>> and in the united states going back through 2008 she promised ukraine and georgia no interim security guarantee so i will say first of all i don't think formal american alliances are something the bush administration would've argued against that and i making that promise in some ways we have gotten the worst we put it a bull's-eye a on and ukraine because those want to bring them in so he tries to destabilize those countries to keep them ineligible for any near-term membership. the only way out of this conundrum to my mind is to a large the conversation to allow putin in russia told their forces out of northern georgia and eastern ukraine what they want into the former soviet space think we have the right dialogue and concept we could do a better job to help georgia and ukraine but to some extent created those perverse incentives that putin look to destabilize with those that are east of nato in and that former soviet space. >> so would you say forget about the membership that's off the table? >> you want to get that unilateral concession to putin if we are partially responsive to rus

chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia for five minutes, llady yields back. chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia for five minutes, mr. clyde.e lady yields back. chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia for five minutes, mr. clyde. there we go. thank you, mr. chairman. i want to follow up on my colleague from texas's excellent comments. we talk about morale within dhs hitting the bottom and i would certainly agree. it's completely clear that when an agency's important work doesn't get support from top leadership especially political leadership morale suffers. we can start by stopping the negative comments about i.c.e., about border patrol, about cbp, et cetera, when they are just trying to do their job and follow the law. when politicians purposely degrade them and threaten to defund them of course it's going to negatively impact morale. we should be supporting dhs efforts to follow the law, like continuing the construction of the border wall, which was written into the law by congress, but instead this administration is countering that law by execut

the gentleman from georgia, mr. clyde, is now recognized for five minutes. mr. clyde. >> thank you, madam chairwoman, for holding this important hearing today. in the four-plus months that i've held office, one of the top issues to repeatedly arise in one of my meetings with the ninth judicial district is the high cost of prescription drugs, many of which are lifesaving medicines. this is an issue that many of us on the committee have the desire to address. i think patients should have more choices when it comes to accessing lifesaving medications. however, to achieve this goal we must be very wary for stifling innovation. it would be detrimental to lower costs. not only would the woes of hr-3 be felt by the big manufacturers, but i believe they would be felt by the small businesses and start-ups as well. i'm extremely confident that would be the end result. because as a small businessman by trade, i fully understand how stifling it is to be strongarmed by federal bureaucrats. i'm determined to look for solutions that work, not only to bring convolutedness, but

the gentleman from georgia, mr. clyde, is now recognized for five minutes. mr. clyde. >> thank you, madam chairwoman, for>> holding this important hearing omtoday. in the four-plus months i have held office, one of the top issues to repeatedly arise in many of my t meetings with constituents in georgia's ninth congressional district is the high cost m of prescripti drugs, many of which are life saving prescriptions. i strongly believe wee should b working to insure patients have more choices when it comes to accessing life-saving medications. however, in pachieving this go, we must be very weary of any effort that looks to stifle innovation or towe set which is set prices, such as in the democrats proposed bill hr three, and the solution that puts forward is detrimental to the efforts to lower costs and increase choices. not only with the woes of hr three be felt by big manufacturers, but i think they would be felt by small businesses and start-ups as well. i'm reasonably confident that that would be the end result because of the small business man by trade, i f

that i believe it would have passed if it would have had that 2013 decision we would not see sb 202 in georgia become law as it would have been stopped under its tracks under a preclearance provision. this is a right-wing takeover that is and has been anti-democratic. we know that the vast majority of recent presidential elections have resulted in the popular vote going to democratic presidential candidates and we know that democratic senators represent 40 million more people than republican senators, and yet we have seen this right-wing takeover of the supreme court and folks like myself, and many advocates across this country want to do something about that. we want to save democracy itself from a supreme court majority that is hostile to democracy itself and while i won't commit to a specific deadline by which legislation will be introduced, it is an ongoing conversation with myself and my colleagues. >> do you have -- have you've been able to find any republicans who are even vaguely interested in doing like this, even in just conversations or is this truly purely a democratic push effort

