring masking in schools for the time being, particularly because some of the other prescriptions the cdc says for a safe and healthy school environment, like indoor ventilation are hard to do. you can't invest in the hvac updates that can caused 30,000 per room, stephanie. they just don't have the resources. so i think indoor masking for those 2 and above right now in the school age group makes a lot of sense, even if severe outcomes from covid are rarer. >> steph, take us to tokyo, the olympics. what are the chances the games could actually be canceled at the last minute? my heart is breaking for those athletes. >> reporter: well, the short answer, steph, is the chances are really low. but let me give you a little bit of context. the official that you talked about, the

the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from georgia is recognized. mrs. greene: i ask for the recorded votes. the speaker pro tempore: yeas and yeas are ordered. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20 further proceedings are postponed. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from district of columbia seek recognition? ms. norton: i move that the house suspend the rules and agree to the bill h.r. 2617. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will -- does the gentlewoman wish to call up the bill as amended. ms. norton: yes. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 2617, a bill to amend section 15 of tiet 381 of united states code to amend how performance goals are achieved. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from district of columbia, ms. norton, and the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr0 minutes. ms. norton: i move that the house suspend the rules and agree to the bill h.r. 2617. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized. ms. norton: as amended. i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative d

many of the states that have been targeted, when we talk about texas and georgia, that fundamentally because they participate in a historic election last year now what we're seeing is punitive measures. what the message does that send about democracy? if we're -- if we allow that to happen, then that completely undermines democracy. that is the actual definition of political corruption. that means the political party is trying to use and use weaponize the administrative provide process to prevent certain people from voting . >> tomorrow it will be a year since we lost john lewis. i understand after you were involved in litigating the shelby county case you spoke with him on the bridge during one of the anniversaries. what did he have to say to you? >> well, he had actually attended the shelby county argument. he was there to observe it and to witness history try again. he didn't say nug. he just grabbed me and gauff me a big hug and said you did. you did. that was a moment in which we were thinking about all that and so many others had done all the way from that bridge to the court,

a group of senate democrats led by raphael warnock of georgia are preparing a revised form of legislation which is expected to be unveiled in the coming days. the details are under wraps pu it's expected to include components of west virginia senator joe manchin's proposed changes to the voting rights bill. meanwhile, pressure to act continues after leading a protest against senate inaction on voting rights with black women activists texas congressman sheila jackson lee was arrested outside a senate office building by capitol police. i'm joined now by texas state representative senfronia thompson who as you just saw testified at today's hearing. representative thompson, you spoke very powerfully about paying a poll tax, not being allowed to vote in primaries. what do you want congress to understand about what it is at stake in texas and nationwide? >> i want them to understand that our voting power is about to be ripped away from us unless they act. here's why. when you get people keep chipping at your right to vote because you happen to be a minority within this country, and you are powe

those democrats had more meetings with the clintons and georgia's stacey abrams, and joining us now is adam serwer who is staff writer for "the atlantic" and the latest piece is "the democratic leaders are betraying the blackvoters." tell us why you wrote something that incendiary? >> well, you have to raise the expectation of that statement saying that you will do something with the federal power that you acquire to protect the rights of the constituents who are the target of legislation that is an attempt to either diminish their access to the ballot or diminish their political influence on the electoral process. if you are not willing to do that, then you are asking for the votes without giving them anything in return. >> i want to draw you out on something that you wrote in the "atlantic" piece, because you say this about the democratic vote sers. the targeted constituencies must treat every election cycle as if their fundamental rights are on the line, and to listen to the democrats target the rights to the franchise as the new jim crow and then watch the same leaders do knotting

georgia is the number one forestry state in the nation and i'm proud of it but we have to address this and climate change but we have to address it with a policy that includes stable, reliable, affordable energy. i yield back. >> next up, representative kasten you are recognized for five minute. -- five minutes. >> if you can heat your home or drive your car without using fossil fuel, do it. but we need to invest capital to save money. it's a problem if you are in the business of extracting fossil fuel. we have to make sure those people are protected. ms. flowers, you mentioned energy efficiency. some people [indiscernible] a lot of utilities and states have tried to provide resources to pie the up -- to provide the upfront capital and it is not worked as hard as it should have to make sure we have access to more efficient homes. any suggestions on what we should do federally to accelerate the access to capital for people who might in the -- you might not be able to afford the initial investment? >> it's not my area of expertise but as a consumer who has talked with people who have had

