so, this is damaging in many ways to arizona. and it is unfortunate that the folks running the show continue to try to drag it out for their political goals. >> well would you advise the house oversight committee in washington in their investigation of this, what you call me fraudit? what should they be looking for and asking about? >> i think all the things that they highlighted in their letter it all of the right points. and the points that we have been making for months about all the problems associated with this exercise. i welcome their voices and their intervention into this fight. quite frankly, our offices here concerns from voters every single day over this exercise. and they are tired of these partisan games. that is why i am running for governor to get to work on real issues and problems that we have here in arizona. not rehashing the 2020 election. and folks can join me in that katie hobbs.org. >> let me ask you about that. your secretary of state, now. you are directly involved in elections election security. wouldn'

a similar criminal investigation might be underway tonight in arizona. if only lifelong republican had decided to answer his phone. the arizona republican reports then president donald trump try to speak directly with the chair of the maricopa county board of supervisors in the weeks after the november 2020 election as his allies sought to change the election results in a state he narrowly lost to democrat joe biden. donald trump called lifelong republican clinic man twice, they're a white house operator. it's reported his phone rang 8:30 pm on new year's eve, while he was on a date with his wife and friends in north central phoenix. he didn't recognize the number of carrying washington d.c.'s area code and let me go to voice mail. hickman quickly listen to the message. white house switchboard wanted him to call back so he could talk to the president, he recalled in an interview with the arizona republic. hickman did not return the call and later deleted that voice mail, he said. three days later, news broke of trump's january 2nd phone call with georgia

the arizona republic reports hickman's phone rang about 8:30 p.m. on new year's eve while he was on a date with his wife and friends in north central phoenix. he didn't recognize the number carrying washington d.c.'s area code and let it go to voice mail. hickman quickly listened to the message. the white house switchboard wanted him to call back so he could talk to the president he called in an interview with the arizona republic. hickman did not return the call and later deleted the voice mail. trump encouraged him to find enough votes to reverse trump's narrow loss there. hickman recalled listening to the leaked audio of that hour-long phone call after "the washington post" and other media outlets published the recording. i was horrified, hickman said. that same night at 9:22 p.m. approaching midnight in washington, his phone buzzed again. it was the same area code. he let it go to voice mail again. here is that voicemail from the white house operator on january 3rd. >> hello, sir, this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know t

that's apparently unique to arizona. and so they're asking now the people running it are saying, oh, we don't have enough time to finish, we need more time, and we need more information. they were handed all of the ballots. what more information could they possibly want? >> well, i think they're trying to make it look like maricopa county has not been cooperative with them, which is absolutely not the case. they're trying to make it look like there are potentially incomplete results because of this. but the bottom line is they're just continuing to try to drag this out so that they can continue to sow doubts all the way into the 2022 and 2024 elections. >> arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> we're joined now by colorado's secretary of state, jena griswold, the chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state. secretary griswold, this case in your state in colorado, federal judges handling saying not one iota of evidence of any kind of election f

aywhat's happening in arizona were the fixed audit is taking place? officials and arizona slammed. it are republicans in pennsylvania going to copy arizona and do the same? >> they're trying to do that in pennsylvania and my colleagues in the caucus are taking every step we can to prevent them from continuing to put on this charade. we are fighting hard, to make certain our colleagues, senator mastery on who's the leader of this group doesn't get the opportunity to do audits and we are working closely with our department and state as well as our attorney general, the governor's administration to prevent it from being able to conduct one of these audits. it doesn't have the authority. they sell the news committee, was not used for this purpose. to conduct audits along those lines. we simply think it's the wrong thing to do and we will continue to fight it. >> is joe biden, is a democratic president of the united states, your party leader, the federal government doing enough to help democrats like yourself in swing states like pennsylvania where republicans are in the majority in the

what is happening in arizona, the fake audit is mad, it's ridiculous, local election officials in arizona have slammed it. are republicans in pennsylvania really going to copy arizona and do the same? >> they're trying to do that here in pennsylvania. and my colleagues in the senate democratic caucus are taking every step that we can to prevent them from continuing to put on this charade. we're fighting hard to make certain that our colleague, senator mastriano, doesn't get the opportunity to do audits. we're working closely with the attorney general and the governor's administration to prevent him from being able to conduct one of these audits. he doesn't have the authority because of a chairmanship of a seldom-used committee, certainly not used for this purpose, to conduct audits along these lines. we think it's the wrong thing to do, obviously, and we're going to continue to fight it. >> is joe biden, is the democratic president of the united states, your party leader, is the federal government, doing enough to help democrats like yourself in swing states like pennsylvania where republ

for example, sham election audits like the ones still taking place in arizona. the brennan center for justice reports that similar partisan reviews are now taking place or being proposed in wisconsin, in michigan, in georgia, and in pennsylvania. quote, the proposed election reviews failed to satisfy basic security, accuracy, and reliability measures and the auditors themselves fail to meet

