apparently he has posted online about fear is the cia and the f.b.i. and so that could indicate maybe mental illness. mental illness as a as a cause for why you did this at the same time national media has reported that he will follow all of the nation of islam. not could indicate to suggest a logical motive but at the end of the day the suspect is dead now and so should be very difficult to discern. what drove him to this point. that washington correspondent and we caught doing speaking to us a little earlier ok let's take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world rescue efforts are continuing at the site of taiwan's davis trying to indicates more than 50 people were killed and more than 140 injured when carriages. the trying to buy the truck as it was emerging from a tunnel almost 500 people were on board more than 100 of those didn't have stick. around 100 protesters gathered into the turkish city of his temple on friday demanding that president. reverse his decision to withdraw turkey from a land trading protecting women

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and what the cia director said just today about the risk if u.s. troops leave. >>> the desperate search under way at this hour to find survivors from a capsized vessel in the gulf. at least one person found dead. several others still missing tonight. >>> the attack on the capitol. and the scathing new report tonight from the inspector general. did capitol police ignore intelligence warnings of an attack on congress? and why were officers told not to use the most aggressive force against the capitol rioters? >>> bernie madoff has died in prison. so whatever happened to the billions stolen? did american investors get their money back? >>> and the new cdc study tonight on the virus, airplanes, and the middle seat. >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us on a wednesday night. we begin with the breaking headline from the cdc, an advisory committee late today leaving the temporary pause for the johnson & johnson vaccine in effect. saying they need to know more after rare reports of six women who suffered severe blood clots. one died, another in

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. >> and director burns of the cia indicated in testimony that the very nature of the withdrawal will diminish to a degree our ability to collect intelligence. do you concur with that assessment, to? >> i do concur. we will use the bills we have now to see completely in afghanistan -- to succeed. >> the issue before is very practically is how do we compensate for those facts on the ground, here and perhaps you might reserve some comments to the classified section, how do you plan to compensate so we can effectively disrupt al-qaeda and isis? >> i will have more pointed comments in a closed session but briefly i would tell you it would be difficult. it is not impossible to accomplish this task. a couple things that change since 2001. when we were last attack from afghanistan. first of all the united states itself is a far harder target then we were in september of 2001, it's more difficult operate in the trading. it's more difficult to gain access to the united states so right if things have changed inside the united states and we should always keep that in mind. additionally although

. >> and director burns of the cia indicated in the testimony that the very nature will diminish to a degree the ability to collect intelligence. do you concur with that assessment? >> i do concur with that assessment. we will use the ability we have now to see completely. >> is how do we compensate for those facts on the ground, and here perhaps you might reserve some more for the classified session. how do we effectively disrupt al qaeda and isis? >> chair man, i will have more comments in the closed session but briefly i will tell you it may be difficult but it's not impossible to accomplish this task. a couple things have changed since 2001. we were last attacked in afghanistan. first the united states itself is a far harder target than we were in september of 2001. it's more difficult to operate in the united states and gain access to the united states, so a variety of things have changed inside of the united states and we should keep that in mind. additionally, although we are going to try to pull out of afghanistan, we are operating under the concept that the u.s. military pres

virginia congresswoman, democratic member of house forren affairs and agriculture committees and a former cia officer, i just think is cool. anyway, move to your expectations of president biden's address to congress wednesday. what do you want to hear from him? >> i want to hear the president to continue to talk about the challenges that we as a country face, and the ways that he wants to move us forward. as a candidate, he spoke clearly about the major impact of the ongoing pandemic. what it meant for the health and lives of the american people. what it meant for our economy and how he was aggressively going to go after a plan to vaccinate millions of americans, and, of course, he's already exceeded the 200 million shots in arms goals set out in the 100, first 100 days. he talked about efforts to rebuild the economy, and we see a vision for that through the american jobs plan. so what i want to hear him talk about is continual focus on getting us through this pandemic. a focus on how we rebuild our nation's infrastructure. it is a time of tremendous opportunity, and our nation's physical inf