carter from georgia. i owe mr. carter a couple of extra minutes from the prior hearing when he was cut off, so i'm gonna recognize you for seven minutes, and if you want to don't want to take them all we can roll them over to another time. mr. carter. >> thank you mister chairman, i appreciate remembering that not that i was gonna let you forget a bit nonetheless i appreciate it. thank you miss young for being here today and for answering these questions. i have quite a few questions, fact is hard for me to decide which one to ask. i will start by asking you, in your testimony you said the budget makes investments that we need right now. it predicts high growth is as the federal government is pumping trillions and trillions of dollars in the economy. but it seems the economy will only dry at under 2% a year for most of the decade. despite all that funding or, for all that spending are say, your projections show gdp growing to nearly the same as the cbo's baseline projections. why won't these massive road enhancing

treated equally under the law, you want people to be able o exercise the right to vote, my god, has georgia not clarified the status for people? i think it has based on the conversations i have been having and so i'm really committed to making sure that this is described accurately as something that is essential to having a democracy moving forward. given the hostility that people on the supreme court, a majority, including a majority that is more conservative than the one that decided shelby in 2013 actually cares about these sort of bedrock principles that, again, of us had just taken for granted. i hope it doesn't take something truly truly terrible in a decision coming down from the supreme court whether this term or next term to get people to wake up, but my prediction is that there will be legislation already introduced by the time that happens, so that we can continue to rally around them. bill has added a comment asking, we have had nine justices seemingly forever, would it be wiser to adjudgeships at the apalate, do you think there's a risk to try and walk and chew gum by pushing f

she's a tax attorney by trade and she served 11 years in the georgia house of representatives, seven as minority leader. in 2018 she was democratic nominee for governor and she got more votes than any democratic nominee in the history of the state. she's launched multiple organizations that are devoted to voting rights and to training and hiring young people of color and tackling social issues at the state, national and international level. she's the founder of their fight, fair, and the southern economic advancement project. she's a featured her degrees from spelman college, the school of public affairs, university of texas and yale law school and now she has really good thriller writer to her massive list of amazingaccomplishments . knowing me in welcoming stacy abrams. >> thank you for a kind introduction. >> i am so happy to be talking to you about this. i warned you before but i'm going toward everyone who's here this keeps jumping off the shelf. it's the sign of a book i really like because it's so amazing. if i was going through it i would be like i'm waiting for some kind of

georgia let's do it pretty well under royal rule, but the loyalties were divided in the colony of, georgia. but many folks felt that they needed british help to defend against attacks from american indians. you also had savannah which was a pretty well-off port city so they they didn't even send a representative to the first continent continental congress until philadelphia in 1774. now they did end up sending one delegate to the second continental congress. tensions at which was in may of 75 tensions were rising at this point, especially in may around the same time as the second continental congress. there was a seizure of gunpowder from the powder magazine in savannah. so so tensions are really starting to build despite this kind of overall general support of a rule over the colony. it's in the backcountry, which is a common thing in the southern colonies. it's the backcountry and it's specifically in georgia around the areas of like augusta. where tensions were really rising because you had still a decent amount of conflicting support depending on which side you were on and it's the bac

obviously why we were so surprised with the election of the two democrats from georgia. a look at american history shows that partisan anxieties have been common when states have been considered for admission to the union since the original 13. 37 times these anxieties were overcome to enable us to become the united states of america. here is an example which i think proves the difficulty of deciding this issue based on political predictions. in 1959, alaska and hawaii were both seeking admission to our union. there was a lot of concern about how the citizens of those states would vote. they were essentially both admitted together because they were expected to balance each other politically. alaska was expected to vote emma craddick, hawaii -- vote democratic, and hawaii was expected to vote republican. that was the consensus in 1959. in my 24 years in the senate, the opposite is the case. hawaii elect democrats and alaska has elected republicans. so much for deciding great constitutional issues such as this because of passing political prognostications. it is not only w

