in the same week that the george floyd situation is going on, it reminds me of what happened in atlanta, where a black man got shot barely jogging through a wendy's parking lot. shot in the back and killed. and you just sit here wondering, what is wrong with these people? what do they not understand? how do we drive these bad cops out of police forces before this happens? because it's the good cops whose reputations get sullied by these bad cops. >> joe, i think things in my mind are changing so much because in that case, you mentioned, in atlanta, the local da charged an officer with murder. you didn't see that before. and you're seeing this national conversation of race and politician from the george floyd case and you see the serious charges about -- against derek chauvin. and the prosecution put on a really strong case and it's executive order national attention. i think moving forward, you need to have some legislation involving the mandatory use of body cameras. can you imagine where we would be without body camera footage today? also, i think you should have legislation about the

i mean pick the city, buffalo, new york city, denver, colorado, portland, oregon, atlanta, georgia, wherever, they look like they're going to war. they have shields, big equipment, and they do that because they want to let people protesting know who is in charge, who holds the authority, who will bend the knee who whom. that's the point. explicitly, it's a psychological performance. that's what we saw in the streets of minneapolis and brooklyn center, show of force with curfews, tear gas and flash bangs. take all the footage before last summer, since and now. take all that and look for a moment at utter inversion of what happened on the steps of the capitol in january. there was hardly any police presence at all. i mean there were officers there, right? covered multiple protests in washington and tends to be a lot of cops around when people are protesting particularly on the mall and capitol. but january 6th, almost no one there. don't have the big wraps and huge bits of equipment, little stanchions in front of them look like bike racks. but not just fortifying, but notable in the interactio

i mean, i think what's so fascinating for a lot of us -- ashanti after atlanta happened were some of the first to reach out to me and ask, how are we showing up for our asian sisters? i think what's most troubling in this moment is that like this conversation on inter sectionality, what this means for asian, asian americans, it's often kind of kept in this political activist educated bubble, right. some of the hardest conversations i've had in the last few weeks, it's been with my own parents, right. with our family members, relatives, and actually naming this anti-blackness that has existed for a very long time, right. it's those conversations, the grassroots, like going into the community and having those conversations are going to be some of the hardest work that we do. >> and, ashanti, i'm going to read from the op-ed. and this is the key line that made me say, i need to have these two women on the show to talk about this. and you write, in the wake of recent -- of a recent spike of anti-asian violence and with little evidence, many have begun to point to a divide between black a

he said that after the shooting that we saw in atlanta. i spoke with senator blumenthal yesterday and he talked about closing loopholes. he talked about the importance of gun safes in homes. what do you think here is the likelihood of success with a sweeping gun safety bill here with the current congress? >> i have to tell you, i always cross my fingers for the hope of us being able to get to gun safety that americans across the board support universal background checks, you know, closing some of these loopholes. but i remain a little bit of a skeptic. i hope that this time is different, and i think it's going to require, you know, changing some real rules in the senate in order to move those things through. >> all right, susan del percio, jonathan allen, charlie sykes, and donna edwards, we covered a lot of ground. >>> still ahead, a record number of unaccompanied children crossed into the u.s. from mexico last month and we're going to take you to the border near a processing center where families say they're sleeping in the dirt. don't g

baptist church when beth moore has left and last southern baptist in the news shot eight people in atlanta because of supposed sex addiction. >> and they have control of the supreme court, 6-3 ahead. >> this is going to be issue for us. this is one of the things that the biden administration will have to think about, whether or not they want to expand the court, what happens with the court, what will the court do if they get a roe versus wade case up there. abortion is not only thing evangelicals want, they want to be in power, that's the bottom line. >> indeed, thank you so much for being here. best of luck with the book. that's "the reid out." "all in" with chris hayes starts now. >>> tonight on "all in," companies call out voter suppression push as man who empowered corporations complains they're bullying republicans. >> my advice to corporate ceos of america, stay out of politics. >> senator bernie sanders on the pushback against the big lie. and shocking/not shocking reporting how the trump campaign bilked supporters out of money. >>> and derek chauvin trial, chief

