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be rewritten, that facts cannot be denied, and right and wrong should not be distorted here, guy made. so what exactly did washington do? well, they edited their website and they remove the part about not recognizing the island is being independent of china. here's what it used to say. united states recognize the government of the people's republic of china as the sole legal government of china, acknowledging the chinese position that there is but one china and taiwan as part of china. the united states does not support taiwan independence. and here is what it says. now obviously, washington plans to expand their engagement. their taiwan is a key us partner in the endo pacific the united states and taiwan share similar values, deep commercial and economic links, and strong people to people, ties which form the bedrock of our friendship and serve as the impetus for expanding us engagement with taiwan. china seas this as a straight up provocation from the united states. they're hinting at
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a rather strong response to on that such political manipulation of the tie. one question and the attempt to change the status quo across the taiwan strait will hurt the us itself. this bat seems pretty well timed with the us lead summit taking place in washington later this week. the block of 10 south eastern nations that surprisingly does not include china, is expected to discuss ways to counter beijing's influence in the region. in turn, the u. s. will continue to promote its endo pacific strategy released just 3 months ago, just to show how much chinese people are affected by these plans. a poll recently conducted showed that 89 percent of chinese people view the indo pacific strategy as their regions version of nato. and they see it as a danger with u. s. media and politicians beating the drum against china. american public opinion has been impacted as well. a gallup poll, taken back in february,
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showed that 79 percent of us adults have a negative opinion of the country. also in april, a pew survey ran to china's unpopularity at 82 percent. so much tension currently going on in the world. the binding administration seems to just not have caused enough rockets. they now want to intensify the conflict with the country that is the largest on earth in terms of population and a major global economic player. it's not clear where the american people really benefit from this strategy of intensifying conflict across the planet will have a change of diplomacy. the, the original text was written at the time when with the influence of such realist phone calls of its type diplomats such as henry kissinger, who was one of the architects of us, china policy and the opening. today we have a mishmash of, of diplomats driven by neo liberal,
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new conservative values which are want to project us power militarily, everywhere. that is not going to diminish in any way because china is definitely the existential, the super power that's on the rise. the only way to resolve any to get back to diplomacy is of course to reduce that influence. many thanks joining his hair on naughty international web back in the top of the see then ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . the group of 7 has vowed not to lead putin when his war against ukraine,
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as the announced new restrictive measures. but what about the officially enforced narrative claiming ukraine is winning? the wes attempt to weaken russia have failed. in fact, the west is weakening itself with cross sucking the situation in ukraine. i'm joined by my guest, george samuel in budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals in munich. we have bra, ralph niemeyer. he is a leader of a german resistance movement and in st. petersburg across to gilbert doctorow. he is an independent political analyst and author of memoirs of an ex pat manager in moscow during the 1990 s ari chapman. cross stack rules. in fact, that means you can jump in any time you want, and i always appreciate george. let me go to you 1st year. the g 7 is up to it. it's act again. here is if anybody really cares what the g 7 says, nora, but nonetheless, they have vowed that pigeon will not win his war against you. great. but what,
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what does that mean? what are they going to do about it? okay. other than inflict more misery on their own consumers and voters. go ahead, george. well, that's exactly right back all the they have that disposal which is do if they can misery on the ukrainians and of course on their own alexis. and when victor or van said the other day, that's an oily mago, completely cutting off from oil imports from russia will be like, leasing you bomb on the, on get rid of it or will, speaking not just here is but for many european this is an absolutely nonsensical idea of cutting yourself from energy employees to get them because it is simply the destruction of your own economists. and it's quite clear that there is no ready means at the european disposal to replace russian oil,
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replace russian guess. so all of it is just simply call the e u m. in order to look on the line was supposed to be the chief executive of the human. she's the president of the european emission. she has no enforcement mechanism. she got pools european to do one thing or another, she can talk along and but ultimately you're going to have to decide, are they going to stop? are they going to freeze? i was just going to bring their economists the whole or are they just going to live their lives and then are going to follow the big bad so we're still on the line and the european emissions and that's totally ukrainians. well, no one really cares very much about them. i mean, they just didn't count as part of the us, the nato agenda. well, i'm glad you brought that up gilbert, i mean, all of the russia now is the most sanction country ever. ok. how does that help the ukrainians at all? go ahead and st. petersburg. it doesn't. anyway, it's
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a curious thing that western analysts have spoken about the their, their appreciation, rushes military effort up till now. they say that is proven, rushes weakens. that's quite extraordinary because the, the russian effort has captured a territory about the size of the united kingdom since the start of the, of the special military operation. it's also bears mention that russia is certainly the only country on earth with perhaps the exception of china, which is able to withstand the sanctions from hill with united states and its allies, it would have delivered, less often overlooked. so russia is proving itself to be strong in remarkable waste and in ways that no one in europe could equal. and that very fact as to the us to be the envy of european countries and their leaders with respect to russia. so it's
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been paradoxical, the russia strength sheets to these are these vicious, are information war efforts by europeans, amber united states, to compensate for their real loss of ground in the competition of russian. ralph, let me go to you and munich, m. o. many of us would have expected, the germans would play a much more prominent role instead of just being subservient to washington. because germany is, has the most to lose and is losing the most. i would say, i mean, i've never seen a political class. i'm a major country willing to turn off the switches for of their entire economy because somebody with no, with will no real power in brussels, told them too. oh and oh, by the way, you know, i never thought i would have seen a german chancellor who i referred to as sergeant schultz on this program. be openly insulted by the president in the united states and get away with it. i mean, what kind of leadership is germany have?