so i think that there are ways it can impact us and i share that after the shootings in georgia. i wasn't there, but i think i felt more vulnerable as an asian woman than i ever felt before. so there are those broader impacts. but you mentioned that perhaps the answer will not be found in law, but really in greater societal change, changing the culture. and it raises the question for me about the extent to which law reflects the culture we live in, should reflect the culture we live in, or affects the culture we live in. and so i guess i'm wondering your thoughts on whether there actually is a dichotomy between solutions in law and solutions in culture or whether the law is linked to seeking change in our culture. >> yeah, well, i think it is all linked together in important ways. in the most narrow focus, i mean, i've listened and participated in lots of panels on hate crimes. but i think as most people who work within the law know, hate crimes are very precisely defined and difficult to prove. and there are probably good reasons for that. and so in some sense to talk about the

as well as those leading georgia's trade efforts? we have the port of savannah, one of the fastest growing ports in the country -- to show how we can export around the world? >> if you sweeten your deal with a slice of pecan pie, it's a deal. >> it's a deal. >> let the record reflect the commitment that's been made here today. i want to thank you for joining us, grateful for your testimony. we'll proceed the second panel. senator durben has returned. i'll return the gavel for him to introduce the witnesses for the second panel. please come forward at this time. >>> special thanks to the secretary of agriculture. and i think it's been 20 years since he's prepared me for the judiciary committee. and thank you for your services to our country. we have a second panel coming up. and i'll tell you who they are. rene custra is from my home state of illinois. they operate a grain farm in wood stock. they were dairy farmers for 30 years. it's one of the highest producing farms in illinois. good for you. received several awards for production

parritt, today in georgia, at our 159 counties, half have no obstetric's provider. nine have no doctor at all. the shortage is particularly acute in rural areas where patients are underserved and ob wards are closing. the georgia state legislature passed a law that would have banned access to abortion services as early as six weeks into her pregnancy and i would note that law has subsequently been enjoined by federal judge. can you please speak to how such restrictions impact the practice of medicine in areas where ob/gyn services are already in short supply, and how the threat of prosecution for providers deters the practice of medicine in areas where there is inadequate access to clinical facilities and doctors? dr. perritt: thank you, senator, for that question. it is a really important one. i, too, have a graduate degree and a masters in public health and know the difference between causation and correlation. the reality is when we see these same laws being passed, it's an attempt to limit access to care, particularly for those that historically are marginalized

i'm grateful to secretary yellen, georgia department, and the irs for helping get us through the last rounds of stimulus checks, as they went out the door smoothly. and i know that we can count on the same level of precision in care as we expand the set of vital initiatives. one item i know that we will agree on today is to empower the irs to collect taxes were legally. odd years of evidence have show that there's no better bank for our legislative daughter than fully funding the irs for every one dollar spent on tax administration, we return almost five dollars to spend on infrastructure investments and social programs. that is why the president has proposed to increase the budget of the irs to ensure compliance that administer new programs like the advanced child tax credit and to improve customer service for all taxpayers. as my commented indicated, there are many important policy challenges facing this congress and this committee, and it is in collaboration with your agency that we hope to address them, madam secretary. i am grateful for your partnership as we work together to bui

with georgia on their minds, democrats on the senate rules committee held a rare field hearing where lawmakers passed new election laws which could affect voter turnout amongst black voters. the governor kemp and others have said it expands voting especially in rural areas by adding another day of early voting and drop boxes in most rural counties. here's james in bridgewater, new jersey, asking you this morning to grade the president on his first six months. go ahead, james. >> yeah. well, you know, when you elect a president, you're electing one man, but there's a whole administration that goes with the president, and my point is that, know, he can do just so much in controlling the administration. hundreds of thousands of are there no matter who is president so try to squish what the president is trying to do is and what the administration is achieving. fork, me, i think the cdc it's outrageous and fauci is outrageous because most of the things they are going with it diagnosis and many so on, the facts is there is it note -- making a virus that you inject in people so they make an

