we have the latest on joe biden's very first cabinet meeting as president. and later tonight, if you watch "the beat," you know we have been working on this. our special civil rights panel 53 years after mlk's assassination. but we begin with breaking news. this was, as nicole was just reporting, the fourth day of the chauvin trial wrapping up. chauvin's police supervisor testifying just moments ago he should have stopped using restraint. the officers should have when floyd was no longer showing any

and i think joe biden is the person that can do it. he has the ability. the fact that he's a while meat, the fact he has a sensitivity. i was in the room when he met with george floyd's family when he was running for president, and some said, don't go do that. he went the day before the funeral. he has a sensitivity, and he has the knowledge, and he has people like judge garland, like those that are bringing -- being brought into the justice department, like gupta and like kristen clark. they need to be able to use all their wherewithal. when i was a kid, lyndon johnson was at this same place, and he had the same set-up. and lyndon johnson was able to pass the civil rights act and voting rights act because people pushed the administration. we're going to push, and i think we're pushing people that will get it, but we've got to do our side. martin luther king said there are two types of leaders. there are thermometers. and they are thermostats. thermometers judge the jump, thermostats change the temperature. i'm going to stand with these families until we

president joe biden today returning to the room where it happened, announcing an end to the war in afghanistan in the treaty room, upstairs in the white house where president bush spoke in 2001, when he first announced strikes against afghanistan in retaliation for the attacks on september 11th. here's president biden just hours ago, making the announcement about a war that has spanned two decades and four presidencies. >> i believed that our presence in afghanistan should be focused on the reason we went in the first place, to ensure afghanistan would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland again. we did that. we accomplished that objective. i said, among with others, we would follow osama bin laden to the gates of hell if need be. that's exactly what we did, and we got him. with the terror threat now in many places, keeping thousands of troops grounded and concentrated in just one country at a cost of billions each year makes little sense to me and to our leaders. we cannot continue the cycle of extendsing or expanding our military presence in afghanistan, hoping to create id

she's president joe biden's nominee to lead the justice department civil rights division. since january, right-wing voices have sought to cast clark as a left-wing radical. even yesterday at her confirmation hearing she was accused of being anti-semitic and a champion of cop killers, that's despite support from the jewish council and current police chiefs. "the new york times" editorial board lays it out like this. the real reason some conservatives want to take down ms. clark is that she's been an effective champion of voting rights for black, brown, and poor people. that's why she was nominated and that's why people like tucker carlson are grasping at straws to tank her nomination with lies. joining our conversation is mara gaye, katie benner is still here. mara, the right wing has taken this weird step in doing what i think ashley parker first coined, the quiet parts out loud. they're now smearing and trying to scandalize an incredibly competent and impressive nominee as an extense of their effort to sort of not have any obstacles in their campaign to suppress voting ri

joe biden, now, i've traveled the world with joe. i hoped he lost. i prayed he would lose. he won. he's the legitimate president of the united states. >> but their comments that day were too little, too late. they did nothing to stop the momentum or consequences of the lies. and when those lies turned to violence, turned to chants of hang mike pence, to grizzly attacks on capitol police officers, republicans did nothing to stop it. in fact, in the hundred days since the insurrection, members of the gop have continued to spread misinformation, casting doubt on the election results still and downplaying the events of that day. the big lie now is being used as a weapon at state capitols all across the country as justification for new legislation designed to make it harder for people, mostly minorities, to cast their ballots in future elections. and new reporting from nbc news shines a light on how dangerous the threat of extremism stoke bid trump's disinformation really is. quote, they're the most elite, lethally trained members of the u.s. military. widely considered the best of the

joe biden has come to the table with a different narrative. he's come to the country with a different set of conversation or points that he wants to make in conversation i think that's important for him to acknowledge the consequences of this officer's actions, the consequences of the verdict as a result of those actions and give us some sense of how we need to respond going forward, and that he intends to be a leader in this space. not just for this case, but for future cases down the road. i think kelly anne conway at the white house said that they were -- when there was violence, it benefited them politically. they whom willed -- they saw the benefits to their case politically when there was unrest. they are hoping the president's words have an effect of trying to calm the nation, reminding people of what his agenda is. the rev and so many are involved in the doj priorities, the systematic racism. just give me one more beat on how that might be different tonight. >> i think it may be different. i think what is important is how the president

