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pedestrians. when i see these new infrastructural improvements like this, i think about my own family members who still live in this district today, and i think about how it'll make them feel safer crossing the street in their own neighborhoods. new infrastructure like this is crucial in making the south of market a safer place to live, to work, and to play as we move towards reopening our city. a decade is way too long to wait to bring needed improvements in safety in soma. people deserve to feel safe walking and biking of our city streets. we look forward to being able to celebrate more with you in the near future. we wouldn't be here today without our 10,000 members,
supervisor matt haney, and former district 6 supervisor jane kim. thank you to director jeff tumlin, and special thanks to the community partners like alice rogers from the south beach community association. without further adieu, i'd like to bring back the director to get this program going. [applause] >> thank you, clare. without any further ado, let's get down to doing the things that we came here to do, and let's cut that ribbon.
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thank you, secretary hom. we're now going to move into item three. presentation on fy 21-22 budget proposals for the use of ocoh fund by the department of homelessness and supportive housing and the department of public health, including updated from committee liaisons recording budget proposals, with possible action by the committee. we're actually going to hear from our liaisons, and our first liaison will be julie. >> [inaudible] 'cause i can sort of provide the framework, the impact and accountability on the feedback side and other people will give, like, more detail responses [inaudible]. >> yes. thank you, vice president
d'antonio. >> okay. everyone, i'm just going to pull up some notes that i have. okay. so, yeah, so really excited. just wanted to kick off the liaison reports because a lot of what folks will be reporting back on are things that were really created based on feedback that we've been receiving? we've been hosting or, like, other orgs have been hosting, but we've been attending a lot of listening session. we've gotten feedback from over 750 community members, and of that, a little over 400 folks would give experiences, so that's super, super exciting to see this through. so i just wanted to thank all of the committee members, all of the community members who
excited. tipping point to collect the feedback, so i just wanted to share this with you all. i think i wanted to share just, like, four main points broadly that we heard. which was, like, as far as what should the committee prioritize. permanent housing solutions, a wider range of housing and shelter options that meet people where they are, not where we want them to be. housing interventions and realize that a one size fits all doesn't work. [inaudible] or individuals who require any light touch services. many community members express concerns that our system does not serve either of these populations well, and so that's just some things that are occurring through all of our sessions. one session in particular that i wanted to shout out was our glide session, where we had own
250 respondents in the experience, and it was a really great basically day-long event, but yeah, i'm excited to share the details with you all. and i just wanted to share that this is all going to be in a report that we've made public. things that can be in prop c, thing that are more policy oriented but that we're hearing over and over, and also, things that can't be funded through prop c but we think that the city should still take a look at and still look at investing in. so what i'll be covering today is really what can be funded through prop c and then in different categories, and then, each liaison will report back within their individually a son
duties, so whether that's prevention or housing funding. okay. just going to -- umm...umm... sorry. okay. so the way it's divided is into single adults, families with children, youth and young adults, and the glide survey participants. i just want to shoutout that within that are recommendations for homeless shelter and hygiene services, so, really, that 10% of the prop c funding. as far as for adults, we're looking at more services available at safe sleeping sites, safe parking sites, nav centers for folks more
shelters, wraparound services in shelters, s.i.p. hotels, more showers, laundry, toilets in other facilities, and then different types of kong greggate shelters, so pod homes -- congregate shelters, so pod shelters, tiny homes. for families with children, dedicated sleeping sites for families, hotels. some families are spending months in emergency shelters that aren't designed for longer term stays, and that can be very traumatizing on a [inaudible] and everyone serves safe and dignified housing. and then additional shelter capacity for d.v. survivors. s.i.p. hotels have worked
really well for families, so we should be looking at funding things that have a similar model. and then, as for as for k, there needs to be more dedicated k facilities outside of the tenderloin, and i think we got that for reentry, just more services for our populations that are outside of the tenderloin. and then, also, for t.a.y., more outreach, places where t.a.y. can have greater support, and outreach in neighborhoods that are typically overlooked. for glide participants, what really ranked high was safe sleeping spaces, rest rooms, tent spaces, and r.v. parks. so yeah, that was some of the findings that i wanted to report back to you all, and i'm going to turn it over to our
individual liaisons for individual funding as well as discussing the different city departments, so thank you. oh, you know what? i actually forget to say one thing. i'm so sorry. one other feedback was we got around [inaudible] folks. we had over 400 responses in feedback, and a lot of providers as well as community members expressed, like, being paid or their feedback, and as a committee, a lot of us agree that experts should be paid as experts for their feedback and for their time, so we are trying to design a community action board or some way to involve folks and pay them for
their time for the experts that they are. we've been really focused on capturing the feedback, but we're also looking at paying people for being part of the process. so i just wanted to point that out. thank you. >> thank you, vice president d'antonio for all of your hard work, and we're now going to move onto the behavioral health liaison brett andrews. member andrews? >> just like chair d'antonio was talking about, many, many events and great feedback, and i participated just this week with some tenderloin provider and legal aid providers, and it's just been rich, robust
discussion. what is very clear to me, even hearing member d'antonio's report, there are some common things that we are just going to say bubble up, and the challenge will be our courage and will and intention to make these things move forward. this isn't just a one-off, these are things that people are experiences in the system. so with that, i just want to give a shoutout to also all of the members, and member nagendra, as well. i want to thank you for helping me through the process and the tipping point, as well. some of the things that come
out are street-based and mobile outreach, meeting people where they are. and funding one-on-one therapist sessions and support for people who are coming out of psych emergency treatment and treatment centers. it seems that there is a significant amount of restrictions for many of the -- for access to many of these services. we also heard that there should be more beds and bringing more beds on-line, increased
treatment beds and treatment programs. and there is a [inaudible] a couple more that i'll just mention, and i know we're going to get into more of the detail over the hour-plus is our community. more trauma informed services. this was a big one, and one in which i felt was important, as the stakeholders, as well.
more support in the workforce, ways that we may have to support them that we may not have in years past. low barrier threshold services. lots of folks recognize the benefit and the value in connecting with a peer who's been there and can share in that experience and give a voice to what you're going through right now. and lastly, creating a workforce for those in stable housing right now. why not take it the extra mile and make sure they have opportunities to engage in all the ways in which we engage on this call right now? so more in terms of workforce development programs.
