i have complete confidence in chairman benny thompson and all of the members to really review this in depth and get the answers the american people need. what i am looking at, what we're looking at in the oversight committee is very narrow. it's looking at the presidents, and in this case with these documents, documented efforts to illegally influence the department of justice to overthrow -- i can't even hardly say it it's so horrible -- to overthrow our legal election. >> yep. >> these documents were almost unheard of, reverend, rarely do you get documents that include meetings with the president. these are handwritten contemporaneous documents written by the deputy at the department of justice acting, the president said say that it was corrupt. say it is illegal, and when justice pushed back and said that's wrong, that's not right. we don't have any proof of this, he said do it anyway. just say it, and i'll take care of it. it's almost unheard of. we have scheduled meetings with six representatives of the department of justice next week, and we will peel down to the bottom of this.

you know, select committee chair bennie thompson told us yesterday that, you know, we could expect to see quite a few subpoenas coming out very soon, but the select committee and all of these other investigative committees are still figuring out who exactly they will call to testify. for that matter, who might even be a cooperative witness. >> uh-huh. again, that was a list from "mother jones." let me ask you quickly a couple of names, legislators. kevin mccarthy, paul goesse earth, andy biggs, mo brooks, tommy tuberville. having lawmakers testify would be unprecedented. any sense this might happen, that any members of the gop are willing to testify before this committee? >> well, the committee could certainly try to subpoena some of these lawmakers, but, again, you know, we are getting into somewhat uncharted territory where a committee would actually regard a fellow lawmaker to be, as some of them have called, a material witness to what happened on january 6th. so, yes, certainly there's been some interest in calling people like kevin mccarthy, like jim jordan, both of whom spoke to

bennie thompson told reporters yesterday that his panel would be sending quite a few subpoenas is and will meet with department of justice officials next week. the big question is how will the committee use its subpoena power? and who might be called to testify? in past congressional proceedings like trump's double impeachments, he and allies were unessentially untouchable due to executive privilege. but things got interesting, because biden's department of justice recently sent letters to several trump doj officials including the former acting attorney general jeffery rosen saying the extraordinary events in this matter constitute exceptional circumstances warning an accommodation to congress in this case. it would not be appropriate to assert executive privilege. joining me now barb a ray mcquade a former united states attorney and legal analyst. elizabeth holtzman, a former congresswoman, four-term congresswoman for new york. you might remember her from the sharp work she did on the house judiciary committee during the nixon impeach. ment inquiry. she knows about the congressional

the chairman of the committee, congressman benny thompson told reporters today that the committee will soon be sending subpoenas, as part of their inquiry. that's not the only investigation going on in congress right now, that could shed light on donald trump's efforts to overturn the election. we know another part of the former presidents scheme to overturn the election was centered around the justice department. to wield the power of the doj to somehow swing the results in trump's favor. there were reports that trump considered ousting his attorney general and replacing him with some that would push his claims about election fraud. trump and his chief of staff brought their claims to the doj leadership demanding that the department investigate the fraud to delegitimized lull joe biden's win. just this week we learned just how extensive this pressure campaign was. washington post reported that trump called his acting attorney general jeffrey rosen almost every day about the so-called fraud in the aftermath of the election. the attorney general's top aide took notes about with the form

and bennie thompson told me that that decision will make it easier to get that kind of testimony. now, he's -- it's also undecided what the next hearing is going to be. they have not made that decision yet. they're still trying to figure out staffing issues, so they're still trying to get off the ground and get this investigation going, but it's going to take some time to get through all the information they plan to pore through that investigations that have already happened in various committees and are going to provide them with the information that they have already uncovered, so -- and they want to go through other information as well, so a lot of details that need to sort out, but the big question is, who will be the first ones hit with the subpoenas? according to the chairman, a lot of people will get them, alisyn. >> manu raju, thank you. >>> all right, there's a new marvel infinity war. it's just unleashed. "black widow" star scarlett johansson files a lawsuit against disney over the release of her new movie. so we'll tell you how disney is responding. >>> and join cnn for