hoffler firm in atlanta. she has counseled jesse jackson, also happens to be president of the national bar association, the nation's oldest network of predominantly black judges and attorneys, and counselor, indeed, i'd like to begin with you tonight. let's talk about this charge against the now former police officer who we saw on video firing the shot that killed daunte wright. second-degree manslaughter in the parlance of the law, man 2. is the right charge in your view? >> first of all, great to be here tonight, brian. is it the right charge? i would have to say that given what we saw -- and we have to trust our eyes -- i think there should have been a greater charge, but because of how the events unfolded, i believe that the district attorney felt that man 2 was probably the best that they could do given the circumstances. i would have hoped for a stronger charge, a higher charge because i thought that her behavior was, quite frankly, unacceptable and reckless. it was just completely reckless. you know th

from atlanta. >> i cried tear was joy. tears of joy. >> to boston. >> this is a moment in history, right? that, you know, so many people hopefully look back on as a catalyst for good things to happen. >> to houston where george floyd grew up. >> something had to happen to make them understand that you're not above the law. >> minutes before the verdict, outside the courthouse in minneapolis, brie graham told us she couldn't even watch the trial. >> it's been a constant trauma in re-living it over and over and over again and we need to see some just toys feel like we're going somewhere. so she and others crowded around their cell phones struggling to hear the jury's decision and then -- >> guilty! [ cheering ] a wave of relief sliced through the anxiety that had been tightening for almost a year. >> former officer derek chauvin guilty on all three counts. >> i can't believe it. it feels -- there's poetry in the fact that he couldn't breath and it feels like we got a breath of fresh air and it feels like we can breathe. >> r

tia mitch, washington correspondent for "the atlanta journal constitution." laura, here is how senator bernie sanders described biden's new information plan this morning. take a listen. >> roads and bridges and tunnels are infrastructure. but i think many of us see a crisis in human infrastructure, when a working class family can't find good quality, affordable childcare, that's human infrastructure. >> lauren, you've reported on this new plan. how is biden expanding what has traditionally been thought of as infrastructure with this plan? >> so they put it into two categories. you've got traditional infrastructure, as they've said, roads, bridges. these are aspects that do need fixing. we are ranked 13th in the world for infrastructure. so they are really making the case for physical infrastructure. but there's also human infrastructure, which gets at our health care system, our system of caring for disabled and elderly americans, our schools, aspects that are very, very important to our economy, democrats will argue, and to the people who -- you know, to the

the first time it was a virtual meeting with the prime minister of ireland when that happened in the atlanta area, steph. >> that speaks to where we are in this country. thank you so much. and thank you for watching. that wraps up a busy and heavy hour. i'm stephanie ruhle, hallie jackson picks up coverage, next. . with bounce pet hair & lint guard, your clothes can repel pet hair. one bounce mega sheet has 3x the hair fighting ingredients of the leading dryer sheet. simply toss into the dryer to bounce out hair & lint. look how the shirt on the left attracts pet hair like a magnet! pet hair is no match for bounce. it's available in fresh scent & unscented. with bounce, you can love your pets, and lint roll less. i'm jayson tatum. check out my subway sub with delicious turkey and crispy bacon. i'm draymond green. with my subway sub with tender steak and melty cheese. my sub will help you put points on the board, unlike some other subs. why would you say that, jayson? hey man, i'm just talkin' about subs here. oh c'mon. my sub is gonna throw down on your... my sub has more rings than your sub

major league baseball pulling its all-star game out of atlanta. put in to context if you can, how the issue of voting rights has moved in to the center, not just of the political, but the cultural conversation and you have to wonder if other states are going to take note? >> you know, i think we have seen, related to this is the trial going on in minneapolis, with the death of george floyd, we have seen a kind of racial reckoning in this country that is still going on. that involves not only law enforcement and police procedure. it involves thing-s like efforts to restrict access to the ballot box. so you had georgia pass that law. they are baying a price now. you have got the all-star game moving. you have threatened boycotts against big companies. and you see action in texas, which is the next big battleground for state laws to restrict voting with a lot of companies, i think about 200 companies today issuing statements, expressing concern about that. that means it's not just a fight that involves politicians, this is now become a fight in which