in right now in the final stages of finishing up a book which will be published by the university of georgia press next year it's called the families were the same title as tonight lecture will get a sneak preview tonight and he will speak for about 35 minutes so we have plenty of time for questions you can ask to the q&a box on zoom so any time if yorty have a question you can start now through the lecture type your questions into the q&a box we will keep an eye on the questions i'm looking forward to seeing the questions that you ask and we've had excellent discussions there are are lectures this year. we will wrap things up by about 815 eastern time. thank you again for joining us things to a very warm welcome to the virginia center civil war studies now over to you. >> . >> first of all thank you to virginia tech university for civil war studies for providing me with the opportunity to speak about my research of the first book which will be at the university of georgia press next year in the uncivil war series. i will also note as a proud virginian it's always nice to talk with people fr

the gentle woman from georgia, miss williams, is now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair. we have a lot of work to do when it comes to closing the racial wealth gap in this country and in my district which unfortunately is at the bottom of the list for all cities. if we want to make significant progress on this issue it's going to take private industry and government making ambitious governmentments by even more importantly it's going to take implementation of steps to reach these commitments and sent measurement and assessment of progress. mr. coles, it you tell me a little bit about how your members are measuring progress towards objectives that they have devised to address the racial wealth gap and how will this measurement be used to inform their plans and actions going forward? >> thank you, congresswoman. i think the bpi members are tracking according to a couple of different buckets. the numbers of small businesses that they have engaged, philanthropic commitments and disbursements that they have made, i think that these are areas that i think are also part o

i'm happy to see hard working families across georgia and across the country see the benefit of this to help with the rising costs of raising our children. in my home state of georgia, little more than 1.2 million famiies will have relief for 2.5 million children across the state. and chairman powell, you stated that the widespread vaccinations along with unprecedented fiscal policy actions are providing strong support to the economic recovery and with the families beginning to receive their child tax credits today, how does the direct financial support to families help to sustain the ongoing economic recovery? >> of course, we try not to comment on the fiscal policy measures, and especially the one that you have mentioned, and generally from the policy, it did step in strongly and support people in their time of need, and the record will show that. >> thank you. i have a quick question about a housing bill that i am currently work on which i hope is a bipartisan bill, and one of the other challenges that i am working on is the widening racial wealth gap in our country, and a wealth

georgia has passed a law that is kind of unbelievable in some of its provisions. how does a for the people act -- we know the john lewis act will help in one important way, with identifying those policies in states that engage in discriminatory conduct going forward, which is one of the issues. it would be forward-looking. they would have to come before the justice department to -- for approval. but the for the people act is actually firmly grounded in the constitution. there is a provision in the constitution that has never been doubted that says the congress can make and alter provisions governing federal elections. and that's one of the things that interests me so much about the bill. can you talk about some of the important protections in this and how it could simply create some national standards for voting instead this mess, including how we count the ballots after, with some states, including some blue states waiting and not even starting counting them until after the election is over, and then everyone is kept in suspense for weeks? anyoneway, go ahead. >>

out of georgia. moore, go ahead. >> caller: good morning, c-span. i'm a 73-year-old african-american. and this voter i.d., voter restriction, i did two tours in vietnam and i could not vote. i could not vote until 1974. so voting restrictions have been around forever and it is time for it to stop. america, we are citizens. we have the right to vote. america, we don't have to show you all our i.d. do your homework. it is our constitutional right. by having an i.d., that doesn't constitutional right. have a good day. >> out of new york. good morning. >> caller: good morning. obviously, protecting the integrity of the voting is supremely important. if we expand access but not the integrity, you're defeating the purpose. they're jumping up and down. this is the biggest turnout ever. they turned election day into election week or election month almost. the turnout every year is abysmal for a reason. no matter who gets voted in, they don't spent our money financially prudently. they don't do their jobs and both parties are responsible for the way things a