in atlanta local officials, voters and senator warnock testifying on georgia's voting laws. here is amy klobuchar with garrett haake. >> i believe that this is an even bigger deal than just party versus party. this is literally a question to save our democracy. because once you start disenfranchiing people, people lose faith. >> and while that is going on, texas democrats who traveled to d.c. in an effort to block republicans from passing voter restriction bills back in their home state are kicking off a week of events to pressure congress to pass federal voter legislation. and joining me now from atlanta is gar rett haake. i want to hear about what happened in atlanta, but first i understand mitch mcconnell was talking about this on the floor back in d.c.? >> reporter: yeah, it is really all related. this field hearing today a chance for democrats to try to shine a light on this issue both here in georgia and nationally. they see these state legislatures passing laws in republican-controlled states, making it more difficult to vote, voter earlier, vote absentee and they see

this is an activist on the ground who flipped georgia blue and even she was disappointed in the speech. is there anything that people are giving their blood and tears tonight, is there anything from the speech tonight they should be happy about? >> the voting rights and the division of the justice department is something, jason? it is not enough. what i saw today and in today's passionate comment and i cosigned all of them. your point is a good one, activists have been sweating blood, sweat and tears to get people to polls. there was a sad metaphor today of the urgency of texas democrats fleeing austin and flying into d.c. but the president is going to philly to give a speech. reverend al is happy that he used the bully pulpit then i am happy. he's starting small at 3:00 in the afternoon, you know? i think we need primetime, we need we shall overcome or the joint session. we may have needed two months ago. finally i thought and this is what i thought. one thing that kind of hit me wrong was when he said we need a coalition against our voter suppression and voting rights. i think i unde

. >>> a live look out of georgia on the left-hand side of your screen, with that state taking center stage in the battle over voting rights this morning. why? you have a group of senators, the ones you might typically see on the hill behind me in atlanta. typically obscure, fairly low-key senate rules committee is holding its first field hearing in 20 years. remember, georgia passed one of the most restrictive voting bills in the country and lost last week's mlb all-star game because of it. in texas democrats from that state kicking off their second week in d.c. to try to stall a restricted voting bill in that legislature as a fifth member of the delegation tests positive for covid now. with all of them being fully vaccinated. garrett haake is in atlanta, priscilla thompson in georgiatown, texas. take us inside the hearing and what you heard from the woman leading this committee, senator amy klobuchar. >> reporter: hallie, good morning. this hearing has just gotten under way and just the fact that we're here at all speaks to what democrats believe is the scale and scope of the proble

also in trump's best including overturning the election which trump remains under investigation in georgia. so i think you make an important point of what it means to have this many indictments around you. i give you the floor for the next point you wanted to make, sir. >> you and i talked about a lot on your program. you can't make these one-on-one connections and the man allegedly instructed them to commit criminal acts without these men telling the truth. without these men flipping on donald trump. one of his family members and the thing that really like always surprises me is that except for michael cohen only flipped after he was in jail. lowers his credibility threshold just a tad. not one of these people flipped on trump or any of his children. they have all kept their mouths shut. one of the interesting things about tom barrack's indictment and the latest and i am sure it won't be the last. he's in a position and not just to flip on trump, maybe he does it because he loves the man, but herself in a position to know stuff about weisselberg and under indictment right now and he's als

>> and representative andrew clyde of georgia who compared the january 6th attack as a normal visit was pressed at a rules committee meeting later in the day. let's watch. >> okay. >> watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and walked through statuary hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stantions and ropes and if you didn't know the tv footage was a normal tourist visit. those are your words. >> and i stand by that exact statement as i said it. >> and that went on for about five minutes with congressman raskin pressing him how can you believe that after what the officers said, what you saw with your own eyes and he kept not responding, basically. just standing by his statement saying that he was being misquoted, and that was clearly jamie raskin, quoting exactly what he said. >> this was an attack done in the open. every american turns on the television occasionally saw this attack as it happened. so his -- his character is in realtomb refuted by what every american can see, and that's why we need to call other actors to hear what happened. that