that left in our people dead, at a grocery store in boulder, colorado and string of killing at spas in atlanta earlier this month. >> it's a national embarrassment. >> reporter: authorities in indianapolis are focused on brandon scott hole. police say the 19-year-old who used to work at the fedex warehouse and took his life during the attack used two assault rifles purchased legally last summer. months early police confiscated a shotgun from hole after his mother raised concerns about his mental state. indiana's red-flag law allows police reports to seize guns from people deemed a danger. but authorities say hole was not submitted to be flagged. the biden administration is urging states to adopt and reform those red flag laws. part of the number of measures biden introduced after the colorado shooting, but the actions were limited. democrats are pushing for more, including an adult weapons ban. but gun control is usually gridlocked in washington, with some republicans arguing second amendment rights need to be protected. >> every time there's a shooting, we play this ridiculous theater. >> rep

daniels, white house reporter for politico and author politico play book and the political reporter for atlanta journal constitution. and the man who knows georgia best, eugene, there's no elected official in the state of america who clocks corporate dollars and tracks them than mitch mcconnell, cc united. what in the world is he talking about here? >> it's interesting to watch as republicans like mitch mcconnell are fighting with big business when they've been friends of big business for a long time, right? he gave this bill that corporations would invite serious consequences. but republicans don't have the same issue of republicans getting involved in politics when it comes to donations. that level of involvement in politics passes muster for republicans and always had. what we know is donation is always a way to show value, which is what the coca-cola, and mlb and all of these, delta, are saying. and the quote is had no issue in the past. as republicans have continued to try to fight mostly cancel culture wars, that is where they're going to find themselves. they're going to find themselves

and house bill 4 that's why a couple of hours from now several religious leaders here in the city of atlanta are going to be calling for a boycott against coca-cola, against delta and against a number of georgia-based companies saying that they need to do more than issue these paper statements the other thing we are seeing, steph, that's really interesting is that we are seeing black business executives come out and essentially say the same thing they're not advocating for boy cotts, i want to make that clear, but they are saying corporations have a responsibility to do more than put out statements that effort is led by ken shnut and ken frazier, former ceo of american express and current ceo of merck respectively. i spoke with both of them yesterday and they talked to me about the fact this is personal for them basically said in very strong words, companies need to directly and publicly oppose this legislation they need to bring their resources and capabilities to influence the elected officials and then added we cannot be silent, we have to speak out this really seems as though it's the ve

he's running for a county seat about an hour north of atlanta. he was a leader in the kkk and a member of the neo-nazi group, and he says he's changed. but if you really listen to his political idealogies, some aren't so sure. when did you come out are racism, because you know you have in the past. >> the banner has always been the same, left wing radicalists. >> but the ku klux klan isn't against leftist radicals, they're against black people, jews. what do you believe now that you didn't believe then? >> it just depends on who is looking at it. when i've ever read anything like that, it just seemed like they were just pro heritage. >> the ku klux klan? >> well, in some forms. but i'm not here to defend them. that was 28 years ago, and i will not spend one more day from -- i did this last year. no more apologies. >> when i was looking at social media, you had put this picture here saying jodi vow was coming to speak at one of your rallies here. this is jody vow, a racist. to me this is a nazi hand gesture. then he posted here, get in, we're hunt

i mean, pick the city, buffalo, new york city, denver, portland, atlanta -- wherever, they look like. that they look like they're going to war. they have shields. they have big equipment. and they do that because they want to let people protesting know who is in charge. who holds the authority. who will bend the need to whom. that's the point. explicitly. it's a psychological performance. >> that's what we saw in the streets of minneapolis and brooklyn center, a show of force with curfews and tear gas. flashbacks. and now just take all of that footage we've seen. before last summer, during last summer, and since, and now. take all of that. and just look for a moment at the utter in version of what happened on the steps of the capital in january. there was hardly any police presence at all. i mean, there are officers there, right? i've covered multiple protests in washington. there tends to be a lot of cops around. particularly on the mall, on the capital. but on january six, there was relatively speaking, no one there. they don't have the big man huge fits of equipment brought in. the