and with that, i'm just going to turn it back over to chair williams, and looking forward to rich and robust discussion in the hour-plus. >> thank you, member andrews. we'll know go to the homelessness prevention liaison, member leadbetter. >> good morning, everybody. i think it's great to be here. [inaudible] over the past few weeks, and just want to thank everybody for all the work. i know that [inaudible] that it's been a big lift for everybody. this is exciting to here the behavioral health stuff in the area that i haven't been involved in, but i agree, a lot of crossover and a lot of
building what is seeming like a really great and exciting proposal for community-based work, particularly communities of color, and i just want to give a shoutout to all the work for that and all the regional efforts going on, and it seems to all be coming together at this point [inaudible] to what the communities have been asking for. so in the prevention section, it sort of breaks down to these subcategories of targeted prevention for extremely low-income and at-risk folks, and the priorities could be rent funding, case management, and we're hearing from the community that people want more flexible funding, including security deposits, utilities,
back rent, emergency rental assistance. that funding should last longer, more upstream interventions. automatic triggers such as missed utility bill or rent bills to unlock the program. every provider should be asking about housing status, so really using our behavioral health care systems, using our health care systems, using our schools as points so we can understand where people are at with their housing and meet them there. a lot of attention for queer and trans people and
specifically calling out 94134 and 94124. really utilizing community-based organizations, and more flexibility for problem-solving dollars. i think we've seen a lot of movement in this direction, and i think people are embracing that and asking for more. the victim prevention prosecute housing stabilization [inaudible] for more flexibility in the funding, so a lot of meeting people where they're at and just being really creative at that time of need. protections for nonleaseholders, target populations for [inaudible] placements, focusing on those. a lot of interest in flexible shallow subsidy pool. we do have some of these programs currently in place, and i think really highlighting
on those, building on those. you can use housing subsidies as a lighter touch for people that don't need deeply, deeply subsidized housing. workforce development. a lot of them should have workforce development and so asking for housing statuses, is [inaudible] and personalized approach. sometimes a one size fits all approach doesn't work, so more is needed. that was the feedback coming from the adults. for families and children,
we're looking to go upstream for more intervention. families need more in that case to are able to stay in san francisco. flexible, flexible, flexible, money being used for things like hotel stays. legal services beyond rent eviction, custody battles and things like that. [inaudible] i think there's a conversation to be had here with the housing spending and the prevention spending and how we can, you know, potentially use some of these prevent
dollars to have preventions, if need be, like, up to 25%. we don't have to use the whole thing. for youth and young adults, greater flexibility and funds available for rental assistance, nonleaseholders, funding for things other than lease. again, bigger pot of money for problem solving. everybody wants problem solving, and everybody does problem solving, so i think it's exciting to see this proposal doing -- you know, spread problem solving resources to beyond the access points. peer led resources for youth. a lot of interest in that, as well as workforce, rusing various plamt. small site -- producing various
employment. small site acquisitions, and a lot of interest in direct cash transfer, so really looking at what that will bring to the community. so thank you, again, to everybody who's participating in this, and really exciting to keep moving forward with these homelessness prevention proposals. thanks. >> thank you so much, member leadbetter. we'll now go to member friedenbach. >> okay. can everybody hear me? >> yes. >> okay. i'm going to do this a little different. i'm going to walk-through the different needs and some of the different policy questions because this is the one area
that we actually expended money so folks have a lot of questions about where we're at for it, so i thought it would set us up for all of the conversation to include, like, a quick review as well as the input, as well. so in terms of the feedback on homeless shelters and hygiene, i think member d'antonio did a nice job going through a lot of this. just going to add some to it. just knowing that, you know, events like glide, we had a lot fewer people -- [indiscernible] >> -- so housing came up much higher, so just context allizing it a little bit. in terms of emergency services, folks were talking about more
services at safe sleeping sites, reminding folks we have safe sleeping villages and safe sleeping sites. nav centers for justice involved people, more services at shelter and nav services. [inaudible] >> s.i.p. hotels came through. [inaudible] >> thank you. go ahead, member friedenbach. so we could go through the
[inaudible] talking about having the same level of congregate shelters, and s.i.p. was mentioned. and, you know, t.a.y. facilities for youth, and trying to get outreach to youth in neighborhoods that are overlooked, like the southeast part of the city. for the glide survey participants, really, you know, what popped up, the highest was the public showers. tent villages, and r.v. parks.
i want to kind of just move over to our slide show if we could, laura, if you don't mind pulling it up so i could just walk you through an update. >> i'm sorry. it wasn't on the agenda, so i wasn't prepared to -- we do have projections on the website of what the controller's office has extended so far, so that was shared with the agenda and is on the website, as well, so the in terms of how much funds has been extended through the fund previously. >> yeah, that's not -- i mean, i was trying to walk people through what's been extended. this is not new information. this was previously shared
through the previous needs. if we can't do this, i'll try to walk-through this possibly. if folks remember, i just want to remind people, when we went through the immediate needs, we had several recommendations from the department of public health that came to us. we did not feel that, as a body, we had enough time to really dig in on those and find out exactly how many were going to house people, so we recommended just one of those recommendations, which was the -- basically the expanding mental health and substance abuse treatment beds, and that was about a $4 million expenditure that we were recommending. when it got to the budget and finance committee, they ended up funding all of the items for one year -- for the remainder
of this fiscal year. that included the fiscal crisis, urgent care. it included crisis care management and care coordination. it included a smaller amount of an expansion that was what was originally recommended on the 1380 howard, the 24-hour pharmacy, and they moved some of that over to the purchase of a boarding care facility. so what you will see is in the d.p.h. presentation, there was operating cost of about $2 million out of the funding from the board of supervisors, so they're asking for annualization of those, so that's going to bump up pretty
significantly, especially in fiscal year 21-22 to a much higher amount. so it would be going up from -- you know, up to about $44 million annual expenditure with those, so that's a pretty significant, you know, thing that we need to think about as a body. for the h.s.h. piece of things, the -- the on going -- basically we funded -- as you may recall, we recommended funding for people in the s.i.p. hotels for phase one and two. we wanted to wait and not put the third and fourth phase of the hotels because we wanted to see the assessment because there was a very small
assessment that had been done, and speculation of who would fall into which categories. so at this point in time, it's looking like we're not going to need to make adjustments to phases three and four, and we have some policy options of releasing those funds immediately or rolling it into next year's budget, so we can decide where we would want to go there. again, those expenditures, though, for phase one and two, those funds, when we funded those, those assumed that these were going to be going continuously. because it was a smaller amount, that that amount of funding would go up pretty significantly. so that -- you know, so if we're looking at, you know, the housing expenditures, we did
permanent subsidies, and then, you know, we did two-year subsidies, those would be shorter-term investments, and then, we have the longer term investments that are just subsidies. we did some for seniors, some for families, and then some for single adults. so those investments we assumed would be on going as planned. and so we have -- we also invested in long-term subsidies in folks in the bayview. so i wanted to just update, so those long-term investments that we've done of people in the s.i.p. hotels, those have not hit the streets yet.
they have not come to fruition in terms of families moving out of the bayview, nor have they come to fruition for people in the housing plan. only 34% of the people have been housed, and we can get, later in the meeting, a more detailed update on that. what that means is face one and april 1, you're going to have to do about 200 a month to house people coming out of the s.i.p. hotel. so i wanted to present on that and be super transparent on that because i know there's a lot of questions around that. in phase three and four, we could, you know, we would basically not make any adjustments to the categories.
there may be some question about the subsidy amounts, and so there may be that, you know, we didn't do the right amount of what it's going to cost people, especially to get people into the housing, so that might be something we revisit. the other thing that i wanted to point out is we extended the s.i.p. hotels. we put in 12.7 million to extend the s.i.p. hotels. we will get that money back from fema, so part of that expenditure is coming back. i wanted to give you some of the grand -- so the grand total that we're spending on housing -- this is not the backfill that we're going to be digging into on a future date that we're planning to come together, but the stuff we decided, the grant total on housing, is about $20 million that we funded through the
board of supervisors, and then, it goes up to 25.5 in future years, and that includes the moneys from the one-time that we did around the worker bonuses, etc. and then, the emergency shelter that we proactively did, this is another big policy question for you. instead of $13 million, what we voted for was to extend the r.v.s at moscone, like the s.i.p. shelters, and the safe sleeping sites to october 1, and that's another policy question. would we want to continue funding those out of the our city, our home fund or not, so that's actually a huge policy question for us, i feel like. so i just kind of wanted to identify people.