james is a republican out of georgia. good morning. >> caller: good morning. you know, i'm just a little bit concerned about the way -- we talk about the taxes, i just heard you say joe manchin want a bill that would eliminate the trump tax cut, but the trump tax cut helped the working people and when they talk about taxes, they talk about taxes the core operations when they ought to be taxing the ceos. every time you tax the core operation that's why everything goes up. everything don't go up. you tax the core operations that tax is going to be added on and you're going to pay for it somewhere else. and the people that's going to pay for it is the hard working folk that's going to work every day. >> james, you would be okay with increased taxes on high earners, but not increasing the corporate -- >> caller: i am. exactly. the corporate is going to hurt us, the same people that joe manchin and bernie sanders claim that they are helping. if you want to help us, leave the core operations low so they stop going up on all other prices and get to the ceos that's ma

we here in georgia have an outreach arm called team agriculture georgia that's specifically aimed to provide outreach to beginning and underserved producers in the state and convenes various arms of usda, from nrcs to rural development to f.f.a. to engage all of them collectively and provide direct outreach. i think some of the challenges with that are certainly funding. it's not just adding additional work to folks on the ground in a are already working really hard and really dedicating funding to, you know, ensure that outreach is effective. of course, this past year has been really difficult for the in-person engagement. those opportunities are really invaluable. mr. lawson: thank you. madam chair, before i yield back, i'll share the almanac with you because it might be before your time. [laughter] chair plaskett: i am not even going to respond to you. [laughter] thank you so much, mr. lawson. ms. cooper, may i ask, the program you talked about in georgia that assists underserved areas, is that an organization that was created by the state or by farmers themselves? and how is that

the gentlewoman from georgia, ms. williams, the vice chair of the subcommittee has five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. my top priority in congress is that those marginalized remain involved in the consideration. this means that those with marginalized are going to have access with those who are involved in. ms. hammer, how can you be communicating with those investing for the first time to be avoiding predators? >> thank for the question. protection is a key issue. i refer to several key agencies is in erisa in the department of labor is something that we think about in these markets. investors have different risk profilessh and different periods of time that you can think of, and not every asset is available for every vehicle. today, we are seeing the crypto currency amming inst younger investors through feel strongly that coordination from fsoc is important through consumer protection and that we have the data and the resources to evaluate what is happening in the market. without a official data source, we are

representative williams of georgia for her opening statement thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you to all of our witnesses for joining us today for this critical conversation often in congress is up to us to write the rules of the road while the road is being built. this rings especially true when we talk about the rapid development of digital assets. we have to be sure that the legislative and regulatory frameworks governing digital assets. keep up with the pace of innovation. what's that stake ensuring financial innovation is appropriately serving all the people the people of georgia's 5th district won't financial services that are responsible and help them improve their lives and it's our responsibility to make sure that any financial innovations including in digital assets meet that bar. i look forward to our discussion today, mr. chairman. i yield back the balance of my time. channel later yields and thank you miss williams. i'm it is now my honor to welcome each of our witnesses. and i'm pleased to introduce our panel. we have miss iverson. who is the

in georgia, we have georgia grown. we have farmers market promotion programs. what can we do to influence the consumer buying habits, to encourage them to go to the farmers markets, and other ways that they can buy directly from the farmers so that the farmer can get more than 10 cents out of the dollar that the american consumer is spending, and i know farmers from your area that actually carry their product all the way to the atlanta farmers market because they don't feel like they have the volume of customers at the local farmers market, looking for your input there. i know you do a lot with organics but obviously that's a specialty market. you have to have the volume of customers as well. any input there would be appreciated. >> yes, sir, thank you, congressman scott. you know, i farm in sumpter county, a really large green bean producing county in our state, and one thing that we observed this past year is that these large green bean packing houses that you said are typically sending things up to atlanta to serve urban markets, they started opening their d

the georgia from georgia mr. loudermilk is now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. thanks thank to the panel. this is an important hearing i think it is something we need be the looking at. one of the aspects of being here is a lot of times people draw a line in the sand early on and take an early position on something, especially when it is dealing with technology especially because it is something you don't understand or there is a fear factor. i have seen this with cryptocurrency because a lot of times we don't see the forest for the trees. in this case, i think there is something we miss out on because we have either decided we are for or against cryptocurrency. and that part we are missing out on is the blockchain technology which is underlining which i think is very valuable for us in this nation, especially in the federal government. and i have been advocating for a long time that we utilize or at least we look very strongly at using blockchain technology as a solution to our crypto -- not our crypto -- but our cyber security issues here in this nat