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what kind of leadership is europe have go ahead ralph. yeah, you just said and right, we are obviously not our own man, and mr. charles is not his own man. then being on the international stage, he obviously took orders from washington and it became quite visible a couple of days ago when he gave a speech addressing the germans in english. so we wonder whether he lost his vocabulary book for us or but i use rather reporting back to washington because that's the truth. we are not submarines since the 990 s. when we thought that we were suffering after the 2nd world war. and after the berlin wall had come down, that we would have our own stay to the nation and be sovereign and we would get the peace tree to you eventually. but all the nations that we harmed during the 2nd world war. and you now see that actually germany is doing exactly what
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washington wants them to do. first, they said we are not going to send any arms into conflict which is against our law and against the people. actually it's against international law to do that. but suddenly we do it a week later, and there must have been some instructions from washington that day, received them, and rom stain at the base. here in germany from all american wars are still being rout ralph. leave the behavior of the german government and other governments in the european union make them co belligerence and this conflict. i think that, you know, that should be take, be noted, particularly the because of the regime type in care by the germans of all people should be very aware of that. and then there, it's completely whitewash. we'll talk about white washing a little bit later. george, i want to go back to you again. the g 7, you know, pollutant must not way in, but i thought ukraine was winning. how do you explain this to me?
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maybe i missed something. go ahead. well, let's say the boy that is on the g 7 and the western powers can't really make up their mind. i is russia just as hopeless, mediocre militarily, incompetent, demoralized chaotic state that is being absolutely trounced and hammer by the plucky ukrainians. ah, all. does ukraine need and desperately and you know, we need to send everything that we've got in order to ensure a potent doesn't prevail. they can't really get the, the narrative, right? and so they go for one to another just in order to persuade the public that somehow by sending in lots and lots of arms into ukraine, they are not actually endangering ok, but 80 of europeans and american. but george, for john, because my dad got charged, but for 8 years,
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nato has been training the ukranian army for 8 years. arms have been pouring a, do you grain? i mean, so more training, more arms. let me throw that to gilbert here. i mean that there's something that we've been doing the western powers have been doing this for 8 years, and this is the result they're getting. so why would you fight pouring bad money in after reporting? good money after bad money. go ahead in st. petersburg and effectiveness doesn't exist in vocabulary of the european leaders. they are posture is all postural, d. v weapons which are been sent to us till recently have been oh, they haven't been ineffective and they have been delivering away where they are destroyed upon arrival. that does not bother a fluster. the, the western presidents and prime ministers,
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they're concerned with their relationship with united states, not really with their relationship with ukraine. and they want a demonstration of bid one another. well, i mean about ralph. i mean, what, what does ukraine mean to the german people? i mean, if you could speak for entire people or just yourself here, but i mean, why is germany willing to sacrifice so much for a country that has no strategic value whatsoever to germany or the west? well i, as i said before, i believe that this is a do orders of someone else. germany is particularly not interested in ukraine. the hardly know much about it. i mean our culture. ringback is so different to think that polish people are closer to vest ukrainians, but even there i see a lot of differences, but here in germany, people are saying okay, people are suffering. let's take them on this refugees. we want to help,
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we want to look good with that and all that. yes. but on the other hand, we don't understand as a german people who ukrainians are and what they are. and not many of us even recall the recent history from a 100 years ago or from 77 years ago. mean last night we had the ambassador of ukraine on the german tv show, again that he's, mr. malik is quite extra in this sense that he's accusing people and he said openly, the germans, we would owe them for 10000000 soldiers who lost their lives and freeing us from novices. he's turning it completely around. i mean, stefan bun, dera, the outer nationalist leader of, of ukraine at that time was the strong ally of mr. hitler. so who fought guns to here and who freed us?