so there's so many things that joe biden, his administration wants to get done, and they don't -- joe biden really does want to do things in a bipartisan manner. people have a hard time believe it, but what we're seeing with the infrastructure bill, they're having meetings. what i've been told in those meeks, the meme there are more serious and they're not having these screaming fights. they are having these conversation but the cameras aren't there, right? so because of what then president trump has done with the republican party, making it about politics of contempt, when you get in front of the cameras, these same people act different live. that's something hard to counter act when you have to get legislation done. >> or when you get off camera, it's hard to walk back and say i didn't mean any of that. eugene daniels is sticking around. errin, thank you. and david jolley, congratulations on your wonderful news. it fills our hearts with joy. is anybody sleeping? >> no, no, but you used the word jody. a few times in life you get to experience joy. we nope happiness and excitement, bu

that coalition is the coalition frankly that elected joe biden and that coalition extends even beyond that to republicans, to others who really see that this is completely out of control, no other civilized nation would allow this to go on and an overreach by government in the cases of so many police killings. i actually think there's a whole lot of reason for hope and another thing that struck me this past week is listening to george floyd's brothers, he has a lot of brothers. which i didn't realize. but they were so powerful the other day speaking after the verdict and when they talked about their faith it really felt like i was kind of in church in a black church specifically and it was a great reminder of the power of hope and the power of i think the black community which has for generations, right, had to hope in the face of hopelessness and it was such a refreshing thing to see the word of god and the name of god invoked not to talk about stripping people's rights away, whether that's transgender americans or women, but in fact, talking about justice. as an american, as a chris

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biden, and joe biden would be in the white house now, he says. that narrative undermined by trump himself who views the election as stolen from him, it was not, of course, and felt stopping the congressional counting of electoral votes january 6th was his chance to get it back. here we are, four months after the insurrection, and his lap dogs are defending trump's actions, still choosing him to be their future, the future of the republican party, and still, still to this day repeating the big lie. like we're seeing now in arizona, state senate republicans are running a faux audit of ballots in maricopa county that have been counted three times. the gop doubling and tripling down on dangerous and deadly big lie. we start this hour with some of our favorite reporters. charlie sykes is here, and sam stein, and former rnc chairman, you know i am coming to you first, michael steele. all three msnbc political contributors. michael steele, great piece of reporting on mccarthy. i am coming to you first. this refusal that we know two new facts. we know th

one, holding firm on the administration's commitment, and here's president joe biden just a few hours ago. >> starting today, if you're fully vaccinated and you're outdoors, you need -- and not in a big crowd -- you no longer need to wear a mask. the cdc is ability to make this announcement because our scientists are convinced by the data that the odds of getting or giving the virus to others is very, very low if you both have been fully vaccinated, and out in the open air. so go get the shot. it's never been easier. once you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask when you're outside and away from big crowds. >>> the bad news is that the biden administration is now rowing against a two-headed monster on the disinformation and polarization front. it's important to stop right here and tell you that, back when donald trump told people to inject bleach, there were people who took that to heart, who listened to him. in a story just this week out of brayden ton, florida, and man and his three sons were indicted by a federal grand jury for selling a bleach formula they claimed was a

other joe biden. >> the only thing about joe biden was to get to the bottom of how luzenko dismissed the case -- >> so you did ask them to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> you just said you didn't. >> so he knew that rudy giuliani had copped on television to asking the ukrainians to investigate joe biden. bill barr had every reason to know what ukraine was doing. the justice department leadership that didn't let this fbi investigation go to a judge and see if they had enough reason for a judge to grant a search want, knew exactly what rudy giuliani was doing. >> to the extent that anyone knew exactly what rudy giuliani was doing, bill barr should have known. that man, rudy giuliani, is the gift that keeps on giving from an evidentiary standpoint. you mark that clip that you just played as exhibit 1. in a trial for failing to register as a foreign agent, and importantly it is not just an administrative indicate. we sauce it play out in an impeachment hearing. so, yes, you're right, bill barr knew or should have known exactly what rudy giuliani was doing, because he told chr

now i think you see joe biden saying, look, we don't want any part of that. if they investigate rudy giuliani they can do that and don't tell me and he said he did not know and exactly the change in some ways that the american people voted for and they don't want to have the two things, the presidency and the department of justice, at all working together and supposed to be independent and the way that american democracy worked and thrived. >> let me play for you michael cohen on rudy giuliani and donald trump. >> first of all, you have to understand. there really is no relationship. nor has there ever been between rudy and donald. prior to donald being president rudy didn't like donald and donald didn't like rudy. do i think he'll give up donald in a heart beat? absolutely. >> so michael cohen spent time in jail. at the end of his association with donald trump. this is another associate of donald trump but perhaps the trumpiest of all rudy giuliani was traveling the country. i think he caught covid at the time peddling the big lie behind the story we started