no said prosecutor front humphrey's, who knew he had been cited in georgia at the time of the murders, 200 miles away. >> so this awful thing at the farmhouse, you know associating that with him? even in the public mind? >> oh, truly at that time, law enforcement knew, he was physically in augusta. >> rather, humphries focused on evidence coming from the parker crime scene. he quickly came to believe this was more than a bungled home invasion. >> it was apparent nothing had been taken, at least nothing that you would suspect to be taken in a burglary. >> humphries fought back to some curious statements bambi had made in her interview with police. she said she had given it willingly. >> so, you sure you are okay to sit down and do this? >> i'm not okay, but i want to help you. >> soon after the interview started, bambi said he had began describing in detail, a feud within her family. an issue with the land bambi owned, and her parents were living on. >> that's been a long, like, family feud. >> right. over the land? >> a long time. >> according to humphries, bambi and diane argued over

senator raphael warnock of georgia who is leading this push in the senate said that voting rights is just as important as everything else the senate is focused on right now, including infrastructure. let's take a listen. >> passing voting rights in my view is the most important thing we can do this congress. now, i know that there are a lot of pressing issues, but the american house is the house built by democracy, and if we don't preserve our democracy, strengthen people's access to it, we will not have done our job. >> reporter: so back to your original question, steph, will it get more support? well, it needs republican support, especially in the senate, ten republicans. it's very difficult to see how that happens. but you can't rule anything out until it's a done deal obviously. >> leigh ann, thank you. now let's head to austin, texas, where the march against voter suppression just resumed about an hour ago. texans have been braving the heat all week ahead of tomorrow's rally at the state capitol. i want to bring in two people who have been leading that march. former texas congre

the caller from georgia, the teacher from south carolina. there is no curriculum at any level of public schools that talks about teaching anything like critical race theory. it is a law school course, people. and most of the people calling in are not going to understand that there there is no curriculum. it is for law schools and it helps people look at the world and look at laws that have evolved in this country that came out of racism. so that scares me that you can give people information and they still do not get it. host: let's go to david, who is calling from denison, texas. good morning. caller: let's straighten out a couple of things. someone talked about british slavery in the 1700s. they abolished it in 1733, and that's misleading. they did not abolish it in america, where they had british people pay for it through bonds that were paid over hundreds of years. that made slaveholders extremely rich over the years. anyway -- the three fourths of a human being thing in the constitution was something pushed by the north to reduce the po

this is critical, and the public has a role here which is why we're going to georgia. in many ways it's like the only exhibit "a" for why we need the for the people's act but the audacity and cruelty of some of the changes to election laws in georgia is what we're trying to highlight and uplift as a strategy to not just continue to rates attention for the general public but to apply pressure on our colleagues. the last time we were at a critical moment, remember, we didn't even have the support of joe manchin for the for the people act. whether it's for the policy, moving republicans or some of my democratic colleagues reforming the filibuster we're trying to create that opening to get this done. >> but the carveout, the filibuster carveout is a good idea. your colleague joe manchin said no carveout, not each willing to agree with a carveout. his friend, senator sinema, posted a treat commemorating the late civil rights icon john lewis whose death was one week ago and reverend barber, anti-poverty act have called out her hypocrisy when she's blocking his life's work be

attorney general merrick garland announced a few weeks ago he was already going to sue georgia for a bill that was passed there. but garrett, the fact that all these other avenues even exist really underscores just how fragile the chances are of that federal legislation ever coming through. >> vaughn hillyard in austin, lauren egan at the white house, thank you both so much. >>> as the delta variant and unvaccinated americans drive up covid cases across the country, hospitalizations are also up, deaths rising by 26%, and starting tonight a mask mandate reversal. l.a. county will again require its residents to wear masks in public and in indoor spaces. >> the shift is coming a month after l.a. county lifted virtually all covid restrictions on businesses and other public spaces. and now las vegas is following suit, and recommending the same, not requiring, nbc news correspondent gaud venegas is in california. how are people reacting? are they pretty bummed out because the restrictions were just lifted? >> reporter: good morning. people were shocked at first when this announcement was m