under stress acted, and we welcome back veteran attorney ck hoffler, she ceo of the ck hoffler firm in atlanta dealing with wrongful death cases, civil rights, litigation, also happens to be president of the national bar association, the nation's oldest network of predominantly black judges and attorneys, and for that reason, counselor, i would like to begin with you. given your line of work, your scope of the history here, does the floyd verdict, did to floyd for ticked seem like a turning point at all to you? >> first of all, good evening, brian. yes, absolutely. the floyd verdict was a turning point, is a turning point in the history of this country because it really is a small victory as it relates to a door opening for police reform. this verdict that the jury spoke loud and clearly in rendering the t-shirt the verdict on all three counts, that was justice for the floyd family in this country because, after all, what we saw was nine minutes and 29 seconds of a police of this are, derek chauvin, killing, murdering, brutally, george floyd, and that just has to stop. that was a tipping point

i remember actually going to the presidential library, carter's library in atlanta and walking around like a mondale geek, i'm looking for joan's dress and those kinds of things from the inauguration. on the wall, i see these words that were actually the words that mondale uttered shortly after they lost, summarizing their four years. and he said, "we told the truth. we obeyed the law. we kept the peace." and that was a lot of my touchtone during the trump years. i had written that down in a piece of paper and put it in my purse. we told the truth, obeyed the law and kept the peace. jimmy carter and walter modale were men of integrity. they bonded on that. what was school having worked for mondale at the law firm afterwards and back on side of my races, including the presidential race, i got to see how the two of them kept talking through time. they would work on things together. carter came out from a funeral just a few years ago and he traveled to minnesota and spoke at her funeral. their friendship strengthened after they left office. >> michael beschloss, it was my privilege at my

images and these devastating murders of unarmed black americans and also what recently happened in atlanta, an instance of white supremacy and misogyny against the aapi community. this recovery needs to be one that is trauma informed and we need to make sure there are resources that people can get help that they need, eliminate those barriers and i'm calling for my children act to be a framework within that. in that this is black maternal health week, we are sitting in the disparate health outcomes and the racial injustices, this is another issue. my grandmother died in the 1950s in child birth and the fact that right now in 2021 that black women could still be four times more likely to die in child birth or in birthing complications is simply unacceptable and those concerns and those realities have only worsened under the pandemic which is why i've introduced the covid-19 safe birthing act to ensure that there are those protections because ensuring a safe pregnancy should be a fundamental human right and not a privilege. >> as i listen to you talk, part of what i am struck by is that we a

one taking place at a grocery store in boulder, colorado, the other happening at multiple spas in the atlanta area. mass shootings in the u.s. are defined as incidents in which four or more people are injured or killed. as of yesterday there have been 147 mass shootings in the country since the beginning of this year. we're just in april. much more coming up on "velshi." the war in afghanistan has cost tens of thousands of lives an $2 trillion. now president biden is vowing to get all u.s. troops out almost 20 years after they were sent in. >>> and the u.s. government unveiling new sanctions against key russian figures and intelligence services this week. what rising tensions between the u.s. and russia could mean for the global balance of power. >>> yesterday marked 100 days since the january 6th attack on the capitol. we're learning prosecutors are getting their first guilty plea. details when "velshi" returns. (mom) it sure is. (mom vo) over the years, we trusted it to carry and protect the things that were most important to us. (mom) good boy. (mom vo) we always knew we had a lot of life