he put together this whole scheme about a $25 million plot, and somehow this disappeared cia agent has reemerged in the story somehow. but republicans are not jumping to defend matt gaetz, and i think many of them are hearing these allegations and saying, well, i think that kind of rings true. >> he's got madeleine and jim jordan on his side. >> i guess jim jordan in some ways is one of his closest friends in congress. he is the ranking member on the judiciary committee. matt gaetz is in the freedom caucus, and matt makes no bones about disagreeing with others. >> gaetz will be looking to leave congress early to work for the right wing media. fox news said in a statement yesterday said, no one with any level of authority has had conversations with matt gaetz on any platforms. we have no interest in hiring him. >> i think the interest there would have dried up pretty immediately when you have this probe hanging over you. on this same day this came out that he was looking to leave congress and take a media job, frankly part of his congressional career has been going on tv defending the l

the comments support the cia director previous warnings. what is your assessment of this challenge, and how can we support the afghan national security forces to manage these threats? >> we will continue to have a relationship with the afghan security forces. we have a shared concern in that regard. we believe the afghan national security forces are a national asset for the country. therefore, it's worth supported -- supporting. we obviously will have a presence in the neighborhood, the region, that will compensate , not completely, but compensate for the departure of u.s. forces in terms of assistance that the presence provided for intelligence capabilities to monitor. there would be some diminution without the presence. the threat is also less than it was at times in the past, and it's the agenda of our president, the leadership, yes, there will be challenges in terms of collection of intelligence and responding, but given the gains that we've made from withdrawal, given the nature of the threat, that is on balance the right strategy. if

was scrubbed from the dhs website and led leader kevin mccarthy who wants a break in by the fbi and cia on these two guys and whoever else might have come over the border. what pictures does that raise for you? >> we have seen an arrogance from the biden administration and that they will only show and tell us what they think we need to know. it is demeaning. it is unacceptable for the american people that the president is withholding information. and i think this is a trend. whether it is him not doing press conferences or them on certain things they are doing, not letting us know what the solutions and goals are and to what happens. whether it's not working with the republicans. i mean, it is a very much an arrogant way of having this presidency. to go and hide and decide what we can and cannot see, it is just unacceptable. >> sandra: ambassador haley, i can't help but think that you offer a unique perspective to the crisis at the southern border at a time when you were seen such a prominent female figure, figure come i should say, in your party. but you have also at this moment got th

. >>> cia director william burns has delivered a sobering message to congress just as president biden announces plans to withdraw troops from afghanistan by september 11th. burns told lawmakers once the troops leave, our ability to collect intelligence in afghanistan and act on threats will diminish, but the president says it's time to end our longest war. >> we delivered justice to bin laden a decade ago, and we've stayed in afghanistan for a decade since. since then our reasons for remaining in afghanistan become increasingly unclear. >> defense secretary lloyd austin defended biden's decision saying, the u.s. will continue supporting the afghan security forces by paying their salaries and offering humanitarian aid. >>> time now for a look at your thursday weather. more hail and heavy rain along the gulf coast today. this was the scene in southern louisiana where thunderstorms today could produce flash flooding. someone got a little too close to this lightning strike in louisiana bayou country, and more lightning is on the way. elsewhere rain and snow, some snow today in parts of th

. >> former cia operative will hurd says telling us when and where with a fight with no conditions how we ended up in isis in the last democrat administration. it will only embolden those who want to do us harm. vice president biden flew to baghdad with the bay of commitment ceremony marking the withdrawal of u.s. troops from iraq. a few years later the u.s. military would return to have air strikes against isis were deployed to iraq and syria. the 10 year anniversary of the navy seals killing of osama bin laden. officials say it would be hard to do a similar operation without bases in afghanistan. >> trace: thank you. >> dana: not everyone is welcoming the president's decision to leave afghanistan by september 11th. let's bring in rob owe kneel the navy seal who took out osama bin laden. a big decision. the timing, the 20th anniversary of 9/11 is when we'll have our troops out. let's get your overall take. i got excerpts from president biden i want to read to you. >> thanks for having me. i think as always it's a mistake to give a timeline to the enemy of when we'll leave. i know sept

journal will be live to look back at the failed invasion and its consequences joining us as former cia historian nicholas dumovich who will take viewer calls and tweets. the c-span cities tour travels the country exploring the american story since 2011. we've been to more than 200 communities across the nation like many americans our staff is staying close to home due to the coronavirus. next a look at one of our city's