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i mean, i wish that there would be clarity, at least here in germany on that matter. because we wanted to be freed from fascist . but mr. ma certainly did not do the opposite. yeah, george, i mean we were, you and i have talked about at the, at the, the gaggle or podcast, how the narratives have been flipped. ok, where the good guys are now. the good guys are now the bad guys. bad guys are now the good guys. go ahead. 15 seconds before we go to the break. and if you listen to sergeant also speech on 3 day, he kind of pretty much suggested that somehow germany was one of the good guys in the world war 2 and the russians. well, the bad guys and somehow, you know, i thought all that thought hold that, that we have to go to hard break and asked about hard break. we'll continue our discussion on the situation and you can stay with ah
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ah, a with all i with ah, welcome back to crossing were all things are considered?
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i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the situation in ukraine. ah, let's go back to gilbert in st. petersburg, in the 1st part of the program we were talking about who's giving orders to whom. here you have a dissenting opinion. go right ahead. i can say definitely who is getting directions to mister shows, but i would like to do some very important situation that agrees in government and he was dependent on agreement. so the range because of our agreements are not just agreement. we're bounded by your condition and ruby to read and they had a program which included our foreign policy positions were always very anti
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rushing the last 20 years and the german greens, and then the most bull in attacking russia in trying to sanction russia. therefore, it should come as no surprise that when it rains the aim full members coalition, in the last elections injury, they have come in with a strong weak russian position. they need it. no, not. the question is who is stronger than the government? i think we are sending in officials of very we personality and it is his colleagues in the cabinet from the green part, ignorant experience and a long show themselves to be stupid. they are determined. yep. and they are totally
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anti, well i actually ralph, i, i, i very much agree with gilbert and the position of the green party. however, i would add another layer to that. is it, washington is never like social democrats. ok at all. okay. they've always been very suspicious. they're getting it, they're going to make a deal with, you know, it goes all back to keep the russians out, the germans band and the americans and the social democrats always challenge it one way or another. go ahead, ralph. yeah, actually i do agree with both of you. i mean, the green party that i knew was pedro car and kathy 40 years ago, i interviewed her as a young journalists and she was demonstrating and ramstein as well as it moved against the deployment of pershing. yep. rockets and john and cruise missiles and so on. so that is a long way the greens have come. when the $999.00, the cost of what war broke out and the 1st german military direct
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military participation after $945.00. this was done by florida and fish fish or the green foreign minister at that time, who make that shift and who actually he vowed that he would never have out with happen again saying that we're concentration comes to run by subs in the territory of the. busy federal republic of yugoslavia and kosovo, and which was not true. it's a bit like the situation we have now. we start where they say that were war crimes committed. well the well route you're going exactly way want to go. i want to talk about the information where let me go to george here. that's one thing that we keep hearing charge over the russians have lost the information war. well, i mean, if you're in the west, it's all dissent any, any contrary in view of the situation that's ukraine is shut down. i mean,
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then what's the point of having an information more of one side can speak, and that's essentially what is happened. go ahead, george. it's worse than that. it's not just that they close down t and, and when the band, any access to russia, media in the west. western governments are also the asian, isn't the boss of smearing operations. there are any number of organizations and things, things from the by western governments and the e. you, whose sole purpose is to go around writing reports about who to boss on the net or grimly this information agents. you know, the russian tools of this information. that's what they do. they are lavishly funded by the european government, the government, and they probably these reports completely worthless, but they serve to great is the atmosphere as soon as the russian boss all over
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the place, putting out all kinds of this information, trying to all the western public. so yeah, i mean, then that is what happens then. people don't want to listen to that and they just, so this will, exclusively, to the absolute nonsense call by western governance of case in point. yeah. they, they speak on may the 9th delivered by british defense minister of ben wallace, in which he was like russia to not be germany. if he actually went further and the mean and disparage the performance of the red army. and we'll go to for him . you know, the soviet performance, the pretty much smaller of read the truck back and then falling spending millions of people to perish before the german times or less the way the russians like that
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was they just send millions of people because they don't care about, you know, they just, it's just a matter of humanity. that's what you get. effect winning information were okay. it just it juice. yeah. big lie. it. but it, it shows their weakness. that's why they, they believe in censorship because they don't want to counter argument. you know, gilbert, one of the things that very frustrating for me as our, our on december 17th when the russian center ultimatums because that's what they were one to the, on nato and one to the united states. now, you know, you can go and lease, you could go to the the kremlin website, you could go to task dot com and you would get all of these documents. i had guessed after guess before 2 of february 24th. but you are not messaging. we don't know what that, what's in putins head on, why did you just go and read the press? come friends, what don't you read the press release. it was all out that was all out there on display. george and i have talked about this countless number of times. you're surprised they did. they telegraphed. they were going to do from the very beginning
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. nobody listened in with this information warren and shut down of for of dissenting views. we said it's only going to get worse. go ahead gilbert. well, i think we have to put the information, information or substitutes for a real or it is a virtual world. and that is the bow in which washington, most of the united states exists. the united states for last 30 years has been running the real ground war. and so this is taking place. i wouldn't get too excited. but roger ruling information were considering where we had been since the notion of russia would be given a fair hearing of any con, is excluded. however, in the real world, what will count at the end of the day on the ground, and what russia does not do to achieve its objectives, which one might say, right?