american rescue plan but that trip changed drastically following the deadly mass shootings at three atlanta area spas. six of the eight people killed were asian american women and the focus shifted to the spike in asian american hate since the start of the pandemic. biden's 100 day in office comes amid the aftermath of former police officer derek chauvin being found guilty in a court of law of murdering george floyd. and as we as a country and a community continue to take stock of where things stand for the future of policing, justice and accountability. a stark report from the associated press reveals in the 24 hours after the chauvin verdict, there were at least six more police killings across the united states with various circumstances surrounding each of them. they include 16-year-old makiyah bryant in ohio. the following body camera footage may be disturbing. the officer responding to a report of a disturbance. physically struggling with women in a driveway. appears to be wielding a knife and shot four times by the officer. just ten seconds elapsed from the time the officer exits his

that sporting events may leave the state because of it like we saw the mlb move the all-star game from atlanta to denver? yeah. that's possible. i think these companies should be very aware of that and the state legislature and the governor should be very aware of that. >> you know, i want to ask you to stay with us. i want to bring donna into this conversation. you know, donna, it strikes me and everyone that watches this show knows i still watch republicans to try to understand what they think they're doing. and it's clear that they don't even think of what they're doing is what they're doing. they don't think that there is an election security crisis in this country. and you know that because the smart ones go on tv and they lie about what is in the bills. and what's in the georgia law, i mention this to the secretary, is this really frightening measure that would disempower a person who happens to be a republican. the secretary of state. i wonder if you can sort of break down what's in this bill, the texas version, that gives you the most pause. >> well, i mean, i think one of the things i

. >>> when we come back, the decision to move the mlb all-star game out of atlanta continues to reverberate across sports and politics today. the finger pointing is just beginning of who's responsible for any harm it could do to georgia's economy, but democrats say the issue is even bigger than that. >>> plus, with the pandemic striking country on an ice edge with the threat of a potential fourth wave, republicans seem once again intent ongoing after anthony fauci. yep, all that when "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. nues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer. ♪ ♪ i feel free to bare my skin yeah, that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin, ♪ ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ achieve clearer skin with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way it's my moment ♪ ♪ so

certainly not for home depot, operating in atlanta, and the donation that they made to the establishment of the civil rights museum. when it appears to be in their interests, many of these organizations and corporations will say that we are in favor of civil rights. we loved dr. king. we support john lewis, et cetera, et cetera, except when there are contemporaneous issues about standing up to make sure the things those people were fighting against aren't becoming part of our present politic. >> stick around for a minute. i've got more to discuss with you after a quick break, errin and jelani. stay with us. jelani stay with us the rx crafted by lexus. get 0.9% apr financing on the 2021 rx 350 experience amazing at your lexus dealer. you're clearly someone who takes care of yourself. so why wait to screen for colon cancer? because when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. tell me more. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false

the white man who just killed the people in the asian spa in atlanta, they took him alive. but yet when you have a black person who ain't killed nobody, they shoot first and ask questions later. >> see, chief, the problem that i have with he had a split second decision, the parkland killer just killed a bunch of people. police took a lot more than a second deciding what they're going to do before they calmly took him into custody. the guy who shot up multiple spas, you knew he had a gun because he killed a bunch of people. when they rolled up on him, they had a reasonable case that he had a gun and might have killed them. they didn't use the gun fast. with this 13-year-old child they didn't wait ten seconds before opening up on him like it was a drive-by. he didn't wait to assess what that child was doing and that child was standing there with his hands up with nothing in them. that's the reason that people don't buy that he had a split-second decision. >> no, and joy, fundamentally i agree with you. i made the same arguments very publicly. i've become a pariah somewhat in

and number three, are now starting wars with atlanta's most important businesses. but doing so well, claire. >> yeah, they really are. you know, mika, i want to go back to mitch mcconnell's statement. mitch mcconnell's statement had a remarkable phrase in it. he said the republicans were going to oppose this bill because it was going to tax the most productive sections of our economy. those were his words. so what he's saying is really remarkable because he's saying if you make less than $400,000 a year, you're not that productive. he's saying it's just the rich people in america that are productive. well, that doesn't sound like a trump message to me. that's not populism. hard working people in this country are the backbone of this country. that's what joe biden campaigned on. so when he equates productivity with wealth, i'm telling you, that's some political problems for the republican party if that's the position they maintain throughout this debate on trying to do something about roads and bridges and infrastructure and schools and all the things this bill repr