these revelations enhanced the case in georgia where the atlanta district attorney is investigating election fraud by trump, giuliani, and others. and certainly, we've heard evidence of trump's criminal intent here, his recklessness. ivanka, according to these reports, we strive three times to haul off his troops and the president refused until it is too late. this investigation has nothing to do with the manhattan district and tierney of the trump organization. but stephanie, i believe it provides more incentive for those prosecutors to try to bring down mr. trump himself. remember, famously elk upon was brought down by tax invasion. that was far from the worst crime he had ever committed. but it was something that prosecutors could prove. so i believe manhattan district attorney will be looking at that as, well on sunday what president trump said that, after the impeachment, after both impeachments, i got worse. that's a prosecutor's worst fear, that when people are allowed to act as if they're above the law, to escape accountability, they get worse. and trump himself admitted that. >> ano

there is also an i don't know going criminal investigation of which he is the center in georgia. i mean, like tomorrow is day one of a whole new saga in his life that i think is going to make him an unpredictable figure and i think is going to -- i think it's going to be something we all need to be very open minded about in terms of how it will change the news on a day-to-day basis. >> defendant trump officially begins tomorrow. it will be the company trump that becomes a criminal defendant, but, you know, that's what you get when you name the company after yourself. so the question becomes any other uses of the word trump in future indictments, that will be the big question tomorrow night. >> exactly, exactly. thanks, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. >>> well, this is actually why i never thought he would run for president. what will happen at 2:00 p.m. tomorrow in manhattan is exactly why i thought he would never, ever run for president. based on the kind of businessman donald trump appeared to be, always appeared to be, described by marco rubio when he was running against donal

nearly two-thirds of the country have higher cases including georgia where some are skeptical on how effective the new mask will be. >> i just feel like i can breathe air. >> reporter: from imposing mask orders many states have high transmit rates so in effect, new guidance will be more of a recommendation than a mandate. in another swift reversal, the cdc is advising everyone in k through 12 schools to wear masks indoors, even teens who are vaccinate. >> to hear that means we're executing in the right direction. >> reporter: dr. lisa harrington is the superintendent of atlanta schools who just days ago announced her district would adopt an indoor mask mandate. what do you say with parents who say, look, the government is not going to tell us what to do. >> we heard the voices. and we honor and recognize that. we have a responsibility for all students. a household has a responsibility for those within it. >> reporter: across the country, a patchwork of three biggest districts new york and chicago and florida will require masks. andrea is so confused she's decided to home school her d

. >>> senator amy klobuchar joins us from georgia where she'll lead a hearing tomorrow on the state's punitive voting laws. >>> one of the texaste

in the interim, remember, between the election and the georgia runoffs, which were the day before january 6th. they all sort of went along with it because they wanted to placate him because they had an election to win. but there is always another one coming and so the justification for that is always present. and so, there will always be present to accede to the lies, until there is some sort of definitive defeat or they win. and we stop having elections or ones that matter, anyway. so tomorrow, the bipartisan commission investigating the insurrection kicks off. and again, the politics around this commission are a perfect microcosm of the moment. back in may, democrats and republicans worked out a bipartisan compromise to form an independent commission. we had chairman thompson on the show to talk about it. and the house approved it. and 35 republicans joined democrats to vote in favor. that's a good-big majority. 252-175. that's a healthy, bipartisan majority. but then, it died in the senate where it, also, got more than 50 votes with a bunch of republicans voting for it. but a senate-re

district of columbia have some form of shield law on the books including the state i represent which is georgia and i'm going to direct these questions to either miss burton or miss over lander. feel free to jump in. do these state laws. in their approach to providing protection from compelled disclosure and also into theextent that they do very , as this day by day approach adequately protected our journalists that have been engaged in first amendment activities? >> they do very asked the we previously mentioned. some states have a qualified privilege for everything you have to go through some sort of balancing test before you can get it. some states have an absolute privilege. most don't have an absolute privilege but they might protect that absolutely. there are variations but they do all provide some level, most of them provide some level of protection. the federal circuit have different standards and again you can completely depend on what circuit you're in. as to what its standard you have to put soap on them, the fact that there are varying standards creates great uncertainty on the part