we'll look back at the invasion and its consequences with former cia historian, nicholas dumovic and sunday at 4pm eastern on reel america for films on us cuba relations an edited version of the 1961. nbc report cuba bay of pigs president. john f. kennedy's 1961 speech after the field invasion a compilation of universal newsreels from 1959 to 1961 on the cuban revolution through the bay of pigs. asian and a 1960 broadcast cuba the battle of america exploring the american story watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3 each week american history tvs american artifacts takes viewers behind the scenes at archives museums and historic sites. next a tour of the japanese-american national museum museum in los angeles's little tokyo our tour guide is docent bill shishima who was born in a little tokyo in 1930 and spent three years at heart mountain relocation center during world war ii. located near downtown los angeles little tokyo is one of three remaining in california. whereas many as 40 japantowns thrived prior to world war ii. los angeles first started way back in 1781 when 1

1400 cia train cuban exiles launched a failed invasion to overthrow fidel castro's communist government in cuba at the bay of pigs live saturday at 9am eastern on american history tv and washington journal. we'll look back at the invasion and its consequences with former cia historian, nicholas dumovic and sunday at 4pm eastern on reel america for films on us cuba relations an edited version of the 1961. nbc report cuba bay of pigs president. john f. kennedy's 1961 speech after the failed invasion a compilation of universal newsreels from 1959 to 1961 on the cuban revolution through the pigs invasion and a 1960 broadcast cuba the battle of america exploring the american story watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3 next we'll hear the story of the pilgrim's crossing in 1620 and the origins of the mayflower compact. will also tour mayflower too a reproduction of the original ship to see what life was like on board. i am richard pickering deputy executive director of plymouth patuxent museums, and we are at state pier in plymouth, massachusetts. mayflower 2 is behind me a full-

we'll look back at the invasion and its consequences with former cia historian nicholas dumavich and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, four films on u.s./cuba relations. an edited version of the 1961 nbc report "cuba:bay of pigs." a compilation of universal news reels from 1959 to 1961 on the cuban revolution through the bay of pigs invasion. and a 1960 broadcast "cuba: the battle of america." egs exploring the american history. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3.

than 1 40ishgs 0 cia trained crew ban exiles launched a failed invasion to overthrowfy dell castro at bay of pigs. we'll look back at the invasion and its consequences with former cia historian nicholas dumavich and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, four films on u.s./cuba relations. an edited version of the 1961 nbc report "cuba:bay of pigs." a compilation of universal news reels from 1959 to 1961 on the cuban revolution through the bay of pigs invasion. and a 1960 broadcast "cuba: the battle of america." egs exploring the american history. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> next we visit plimoth patuxet in plymouth, massachusetts, and talk to interpreters about daily life. the year depicted is 1627, seven years after the mayflower landed when 160 pilgrims lived there. >> i am richard pickering, executive director at plimoth and we're in the 17th century english village, a recreation of plymouth as it looked seven years after "mayflower" landed. when our guests enter the historic site, they encounter living history educators who are portraying men and women who lived i

but you have the backdrop -- and even the own cia director -- acknowledging it will be difficult to do intelligence gathering without u.s. troops on the ground. i did speak with someone who did two tours of duty in afghanistan and said this is the right move and a sign the u.s. won. >> tony blinken wasn't going to a base. he was in kabul and he talked to the troops. this is part of what he had to say. >> i have to tell you that i am confident in all you have achieved and doing. i know this is a moment for many emotions. these are hard choices, hard decisions. >> and that was in comments to the troops themselves. there were a couple of officers there and other members of the armed forces. we will try to get you a picture from the pool fleet as well. >>> you know this better than anyone, the military options just weren't there. but the withdrawal is also a very bitter person after all of the losses, the deaths, the casualties, $2 trillion, 20 years. the president said there was no military victory that was possible. >> thanks. i am wearing today the afghan campaign ribbon if you can see