it comes months after the atlanta spa shootings that killed a total of eight people, including six women of asian descent. vicky nguyen has been all over this story since the beginning. it's personal. how would this bill directly help members of the aapi community? >> hey, good morning, steph. if it passes, the covid-19 hate crimes act would signal to people in the aapi community that you matter, that we at the federal level recognize what asian americans have gone through over this past year, which is being the target of racism linked to coronavirus. if you breakdown the bill and actually look at basically the four parts and things it's really calling for, yes, one, expediting the review of hate crimes by the justice department, two, going and giving resources to agencies across the country at the local level to help them educate people about what is a hate crime, how do you report a hate crime, and doing that in multiple languages. it also calls for the denouncing and condemnation of racism and rhetoric against asians. i think really the most important part of this act would be the exp

it wasn't a fear or lies that motivated major league baseball to move the all-star game from atlanta. active mounting pressure to take a stand on behalf of voting rights sentiment that caught fire across corporate america, thanks to a spark from 72 black executives lead by the former head of american express and ken fraser, the ceo of merk. they called on companies to use all of their clout and resources to publicly oppose new laws that restrict the rights of black voters, including the lawed signed in georgia last week. their efforts were endorsed by nearly 200 executives from companies like microsoft, target, twitter, and uber. they signed a joint statement condemning the republican-led efforts to restrict voting say, quote, "if our government is going to work for all of us, each of us must have equal freedom to vote." joining me now is darren walker, president of the ford foundation who is among the black executives who signed a full page letter that appeared in the "new york times" calling on corporations to take a stand. thank you very much for coming back to the sunday show. >>

so our partner with the pharmacy in the west end, the rougher part of atlanta and we're out there, going to make it happen for people to get the vaccine right in their neighborhoods so it's very easy. >> now, we talked a lot -- go ahead. >> it has been more difficult for blacks to get the vaccine because people are not doing what damon does. initially only the physicians and medical providers could get it, then the older people. a lot of people did get left behind. >> we talked a lot about the importance of regular testing and the lead up to the commitment march with the vaccine rolling out now. what is the importance of continued testing and other mitigation strategies? >> it is just as important now as it was before. this disease is still killing people and still killing black people in disproportionate numbers than others. it's just as important to wear your mask, just as important to get tested. the vaccine will keep you from getting severe illness or death in most cases, but it doesn't mean you cannot contract the disease nor pass this disease on, so we still need to know whether yo

as major league baseball pulled the all-star game and their players draft from atlanta. in direct response to georgia republicans radically rolling back voting rights in that state. a lot of reporting today about how civil rights groups have advocated for this kind of bold action to stand up for voting rights. less reporting on the fact that the major league baseball players' association had been pressuring the league to make this move. players have been at the front end of the thing the whole time. last night we reported on a rush of major corporations. dell, delta, coca-cola, all of them coming out and criticizing the anti-voting bills and new laws in republican controlled states. today, a group of ceos for more than 100 companies, uber, target, snapchat, paypal, they all came out along the same lines. quote, every american should have a voice in our democracy, and voting should be safe and accessible. americans must have equal freedom to vote. elections must reflect the will of the voters. our elections are not improved when lawmakers impose barriers that result in lo

you think about the young man who went and shot up the people in the asian spa in atlanta. they took him alive, arthur, and then my lord, not too far from here in bakari's home state this young white boy named dylann roof went and shot up the whole church and literally, they chased him across state lines into north carolina and they not only took him alive, but they took him to burger king to get a burger and a fry, but andrew brown, they shoot him in the back and we're going to see the video to see what they're trying to hide from all of you all because the truth can't hide forever and a lie cannot live forever. >> i gave you all an assignment and i need you to follow through. i know you're filming, but take it out. i have joe manchin's number right here. it's 202-224-3954. >> 202-224-3954. call his office and tell them we're tired of black folks dying and kyrsten sinema's on. >> say the number once for for joe manchin. 202-224-3954 and kyrsten sinema is 202-224-4521. and just call the office and tell them how you feel. let me turn it over to harry. harry has an update for