georgia changed who counts the votes. georgia republicans were ultimately bullied by trump and trump supporters to do exactly what he would have had them do last november. i wonder what you make, what is your analysis of the lack of what representative crockett describes, the lack of the fire in the belly? >> well, first of all, nicolle, you and i have been talking about this for months. >> yeah. >> and just for the sake of anybody who hasn't heard already, right, the issue here is not about voter id or about passing around water in lines or any of these other points. the only issue is this issue. that is the nightmare scenario. it is not only the nightmare scenario though, it is the intended scenario of everyone who is pushing these kinds of laws, that they understand -- >> exactly. >> -- that where the real power here resides is in administration of elections, and if administration of elections was run in a partisan way that the outcome of 2020 would have been exactly what donald trump would have wanted. the election wo

or -- remember when the secretary of state of georgia when president trump called him and taped the call and said i want you to find 11,000 votes that's what i need. he was a republican, but said no, they took away his power in the legislation. that's authoritarian in its implications. and the only solution is federal action. it's a great clash between these states rushing forward all over the country but congress has the power legally and constitutionally to do something about it. the question is, does it have the political will. >> the secretary of state in georgia held the line there. brad raffensperger held theline somebody installed there won't. >> absolutely. that's why a lot of us call for this national march in washington august 28th. which is 58 years to the day of the father's i have a dream speech, the march on voting rights, because when you look at the fact, this will be an ongoing onslaught, which is why you need federal legislation. because the census taken last year will go intoic. they will use the same state legislative houses changing voting laws to gerrymander an

so people who are not directly affected by this, as you in georgia were in, or people in texas were, until everybody understands this is a front and all voting rights. we are not activating the rest of the population how do we get the rest of the world to understand this is not a black urban problem, a black voters of the self problem, this is a democracy problem. >> i think there's a number of things that we have to do, we have to be honest and what's happened in georgia this is widespread all across the nation, and while black voters and brown voters have been targeted, anybody in the most dredges laws come up, the truth of the matter is that it is going to impact all voters. that's every single one of us. anytime, one of these that we have to help people understand, is that anytime a political party be the libertarian the green the republican doesn't matter, anytime a political party abuses that power to really be in their authority to actually take laws in place, so that whoever does not vote for them, they can punish, or they can prevent them from voting or making more difficult

joining me now is the ceo of the new georgia project. it's so good to you have here. i'm so curious what was going through your mind as you were watching this. so what does a protest like what we saw yesterday mean? does it have an impact? >> i -- it absolutely has an impact. i think for me, what immediately came to mind was, wow! look at what leadership looks like. and look at these black women leading from the front. she knew the risk and knew she was making a statement. and she took a risk. i think that is the kind of leadership that we're looking for. the vice president said that isn't about who people actually voted for. this isn't about any one particular racial group. this is about americans. this is about american democracy. and at the threat is inside the house. and the second thing that came to mind as someone that had reached a professional high on january 6th when we sent the 33-year-old jewish kid from atlanta to the senate and now the senator was felt like a high. and also the -- a valley and low on the same day when we watched the capitol insurrection.

they want to make black americans in georgia stand in long voting lines, without any access to water, because that kind of cruelty is the point. that is why donald trump thinks. some people do or deserve that for daring to vote, and daring to vote against him. when you find republicans who are troubled by donald trump's cruelty, but still voted for him, they talk about the things they agree with trump on like, tax cuts, or supreme court justices isn't bad. they invariably say something like, trump did a lot of good things. exactly what donald trump said about adolf hitler. leading off our discussion tonight, is adam serwer author of the cruelty is the point. also with us jelani cobb professor of university have journalism at columbia and an analyst. so jelani cobb i want to begin with you, the people have been following donald trump four years, and following his cruelty, they will, on both sides of this, not be surprised to hear him quoted as saying that he admires hitler for a lot of good things, he says. >> yeah, it is an extraordinary statement. on the other hand, we did not a priv

attorneys in georgia being pushed out or resigning. there's been a lot of news reporting about what was happening, but what does this really unlock for congress, which at most turns have been stymied from this kind of access? >> i mean in some ways this is all a bit ridiculous because the president said all of this stuff out loud. he said it all. he said it before the election, after he lost the election, in the period of time before it was certified, right before the certification, and then afterwards. even in his statements more recently about what barr did and didn't do, what the justice department did or didn't do. so all of this stuff is out there in the public. this is very similar to a lot of things that we have seen in the trump era where the president says something out loud and then we as reporters go and find out that he was saying and doing the same thing behind the scenes. in a normal presidency the president wouldn't have said any of these things and we would have to go find out what actually happened in private. but thes