friedenbach. i wanted to give member miller a chance to speak, or other immediate needs liaison. >> thank you. i actually think jennie did a really good job of covering everything. we're just trying to be very thoughtful about everything that's out there and make sure, you know, that everybody is represented, you know, and so i i think, yeah. i just really can't add anything to what jennie said, so thank you. >> thank you. we will now go to our housing acquisition liaison, member
reggio. >> appreciation to andrea adams for her work and her colleagues' work in pulling together our results, which makes it much easier for us to report. regarding solutions, people want additional housing. they want the oversight committee to recommend funding for new developments as well as the acquisition and rehabilitation of vacant and underused hotels and apartment buildings. they favor projects like smaller site developments. i think that was mentioned by one of you in your reports.
it doesn't mean that exclusively, but to that, also, larger developments don't work for everyone. they want to see housing not only in the tenderloin and the south of market, but they want other parts of the city, as well, to be available to that purpose and pay particular attention to the needs of folks that are in the bayview and don't necessarily want to move downtown in order to be housed. the folks providing feedback, wants housing specifically tailored to the needs of older populations, mothers with children or transitional aged
house, persons of color, of transgender women. there are a couple of meetings that some of us are going to be attending there was emphasis on housing barriers and applying and speeding that up. there was broad agreement that housing has to cater to the broader needs of the population served. one side -- size does not fit
all. there was discussion of ready access for substance use and mental health treatment services are needed even after one is housed, and there should be options for on-site care, particularly for the asian population and supportive housing. and i think i would be remiss if i didn't highlight the feedback from the housing policy committee, to ensure funding adequate to support the maintenance operations, fair salaries for staff, and services for the thousands of former workers in our portfolio.
all of our [inaudible] and the need for a supportive housing approach [inaudible] adequately funding their houses needs and -- needs and services, and i look forward to [inaudible]. >> thank you so much, member reggio. we'll now go to our system modelling and investment planning liaison, cynthia nagendra. >> if i could jump in, i'm sorry, member nagendra, we're going to [inaudible]. >> at the risk of repeating what others have said, i want to deeply thank the committee members for their work.
this is an insane amount of work creating these sessions, attending these sessions, and tipping point. i also want to thank all of our city partners who helped us get to this point. thanks to the leadership of vice president d'antonio and members of this committee. i just wanted to say thank you, and it is an honor to be a part of this group. i'm actually just going to give a continuation of some of the housing feedback that we got from some of these various groups, and i will just back through the part that member reggio did not cover. we heard this throughout, and i think many members have said this, we are hearing themes that throughout subpopulations,
through different groups and different systems that really align very well, and they actually align with the city department policies, as well. i want to frame this by saying a lot of this is coming from not only the listening sessions but the surveys we had at glide, which was a fantastic event. so the flexible expansion, while a lot of folks are getting to understand what that means [inaudible] for a lot of folks who are starting to get what that means more, we hear a lot more in the adult population and in the county population for expanding this, so these are the [inaudible] for public rate housing, and it also allows for housing outside the tenderloin and all over the city. [inaudible] is proving to be really effective, and so expanding that is something
that we've heard across groups, especially for adults and families and t.a.y., as well. so we did hear from criminal justice, from survivors of domestic violence and that system about transitional housing or bridge housing, so we heard a lot from criminal justice, service providers as well as many experts in that sectors as sort of needing more exits from that, but also having more access to permanent housing. the step-up housing for d.v. survivors is really important and long-term settings so that people can access housing. in supportive services for housing, ken covered this, [inaudible] to help stabilize them, and some other feedback here as different populations
require different services. we've heard this. not one size fits all. sometimes, we've heard a bit of gender specific [inaudible] we've heard across the board having more options outside of supportive housing, so shell subsidies, [inaudible] all of these different options that we can individualize housing options for people. in the permanent housing category, families with children, dedicated housing for young mothers with children that would have extremely low barriers, for families worried about separation or other kinds of people, and then perhaps real estate set aside to develop new sites. again, the flexible expansion and longer term, so adding longer term to rapid rehousing and also perhaps tailoring that
with a shallow subsidy. we are seeing that work in the veteran population, so we're seeing examples of how that can work really work. other programs to target housing in san francisco so we're not sending folks out of san francisco as regularly [inaudible] together with their support networks here. in the young adult category, again, similar -- similarly, more youth housing options that can be maintained in the tenderloin and soma neighborhoods. focus on housing for young parents and more t.a.y. dedicated rapid rehousing. in terms of housing, two years is sometimes not enough. longer supported, longer term
reports [inaudible] more supportive services. i wanted to just highlight that the glide survey of 250 people, and for the folks that were there, i have some pictures that i'll show on my way to presentation [inaudible] so out of the 250 folks that responded, almost 80 people said [inaudible] and then shared housing got over 50 responses for permanent housing options. so i will, again, reiterate -- i know we're kind of all listening -- this will all be made public in a report for everyone listening, so thank you so much.
>> thank you so much, member nagendra. we're now going to go to the department of homelessness and supportive housing, so i'm going to invite director cohen, if she is here. all right. >> hi. wonderful. thank you, chair williams, thank you, committee members. my name is emily cohen, and i'm the director of affairs for department of homelessness and supportive housing. i've had some connection issues this morning, so let me know if i'm still having issues. laura is going to share some slides. so i am here representing the department of homelessness and supportive housing. i'm joined by gigi whitley, who will help me field questions as
well as my colleagues from the department of public health. so we're going to share some of our ideas for funding that i think are incredibly aligned with your vision and what we've heard at the listening session, and then we're going to have a discussion. so the city and the housing committee shared a goal of improving services, extending services to people experiencing homelessness, and ultimately ending homelessness in our community. this presentation is intended to share the city's priorities and open up a discussion about how the city and our city, our home can achieve these shared goals and visions together. the our city, our home committee has outlined these four goals of permanently
housing people, providing services, and creating emergency services, drop-in services for people experiencing homelessness, and we are going to walk you through some of our ideas that how we can work with you to achieve some of these goals. i think from a program and member model perspective, we're quite aligned in the vision going forward. as you likely know, in july of last year, the mayor released a homeless recovery plan for the fact that people who are unsheltered reinforced our commitment to people [inaudible] in shelter in place hotels and creating solutions to homelessness. and we want to do this in a number of ways. the mayor's priorities for shelter, housing, and
behavioral health services really align with what we heard in the listening sessions. the mayor's priorities related to behavioral health services especially align with the our city, our home priorities [inaudible] through low barrier streamlined access to treatment services, medication, and linkages to on going support services. additionally, the expansion of new beds and facilities in the forms of traditional treatment beds and long-term supportive housing are key to addressing the behavioral health needs of people experiencing homelessness. >> emily, can you just make sure to tell me when you want me to move forward? i'm not always sure when you want me to proceed. >> sure. can we go to slide four?