first of all, the chair of the january 6th select committee, representative benny thompson, told us anybody who had a conversation with the white house and officials in the white house while the invasion of the capitol was going on is directly in the investigative sights of the committee and i have no reluctance whatsoever in issuing subpoenas for information. so, who could be receiving these perhaps unwanted subpoenas? well, if you want to know what happened in the white house on january 6th, the logical place to start is this guy, the former president, donald trump. will congress want the political circus that goes along with subpoenaing donald trump? we shall see. i think you're also going to want to subpoena mark meadows, chief of staff. jared kushner, senior adviser. we know they were in contact with trump throughout january 6th. also, interestingly, a member of the house himself, a powerful member, kevin mccarthy. we know he had a crucial conversation during january 6th when he asked donald trump to call them off and donald trump lashed out at mccarthy and we learned this week jim jor

the chair of that committee benny thompson has said that they might come back during their august recess to do more business or potentially hold another hearing. jessica dean, cnn, capitol hill. >>> the u.s. space agency nasa says that there was a spacecraft emergency on thursday in low orbit. >> one in the crosshairs. copy. >> a russian space module misfired its thrusters during a maneuver pushing the space station out of position in a kind of tug of war. communications went down for 11 minutes between the ground and the iss. they eventually got things under control. the u.s. and russian space agencies are investigating. but nasa town down played the incident calling it a exciting hour. >>> several states are under thunderstorm and tornado warnings. check out this video of pennsylvania, the person who shot this says that he was at a youth football practice when the weather changed out of nowhere. that is when they saw what appears to be a tornado, though that hasn't been confirmed by the national weather service. joining me now is jean norman. are we going to see more of whatever that w

we have a great chair in benny thompson, forming a really good staff. i think the law is going to be on our side. of course, we had several years of frustration just trying to get what was rightfully do congress out of the trump administration. we know some of these people believe that they can operate with immunity and impunity and above the law. but we will see at this point whether they can continue to get away with it. remember, the house already impeach the former president for inciting violent insurrection. they voted 70 to 42 to convict, him trump beat the constitutional spread. we still convicted him in the court of public opinion in the eyes of history, and now, the question is not who incited it. we know at least one person incited it, but who organized it? who paid for it? how did these networks of domestic violent extremism get together with people inside the corridors of that innermost political establishment to make this happen? how did they do it? why did they do that? are they still out there? we have a strong bipartisan committee with l

i appreciate bennie thompson saying we're not going for any with this statement or compelling them to appear, we're actually going straight to subpoenas here, because we know the doj has our back on this. >> actually, leader mccarthy and i think we have the sound for you, michael, was asked about potentially being subpoenaed, here is what he said. >> is that your position, the conference position, to fight any subpoena that may be issued against republican members including yourself? >> i think that if they had -- the five members, that we the republicans wanted to put up their wanted to go, if it's gonna be a sham, it's not something serious. >> so that's a no, michael? >> kevin, kevin, kevin, kevin. if you had taken this seriously, and actually added five reputable republicans and there are those who serve in that body at least two of them are currently on the committee, if you had taken this seriously, you're probably would have a different posture, but you didn't. kevin as just doing what kevin does here. i think juanita is exactly right. democrats don't need to put a lot of hope

and i appreciate bennie thompson saying, oh, we're not going for any written statements or compelling them to appear, we're going straight to subpoenas here because we know the doj has our back on this. >> leader mccarthy, i think we've got this sound for you, michael, was asked about potentially being subpoenaed. here is what he said. >> reporter: is it your position, the conference's position, to fight any subpoenas that may be issued against republican members including yourself? >> i think if they had, uh, the five members that, uh, we, the republicans, want to put on there, we would gladly go. but this is going to be the dccc. we see it as a sham, it's not serious. >> i get that's a no, michael? >> kevin, kevin, kevin. kevin. if you had taken this seriously and actually added five reputable republicans, and there are those who serve in that body, at least two of them are currently on the committee, if you had taken it seriously, you would probably have a different posture, but you didn't. kevin is just doing what kevin does here. you know, i think juanita is exactly right, democr