[applause] >> arizona state representative kyrsten sinema gets tonight's last word. perhaps senator kyrsten sinema might listen to her. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> and good evening once again. they 162 of the biden administration and indeed nbc news reporting tonight the manhattan da's office and the new york attorney generals office together have obtained indictments against the trump organization and its longtime cfo, allen weisselberg. as expected, the charges said to be tax related and are expected to be unsealed in court tomorrow in manhattan. washington post was first to report the news tonight, the paper adds this. weisselberg is expected to surrender thursday morning at the office of manhattan da cyrus vance. he's expected to be arraigned later today in front of a state court judge. the trump organization will also be arraigned, represented in court by one of its attorneys. weisselberg has reportedly been under pressure to cooperate with prosecutors and flip on one donald trump. the investigations of course continue. -- also today,

audits, recounts are conducted in arizona, wisconsin. in georgia it was recounted three times. it's clear. for those who challenge the results and question the integrity of the election, no other election has ever been held under such scrutiny and such high standards. the big lie is just that, a big lie. [ applause ] >> the president repeatedly focused on what he called election subversion. the most dangerous threat to the integrity of our elections in our history. >> it's no longer just about who gets to vote or making it easier for eligible voters to vote. it's about who gets to count the vote. who gets to count whether or not your vote counted at all. it's about moving from independent election administrators who work for the people to polarized state legislatures and partisan actors who work for political parties. to me this is simple. this is election subversion. it's the most dangerous threat to voting in the integrity of free and fair elections in our history. >> leading off our discussion tonight are texas state representatives alex domingez and julie johnson, both atte

no one's been convicted no, votes in arizona were counted twice. but republicans in the state are still after three months carrying out a fake fraudit in maricopa county. it has not ended. they don't know better. you can knock down their election conspiracies over and over and over again, even in a court of law, as has been done, and they'll still tell you that there is fraud. it is embarrassing. it is shameful. republicans used to be afraid of shame but do the entire gop stays quiet part out loud, shame be damned. it's why similar idiotic fake audits are being attempted in other states like pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. they want to subvert the will of the people to stay in power. i'd like to wait for republicans to wake up and do the right thing, but that isn't going to happen. they don't know better, mr. president. what they do know is that their efforts to keep voting safe are working. they're not keeping voting safe, they're just working to keep people away from ballots. more people in more states are going to find it harder to vote b

no one has been convicted, no votes in arizona were vote counted twice. but republicans in the state, still after these months, are carrying on this fraud in maricopa county. they don't know better. you can knock down their election conspiracies over again even in the court of law and it will still tell you that there is fraud. it is embarrassing, it is shameful. republicans used to be afraid of shame, but now the entire gop says the quiet part out loud, shame be damned. it's why similar idiotic -- and wisconsin. they want to subvert the will of the people to stay in power. i'd like to wait for republicans to wake up and do the right, thing but that is not going to happen, they don't know better, mister president. but they do know is that their efforts to keep voting safe are working. not keeping voting safe, they're just working to keep people away from ballots. more people in more states are gonna find it harder to vote the next time they go to the polls because of voter security efforts by the gop. and those people are, by and, large people of color, s

second year of the obama presidency, when she was a 33-year-old member of the state legislature in arizona, she accurately described how dysfunctional the senate had become because of what she called the false pressure to get to 60 votes. >> the senate, we no longer have 60 votes. some would argue that we never had 60. one of those was joseph lieberman. whatever. and nelson, too. now, i think it's the president. on wednesday, none of this pressure, the false pressure to get to 60. what that means is that, the democrats can stop kowtowing to joe lieberman and seek other avenues to health reform. it's likely a process called reconciliation. and you may recall before the democrats took the senate in 2008, that the republicans controlled the senate for quite some time, since around 1994. they never had 60 votes and they managed to do really bad things during that time. so, the reconciliation process is still quite available and we will use it for good, rather than for evil. >> arizona state representative sinema gets tonight's last word. maybe senator sinema might listen to her. >>> the 11th h