thanks, lawyer. we're on the strategy slide. great. so i won't read this to you, but i do want to highlight the four strategies. so we've identified four strategies for identifying these shared goals and priorities. increasing diverse housing options. i think that was certainly loud and clear to me in the listening sessions, providing behavioral health services to currently and formerly homeless people in our community, investing in overall systems to ensure equity in access and impact, and create a multidisciplinary response in partnership with the community. we really believe that by working through these strategies, that we can achieve the our city, our home goals as well as the mayor's recovery plan goals simultaneously. a big part of the work between the department of homelessness
and supportive housing and the our city, our home is using this data and the resources we have to drive system improvements and more equitable outcomes, and we have -- sorry, laura. advancing to slide five -- and we have identified a number of values or principles that we use in our work and throughout this proposal to help drive equity, including preventing homelessness before it starts, meeting people where they are, focusing our services on -- or prevention services on people most likely to become homeless, identifying housing in diverse neighborhoods, again, something we've been hearing so much
about, and clinical and wraparound services. i just wanted to say how much i prepare -- how much i appreciate the feedback. i think we found a great way to incorporate many of the ideas that we've heard and to build on these things as we move forward with our shared vision for how we can achieve our goals together. slide seven. the our city, our home model has allowed us to leverage or funding, and we expect this will be the case this coming year, as well, which has made it an exciting opportunity to
expand our programs dramatically. there have been -- you know, while there have been many losses and real hardship during the pandemic, we're all seeing what is possible when we act together. the leadership of our city, our home committee is driving that conversation, and we're really grateful for this partnership. the title of this slide was many of the things that we've been able to accomplish over this past year, and we look forward to achieving more things in the years to come together. we can move to slide eight. so member friedenbach walked
through some funding programs. we just wanted to really quickly put out in this slide here the funds that were allocated in 20-21, the unallocated balance in 20-21, and then, the projected revenue in 21-22 and 22-23. as you can see from the total line at the bottom, significant resources projected to do significant work, and, you know, these numbers don't include admin costs, and they may change slightly once we include those costs. but today, we're focusing on four major categories of funding buckets that will drive our approach, so the housing prevention, shelter, and then, the [inaudible]. so fy 20-21 funding slides
indicates what was allocated to the committee. we're excited to talk with you about the next phase of this work. so as i mentioned before, these are the four key areas of our city, our home resources, and we're excited to walk-through some ideas with you all. we can go to slide 11. so in our 21-23 budget priorities, we feel we've found a way to create an estimated 2500 or more housing placements through this investment by focusing on a couple of key areas: supporting newly created housing projects that utilize
one-time state funds, acquiring new housing units, and being focused on families, t.a.y., and [inaudible] within that housing acquisition strategy [inaudible] with a lot of choice around where they can land and utilize the subsidy, which i think is an exciting opportunity. and then, expands the fame -- the rapid rehousing approach, the medium housing approach with t.a.y. that we began with our city, our home last year. you can see that this is in direct alignment with the our city, our home housing goal.
you can see here the populations of adults, t.a.y., and families that are projected to be housed with each of these new investments, and the number of housing units or placements that we think we can achieve in each of these areas. so you see new flex pool, new acquisition, supporting newly created t.s.h., new workforce, and rapid rehousing expansion for youth. i'm sure there'll be lots of questions, and gigi and i can field those at the end, and
i'll just keep moving through to slide 14. prevention -- really talks a lot about prevention in her report, and this is an area that the city is really excited about. i think prevention offers us an incredible opportunity both in terms of thinking about as we're coming out of this pandemic and eviction moratoriums are lifted, expecting to see an increased demand for homeless prevention services and utilizing prevention as a way to address the racial inequities in the homeless system and among people experiencing homelessness. achieving racial equity in our homeless response can't just be done when somebody becomes homeless. we really must be focused on stopping homelessness before it begins, and that means using
prevention early and often, but also using prevention resource does to ensure that once -- resources to ensure that once people are housed, they don't fall into homelessness again. we know from our data, nearly 30% of respondents had lived -- sorry. i just -- let me say this again. our 2019 point in count showed us that 31% of people were homeless for the first time during the count, and this was an increase over 20% in 2017. we asked where they lived immediately before becoming homeless, 30% said they owned or rented by themselves or with a partner. 33% reported staying with family or friends, and 12% reported living in subsidized housing. so these groups are people who are -- who we know -- so we
know that we need provide prevention resources to these three groups of people who are likely or newly homeless. so we are using this data to help drive or strategy for presenting homelessness. prior to the pandemic, three people were entering homelessness for every person that we housed out of homelessness in san francisco. and due to covid, the budget and legislative analyst is estimating, from october, between 13,000 and 13,300 san franciscans were anywhere from one to three months behind on rent. black and latinx renters were found to be almost twice as likely to be behind in rent between may and july of 2020
compared to white renters. and the turner center estimates that two thirds of renters who experience job loss in san francisco from april to june had a person of color in their household. preventing homelessness is an incredibly important strategy for addressing racial inequities in our community, and this data also speaks to the need to target resources using the key factors that are strongly associated with a likelihood of becoming homeless we need outreach targeting those parts of the city that have the highest bipoc populations and targeting our resources in the areas that need it the most. i'm excited about this proposal
on prevention. i know we spent a lot of time talking with members and julie about this, but we have the opportunity to prevent at least 8,000 people from becoming homeless in san francisco because of these investmented. looking at slide 13, you can see where the investments fall and the number of people we anticipate to be able to serve with this resource. so really, an incredible expansion here leveraging federal resources, working across departments, in partnership with community, and ensuring that we are able to help the most vulnerable people most likely to become homeless in our community, help them avoid becoming homeless through very flexible assistance. we heard that back today, really important to have that
flexibility. slide 16 shows the anticipated breakdown of prevention resources, from eviction and housing stabilization, expanded prevention and flexible assistance and problem solving and emergency rental stance, as well as shallow subsidies to help a tenant not pay more than 30% of their income towards rent. i'm almost done, appreciate your patience. moving to slide 17, the city is prepared -- in partnership with our city, our home, we're looking at approximately 1,000 shelter placements that can be paid next year. there's a typo here. this is a higher number of beds, but navigation centers, supporting safe sleep,
initiating a new public support parking program, and i will update slide 17, but you can see we anticipate being able to update shelter resources to the tune of about 1,000 beds for all three populations: youth, t.a.y., and funding. and slide 18 shows the funding strategy and how we plan to achieve the shelter goals outlined above. i'm going to stop and turn it over to my colleague, hallie, from the department of public health who will talk about service investments. >> thank you, emily. are you able to hear me? yeah? okay. good morning, members of the committee. i'm hali hammer, director of
care for the department of public health, and it's exciting to be presenting to you this more. i'm joined by jennie louie, who's the acting director of the department of public health. i want to start by thanking the members, the committee, and the public, and i especially want to thank member andrews, who has worked tirelessly through his position as the behavioral health liaison and the department of public health.