if i think about the hospitality industry, i was talking with three restaurant owners here in atlanta just last week who are struggling to find workers as business is coming back online. and we had a lot of conversations about how important it is to train managers. the owners of restaurants, large hospitality companies, no matter how noble the ceo, they are not in those units every day. they're not hiring, they're not coaching, they're not addressing or promoting. so putting the effort on training frontline managers who can do a phenomenal job of attracting, retaining and developing women from within, that is a secret sauce to some of these policies having an impact on the frontline level. >> alex carder, i'm going to go to you but you can take a question to deens, it might be the same one. what is your advice to women right now in terms of approaching getting back in, but they still have a home that is literally defending upon them with kids, the potential positive work remote, the issues of starting all over again when they were completely displaced, which is traumatic? >> you know,

mayor bottoms, mayor of atlanta. there are people outside the state saying we're not comfortable going in there, so major league all-star game responded not because the values were offended so much so, but players themselves said we don't want to go to a place where we feel unwelcome or a where our voice can't be heard and can't vote. we'll see how hollywood responds because that's an interesting split that we see right now and they don't want to take jobs from front line workers and the jobs will be there, just a different state will get those jobs. >> all right. let me thank both of you for being with us. jerry sonnenfeld and michael walden. my thanks to both of you. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. ext, my final thous stay with us , it's more treatab. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. tell me more. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask y

ever let the system off the hook, whether it's in columbus, whether it's in minnesota, whether it's in atlanta, georgia, whether it's in my hometown of st. louis, missouri. all of american policing has to be put on trial because until we get past the place of accountability and fully to the place of prevention, we still have work to do. >> clint, it's scary, as brittany said. it's also completely misreading the systems that undergird this. republican senator tim scott told nbc news there are four sticking points in the george floyd act for him. ending qualified immunity, restricting no knock warrants and the use of former defense department weapons and banning the choke hold. without those elements, can you really call it reform? >> i don't think so. and i think that part of what we have to understand is that this act is important. and it is important as a means of harm mitigation, as a means of preventing further violence from being enacted against people in this moment. but it is not in and of itself the answer. outside of the criminal legal system, it's hard to think of any other places in

we, of course, don't have any evidence of that yet, he last played in the nfl back in 2015 for the atlanta falcons. >>> so, more gun control measures are coming. that is the message from jim clyburn today. this is coming as president biden unveiled a half dozen executive actions to curb gun violence this week, including limiting access to stabilizing braces and homemade guns without serial numbers. clyburn said on msnbc today that congress can pass a bipartisan bill to go further following multiple mass shootings. >> why is it so important to get a gun in three days? who's wrong with ten days? we'll wait 30 days to get something in the mail when we order it online. there's nothing about having a gun within ten days that's so important. >> and while democrats suggest ways to prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands, republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is giving away a free gun. she posted the raffle online saying, quote, this, my gun giveaway ends soon, be sure to enter to win it before joe biden tries to ban it. wow. >>> okay, i want to bring in nbc's scott cohn in san jo

it's clear punishment for baseball's decision to move the summer's all-star game out of atlanta. joining our conversation is marketing and branding expert donny deutsch. michael steele, still here. donny deutsch, you proved to be right. i was skeptical that the business community had sort of the steel in the spine for a fight with republicans, but it appears as of today that they do. >> hey, guys. great to see you, nicole. professor steele. always great to be here. if you're looking at a five-year business plan, here's what they're looking at in their businesses. they're looking by the year 2021, do i look foggy? something wrong or is it just my -- >> a little bit. do you want to wipe your -- you look a little foggy. give a little wipe. >> all right, just a little wipe here, okay? >> live tv in the time of zoom. >> okay, yeah. >> all right. >> you know, they're looking at five-year business plan. >> it's better. >> nicole, i'm sorry. you have such a great show and i always come on and it goes off the rails a little bit, you know? you got serious people like professor steele on, a