thompson along with the incredible members, my colleagues who are there. and i'm sure that they're going to be spending quite a bit of time ascertaining what is the correct subpoenas, correct witnesses, correct documents to get. i wouldn't want to impose my opinion on the work that they're doing to determine who and what material they should get. >> incredibly -- >> but i can -- i could believe that there may in fact be members of congress who are material witnesses to that day. >> i was going to say, incredibly disciplined of you. well, today we learned that kevin mccarthy attempted to make a connection between the security breach of january 6th and the kavanaugh protests in 2018. how do you make sense of that latest attack? >> well, you can't make sense out of stuff that isn't sense. right? mccarthy is stretching incredulity each and every time he speaks. listen, just a couple of weeks ago he said there was no insurrection, that there was no riot. and now he's saying there is a riot and the person to blame is nancy pelosi. we know that speaker pelosi doe

>> look, if you listen to the chairman bennie thompson and the republican liz cheney, they talk about everybody. first they want to build this minute by minute log. who called into the white house at what time? what was the president doing? to me the key player -- you know mark meadows, former president of chief of staff, will say no. if they ask trump to come in person is likely to say no. there may be a part of trump that tries to at least leans in, sure i'll play, then he pulls back. to me the attorney general at the time jeffrey rosen is going to be critical here. if he and other officials at the justice department or the pentagon are willing to supply a time line and their own personal recollections of who called them asking for help, what was the response at the white house? were they slow walked by the white house? and all indications are that rosen wants to testify. do not be surprised if secretary esper, the defense secretary at the time gets called into this. i think there are people who are not kool-aid drinking trump people who are absolutely critical to this. >> the washi

but select committee chairman, bennie thompson, told us on this program last night that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and to program last night that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and prompted the january 6th attackd the lies about election fraud. the narrative of a stolen election. the fantasy that donald trump's election loss could be nati overturned. that all needs to be investigated by this select committee.ed but that is not just stuff that happened before january 6th. as far as a false narrative about the 2020 election that is inciting people to violence or potential violence, we're all eo living in an active crime scene right now. this is ongoing. take the so-called audit that arizona republicans have been go conducting of the 2020 election results in maricopa county, arizona. the one being run by the cyber ninjas guy who is a qanon stop-the-steal conspiracy theory rift. where they have been running through ballots. they have been taking the ballots and running them under ultra violet light looking for bamboo fibers becau

we don't know who will be getting subpoenas from that committee, but benny thompson told us, on this program last night, that those subpoenas are going out soon. in terms of what led to and prompted the january 6th attack? the lies about election fraud, the narrative of a stolen election, the fantasy that donald trump's election loss could be overturned, that needs to be investigated by the select committee. but that is not just stuff that happened before january 6th. as far as a false narrative about the 2020 election that is inciting people to violence or potential violence, we're all living in an active crime scene right now. this is ongoing. take the so-called audit that arizona republicans have been conducting of the 2020 election results, in maricopa county, and arizona, the cyber ninjas guy, who is a qanon -- under ultraviolet via light. looking for bamboo fibers because maybe the ballots were secretly said to a merica from east asia. today, the guy who had been overseeing the audit for the arizona republicans quit after being walked out, that is -- he was actually physically

house committee chairman, bennie thompson, said that subpoenas will be issued, soon. what kind of power does the committee have to, actually, get people to talk? i mean, obviously, you know, as you know well, there was a two-year legal battle, former white house counsel don mcgahn to testify about the russia investigation. >> indeed, anderson. when i was impeachment co-counsel, i helped draft that mcgahn subpoena. um, the -- the house does have the power to compel testimony. when you and i were kids, there was a tv show about the -- the mounties, the canadian mounties. and the motto was they always get their man. well, update that. they always get their man or woman. the same thing with the house of representatives, but it can be delayed through court proceedings. here, i think, it's going to move faster because doj is not going to fight it. >> norm eisen, appreciate it. thanks. we should mention we invited congressman brooks on his program and through his office, he die dee cliented. >>> next, more breaking news. the bipartisan infrastructure bill clears its first, b