. >> joining me now is jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the pentagon and cia. it seems like this is a delicate balancing act. sanctions but saying out loud he wants to try to deescalate. do you think this is the right way to handle it? it doesn't seem like the response from moscow necessarily fits with what the president says he is trying to achieve. >> i do think the president is approaching this appropriately. every time you have diplomacy with an adversary -- ronald reagan had to deal with the soviet union. you want to engage. you want to clearly demarch -- demarcate the lines. we are holding you responsible for the massive hack, your election interference which happened not just in 2016 but also 2020 according to our intelligence community leadership. in that way, it's a pitch. it's a deterrent against russia. there's a more dangerous situation in crimea. the nations of the g7 issued a strong statement warning moscow against furthering escalating. >> i'm glad you brought that up. i was going to ask you about that next. there has been some criticism or some

we've heard that from the cia and we've heard that from the -- we're talking about from the military and the generals. concern, of course, from general mackenzie that they will have a harder time tracking down al qaeda. what are your concerns about doing this without an interim peace agreement? >> well, i don't think we'll get any time of interim agreement. this was, i think, a very difficult decision by the president and i think the calculation was basically, we could spend more time there, invest more troops and endure more casualties, but it would not ultimately turn over or allow the afghan military and their political leadership to defeat the taliban. i think really, where we are rid now is recognizing this is not closure. we're not leaving. we're transitioning. we still have security interests in the region and there are still terrorist groups there. it is not clear to me or many others that the taliban will sever its ties with al qaeda, so we have to be on the watch and the watch is more difficult because we won't have land bases, presumably, in afghanistan. we'll have to fly

joining me now jeremy bash, former chief of staff, cia and pentagon and attorney from chief counsel house intelligence committee as well. disinformation is a big deal and also the fact that rudy giuliani according to the fbi and "the new york times" account, the fbi, rather, was looking into the ukrainian push to get rid of maria vanovich. is this an alleged violation of the foreign lobbying laws or is there something more here? >> well, there appear to be two streams here to the fbi's investigation into activities involving rudy giuliani. the first is russian interference in the u.s. political system. obviously, this is a well-understood story by the u.s. intelligence community which has published assessments that show that russia obviously was involved in the 2016 election. but also was trying to influence the 2020 election. so there's a national security commission. i think the one question for the fbi is, as russia was trying to sow disinformation, was rudy giuliani willing or unwilling? was he a stooge or in on it? i think that's the first question. the second more serious question i

bill daley, chief of staff and john brennan then the counterterrorism director and would go on to be cia director and a chief of staff and made the decision, it's the raid. draft the appropriate orders and he walked out to the helicopter to go to alabama to view storm damage. so, those were-- of course on sunday we launched the raid. we were on the fifth anniversary of dramatic events on the country's history and my experience in the white house. >> absolutely. let me take you to look at the last 100 days since you left office, steve. what's your assessment how the biden team is doing? what's the biggest mistake they've made so far, do you think? >> yeah, so when i was first invited to speak at this session, jennifer, i have to say i reflected upon the kind of the absurdity of at that i canning -- of reflecting the administration 100 days in and i think it should be the last 100 days rather than its first 100 days and i actually look back at how he started using this metric of the yard stick for presidents and according to the history channel, the origin is in napoleon's escape from alba

as an agency officer, cia officer, who went to the george pike hearings, one of which will be discussed today by vince hotan, before an attempted assassination, none of them succeeded, which either reflects incompetence or a lack of commitment, or we will hear one of them today, but looking back at that ♪

the cia exceeded its capabilities. this is the cia in 1961. during the 1950s, the cia got, let's argue, too big for its britches, a bunch of successful operations around the world, overthrowing governments in guatemala and iran, fixing elections in italy. they're not yet the cia we know and love today. they're not yet at the capability of running massive para military operation in 1961. they get really good in vietnam, in laos, the secret war on laos, this is not the same thing as fixing an election in italy. this is a massive para military operation. so the idea that the cia is going to run this operation to kick out a very popular president was laughable at this point. let's go to the next bullet point here. say you're to collect and analyze intelligence about cuban forces. that's a problem that the cia is not collecting and analyzing intelligence about cuban forces. that's the basics, peter can tell you that's probably plan number one, you should be doing if you're thinking about an invasion of cuba, and i that didn't take the time to do it