or the latinx vote is growing in a state like arizona. and so, all of this stuff is coinciding with the democratic shifts. demographics aren't destiny in terms of democrats winning elections. because they attract those voters if those voters do not have access to the ballot box those voters gave the democrats the majority in the senate and it would be a shame for those democrats are protect those ballots for the same committees. >> none of the voting rights bill that have been considered by the congress include any provisions about how the votes are counted, which is one of the new threats to voting rights and the new georgia law has, the texas law had it there and then they took it out. but there is this whole republican attempt to change what happens after votes are cast did. this is part of the new negotiation that the democrats are working on now. let's listen to what senator manchin said about that. let's listen to wh at senator manchin said about>> i've told e bottom line is that we should basically dedicate ourselves to a voting pi

you are the soldiers who are fighting for everybody, not just for texas but for arizona, your fighting for all of the states where they are passing these laws to suppress the vote. you are standing up for the ideals and the dreams of what america is and what america should be. >> joining us now is dolores huerta civil rights activists and labor reader, she is the cofounder of the united farmers of america. they did that in 1962, but dolores, i'm not meaning to say anything about your age on tv, it's impolite, my mother would be very crossed. you started the agricultural workers association in 1960. you have been working on this stuff since 1955. this fight, you know, when you tell these people that this is more serious than it was in the sixties, you are there at the front lines of civil rights fights in the 19 fifties, in the 19 sixties, 19 seventies, 19 eighties, 19 nineties. it hasn't stopped for. you >> know it hasn't, and way back in the fifties, actually, in california we passed the laws that people could vote in the spanish line language, and that anybody who was a citizen could

the soldiers were fighting for everybody, not just for texas, but fighting for arizona, fighting for all of those states where they are passing these laws to suppress the vote. standing up to the ideals and dreams of what america is and what america should be. >> joining us now dolores huerta civil rights activist and labor leader and co-founder with cesar chavez in 1962, dolores, not meaning to say anything about your age on tv, it's impolite, you started the agriculture a association since 1960 and been working on this since 1955 you were there at the frontlines of the civil rights fights in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 90s. it's never stopped for you. >> no, it hasn't. way back in the 50s actually in california we passed a law that people could vote in a spanish language and not only that got rid of the deputy registrars so anyone who is a citizen can register another person to vote. in california we have some of the most liberal voting rights, people can vote online, and they can register with their cellphones or computers. when you go to the dmv to get your driver's license you're auto

if republicans had had that kind of power, political power in georgia, in other places, you know, arizona -- name your state, pennsylvania, these key battleground states, donald trump could have been successful in stealing this election. and a lot of these laws, most of them have provisions that would make that kind of change. and i think it's under the category now, lawrence, of they call it election subversion. that's what the new category of negotiation is all about, and i think it's ball game. i think republicans understand that if they control the counting rooms and the counting process, that is the way in which they can systematically undermine democracy in the most profound way. we saw it on display, the threat of it in 2020. i think if any bill that democrats take up in the senate or in the house or in congress over these coming months, if it doesn't address that issue, it misses the point. >> the for the people act was written last year. it was written before the election, long before we saw these new republican legislative proposals. and, zerlina, we see a report in the "atlanta

this one in arizona has been going on since february. and these fraud-its must be stopped. these are extraordinarily dangerous for democracy if it's heads we win tails you lose. which is a republican position right now. they will protest the results of any election that they don't win. and that must be dealt with legislatively. so hr-1 must be amended to include warnock's provisions and perhaps other ones. also, democrats need to go on offense on this and not just be playing defense. so my feeling is that when the human infrastructure bill comes to the floor, the one they're going to push through with 50 votes, and reconciliation, because election equipment has been declared critical infrastructure by the department of homeland security, they should have a provision that says that any state that wants any of that money for that critical infrastructure to upgrade their election systems must provide no excuses absentee ballots at a minimum so that they don't curtail people's right to vote by mail-in ballot if they choose. >> sorry, we're out of town on this segment. thank you