the chairman of the committee, bennie thompson was part of the lawsuit but had to drop out so he could continue to chair this committee. juan: we want to make sure that there was no real conflict of interest. the force of this commission is profound. they can file subpoenas. if this was a foreign terrorist act, we would have had a commission already established and we would be getting to the bottom of this. we would be declaring war in some cases, against those involved and to make sure it never happened again. domestically, we must do the same. we must investigate and allow that investigation to take us where it leads us and hold all individuals accountable to make sure we root out this type of treasonous activity. we cannot promote ourselves to be the leaders of democracy in the world, if we are doing domestically this type of harm in our existence, whether it is changing the rules around voting in texas or georgia, whether it is trying to identify who should be considered legitimate citizens or not. more importantly, if there is a scenario where in this case, people are committing a

i also think that nancy pelosi especially and bennie thompson, they both want to make sure this isn't seen as some kind of political farce. that is something they are working very hard to make sure isn't a legitimate attack on what they're doing. that's why they started with these four officers. start with that emotional apea. don't try to go after one of the trump administration officials. go with that emotional appeal. go with and set the stage for what actually happened because a lot of us have been reading all types of testimony. a lot of us have heard from some of the leadership of that day. but this is the first time we really heard from officers who almost got their eyes gouged out, that one tried to come on their side, all of these kinds of things. i think something that moving forward what democrats and liz cheney and adam kinzinger want to do is make sure that they try to stay focused, put on the blinders and try as much as they can to keep the politics out of it. however, i will say we did a playbook event earlier this year with shawn patrick maloney, and he said, even thou

the one question that bennie thompson has kept off the table. my hunch is the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys to protect suswhat did they do last summer? they talk about defunding the police. they raise money to bail out rioters that attack police. when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people that attack police, it's tough to call out more of them to protect yourself on january 6. they're not going to address that question. they're going after president trump. >> trace: the democratic national committee pushing back against minority leader mccarthy and you saying the allies are slapping these capitol hill police officers in the face by making these comments. your thoughts. >> not at all. if i would have been there yesterday, leader mccarthy wanted me there but pelosi said no. i said you deserve to have the help here so this didn't happen to you. you deserve that. the only person that can answer why you didn't have the help you needed is the speaker of the us house of representatives. th

>> the chairman of the committee benny thompson told me they will issue subpoenas soon. they're not going to go through the voluntary letter writing effort common in past investigations. instead, they're going straight to subpoenas. i asked congresswoman liz cheney if she's concerned about the possibility of litigation if they issued subpoenas. >> yesterday you said you would like to see every trump white house communication around january 6th. are you worried this could be hard to accomplish given the way they have fought subpoenas in the past? >> i think we absolutely have got to make sure that we get to every piece of information that matters. i think the speaker has been very clear and the chairman that we're going to issue subpoenas quickly, that we're going to enforce those subpoenas. i think we've got to make sure we follow the facts where they l lead. >> reporter: after yesterday's hearing, they heard testimony from police officers who defended the capitol, their accounts of everything they went through. there could be aer hearing as sn as august. that's what's e

those are decisions she's leaving to the committee's chairman bennie thompson and its members. you heard the detail that the committee would like to get from the white house from that day. they are still hiring staff. they haven't exactly decided how they will proceed although thompson told me yesterday that he does -- he has put the committee members on standby to potentially come back to washington for another hearing during what's supposed to be a seven-week recess starting next week. they know they have a lot of work to do, but no specific time on how they'll approach it. >> let's talk about infrastructure. give me the temperature today. senator schumer is saying the senate could vote tonight to from seed with that bipartisan infrastructure package. >> it looks like our month's long infrastructure week may be approaching its conclusion. that bipartisan group has just come out within the last few minutes and said they are, in fact, very comfortable that they have a deal that will stick and they only have what they describe as the smallest of details to work out and they are