we heard from communities about the needs for more programming and treatment options for pregnant people, for families and for youth. overdose is the leading cause of death for homeless individuals. our hope is to not only prevent overdose, but to prevent it through the use of treatment and harm reduction practices. san francisco continues to lead in this space compared to other municipalities, but we need to take stronger action to address this crisis.
we know that naloxone works, with thousands of overdoses prevented in 2020 alone, and we plan to increase our distribution of naloxone. h.s.h. and d.p.h. have deepened our collaboration to grow both medical and social support programs and permanent supportive housing settings so that our most at risk clients remain housed. very much, over the past year during the covid-19 pandemic, we realized that we could not safely provide alcohol sobering
services in our current setting. in partnership with the command center, we identified a s.i.p. hotel where we could safely house our sobering center. we held our first outbreak of sobering were people who are experiencing homelessness, in and out of the center every day, putting themselves and others at very high risk of contracting covid, we shifted to a program where nurses administered tests for alcohol use, then provided them alcohol while sheltering in place and
alcohol use programs. the listening conditions also elevated the need for more specialized beds targeted to t.a.y. populations for families and for people who transition out of treatment programs. we would like to [inaudible] to acquire these types of facilities, and i'll speak to that in more detail. mental health and substance use crises do not follow a predictable 9:00 to 5:00 schedule. more over, we know that people suffering a crisis need support to know when to ask for help.
our services should be able outside of business hours. we now have the ability to craft 24-7 services especially when people experiencing homelessness want them and need them. it's clear that making assessments, referrals, prescriptions available at all hours of the day and night is the right approach to this staff and our existing system. next slide. next, i will speak briefly about the service expansions we've been able to move on since we last came to the full committee for the early release of funds in december and also about our expansion of these services. i want to acknowledge that the impact of services, so following directly from emily, we can't as linearly project as
many people we will serve, so it doesn't follow as linearly as h.s.h. most times, we provide services through touch points. once we build these services, our street crisis response team may respond to someone in crisis on the street, engage with them, support them while they deescalate, and then accompany them to the mental health service center or an urgent care center, where they would be fully assessed and transported to a provider for on going care and assessed for housing, as well. we will begin to see outcomes on the health of homeless people. specifically, the funded and proposed prop c initiative,
including 132 beds were funded through the immediate needs allocation in december. the proposal we are bringing to you today is to expand local beds by 110 beds, so that would be new 21-22 funding. it would support transitional youth population and step down beds. we're excited about another innovation. in collaboration with h.s.h. and h.s.a., we've expanded or shelter health and street medicine work to include now what we're calling our
[inaudible] of care. >> director? >> yes. >> we have about three minutes. >> we've hired a number of behavioral health clinicians, and also our prop c funding will allow us to dedicate initial capacity at the department of public health for more housing sites. we've also expanded street crisis response team, and i can talk more about that in detail if there's time later. next slide. so this slide, again, reflected
the proportional allocation of the projected revenues of the next two fiscal years, so this reflected what i've just spoken about in the last two slides. so next slide. just rushing through these. so this concludes our presentation. h.s.h., d.p.h., will continue to work with the mayor and the other members of our city, our home oversight committee to answer questions and reach alignment regarding where best to invest in housing and services across our departments in order to reach our common goals. we have incorporated community and our city, our home priorities into our proposals and will submit them ahead of our april our city, our home
meeting. >> thank you so much, director [inaudible]. now going to go to public comment. i believe, secretary hom, we also have a chinese and a spanish translator who are here with us. >> that's correct. i'm going to go ahead and elevate our translators? so i guess you'll be on mute until the caller is ready to speak? thank you. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001, access code 187-595-1186, then pound and pound again. if you wish to provide public
comment, please press star, three to raise your hand, and the system will indicate you have been unmuted when you can begin your comment. please note that you'll have three minutes. i'm checking the attendee list now, and i'm not seeing any public comments, but from my understanding there are. >> yeah. i think the star, three is presenting some confusion, and maybe we need to say that in different languages, as well? >> yeah. can we go to our spanish and chinese language translator to say that, please, secretary hom? >> yeah. angela, can you let callers know to call 415-655-0001,
enter access code 187-595-1186. press pound, and pound again, and then star, three to enter the queue. i see two hands raised. i'm going to go ahead and take these callers now. >> thank you. >> hello, caller? hello, caller? >> maybe identify the caller by name or phone number? >> unfortunately, there's no names. i can identify the caller by the six digit number i can see. it's 415-678. >> no, this is maricela. hola. >> we can hear you. can you speak?
as, like, someone who is in san francisco, she has applied to dalia [inaudible] and hasn't been able to find any housing for her family members, and she believes this is a great chance for money to be allocated to situations like hers to be able to find housing. she doesn't think it's fair living conditions for her and her family members to be living in, so she wants to [inaudible] as well as those of her community members, her neighborhoods, etc. gracias, maricela. thank you. [end of translation]. >> great. thank you very much. i will go ahead and take the next caller.
hello, caller? >> hello. >> hello, caller. >> hello? >> you have three minutes to speak now. >> okay. so first thing, my name miguel cabrera, so i work in [inaudible] homelessness. so i was here [inaudible] everyone speaking and presenting different way ideas, and different topics, so i really want to emphasize one thing -- or two different things. number one, i really appreciate all the efforts and all the support of the community because we have an opportunity to have two listening sessions, and we have a lot of
opportunities for families because finally, the families, they can design what kind of housing they want to be or where they want to live, so i appreciate all the families who have taken the time to participate. but the other thing that i want to mention is one of the presenters was talking about different issues. and when -- one thing that i did want to mention is, so, for example -- so [inaudible] in the process, you need to
housing or any other services, i want to see equity, but the other thing i want to see is focusing on families and homeless. and -- yes, and making sure that -- so families [inaudible] who are losing their homes due to covid-19, so a lot of families are losing their jobs, so i think we need to [inaudible] and we need to reputting our attention because after june 30, when the letter of the -- so protecting to families and each other, so we're going to see a lot of exodus from different places from work, from the property owners, so we need to redevelop
that. another big concern i have, so we trying to help these families that are already homeless to permanent housing, but we need to take a look at what is coming in the future so we're not [inaudible] so thank you very much, and yeah. that's it. >> thank you, caller. we'll take the next caller. hello, caller? >> yes, hi. can you hear me? >> yes, we can, and you have three minutes. thank you. >> okay. hi. good morning, everyone. my name is sameda [inaudible] and a single mother of three. i want to just tell you a little bit about my story. for many years, i lived in different rooms. like, i went from room to room, renting with my kids, and i had
a -- it was really hard on us, especially with my kids, and they had no space to do their homework or place. we had to stay most of the time outside or in restaurants because we didn't have a place to cook. the day that we got our apartment, you know, was a feeling like no other. my kids were excited, they were happy, and i really do believe that permanenting housing not only improves the quality of life for families but also promotes stability, and any program that can help support that, it would be great, and thank you for listening. >> great, thank you. i'll take the next caller.