that's the reason legislators in georgia and the two u.s. senators have bravely stood up against the law. that's why we're bringing the rules committee here to hear directly from those involved in trying to stop it. >> so, senator, is the hearing tomorrow related for the people act, which is passed the house and sitting in the senate or related to the john lewis voting rights advancement act which hasn't been introduced in the house and not anywhere close to being in the senate or is the hearing about both the proposed legislation? >> great question. one of the things the legislators have said is they aren't going to let -- they are not going to be able to beat this concerted republican effort across the country on their own. they need salvation from washington. that's why we're going to georgia. it's why texas came to us. we need basic voting standards at play. [ inaudible ] the hearings are starting in the house. that's much more based on making sure we have the record from the committee hearings in the house and both things matter here. i

the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from georgia rise? >> as the member designated by mr. jones of new york, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. jones will vote yes on the motion to table. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new york rise? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. deutch of florida, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. deutch will vote yea on the motion to table. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania rise? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. lawson of florida, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. lawson will vote yes on the motion to table. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> as the member designated by mr. cuellar of texas, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. mr. way -- that mr. way yak of texas -- cuellar will vote on the motion to table.

we're seeing that in georgia and all across in nation. to the extent the texas democrats had to flee from their homes to go to d.c. to stop this voter suppression, i think that's a demonstration of how intense this fight is that we're in right now. while we're seeing this direct subscription, it's not going to stop. this is not something that's not going to go away, that we can out-organize, out-litigation, we're going to have to have federal legislation to make sure we have protective voting rights and really unravel a lot of the damage that republicans are doing right now. >> let's look at the states enacting restrictive laws right now. these are states voting, enacting voting rights laws. you've got a second map here, states that are actually efforting these audits like pennsylvania and michigan where they may not get much traction but they are trying. latosha, until people not directly affected by this as you in georgia were or people in texas were, until everybody understands this is an affront on all voting rights, we're not activat

and we look back at what happened in georgia, people came out talking about the georgia bill being jim crow 2.0. in the light of day. you had people like nate comb at "the new york times," saying no, it made voting more accessible. there are troubling parts of the bill but it wasn't as bad as first advertised. let's talk about the texas voting bill. do you consider that to be a dangerous piece of legislation? is there any piece of that legislation, like the georgia bill, that actually takes the rights away from local election officials and puts it in the hands of the republican legislature? >> when you look at what republicans are trying to do here in texas, it's all tied into hundreds of pieces of legislation across the country, whether we're talking about georgia, arizona, other states, and i see it as trying to push back on a changing texas, the demographics of texas have been changing for a while, everybody knows that. in 2018, republicans lost 12 state house seats, lost two congressional seats, lost two state senate seats. and this is an attempt to try to make sure that they stay

the minute the democrats won their victory in georgia, what did they do? they canceled the schedule. now we found six months later all they have done is develop a crisis. the republican conference will have the answers and solutions and lay them out to the american public. as we move into this weekend, just six months of the biden administration, highest gas prices in seven years as many want to hit the road. inflation grew at the fastest rate since 2008. crime, last weekend, more than 70 shootings in chicago. just watch the weeks before man and woman pulled from their car in broad daylight and shot and killed on the streets of chicago. just a few weeks ago, we watched a young children on a sidewalk in new york being run down. we watch crime continue to spike as the democrats made that movement just a year ago about defunding the police. the democrats defunding the police isn't enough. we watched in appropriations just yesterday. the defunding of the border as well. from c.b.p. and i.c.e. and reducing what the biden administration wants. we watched the per