the court upheld two voting restrictions in arizona. one requiring ballots cast in the wrong precinct to be thrown out. and the other, limiting who could collect and deliver ballots to polling sites. last year, the 9th circuit court of appeals ruled the laws violated the voting rights act because they disproportionately impacted minority voters. but today, justice samuel alito argued that the laws did not place burden on minority voters that would prevent them from voting. quote, the mere fact that there is some disparity in impact does not necessarily mean that a system is not equally open or that it does not give everyone an equal opportunity to vote. in a scathing dissent, justice elena kagan, accused the conservative majority of rewriting the law, beyond what congress had intended. what is tragic here is that the court has, yet again, rewritten, in order to weaken a statute that stands as a monument to america's greatness and protects against its basest impulses. election law expert and professor of law and political science at univ

to the ballot are now gaining momentum, following the recent ruling that upheld new election laws in arizona, and the success of senate republicans in blocking federal voting rights legislation, now leaders of civil rights groups or stepping up pressure on the white house. late today they met president biden and harris in a private session, the layout of what they plan to do to safeguard the right to vote. >> democracy is under vigorous, vicious and sinister attack. beginning with the events of january 6th at the capitol, and cascading like a tsunami through state legislatures across the country. >> we are going to build a movement across this country to resist that. what is clearly a move to try

con disappears co that siemian siemian i will write a written statement to a arizona newspaper, senator referring to the other track of infrastructure legislation the democrats-only bill that will go through reconciliation. she said about that, i do not support a bill that costs $3.5 billion. $3.5 billion. support a bill that costs $3.5 trillion. that's odd because all democrats had a celebration with president biden when that $3.5 billion deal was agreed to by the senate budget committee members what's your reaction to what certainty cinema had to say. >> we find the senator to be thoughtful and very deliberate about what she's doing. also this is the legislative process, the sausage-making process, so a lot of times people will make their positions known but that's why it is called legislating. i think what president biden is doing is showing the real art of making the deal. and so, yes, we read the statement. we take the certainty at her word but this is her word but this is we take the senator at her word but it is a long process and this indicates where she is at this moment. every

the second time in eight years in the six three decision the court upheld to voting restrictions in arizona, one requiring ballots cast in the wrong person to be thrown out. and the other limiting who could collect and deliver ballots to polling sites. last year, the ninth circuit court of appealed ruled the laws violated -- because a disproportionately affected minority voters. today, one of the justices argue that the law did in placed the burden on minorities. the mere fact that there is some disparity in impact does not necessarily mean that is system is not equally open or that it does not give everyone an equal opportunity to vote. in a scathing dissent, justice accuse the conservative majority of rewriting the law beyond what congress had intended. what is tragic is that the court has yet again re-written, in order to weaken, a statute that stands as a monument to america's greatness and protects against its bassist impulses. election law expert, rick and say that it makes it harder to prove racial discrimination in passing a voting rule making it that much harder for tuesday to win

states are gaining momentum following the recent supreme court ruling that upheld new election laws in arizona and the success of senate republicans in blocking federal voting rights legislation. now leaders of national civil rights groups are stepping up pressure on the white house. late today, they met president biden and vice president harris in a private session to lay ou

. >> nbc news is reporting that your delegation considered going to west virginia and to arizona because senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema opposed abolishing the filibuster. but your group of fear in that states with republican governors would help return you to texas. do you feel that you will still make attempts in washington to contact senator manchin and senator sinema? >> there was a delegation of house members who came to washington a few weeks ago after the first time we broke quorum to meet with senator manchin. i myself went to west virginia. about two weeks ago, to participate in the voting rights rally, where the freedom ride landing in west virginia and heard from these constituents that they had hope and they were working with their senate and encouraging them to do his part so that west virginia could be as human passing voting rights legislation. of course i'm talking about the for the people act. the john lewis voting rights. as you know, in 1965 there was a texas president, lyndon johnson and he was a champion and ultimately succeeded and having i passed. an

. >> nbc news is reporting that your delegation considered going to west virginia and to arizona because senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema have opposed abolishing the filibuster to pass the for the people act. but that, your group feared that those states' republican governors would help return you to texas. do you feel that you will, still, make attempts in washington to contact senator manchin and senator sinema? >> there was a delegation of house members who came to washington a few weeks ago, after the first time we broke quorum, to meet with senator manchin. i, myself, went to west virginia, about two weeks ago, to participate in a voting rights rally. where the freedom ride -- the new freedom ride landed in west virginia and heard from his constituents. they had hope and they were working with their senator. and urging him to do his part so that west virginia could -- in passing federal voting rights legislation. of course, i'm talking about the for the people act and the john lewis voting rights act. you know, in 1965, there was a central texas president, lyndon johns