the cia and fbi offered as top secret. is something that continues to this day. the understanding of the underground resistance in germany, but inaccuracies still persist. details about mildred are frequently inaccurate. there is an article in the new york times and it has lots of errors. mildred was decapitated on hitler's order as an american woman. those kinds of inaccuracies have happened over the decades. it's also important to understand that most history downplays marginalized for women participation. the resistance group that some of the may be familiar with as the leader. his sister is not typically referred to as a leader. she is his sister or a participant. both founders. historians writing about mildred which, again, a bunch of different names. calling at the red orchestra. basically referring to to her as -- wife. many other historians who stated that women played a prominent role in the red orchestra. notably mildred and then said nothing more. we don't know any more information. that is another reason why i felt like it was important for me to writ

and coalition militaries on the ground and in the air, fueled by intelligence, provided by the cia and our other intelligence partners. when the time comes for the u.s. military to withdraw, the u.s. government's ability to collect and act on threats will diminish. >> a pretty surprising remark there. i don't think it was something that a lot of people didn't know but to hear that assessment from the cia director, i'm curious, your thoughts. what do you make of his comments? and what could that diminished capability mean for efforts to deal with a growing threat coming from that part of the world? >> let's just say first off, it's a real pleasure to see the ahead of the cia, any intelligence official, just speak truth to power. it's been a while since we've seen it. my hunch is bill burns comments were not wildly well received at the white house because, yes, we will pay a price. pull out thousands of u.s. forces and not diminish our ability to collect intelligence and not diminish our ability to act on intelligence. it makes more likely the re-emergence of afghanistan as a place where

we can now speak to tracy walder who's a former cia officer and fbi special agent with experience in dealing with domestic terrorism and other home—grown attacks. thank you very much for coming on the programme. the first thing we should do is reflect on the fact that an officer who got up and went to work today is now not going home and we should not lose sight of that first of all.— first of all. absolutely not. he was with _ first of all. absolutely not. he was with the _ first of all. absolutely not. he was with the capitol- first of all. absolutely not. i he was with the capitol police from almost 18 years and really gave such a tremendous amount of his life to service and we should all be very grateful for that. , ., , ., that. given the details, not very many _ that. given the details, not very many details, - that. given the details, not very many details, but - that. given the details, not. very many details, but given those details we have so far, what kind of thing do you think the investigation will be looking at now?- the investigation will be looking at now? one of

well earlier i spoke to tracy walder who's a former cia officer and fbi special agent. i asked him what he thought investigators will be focussed on. we can now speak to tracy walder who's a former cia so one of the things i do think they will be looking at is clearly emotive. the suspect�*s name is noah greene and it has since sort of come out through his social media that he had ties to the nation of islam which, through our southern poverty law center here in the united states, is listed as a known hate group. so i think they will be looking at that in terms of motive and i think they will also be sort of broadening out their reach in terms of who they are going to look at, what kind of lists they are going to start putting on — people on. i think sometimes we brand terror as looking some way or believing a certain ideology and i think perhaps this is a wake—up call that it sort of comes in all different shapes and sizes. yeah, we should just obviously stress some of the details you mentioned there are not yet official, from official sources. correct. let's tak

forces there -- contingent of glenda stein cia forces there -- contingent of clandestine cia forces there? robin: they can, but it will be much harder. katty: robin wright, think you for joining the program. robin: thank you. katty: it is a gamble that president biden has taken. he is determined to have those troops out. the special climate envoy, john kerry, has become the biden administration's first senior official to visit china. he is in shanghai, discussing effos to tackle global warming. he says despite current political tensions between america and beijing, the climate issue stand apart. our correspondent has more. reporter: superpowers and super polluters. the world cannot address climate change unless both are willing to turn away from fossil fuels, and both are ready to cooperate. that is the mission of the u.s. climate envoy, john kerry. visiting china in the hope that the rebels can pause their political discord for the sake of the planet. china has as much coal-fired power capacity as the rest of the world put together. it is offering informally to freeze emissions by

to the cia, enough troops on the border of ukraine for a limited military incursion. that does not sound terribly alarming, a limited military incursion, does it? mr. kirby: i think any incursion into ukraine, any violation of ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity should be concerning to all of us. i won't get into specific intelligence assessments. i believe that to our intelligence community colleagues, but we are seeing this buildup as well and it is deeply concerning. an incursion, another incursion, another violation of ukrainian sovereignty is absolutely of enough concern to us that we want to be clear about that. katty: let's go further east to asia because he looks at the same time we have this buildup of escalation of military forces on the border of ukraine from the russian side, we've had china flexing its muscles militarily around the issue of taiwan. does it seem to the pentagon there is more of a strategic coordination takinglace between russia and china at the moment. if so, how worrying would that be for the u.s.? mr. kirby: they have done so