listen to the chairman benny thompson. he wants a minute-by-minute accounting of what happened inside the trump white house as the rioters tried to overthrow the american government. >> nothing is off limits in this investigation. we are absolutely committed to getting to the bottom of what happened. as you know, i have subpoena power.reluctance whatsoever in issuing subpoenas for information, telephone logs to the white house, especially during the times of january 6th. >> does the committee have a plan? first you ask politely. we expect the answer from team trump will be no, if not stronger than that. then you use subpoenas. then you end up in court. how fast? >> yesterday thompson said they're going to skip the first step, the ask politely step. they're straight to subpoenas here. that is significant and shows they don't want to waste any time. seven months past the insurrection, they know they have to move to get the answers they want. a minute-by-minute accounting, that's going to be tough to come by the you drag your

thompson says the panel who soon send subpoenas. this comes after an emotional day of testimony at the committee's first public hearing, police officers at the capitol recounting the horrific violence they faced defending it. joining me is democratic congressman pete aguillar, a member of the select committee investigating the insurrection. congressman, thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks for having me, poppy. >> let's start with the subpoenas, bennie thompson, congresswoman cheney explained why they want to do it, gets things done a lot more quickly. my question to you then is when should we expect the first round of subpoenas to go out and can you give us some insight into who they'll be going to? >> i'll let the chairman speak for our plan and our agenda, the members will likely be hunding soon to talk about that. the chairman has been very clear this is something that's going to happen. we're going to be guided by the truth. first we'll continue to review the testimony of the four officers, as you mentioned, incredib

they said that they were busy and in meetings, but committee chair benny thompson said he believes the testimony set the right tone for their work ahead. he warned the panel could start issuing subpoenas soon, and the role of the trump white house during the events on january 6th is of high interest. >> telling the truth shouldn't be hard. >> reporter: palpable pain. >> i could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die. >> reporter: and emotion. >> the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. >> reporter: from four officers who held the line. >> what were you fighting for that day? >> democracy. >> reporter: one by one they described their experiences january 6th in excruciating detail. >> bashed me in the head and face, rupturing my lip and adding additional injury to my skull. >> reporter: michael fanone suffered a heart attack and traumatic brain injury. >> i was grabbed, beaten, tased, all while being called a traitor to my country. i was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm. >> reporter: and u.s. capitol

i work with bennie thompson. he's a solid thoughtful guy. we may disagree on a few things, but he's a solid thoughtful guy who is going to try to do this right. if it comes off too political, they go for trump first, they beat members head and shoulders up front, it takes away from the seriousness of the committee. >> that's an interesting point. certainly worth consideration. let me get your reaction to what we heard from republican congressman adam kinzinger. he was asked about a move by the freedom caucus, republicans that tried to get his and liz cheney's committee assignments stripped just for saying yes to being on this committee. here he was. >> and if people want to get petty, that's fine. i think that reflects more on people than it does on the situation at hand. this is a historic moment, and this is a democracy-defending moment. no matter the consequence -- me and i know liz will stand to defend democracy. >> you can hear and see the emotion in his voice. what do you make of it? >> there are matters of conscience for members of co

>> reporter: we've got some clues to that from the members of this committee yesterday, bennie thompson, the chairman told me he's put the committee members on notice they may have to come back during what's supposed to be a seven-week summer recess for another hearing. as for what that hearing would entail, that's an open question. liz cheney has said she wants to get to the bottom of everything that happened in every minute during that day. over at the white house, that suggests you're going to need subpoenas and a lot more research and digging. there's also the possibility of other witnesses from within the capitol community itself. cheney has will described jim jordan as a potential material witness to what happened on the 6th. he told fox news yesterday that he had in fact spoken to president trump during that day, possibly putting a bigger target around him for what he might have known about what was going on that day. so all of that is to say the committee still has to figure out exactly which direction they want to go next, but they understand they have to do it likely sooner th