it is a choice we are making as a nation in the face of the shootings at the spa in atlanta, in the face of the shootings in the market in boulder, in the face of shootings every single day in the city of philadelphia. it's a choice some are making to do nothing in this country. i refuse to accept that and that's why we're leading on this ghost gun issue and many other issues to try and keep people safe. >> josh shapiro is the attorney general of pennsylvania. josh, as always, thanks for joining us. >>> i want to turn to the start of week three of the murder trial of fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin. the prosecution is expected to rest this week. so far upward of 30 people have taken the stand several of whom agree that george floyd died last may because he couldn't breathe. >> the cause of death is a low level of oxygen that caused the brain damage and caused the heart to stop. >> mr. floyd died from position al asphyxia, which is a fancy way of saying he died because he had no oxygen left in his body. >> the primary mechanism was asphyxia or low oxygen. >> while the evide

from southern california all the way to atlanta, there's 4 million -- approximately 4 million is my understanding people who drink some form of recycled waste water. and i should be clear, it's not just toilet water, it's shower water like mayor garcetti said, stuff that goes down in your front yard through the sewage system. toilet is the most fun to talk about. but this would double that in the united states of america. it's hard to state how significant it is. also, you feel proud of it, what you flush becomes what everybody else drinks. >> i'm not sure that's the best sales pitch. it's not just toilet water, it's also your shower water! but good idea. see how it plays out there. great report, jacob. thank you very much. >> that's amazing. i think he should have drunk the whole glass. >> i bet he did. i bet he chugged. >> you've got to have a lot of water. >>> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >>> hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. it's thursday, april 22nd, and this morning the nation begins to move on from the george floyd verdict and focusing on

come down on decisions like the recent one from major league baseball to move the all-star game out of atlanta in response to the georgia law? >> i think it was a courageous act for the league to take a bold stand. i think it's important for other entertainment outlets such as major league baseball to really consider how they want to be seen when they look back in history in this moment. how -- would any corporation want to be measured in terms of where are they going to stand? are they going to stand toward furthering our democracy, being a more inclusive society and allowing for all individuals to have equal protection under the law, or are they going to repeat history to try to force down our throat a reality that is inconsistent with the constitution and immoral. >> there was a lot of blowback, especially on the right, for president biden in calling these laws jim crow on steroids. is that a fair description? >> it is absolutely fair description. you know, i live in mississippi. i understand what voter suppression looks like. and what it looks like is what we're witnessing in georgia. it i

legislative process and georgia earlier this year thinking that they could kind of deal with this in the atlanta way of business to kind of working with republicans under the gold dome. that didn't work. so now, you've got, and this is moving into other states. you're already seeing in texas, corporations that are being kind of more publicly proactive in condemning these kinds of laws and really just kind of rallying around the idea that if america is a democracy, this country was built on a democracy, why should the idea of voting and voting rights be partisan? if corporations of people that those people should seek out in favor of voting rights. and so i think the, it was a failed strategy to kind of get this resolved behind closed doors and so now, advocates are putting the pressure on these companies to really take up an old fight in a new day by pressuring these people before these lawmakers had a chance to pass these laws to try to really shame them into doing what can be the right thing economically, if not morally. >> errin hains, you sound like a poet, doing the wrong thing in a new way

go read how i became an abolitionist in the atlanta pernell and think about the fact that abolition is not just about what we replace, but it is also about how we build a world that leads with care instead of control and justice instead of punishment. it doesn't have to scare us if we allow it to excite us. we get the privilege and opportunity to build a world that works for all of us. that is how we have to address this from every single press conference to every single case to how we approach this thing at a systemic level. >> paul, i want to bring you in on following those great points that brittany just made. something our viewers should know, they were serving a search warrant to mr. brown at the time that he was shot. i found it interesting that they were clear that hey, this was not us and this was the sheriff's office doing this and what's the process in that. how would you decide what agency would execute a search warrant to people like that and how often are these serving of warrants deadly? do we even have that data. >> we don't have that data because policing in the united