anchor: i have seen earlier that a cia report was out today, director william burns saying that this is in fact not the right time and it could cause a risk to u.s. security. i am wondering if this more in afghanistan and mr. biden speaking, is it at the front of americans' minds? >> yes the issue troops here is always at the top of the political agenda, and incredibly emotive subject in america. it is incredibly important politically for all sites to have strong views in these areas. and most politicians do want to bring troops home as a standard political mantra, if you like. in terms of the establishment, the cia director from what i have seen was questioning whether america would get the same kd of intelligence out of that region without having that kind of personnel on the ground. they are saying that might prove harder. their argument is they can do it by other means. it may take longer, it may not be quite as full, but they do have other methods in late -- methods in place. and global terror threats like al qaeda and isis are not the threat they once were. this is not my obser

the answer, but we saw this combination into this broader conspiracy that included , at times, the cia, included d.h.s. voting isotopic watermarks on ballots to be able to track them to look for the fraud. to me, perhaps the most disturbing part, these took hold and spread very very quickly as the attorney general talked about, and despite the best efforts of all the election officials, the loudest voices -- i know i am not supposed to push a report from stanford on a cal broadcast, but a recent report from the election information project which includes stanford, washington, graphika and some other partners shows that really , 20 to 25 major influencers just jumped on this misinformation, pushed it broadly. and the result was death threats, threats to election officials, and then eventually january 6. to me, the loss of a peaceful transfer of power. and that is a loss of the very core of who we are as americans. and we're now gonna have to come to grips with the fact that we didn't have a peaceful transfer of power, and what does that mean for us moving forward to begin to deal with t

it's not just cia cia is not doing these things as a rogue elephant as once was claimed. let's remind everyone that we are talking about the 60th anniversary of the bay of pigs invasion here in washington journal. this is a co-production with american history tv, and it's being simulcast on c-span 3 right now nicholas one of our social media followers has ridden in with their story of the bay and pig invasion that i want to read to you. this tweets says i was a child in cuba during the bay of pigs fiasco. we hid in a closet while anti-aircraft fire raged from the nearby hilltop the next day in the middle of the night. we fled the roundup of opposition to the countryside and hid for weeks until it was over what was happening with the people of cuba during the bay of pigs invasion. well again. tens of thousands of them were rounded up. the result of the invasion was at even though there had been a lot of opposition to castro in the country. because he stood up. to the united states. here's a latin american leader who stood up to the united states. he was more popular than e

perhaps some in cia will still remember it yet appeared my job as a cia historian is to make sure that the cia workforce did not forget certain things. when we intervene in foreign countries, they never forget it. and cuba and the cuban leadership will remind us always that we had attempted this bundled up operation to replace the government there. host: let's talk to bill from dover, delaware. good morning. caller: good morning, i wanted to say that 60 years ago, living with my family in northern virginia, my father woke me up and said, hey, get up, you're not going to school today. something is going on. and that he woke my sister up and took us into the living room, sat us before a radio, and he had that shortwave band being used by the cubans brigade to communicate back and forth. we were actually listening to them talking on their radios during the invasion and subsequent to it. basically, it was a horrible disaster of course, but i remember my father identified voices on the radio, saying i know this guy, that is payday, he is one of the leaders, and i recognize his voice and one

one of my jobs as a cia historian was to ensure that the cia workforce did not forget certain things. but when we intervene in foreign countries, they never forget it. and cuba, and the cuban leadership, will remind us always that we had attempted this, this bungled operation to replace the government there. >> let's talk to bill who is calling from dover, delaware. bill, good morning. >> good morning. i just wanted to say that 60 years ago, living with my family in northern virginia, my father woke me up and said, hey, get up, you're not going to school today, something's going on. and he woke my sister up and took us into the living room and sat us down in front of the -- we had a big old radio with shortwave on it and everything. he had the shortwave band that was being used by the cubans, the brigade, to communicate back and forth. so we were actually listening to them talking on their radios that were during the invasion and subsequent to it. and basically it was a horrible disaster, of course. but i remember my father identified voices on the radio, saying, i know this guy, that