. >> reporter: this morning committee chairman bennie thompson says he expects the first wave of subpoenas to be issued soon, and the justice department has now sen letters to six officials who worked in the trump justice department telling them they can participate in the committee's investigation. congressman adam schiff says a decision to subpoena former president trump could come, quote, down the line as the panel follows the evidence, and congresswoman liz cheney, one of two republicans on the committee, saying this during the hearing. >> we must also know what happened every minute of that day in the white house, every phone call, every conversation, every meeting leading up to, during and after the attack. >> reporter: and the committee has not set a date for its next hearing. however, the chairman of the committee is hinting it could come late august. mona. ub m case says theou.>>the man n state did not do enough to find the real killer. nathaniel rowland made the comment shortly after he was convicted for the 2019 attack of university of south carolina student samantha josephson.

and bennie thompson, one of his opening statements is no questions about pelosi. pelosi was asked to get national guard and extra police six times and she denied at all. why? why did she not want to police there? it's like she wanted something to happen to make all trump people look bad. i voted for trump, i voted for trump twice and i'm going to vote for him a third time. it is just so hypocritical. they don't want to bring nothing about all the violence, all the burning, all the killing, looting, nothing that's happened in the summertime time of last year and it's happening now. look at the people -- crimes in the streets. host: let me ask you something about the testimony yesterday. did you learn anything from listening to those police officers? caller: yeah. being a police is not -- what do you call it -- it's not an admired profession. it don't matter if it's on the left or the right. seems like men and women in blue are victimized. they are demoralized and being a policeman is rough. they don't just stand there protecting people. they do all kinds of things.

chairman bennie thompson, thank you so much for being with us. we greatly appreciate it, and of course we greatly appreciate your service to america, and trying to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th. claire mccaskill, what was your take away from yesterday? what questions do you want answered primarily? >> well, i think the focus on who funded some of this, where'd the money come from, were all of these people there on their own dime or was there any effort from any groups to coordinate with the white house to build this into the riotous angry mob that it took. i think liz cheney is going to be masterful, get that tictoc so american understands that donald trump was enjoying this. he liked it. he thought it was terrific. these people were breaking down doors in the capitol. he could have, at that moment, he saw every bit of it on television. he was sitting in his little dining room, that's right off the oval office, watching a bank of television, and people were coming in and out begging him to take actionio what this committee nee

chairman bennie thompson is planning to subpoena more people to testify for this -- in front of this committee. although he won't say who. we have an idea of maybe he will call on kevin mccarthy, there is other people that we know, other ex-trump officials that we expect they might call, but he won't give any hints as to who he might call. but beinlook, he also said that plans to meet with attorney general merrick garland about possibly getting additional data to go to the committee. so a lot of steps that they are taking right now. so this is only on the beginning. but i think that it is really important for us to listen to some of the testimony from these police officers, these four police officer, who were on the front lines that day. it is really emotional, really hard to listen to. >> as my physical injuries gradually subsided in the adrenalin that had stayed with me beened, i've been left with the psychological trauma and emotional anxiety of having survived such a horrific event. and my children ten to deal with the trauma of nearly losing their dad that day. >> i heard office

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. >> i want to talk about chairman bennie thompson saying that subpoenas are coming soon, laura. this is right up your alley here. liz cheney said they should be issued quickly. the justice department is saying former doj officials can testify. the department won't assert executive privilege. so which top officials are likely to be among the first called? you think the president should be called or will be called? the former president? >> i think he should be called. i think jeffrey rosen. i think others. remember, the executive privilege in terms of what the doj members would have to assert or be able to no longer have to assert -- so the notion here and why this is such a significant thing is, remember, you're saying in order to have transparency, in order to have a full, holistic investigation, i have to remove the hurdles of people saying, i don't care what you want to hear. i don't have to tell you anything. that does not bode well on the integrity of the department if there's no real basis for it. but also it's a hurdle that now is being overcome by the decision to say, you