cooper from georgia. i spent a lot of times at the farmers market as a younger man and as did most of the members of my family. and it used to be that you would go to the farmers market and you would buy your vegetables, and not your fruit, and you would shuck the corn and off the cob and put it in the freezer and the american consumer has changed. but you mentioned the programs of the young farmers in georgia and we also have other program, but what can we do to influence the consumer buying habits to encourage them to go to the farmers markets in other ways that they can buy directly from the farmer so that the farmer can get more than 10 cents out of the dollar that the american consumer is spending, and now that he the pharms from your area that are actually carrying the product all of the way to the atlanta farmers market because they don't have the volume of markets there. looking for input there and you do a lot with organic, but it is a special market and you have to have the volume of customers t

the gentlewoman from georgia, ms. williams, the vice chair of the subcommittee has five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. my top priority in congress is ensuring that those most marginalized remain at the center of our policy considerations. when it comes to digital assets, this means making sure investors of all experience levels have equitable access to information about the digital assets they're investing in. ms. hammer, how can regulators best communicate with all consumers, especially those investing for the first time about any risk associated with investing in digital assets and ways to avoid predator behavior in the market? >> congresswoman, thank you for that excellent question. as i mentioned in my oral testimony, investor protection is a key concern and priority when we think about cryptocurrency. i return to what i recommended in terms of coordinating federal agencies because investor protection, consumer protection and even erisa in the department of labor are implicated when we think about investing

its coming out from the university of georgia press. it is well known, thanks to a growing body of scholarship, that the enlistment campaign for northern african american men in cities such as philadelphia, pennsylvania that war propagandists, including some of the individuals you see here, frederick douglass, anna dickinson, and henry highland garnet, emphasized his supposedly sponsor ability's that able-bodied african-american men had to emancipate their enslaved southern brethren. this rhetoric claimed demonstrating one's patriotic manhood would allow them to acquire full citizenship, including voting rights, possibly. war propagandists collectively argued the racial disk that all united states troops soldiers would experience some form of racial destroy nation. even so, potential recruits were told to focus on ending slavery while simultaneously proving african-american manhood paralleled their white counterparts. in doing so, it could lead to them obtaining rights, such as suffrage rights or the protection of civil rights and refut

carry on is a collection of writings by john lois of georgia. -- john lewis of georgia. >> on a recent episode of the joe mobley show podcast, a criminal profiler and her son discussed race in america and argued that black lives matter is ignoring the legacy of dr. martin luther king jr. here is a portion of the program. >> i live in an area of maryland which is a majority black community and meet up started sending me these emails saying, in your community, you could join this group. i was interested because when you want to get involved in something, you would like it to be not an hour away, if you can have it five minutes away. i said, this is great, there is a book group, there are all these groups. the groups were named african-american something or yoga is for black girls, and i'm like -- there were not just one or two, there were dozens of these and they were in my community. i decided, i'm going to try to sign up for them because this is where i live. i sent over, i want to join your group, and they saw my picture and they said, you cannot join because we are only for african-a

and from georgia would like to know. president clinton, do you have a favorite james patterson book? oh, that's hard to say because i like a lot of them, but i the last one i read i love is autobiography. and i was not out. yeah, but you should get it. because it's the stories of his life and he knew a lot of interesting people. and so i like that i like welcome my combat boots because he showed. what really motivates people to serve in the military? and when they're under fire and under stress what drives them? i like that and i i like the night as i said earlier. i like virtually all of his books including some of the standalone books and the black book but i really really like michael bennett and his family of 10 kids. and i love dial alex cross books. because he's a countertype and at the time when he started writing them. there weren't many black geniuses. who were academic? crime solvers and yeah, but also had a real life. that's why morgan freeman did the movie because he liked it that alex saw problems with his h