. >> eugene, i have been covering this issue since the first stories emerged about the georgia law signed into law. major league baseball moved the all-star game to colorado, and 389 laws, you talk to democrats privately they mumble about mark elias, one man doing the lord's work as is stacy abrams. why are democrats so complacent on an issue that could deprive them of majorities in the house and senate and access to the white house for the reason republicans are saying out loud what they are doing, rigging the electorate, why isn't this a four-alarm fire? >> well, i think it is a four-alarm fire, nicolle. i know a lot were not play sent at all about this. but there's the fact of the 50/50 senate. that's what we're living with and so the best result democrats can anticipate getting right now is what joe manchin and maybe a couple of others are willing to go to the mat for. and that may, as tim suggested, that may be something less than the protection of voting rights bill that is now being considered by the senate. maybe it's something like the hr-4 bill that the senate can take up. the j

health care, other infrastructure that president biden wrote that as part of the pace and for sure georgia through boards or go. today, the chance for station minister pete buttigieg pushed for the infrastructure agenda. i sat down with him here in oregon, to discuss the senate's two track approach to infrastructure, and what he thinks of the bill that senate democrats are putting together which takes a broader view of infrastructure than republicans do. >> the idea that americans ought to have paid leave just like people in pretty much every other country, it's something you don't have to be a democrat and republican to believe in -- and most people think we ought to do it. there is a problem with it in washington. a few months ago, when talking about human infrastructure, i heard republicans say childcare is great, building veterans hospital is great, we just don't think it is infrastructure. you should put it in a different package. fine. now it's in a different package. let's see if they vote for it now. >> yes, we shall see. you can catch the full interview with buttigieg on my show.

so he also gets wrapped up in, if you remember, the fights between president trump and the state of georgia over the count. and he has to navigate doj's you know essentially staying out as best they can from that fight. so he keeps touching these very complicated, very tricky issues. i think you are right, the notes are taken for a reason. they were taken because he feels there need to be some kind of record that this is going on. and importantly, he needs to preserve as much what trump said, which is what we are focusing on. i think from the justice department's view, they need to preserve what they said and they did. that very important, you can see, in rosen's public and praft statements. >> yes. devlin barrett, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> donald trump's request for the justice department to sigh the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me sounds a lot like his request the ukrainian president said in his first impeachment who said, quote, i would like you to do us a favor, though. he was more desperate to misstate his q. because these were his people. daniel goldman serv

but one of the things, one of our leaders in florida -- not florida, excuse me, georgia, helen butler, she sits on a board, lives in athens, georgia, been active on her local board of election for years it's something you try to keep nonpartisan or some cases bipartisan. that bill passed in georgia also allowed for them to take people like helen butler off the board of elections so you can put lackies in with control of the count. so these laws go at the heart of how election administration takes place. we know as african-americans we have had to have federal interventions. and we know if we can't win in the courts we have to have legislation. with my colleagues who are the sharpest legal minds out there, broke it down how we had to fight for our vote when the courts weren't there for us, we had to have legislation passed. you can go as far back as the 1800s. it was laid out, as a matter of fact, yesterday. we have to have it, it's not an option. our democracy is at peril. it's not just what's going to happen to african-americans. it's the whole idea of what our democracy is built upo

republicans especially the congressman from georgia saying it was like a tourist visit. it was certainly not a tourist visit. what is your worry with that especially when it comes to the appointments of some of the names to the select committee? >> i don't have a worry actually. i think the speaker has acted appropriately. this is patterned very much like the benghazi committee that was stood up by the republicans, and as we recall, this was where we had a u.s. ambassador to cia agents and a contractor killed in a foreign country. this happened in the homeland and seven people were killed and we have reason to believe that many of these groups had come together under the auspices of the trump campaign to sabotage the counting of the electoral vote so that it could, in fact, be an opportunity for then president trump to call for martial law and a coup would have ensued. this is really serious, so regardless of who is appointed by mr. mccarthy, i think our team is going to do the people's work here. this is very serious. >> you compare the capitol riots to the jonestown ma

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we've already seen what happened in georgia. there are signs of pushback on voting rights, and one of the things that is very disturbing is we've been able to vote by absentee ballot but people are now being told they have to have a voter i.d. in some way. you know that speaker pelosi has made it very clear that she's going to push forward. people are going to fight to protect the vote in all manners and not let us be divided by fear and hatred and lies, and every person's vote counts in this country. plus people's confidence in their vote. cpac talked about it a minute ago. these lies are just undermining people's confidence, and we've got to push back, period. >> what about on infrastructure? there's been flooding in michigan not too long ago, the last few days and weeks, including an ipsolante you've been vocal about and kind of refer to that as part of the rationale for why we need to move guard on some kind of infrastructure. i know after the flooding, the condo collapse in surfside, florida, the way we talk about infrastru