the chairman bennie thompson who says the committee will issue subpoenas soon without resorting to writing letters asking for voluntary information says we cannot let the liars and cheaters win. >> we did not ask for this. for the house of representatives did its job to give this country its first peaceful transfer of power. and we'll do our job now to make sure the peaceful transfer of power remains a pillar of our democracy. we cannot allow ourselves to be undone by liars and cheaters. >> liz cheney, one of two republicans on the committee, says that we need to know the truth about every meeting, every conversation, every phone call leading up to and during the attack. >> we must know what happened here at the capitol. we must also know what happened every minute of that day in the white house. every phone call, every conversation, every meeting leading up to, during and after the attack. honorable men and women have an obligation to step forward. >> you will hear more from liz cheney a little bit later on in this show as well as from other republicans on the committee or the other repub

>> benny thompson didn't want to approve the election in 2005 and he is leading this commission. every republican resident in this century was challenged and questioned by democrats the same way we did on january 6th. >> hold on a second. i don't remember house democrats standing up and saying we refuse to certify this presidential election. remind me when that happened? >> well, i don't know we stood up and refused to certify the election. we wanted to look at the constitutionality of the voting process in several states like pennsylvania, georgia, and arizona. >> they'd all been looked at by members of your own party. >> there was 150 million people voted. if you take arizona, georgia, and wisconsin those three states were decided by 42,000 votes, a mere fraction. so you don't have to have widespread fraud to change the outcome. we wanted to look at the constitutionality because ballots were being cured. there wasn't the appropriate transparency. atlanta cleared the voting facility because of a water main break that turned out to be a urinal overflow. so there was a lot of thin

thompson. i know today is along a busy one for you and it continues so we appreciate some of your time. the testimony of those officers laid waste to the criticism we've been hearing literally since january six that there's no need for investigation into this and while we were all under threat they face the battery and the medieval battle that took place. what did you learn today? >> well first allie, thank you for having me. let me tell you that we now know that there are heroes of january six. it was a rank and file law enforcement officers of the metropolitan police department, counter police as well as the other departments who came and helped defend this capitol from the rioters. they are the real heroes and part of what we wanted to do today was to get all they experienced on the record and what they had to endure on january 6th and also on your last limb, what is it they would like us to do? i think the four clips you heard from the witnesses say it all. we want to know who facilitated i

. >> i want to talk about chairman benny thompson saying subpoenas are coming soon, laura, this is right up your ally here. liz cheney said they should be issued quickly and the justice department is saying former d.o.j. officials can testify, the department will not assert executive privilege. which top officials will be among the first called? could it be the president should be called or will be called? >> i think -- >> the former president. >> i think he should be called and jeffrey are rosen. what the dorj .o.j. would have assert, is why it's a significant thing, remember, you are saying, in order to have transparency and a full investigation, i have to premove the hurdles and people saying i don't care what uyou want to hear, i don't have to tell you. that hurdle is being over come, saying you can speak freely about what it is that you know about the es. if you know the who, what, when, where, why, the paper trail, if you know something different than what your oath of office should have been or otherwise, lets us know. it's a level of transparency that we need here. >> give me a b

. >> that's why last week i calle on the chairman of this committee, bennie thompson to bring the head of the capitol police union. i thought democrats were prounion, in this case, they refused to hear from the capito police union chief who would have come before this committee and spoke on behalf of every single rank and file member of the united states capitol police , he shows up every day to protect me, to protect my staff to protect my family when they are on capitol hill and he would've provided a different perspective than what these fou police officers provided today. he would have told the members of congress and the american people if he was allowed to testify that on january 6, they weren't prepared for what was going to happen that day even though they had intelligence reports provided to the highest levels of the capitol police three weeks before january 6 that something dangerous was going to happen. they weren't trained for what was going to happen that day an they weren't equipped for what was going to happen that day. in fact, he said the rioters ha better equipment th