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and i was pretty clear it is to take and keep control and grain and to keep the frame from the black sea. and so so limited the grid that it is not a good read to russia at any time in the future. so in that real world, so some aground, we'll see how it works and they are given every chance to succeed, because we are just 6 or western wise to ukraine. alright. anyway, very effective. finally, you know, ralph of the western media is coverage of this is just simply appalling and it's obviously intentional. my position is always been, it's rushes time table and russia will determine the outcome when it's ready when it wants to do that. but, you know,
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one of the things that is never really talked about is that, why did we get into this situation, the 1st place, because of insecurity in europe though, the, the very poor security infrastructure that allowed the to happen. and russia will, it will make the, will not offer negotiations. it will say these are our conditions and these will, will be met. it will be another ultimatum. and i think europe is not prepared or even willing to think about that. go ahead ralph. yeah, you're absolutely right here as well. now what i have to note is that there's a rewriting of history at the moment. yep. i mean, we see, and all our papers here in germany, especially those who are close to the green party. i liked tots, the targets side to day. they are kind of scripting what mrs. burbock is saying, and even what mr. charles is going to say, they're putting in this context ready, se started had already planned to begin
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a war valid before hitler rose to power. no, this was yesterday on the headline. so they're comparing putin either was started or was hitler, but sometimes they're not care about that mister shaw dislikes to link them to to hitler and you know, on george you and i've got we've crossed this bridge before. okay. i mean, i remember in the new york review book, it was like in what was it like 9919293, something like that. okay. you know, a new, revisionist a and this is happening again, except for what the difference is. is some of those were crazy academics. now politicians are in, i'm in, in on it to go ahead george. it is no question of that. and that within the next 1020 years, the willfully a historical anti historical germans will convince themselves that they were actually victims. i've been well to that. they were actually the victims of aggression by stalin. when jackson you went on the german t, v,
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i'm pretty much told them that this is what the soviet committed these terrible atrocities against you. when they invaded berlin, he knew his audience again yesterday, a may, the 9th ben wallace and his speech. he started talking about the rhetoric, arrays, and models that were committed by the red army when he was liberating europe from fascism. so that this and now you know, we look back on local to who are the good guys with a bad guy in georgia. what do you bet? i bet you a couple of beers on this one before it's all said and done. it was the, the russians that trick the japanese into attacking pearl harbor, bad stuff, history. you know, it sounds comical right now, but we're, we're going down that path that we're a very, a historical one when you, when you're a historical,
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you're looking for catastrophe. gentlemen. that's all the time we have many thanks to my guess in budapest, munich, and in st. petersburg, and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are the see you next time. remember, cross move when i was shooting wrong when i just don't a and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. with
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gas prices sky located in europe, off the ukraine suspends the key transit supply very well. hungary products i propose the u. s. bond goes on russian oil. what give on okay, there are no proposed solutions on dealing with what would be an atomic bomb, and i'm going to call me back in the events of a possible in volga on russian oil imports. meanwhile, where did you authorities raise the alarm off more than a 100 incidence of open fires and local hose as residents turn off the gas and result, the fire would save money. and we discussed a biden's plan to prolong the war in ukraine by giving here $40000000000.00 more dollars in support with ukraine is always a proxy to a larger issue for the notice.

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