you push them to investigate the bidens, joe biden and hunter biden, his son, which, of course, started the chain of events that led to his first impeachment, and also some of this was covert and outward efforts by these russian officials, those close to russia, and other times, it was just, how internalized this had all become, that for so many republicans and the conservative media where suddenly vladimir putin, who, for years, of course, was considered enemy number one for republicans too. let's remember, mitt romney in 2012 said that he was the greatest threat, russia was the greatest threat, international threat the united states faced. but because of how trump changed the conversation, the way that he allied himself and spoke so fondly of putin and the way, of course, that they wanted to hear this disinformation that the russians provided, these attacks on whether it was obama or clinton or whatever democrat it may be and then eventually biden that they just were willing to go along with it. they sort of accepted the kremlin's talking points. even if they didn't necessarily realiz

biden who won. the georgia law seeks to disempower them and give power to the republican, trumpy state legislature, so the notion that people didn't know what was in it is also one of the sort of misnomers out there for anyone covering these laws, making their way through, i think, 47 states, 108 of them. >> nicole, you hit on the point really early here, which is these companies have armies of lobbyists and i'm just speaking of companies generally, and not only here in the capital but in every state house across the country. corporations are, unless it's going to impact their immediate bottom line, taxes, tariffs, things of that nature, they are risk averse, and they don't want to get involved in anything that doesn't impact them immediately or foreseeably impact them immediately, and i found it really interesting today, mitch mcconnell was in lexington at the university of kentucky, and he said that ceos should not be involved in politics and should stay out of politics. i don't remember him sayin

that's what you hear from joe biden, apart from the fact that this is the moral right thing to do. joe biden doesn't become president if african-americans in south carolina and other states this is who we want to be our president. so there really is this kalt laos. it goes back to the very survival of black people in this country. >> john heilemann, because, of course, that is the bigger picture and of course this is about big and painful truths, the republicans are going small. let me end with jimmy kimmel with you. watch. >> with all his complaining about cancel culture, this guy tried to cancel more culture than anybody ever. if you listen to donald trump, you'd have to cancel baseball, coke, delta airlines, viacomcbs, citigroup, sysco, ups, univision, hbo, rolling stone, starbucks, geico, goodyear, amazon, at&t, nfl, t-mobile and merck which has to be the company that makes pro peesh yeah. what are the chances that he'll give up diet coke or his bald medicine? none. but he wants you to. >> it's that simple. there's no chance that republicans will live by the canceling you're ca

joe biden democrats are going to have a lot to say about how they helped accelerate that. and republicans for the most part didn't cooperate with that, even though a healthy share of their voters support things like the infrastructure package. so yeah, the sort of politics of grievance and culture war and not cooperating, the hypocrisy that claire talked about putting them in a challenging place. this is a closely divided political country, so we still have a lot of close elections but right now, you see joe biden answering the mail of americans every day. they want focused on vaccinations, opening up schools, opening up the economy which is what he's doing. republicans nowhere to be found because they're under the throne of donald trump. it is more of a cult than a political party and if anything, that's intensified since his loss. >> i do wonder though, claire, with this infrastructure bill, obviously, there are legitimate questions that can be asked there, legitimate discussions that can be had about the price tag and how this money should be spent and where it should g

david french who writes for "the dispatch" has put forward the same red flag proposal that joe biden offered today which he says would make a real difference and not take guns out of law-abiding gun owners but those when you can't arrest somebody but they're a danger to themselves and ohs put a hold on the ability to buy a gun for a certain amount of time. this is a logical solution within the second amendment that could be a bipartisan thing to work around the edges own the detail just the republican party is not interested in discussing that. even the modest proposals from conservative minds like david french and i think that's the telling part about this debate right now. >> alex, it dovetails perfectly into the last point they don't agree that the epidemic of mass shootings is a problem and therefore they won't come to the table with a different bucket of solutions and largely out of step with law-abiding gun owners. most sup important more than what -- i don't mean to say anything negative about incrementalism. it is one minor change makes one person unable to buy a gun and that