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as one member who was among the last to be evacuated, i applaud chair bennie thompson and the members for their work investigating fully to uncover the full truth of the savage brutality to which our nation and constitution were subjected and those who are sworn to uphold the law. let the facts lead our country to a judgment brought about through justice, not mob rule. thank you and i yield back my remaining time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> unanimous consent to address the body for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, today i rise to honor the santa ana high school debate team and their coach. they won the national high school division speech championship, they took first place and they won the school of excellence award. more than 1,400 schools across the country competed at the national speech and debate association. this is the largest speech and debate tournament in the nation. and santa ana high school took first place. this is a hu

thompson indicated they are likely to come back for that but the decision on the topic of that hearing has not been decided and thompson said there would be subpoenas that issued quote soon because he said the idea of asking for information voluntarily sending letters asking information, that's not necessarily the road they will go down on all document requests. instead, they plan to issue subpoenas that and that's something liz cheney said should happen quickly. there is a push to happen quickly and belief this could happen quickly after earlier today the justice department signalled it would not assert executive privilege to prevent former trump officials from testifying before this house committee. now, that is one area, too, in which the democrats and the republicans want to pursue cheney made that clear today, erin, that they do want to look into all the communications that occurred in the runup to january 6th with the trump white house. she said it was key to the investigation but first, they have to understand other areas, as well, the breakdown in intelligence, the failure to c

this hour, i'll speak with the chairman of the january 6 select committee, congressman benny thompson. the insurrection hearing revealed never before seen video of police holding the line against rioters. we're putting together all the chilling images. standby for that. and the cdc is now urging many vaccinated americans to go back to wearing masks indoors as president biden is on the brink of new vaccine mandates for federal workers. i'll discuss it all. with the u.s. surgeon general. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with an emotional and very powerful testimony about the capitol riot. let's go to our congressional correspondent ryan nobles. ryan, these officers shared graphic details of the horrors they faced on january 6th and the consequences. >> no doubt about that, wolf. this explosive hearing shocked many of us who thought we had learned so much about the capitol insurrection already. even the members of congress asking the questions seem surprised at the serious risk against their

but i don't think -- bennie thompson, the chairman of this committee said everything is on the table until we raise this issue about the speaker's office is the one who knows what the security posture and why it was the way it was. once we raise that question, well, everything is on the table except that question. again, that's why i think we were kicked off the committee which i think underscores how political this thing actually is and i would argue this: the main reason democrats want to keep talking about january 6th, because what the heck else are they going to talk about, bret? are they going to talk about the 12 murders in chicago last week? are they going to talk about the price of services and good up for everything? are they going to talk about the fact ourward, we had a record number of illegal crossings in march until april and then we had a record number april until may. record number in may until june. that is aan t't any of that stuff. focus on what they always do attack the former president. >> bret: always things we are covering extensively here. finally you heard th

potential subpoenas coming soon according to the chairman bennie thompson. he told me they want to move quickly on this, potentially a second hearing could occur in august. jake? >> all right, manu, thank you so much. and joining me now for her first national interview since today's hearing is republican congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming who's one of two republicans serving on the january 6th select committee. congresswoman, good to see you, thanks so much for joining us. what did you think was the most important part of today's testimony? >> well, thank you, jake. it's good to be with you. i thought the most important part was the opportunity for the american people to hear directly from these heroes, these men who fought for us for them to hear first-hand accounts, to see footage that we hadn't seen before in some cases of exactly what they faced that day. the fact that these officers, particularly those on the west front were fighting to the death, and they had said that they, frankly, understood that they might die. and to hear, you know, the rioters a

potential subpoenas coming soon according to the chairman bennie thompson. he told me they want to move quickly on this, potentially a second hearing could occur in august. jake? >> all right, manu, thank you so much. and joining me now for her first national interview since today's hearing is republican congresswoma