my name is leeann colliers, and i'm concerned about the support of families in san francisco. [inaudible] and i didn't get the services that i wanted through the counseling services here. and i have a very concern that that's -- that y'all giving monies to the developments to have them do case management for people, and i think that should not happen because on two occasions, when i was dealing with case management, i was evicted from my place because i didn't [inaudible] my concerns about environments
that i don't want to be in, and my daughter can't be in because now, my daughter, she has bad panic attacks, and i -- you know, it still wasn't answered. i was placed and forgotten about, but they're still trying to place me in a place that i don't think is fit for me or my daughter to be at, and i'm just talking to myself. so i'm just concerned, when they do come around stuff with the families or deal with -- i just had a hard time, you know, and i've freaked out this weekend, kind of, too because my daughter called me on a friday with a panic attack, and i was way across town, and i couldn't go to the hospital to be with her. this has been a real effect on
me and my children, trying to get housing. the stable relation is not when you go there. it's all a hot mess. the housing, this time, i hope it works out, but you need at least a lot of working around, and i don't think d.p.h. should be giving money to departments to the developers to hire case management. it's un -- it's not -- i can't pronounce it. you can't work with the case manager and knowing that they work with the manager because that stuff goes back and forth, and i experienced that both times. and once i found out, why is d.p.h. giving money to companies to doing counseling
when they should be giving it to nonprofit organizations? they have people who know what they're going through, the people that are already serving them in their communities, so that's it. >> great. thank you so much for your call. i'm going to go back to caller number 23. hello, caller? >> hello? >> hello? >> oh, okay. good morning. this is sonia from the homeless [inaudible] i don't -- you know, i'm a survivor of homes vials. it's -- domestic violence, so it's been, like, more than a year that i [inaudible] experiencing domestic violence and it's been really hard and really bad this year because a lot of the resources were
closed and very limited, so i was calling you to see whether a lot of the money can also be allocated for, you know, the people that are just experiencing domestic violence at home. if we're thinking about the next generation, these are the children that are going to be also homeless and be in even more problems. so if we can allocate the money for housing -- >> so are you done yet? are you done? >> yeah. >> thank you. >> great. thank you, caller. >> i believe we have more callers that raised their
hands. angela, would you mind seeing in chinese if they can dial star, three to lineup if they want to speak? i want to make sure we have the opportunity to capture everybody. >> angela, i think you need to unmute yourself. >> angela, are you there? >> if you could unmute angela, maybe that would help her. >> okay. i'll go ahead and unmute her. the last time i did, however, i don't think she was prepared, so let's try it again. >> can you hear me? >> hello, yes. >> okay. good. >> hello.
kids are doing distance learning, it would be really difficult to -- [speaking cantonese language] >> we are hoping that we have more rental subsidy and also more affordable housing opportunities with the rent according to 30% of our income. that's more according to what we can afford now. thank you.
[end of translation]. >> great. thank you, caller. okay. i'm looking to see if there's any additional callers, and if you can have them press star, three to lineup. >> mary, can i relay that in spanish, as well? >> absolutely. let me go ahead and take the cantonese speakers, as well, and i will have you definitely do it in spanish. [speaking cantonese language] >> hello, caller? can you please let her know she has three minutes to speak. [speaking cantonese language]
have a bigger house, always asking me when he would have a bigger room. i hope this prop c would increase our subsidy, increase affordable housing for us. [speaking cantonese language] >> okay. both of us are working, but still, we cannot afford the affordable housing that is on the market. even if they're, for the rare chance that one or two units are available, it's just too
speaker -- if there's no other cantonese speaker -- okay. i will go ahead and move to michelle roland. if you can go ahead and let your callers know to dial star, three to move ahead now, and i will let those callers know. [speaking spanish language] >> great. thank you so much. i'll unmute a caller. hello, caller? >> umm, hello? >> hello, caller. you have three minutes. >> okay. so yes, hello.
my name is raul. i'm an organizer in the mission with [inaudible] and i want to advocate for the family tenants that are in s.r.o. units that are not appropriate for children to grow up in, and just in general, the condition of the s.r.o. hotels are not always the best. some families are forced to live in s.r.o. units, and we have seen families that move out of the s.r.o. units because they couldn't deal with the conditions anymore. a lot of these families at the moment are not working, so they have to do their best to be able to have a shelter and, you
know, a roof for their children. and also, as we continue through the pandemic, we don't want to have any children [inaudible], and so, because, you know, homelessness for children and families that are living in shelters, on the street in vehicles, and families who are living doubled up in residential units, and all these families are suffering, and we should have these safe and decent place to live in. in a rich city such as s.f., everybody should have a home. there should be a plan for at least 1,000 units for families, and that is all. thank you. >> great. thank you, caller. michelle, would you mind asking
callers to dial star, three just to make sure i captured everybody, and with that, we'll move onto the next item on the agenda. [speaking spanish language] >> clerk: thank you, michelle. i see a caller. mplt. hello, caller? >> hello. my name is crea, and i am an organizer in the mission. i want to speak on the promises that prop c held for families and specifically children, you know, living in s.r.o.s? prop c promised 8,000 units of affordable housing over the next four years, and there needs to be another 1,000 units for families as families are
the most vulnerable unit under this pandemic right now? this money should not be used to cover programs that the city would ultimately be operating? especially those that don't -- that don't create permanent solutions to homelessness? and due to the pandemic and the influx of state and federal funding, this city has a once in a lifetime opportunity to purchase student and tourist hotels? and the city should prioritize purchasing these hotels right now. we know that homelessness hurts children? and in a city such as s.f., every child should have a safe and decent home? so yeah, thank you so much. >> great, thank you. i will take the next caller. hello, caller?
>> hello. >> hi. welcome. >> okay. hello. my name is [inaudible] i'm tenant of the [inaudible] hotel. i live with my family in an s.r.o. unit. my family has struggled finding safe housing, seeing how s.r.o.s affect children or are not the best for children. [inaudible] would help our families. prop c especially defines families who are living in the shelters, [inaudible] or in the rooms. everybody needs places to live.
please, please. thank you so much. >> great. thank you. hello, caller? >> hello, good morning. my name is catalina. i am a tenant of an s.r.o. hotel, and i have lived with my family for ten years, and i live with my son, 11, and my daughter, nine, and it should be more opportunities for housing because i don't like having to share a bathroom, and i just thank you for your time. >> great, thank you. hello, caller?
hello, caller? >> hello? >> hello. hello, caller. you have three minutes. >> hello? >> yes, you have three minutes. do you hear me? >> yes. i was speaking earlier. you know, being from san francisco all my life, and i have never seen it like this. you know, it is so horrible, especially for families, you know. and then, even, you know, i think when we, like, thinking about families and we thinking about places that we could keep families, we have make sure that the right -- the right services are there for them because sometimes the right services are not there. sometimes it's just people that they hire and they don't -- you know, have that -- where
they're talking like a human being, where they're talking to you kind of bad. i feel like when it comes to this, when it comes to our families and stuff, we've got to look at our emergency shelters and all other services that they do have in cities around families. i'm just, like, i've been through a lot since y'all became -- help homelessness and supportive housing. i've been the first on [inaudible] to one on the mission, and i just feel that families need services, more services when it comes to coordinating every entry system, they should have been coordinating every entry systems from the get go. you know, what are the systems for the family, what are the
services for the kids. all of this should have been done from the gate, not this from homelessness or services. like, you know, i've been dealing with this with all my children, and she's been in the services since she was 12, and now she's 18. to see her mental status go unbelievable is heard breaking for her and myself because it cost me to go through changes, too, and that's it. >> there are no additional public comments. >> is there any -- do i get public comment or do we have
to -- >> okay. i'm sorry. [inaudible]. >> this is the interpreter. >> yes. if you have something to say, you may speak. >> hello. my name is michelle [inaudible] and we fully support prop c and supporting families who suffering from homelessness. as a case worker in the mission, we are constantly dealing with families that [inaudible] and even know, our hyperexacerbated in terms of -- like, intensiveness from d.p.h.