for the black community during reconstruction was charleston, south carolina and georgia, alabama and florida were almost majority black states. so there's a real concentration of black power as jim clyburn representative clyburn says to me in the film in those six southern states and that was true. even before the civil war south carolina's nickname was negro country because it was so full of black people and that of course was because of the economy and the productivity of rice in the sea islands and the expertise of africans brought to south carolina to go grow rice, but there was all so a sizable free black community now, we know that the ame church is first black denomination and it's formed in philadelphia by richard allen and it's formally um born in year 1860. well in charleston, there is a manual church and in 1822 a man named denmark vesey, as you know was accused of plotting and insurrection in charleston. denmark vesity was free. how did he get free? he got free. i want to suit to listen this because this is one of the ironies of american history and the complexity of slav

the late congressman john lewis of georgia, "carry-on." watch for many of these authors to appear in the near future on book tv. >> on a recent episode of "the joe mobley show podcast," criminal profiler pat brown and her son dave discussed race in america and argued that black lives matter is ignoring the legacy of dr. martin luther king jr. years a portion of the program. >> i live in an area of prince georges county, maryland that is a majority black community, and they started sending me these emails saying, you can join this group. of course i was interested because when you want to go get involved in something, you kind of would like it to be not like an hour away, if you can have it five minutes away. i said, this is great, a walking group, group, all these cool groups. the groups were named african-american something, or sisters with suitcases or yoga is for black girls. and there weren't just one or two, there were dozens of these in my community. so i decided, i'm going to try and sign up for them because this is where i live. i

number one, the georgia klan was organized six miles in stony mountain georgia from where we lived. and every friday afternoon, the klan we hold a rally in a big field across from our house and burn a cross. that of course, implanted in my mind the idea that this was a dangerous group for us, but we were also being intimidated and bullied, and i did not like that. my -- then i became... i had my first very best friend, he was a white boy. and he and i were inseparable until we reached the age of 15. and when we reached the age of 15, his parents told him he could no longer be my friend, and that he, as a white boy, was better than me and therefore he and i could no longer hang out together. he came to me and told me that story, which was amazing. and he felt horrible about it, but he had no basis of not obeying his parents, and that split up. we never had contact again. i became very angry as a result of that, and then engaged in my first protest. on a saturday morning, i'll never forget it, i was in the town of lathonia and went into what's at the time was called a colored bathroom

and i find those south carolina and georgia operations really interesting. one because i don't -- i know enough of about them to be interested in them and not enough about them to, you know, not have anything to learn. i want to get down there and go over the terrain. >> i'm the moderator, i probably shouldn't jump in here, but i'm excited as well. there was some recent archaeological findings from the river about where john lerons was killed there late in the war. unfortunately i think it's still private property, but it would be cool to see that location as well. one of the tragic last deaths of the american revolution. >> that's a reason why i like that one pension deposition. he mentions being discharged just before, right after he was killed. so, yeah, it's a shoutout to john lorens even though he can't hear it. >> and i would say another misconception, i think travis was talking about it. but just not how defined the lines of patriot loyalists and how this -- i talked a little bit about it with john honeyman as far as trying to tease out which side peo

georgia or the carolinas. it protected the caribbean colonies from the rebelling american colonies and kind of created a little bit of a buffer for them. so that's the story. the most briefest of stories about those two colonies. so what with this one? this is the biggest misconception that i found. everything was happening in the north, everything was won in the north. it is because of the north and everything that happened up there that we are-the only reap we won the war. you can see, and thanks to the musical hamilton, more of this misconception is reaching a modern audience. so let's talk about the fact that the southern theater had as much impact as the northern colonies. the politics of boston and new york, they were just one driving force before the start of the war. you have taverns and town halls in charleston and savannah that are having that same influx of revolutionary ideas. and they're adding fuel to that overall idea of let's start this revolution. the politics in the south are largely controll