and d.b.i. so i think it's important that we start addressing prop c funding and how 1,000 of these units can be allocated to families. we already now how homelessnesses are criminalized and treated by our society, and i think it's important to know how prop c is positioned to help these individuals and understanding how we fall into these situations because of lack of funding and support from our government. further, [inaudible] as well as the communities that we serve. thank you. >> thank you. actually, no, i do see another
caller in the attendee list. would you like to take this caller? >> yes, thank you. >> hello, caller. you have three minutes. >> hello. hear me? >> yes, we can hear you, yes. >> i want to angela translate for me. >> okay. great. >> hello, angela. hello, angela. >> okay. great. [speaking cantonese language]
>> okay. i'm organizer -- s.r.o. family organizer. since i work with the families, i have seen so many families in their situations. i have seen so many families looking for housing, however, this affordable housing out of their reach. [speaking cantonese language] >> i heard a story last week that makes me cry. [speaking cantonese language]
>> so they have three people in the family. the parents have been looking for better housing. however, right now, the kid needs to go to kitchen between 9:30 and 12 p.m. to do their homework on-line because they cannot disturb the father, who's sleeping at that time, so they have to go to the kitchen.
so it hurts me a lot because it's cold out right now, but the kid has to go out to do their homework every night. [speaking cantonese language] >> we hope more need for housing. thank you. >> okay. great. thank you so much. i believe we can move onto item number 4. >> thank you. thank you so much to all the public who came out to speak today. i know that we are behind on time, and i'm afraid that we may lose quorum, so i wanted to ask the committee if we would be able to have a special meeting at a date before our
april 20 meeting, if that works. >> that would work better for me. >> yeah. yeah, that makes sense. >> that would be great. >> okay. thank you so much, everyone. so we're going to continue item number four to our special meeting just to give it all the time that it needs, so thank you, member nagendra, for your flexibility on this. actually, i wanted to open it up for questions today. >> i just wanted to jump in. i'm going to have to leave, but i did want to make some comments and feedback before our special meeting, so i'll probably do that through the controller's office, but i'm going to have to log off. thank you so much. >> thank you so much for your
input, member d'antonio. member nagendra? >> no, that was from before. >> okay. member friedenbach? >> okay. a couple of things. thank you to the department for presentations. i'm hoping there are some things that i'm hoping we can get answered as far as programming being differentiated for homeless people? because we're trying to move the dial and getting homeless people moved off the streets? and so just wanted to make that point again?
i'd like to see, on the d.p.h., a lot more -- and a lot of innovative stuff and a lot of great stuff that the department is doing, but i'd like to see more pieces around, you know, in responding to some of the community feedback, purchasing affording cares, opportunity to expand housing, really get some stuff in there that's moving people off the streets would be super helpful. and wanted -- also, part of the discussion, especially what we're hearing from the families is this need for extremely low-income housing? and we used to have that in our system that homeless people could move into, and at some point, we lost it, and we moved to department of homelessness and supportive housing.
and actually, this came up in african american housing in one of the small groups that i was able to sit in on. you know, that's something that a lot of the families need. you know, they need some assistance with rent to be able to afford their housing so that they can stabilize, so maybe so much of the on going -- so i wanted to kind of give that feedback. i also wanted to -- let's see -- the -- hearing a lot around the larger units for families, for these larger families. that's one of the things that we had one of the callers pointed out. i just wanted to highlight that a little bit more, too. one of the other things -- this is the last thing. there's a huge investment, i forgot to mention in my
presentation, but there's almost $70 million for a match in the granada navida hotel. that got scooted to forward years. i'd like to see a lot more coming back with these are the federal investments that are coming down. i know we don't know exactly what that will be, but we do have some. we had a huge fema reimbursement for the s.i.p. hotels, $80 million, so i'd like to see that used for the investment in terms of the one-time funding. a lot of that money is going to disappear really quickly, whereas the prop c fund can roll over, and so i'd like to also see some, you know, coming
back with these are the dollars that we can use for acquisitions to leverage prop c so that we get farther down the road. and so i don't think we ever envisioned, like, 100% of the stuff coming from prop c, that, like, once this started, everything going forward and even loosely related to homelessness was from prop c. we want to be focused on that expenditure, moving people off the streets. we want to -- we want homelessness themselves to be, like, i finally got some help and i got off the street, and it will keep people off and keep people housed. this is really exciting, and a lot of compliments, and thank you, everyone, for -- i forgot to say my thank yous around --
thanks for everyone around, the collective department and community, and also all the people who worked their asses off to get this passed. thank you. >> thank you so much, member friedenbach. we'll go to member reggio? >> i think one of the challenges we're going to have, no doubt we have to bring on substantial new housing. that's what the theme is, that's what it is, a large point of it -- part of it. let me if this is right. it went kind of quickly, and i don't have it in hand, but 500 -- i'm thinking in terms of acquisition, acquisition of new supportive housing, did you say for 500 plus people -- first of all, that's a question. is that correct? i think that's a nod. and my question is, if that is
correct, how did you arrive at that number? 500 plus means we can go from 500 to 1,000 to whatever the many bears. does the department have a -- at this point, a number of how many units it wants to bring on? i know the mayor speaks in terms of certain numbers, but the acquisition part of this, not the pledge pool or the rental subsidies, but acquisition. what's the number the department is earmarking for, let's say, the next year, and do you have a recommendation for us in that regard? >> you're muted, director. >> apologies. thank you very much. hopefully you can hear me now. so this 500 is an estimate of
what we think can be achieved with the available our city, our home funds. i think we have a lot to look at what we can do when we braid in other resources, like other state funds and bond dollars. but that's an example of what we can do with the available prop c dollars. >> so if i can just add to that, maybe not so -- maybe you are suggesting, but i would think that, you know, we're going to want that prop c money to leverage other funds right from the get go, it's not like 500 coming just prosecute prop c -- just from prop c, and you go out and use the other moneys. i think one of the things that you're going to have to grapple with on the committee is the
strike team -- and if i have the wording correct on that -- to go in to, acquire negotiations with its units. what are we talking about? how much money did we want to set to that? that very much is set to the subsidy set, the operations and services funds that have to accompany that do you happen the road. so maybe between now and the time we meet as a committee. if we can tie those numbers down a little bit and recognize -- listen, if we go through 600 units, this is going to cost us this much. this year, it's going to cost us this much the following year. >> exactly, and that's exactly what this interdepartmental strike team is looking at collectively and looking at the available sources, you know,
because [inaudible] we need to pull it all together. >> yeah. just if we had that -- so there's an urgency to this, particularly as we meet next time as a committee. you know, we've got to start honing down because we've got a whole stack of stuff to present to the mayor and the board of supervisors by april 30. >> yeah. thank you. >> thank you, member reggio. we'll go to member leadbetter? >> thank you. yeah, just want to sort of step and maybe emphasize that [inaudible] up until now, we really have not done a very good job of laying out the actual costs of things, either what has been spent or what will be spent, and i just have to say for the record that i
feel extremely uncomfortable with where we're at [inaudible] and how they will be spent in the future, and that's just to set the stage that, on april 20, we're going to be asked to allocate a tremendous amount of money, and we're looking at it, we're looking at an allocation of the entire pot in perpetuity without an outlining of dollars. and in order to do that, with the responsibility that this committee has been charged, we need a lot more information by april 20. i know everybody is moving, the landscaping is changing, the funding source does by the day coming from -- sources by the day coming from the feds and
the state, but it's something we need to do. if we can't do it, we shouldn't allocate the money. we have the dollars. there are lots of dollars. it takes time to put $100 million into the service system. that's what i think as i sit and hear all the great work that's been done, but i really want to emphasize what i think we need to do is to effectively oversee the funds [inaudible] i've asked at every single meeting someone could tell me what the advance repavements have been spent -- repayments have been spent on. we haven't gotten any reports on that, allocations of what our committee members have approved. i don't know how to do that by the next special session. what we're charged with doing
is putting our spending plan together, as it's our as much as we can do collective plan that we have with the city. i don't know how we're going to get is there, but i'm excited for it because we actually get to talk about everything that everyone has been doing. a couple of, you know, specific items. the other thing that i have never seen, it still feels like we have a collection of programs and services but no particular through line of how we're actually presenting homelessness and getting people out of homelessness. i think the committee had really wanted to see a tie
between how many people are falling into homelessness, how many people are falling out. for every three people that are falling into homelessness, one or two people falling out into housing or transition beds. this is going to be a huge investment in homelessness and housing, and i don't want to understate that. i just want to make sure we're keeping the eye on the prize there, particularly on the behavioral health side. we understand that services are important, but there's more that can be done with the behavioral health dollars to move towards exits. we've been pushing the health care system for decades now to invest their dollars into housing at the national and state level, and i think this is our chance to further walk
the talk a little bit when we have dollars that are available to us that we can use for housing. the -- i do have one specific question around the nav centers, if someone can tell me which nav centers those are? >> the funding allocated or funding suggested in our presentation speaks to a portion of navigation centers that have opened since passage of our city, our home, including embarcadero, i think a portion of the expansion at division circle, as well as the new t.a.y. navigation center, and the big new navigation center. >> okay. thank you. >> there might be another one in there that i'm missing, but
i think that adds up to the 555. >> great. thank you. the other thing that i want to [inaudible] is the potential because we're moving into year three when we're getting a view of the significant services that we've invested in in housing. if we're not looking out for [inaudible] we might have a little sticker shock when we get there, so i want to make sure we're keeping that in mind, and that might mean keeping back some funds until we see how the system is working, so i want to propose the idea that it's okay to hold back some funds, that we don't
have to expend all the funds because the hold back is there, and it could really benefit our system. couple of things on the p.s.h. investments, i've really grappled with this. in the listening sessions, we had a lot of providers and community members, housing developers, everybody just bringing to the attention the revolving door report about people following out of p.s.h. and what do we do to prevent that? i look forward to sort of having that conversation. i also think that, you know, i don't know, the 30% cap, i think we had found money for
that using general fund dollars. i'm not sure about the appropriate use of the proxy dollars, and i just want to say the [inaudible] is very important, and it's also sort of a gap of what we've been able to talk about that here. [inaudible] layout some sources so that we understand the overall landscape. but i do want to hold the line into investments in the same p.s.h. i think the intention of these funds is to really help people who are currently unhoused, and to the extent to which we can build it into the prevention, i really want to keep massaging that and really where that's appropriate and possible, but i think -- and also, on the behavioral health side, so the
p.s.h. proposal there, one of our principles of this committee is ideas that come to this committee should be vetted through a thorough and involved community process. i think the more conversation that needs to be done around those interventions and even ask if it's an appropriate use of prop c dollars. so i'm excited about it. it sounds like good ideas, but, you know, i think there's a lot of questions there. so those are my thoughts, and we're going to roll those out over the next few weeks. we've got a lot to do to get this investment and action plan done, and i just want to thank all the members and committee members that have been working
on it. >> thank you, member leadbetter. we'll go to member nagendra. >> i wanted to just say, even though i didn't -- we didn't go with our agenda item today, i just wanted to let the committee members know that are still on the call that i will ask if we can send my presentation to the controller's office to share with the committee members to prep us for the conversation that we can have at the next meeting because it was going to layout what to expect in the invest plan, how the committee members and the other membership get ready for that plan and prepare to have a discussing vote? so i will send that [inaudible] at the new special meeting that we're going to have because i think it's important that the
liaisons -- everyone know that the liaisons are going to dig into the activity we heard from all the listening sessions we had to prioritize what activitied are going to be priority -- activities are going to be prioritized on each funding category, and we were going to vote on that, so we're going to have to do that in the next couple meetings. so i want everybody to be prepared, and i'll send that out and be prepared for everybody to discuss. >> thank you. we'll go to member friedenbach. >> thank you. as much as we can have everything public, but also, the presentation that i had to be public because it allows all the committee members to look at all the stuff and that way, we don't have a false barrier and allows more community
engagement, as well. >> cynthia, if you wouldn't mind sharing your presentation from last meeting. >> oh, i did send that to mary. i'll send it again. >> we haven't had it. >> okay. thank you so much, member friedenbach, if there's nothing else, we'll go to item five, committee to propose agenda items for subsequent meeting. okay. if there's nothing, we'll go to public comment. >> i would like to talk about something. >> oh, member friedenbach? >> [inaudible] so we can just start the level [inaudible] on that. >> thank you, member
leadbetter. we'll go to member reggio. >> hi. that's exactly what i was going to add. i just took my hand down. thank you. >> thank you so much. i don't see any hands from the committee, so i will go to public comment. secretary hom? >> great. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001, access code 187-595-1186, pound, and pound again. if you have not already done so, press star, three to lineup to speak. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted, and you may begin your comments. checking the attendee list now. i do not see any hand raised. >> okay. thank you, secretary hom. we'll now take a motion to adjourn.
>> -- to adjourn. member friedenbach. >> so moved by member friedenbach. >> second, leadbetter. >> okay. second by member leadbetter. all in favor -- oh, we need a roll call. >> i'll take the roll call. [roll call] >> all right. so thank you, everyone. we will have that special meeting before our april 20 meeting, and we'll send out the dates for that, so thank you, everyone. >> great. thank you, and the time is 12:10 p.m. thank you, everyone. >> thank you. >> thank you, jim. thank you, sfgtv.
>> our clerk is brittany milton. madam clerk, will you please call the roll. >> clerk: okay. commissioner chen. >> present. >> clerk: commissioner haney? >> present. >> clerk: commissioner mandelman. >> present. >> clerk: commissioner mar. >> present. >> clerk: commissioner melgar. >> present. >> clerk: commissioner preston. >> present. >> clerk: