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if anybody's been trapped in an elevator, 20 minutes could be pretty long time right and a load trapped in an elevator for 20 minutes. not knowing what's gonna happen, not knowing, we wore a sense of sensory deprivation. i think that is your life. 20 visits out an hour. not at all. yeah, the intercom is nothing i was trying to get you out. i was keeping you id is your communication? oh i think sistant who ah . ready ah, a more of the building mm
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. more on turn begins with alca, but it does not in there. it will not. and until every terrorist group, a global reach has been found. stopped and defeats. ah . i think we lost more in the warranty. so you know, empires and decline, resort to torture, and i think it gives them the illusion of mastery and dominance and control by torturing essentially we blind ourselves. but we could in fact create
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a democratic society which actually has consistently valuable and effective techniques to fight terror. the fact that we don't is more an expression of our own anxieties and fears were so called test interrogation techniques used by the u. s. officials were basically designed as techniques to break down the human mind and therefore also the body because they are very connected and leave note physical traces. it's an extremely destructive practice. torture on, of course, on those who receive this pain and suffering. but also on the sidey that becomes a society of cruelty. what we've done is we've not so much lost the war on torture
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as we've won the war on democracy. and that through terrorizing a population, over a period of decades said that there's nobody in this country who didn't grow up with some booky man, some danger. first, it was communism. then it was terrorist for obviously engaged in many facets of what is generally called the cold war. rich, the communist policy is force and no dog as a c, i engage in any political activity or any intelligence there was not approved. at the higher level,
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there was a concern that emerged the 1st article in the late notice that the soviets had cracked the code of human consciousness. that they knew how to apply pressure upon the human mind and break the human mind. and it was that sir of this whole pursuit that lead ultimately to the, the creation of the c eyes, doctrine of psychological torture. this was a time of the brain washing scare. there were show trials in eastern europe, in hungary and poland, which aroused a lot of concern in the west because people seem to be confessing to crimes that they hadn't committed or mm.
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most importantly was the child of cardinal mines and sky and hungry. and jesse was already in natural war 2 quite famous because he was known for having resisted the nazis and their occupation of hunger. and then after the war, he became the cardinal in the primary of the church. they arrested him, they can find him, it was choose of being an aristocrat, it became a kind of target of that regime. and then he was put on trial, were publicly he confessed to the charges against him. and there was this fear in washington, the prince of the church, a man known for his courage, under nazi pressure, that if he could be broken clearly, the soviets were possession of techniques. mm. the c, i a's reaction was primarily around what they thought was brainwashing their concerns
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with communist brainwashing. what they never seemed to realize was that these communist techniques were actually borrowed originally from earlier american techniques in the 1920s. in 1000 ten's, using sleep deprivation exhaustion exercises, all these other techniques were standard domestic policing tortures. they were also driven by 2nd concern. there was a moral panic in the 1950s that an american p o w's in korea. they confessed to things that were completely untrue and it didn't look like they had been talking during the korean more. what happened was that there were chapter down american aviators and there were around 30 pilots, testimonies. there were 4 pilots that broadcast on radio bear june, alleging that the united states was using bacteriological warfare against the
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korean people after the armistice. when these pilots were released or brought back . and they were put through court martials, and they realize that they had been put through what was then called brainwash. could you describe the method used by the communists? interrogated oh yes. i would put these methods into to categorize physical torture . all the start and mental torture. it consisted mainly of spending and attention having my faith flap once in awhile and i did fail to respond as they wanted me to . it consisted of being confined in a very close area. the mental treatment which they gave was a start day designed to try to wear down my resistance to their interrogation to break my willpower to force me in some
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manner to confess. a mind control project starts in 250. this was a project that involved a $1000000000.00 a year. there was a, a formal creation, a british american operation at the highest levels in order mobilize the naval scientists of these 3 countries in order to kind of crack the code of human consciousness. ah, dick on both medical doctors or cornell university medical school in new york city, they got access to some other more classified material on people that escaped from the city and been tortured and the so in wolf was a very well known neurologist. he had a personal relationship with our dallas, the head of the cia, and with the human ecology of son,
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wolf offered to the cia, essentially a friends in order to study questions of brainwashing what they discovered. i was 11 of the 2 foundational techniques and the ca, doctrine of the psychological torture. they discovered a self inflicted pain. what they described in that, in their, in their co author article was that the most devastating technique that the k g, b a n k v d practice was not crude physical buildings. but simply making subject stand immobile for hours and days at a time. if you force a human being to stay in a certain position, especially position that puts a little stress on ligaments or muscles or bones, joints. it doesn't take very long for the pain involved to become absolutely
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excruciating. but nobody slain figure finger on you. you are doing it to yourself. ah, that was one of the techniques, the over technique they discovered was from the, the biomedical research was dr. hat's work. it was the chair of the psychology department, and mcgill university in canada. students volunteered to participate in the study of human behavior under extreme and prolong malott me. their hands and arms were softly covered to muffle a sense of touch, all hard lives subdued by a mass comfortable bell choir. and yet it was impossible for most of these students to take it for more than $24.00 or 48 hours. center deprivation really is way of
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producing 3 monopoly. it's horrible experience getting worse and worse, somebody, somebody talked about cruelty. what they said was that the degree of boredom became intolerable and was once i'd be said as bad as anything you had to hitler had ever done to any of his son, teresa victims. as we know from almost any basic medical understanding human contact is what makes us human. and a let enables a person to have it a sense of normalcy in their lives. and when they are completely isolated from any human contact and often kept in this sensory isolation, you will literally easily become severely mentally impaired on that then they came okay consult of the she i continued to work for them is really the progenitor,
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modern psychological torture on death, this project funded another guy, mcgill named dr. illinois. cameron, what you and cameron did at elena moreland city was, was close to monstrous. ah, i came in psychotherapy, i was just crying, crying cry was a hopeless. i didn't know what to expect. they said i was going to the psychiatric ward. ah, you met that man. that cameron, that's you and carmen. yes, i met him and we were all was terrified of him. why? we all fell to fear. we all had a fear of him and we didn't want him to notice us because whatever he did, whenever there was a patient with them, the patient was always screaming. oh,
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now it shows the wrong one. i just don't know. i mean, you have to figure out his name because the african and engagement it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. ah, i think we'll find out about the ski to coordinate anybody's keith is going to push and push it. if i had a fever there just somebody somebody from a few minutes ago was 3. see what i still was a sub listed at the, but i looked a book with you believe about what will give you hope. all
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right, from what you, what would be with you know this up. i know that you like it, but here for a little, for any weaker, lia, from a brush your production for the new blue with these are the days and hours. oh, the occasion professor, you and cameron was a very famous psychiatrist. he was head of the american psychiatric association and the world psychiatric association. he was the top of the field. at the same time, he seemed pretty much willing to do anything. and the for the cia to find a doctor who didn't have limits in a nearby cap, but oh,
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with lots of patients to work with last is subs that subjects was somebody they were interested in supporting patients would come in, ah, with ordinary psychological emotional problems. they sign their waivers and they will be subjected to this as are urging of xtreme sensory deprivation isolation for, for up to a month. one of his favorite things was he had a server football helmet with a tape recorder in it that would play a tape. and look up to 500000 times, say things like my mother eats me and he would blit the brain with globe's inter deprivation and kind of psychological emotional assault. well, what's working? i mean it's garbage move. ah, what he did was he would put people under massive electro shock and he would give
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it to the banner prolong basis along with what he called sleep therapy. his idea was, once you wiped the brain clean, you could wipe out the site a buried behavior. the bad ideas, the ideas that were missing up people's minds and you could program in other ideas, better. compulsive therapy picked up and was widely used in germany before it went anywhere else. as a way of returning soldiers to board. the german army wasn't going to spend tons of money on psychotherapy for regular soldiers, so they were looking for cheap and effective ways to send soldiers back to war. it then moves into united states or the clinical note of march 23rd 1962, confirmed a 129. e. c. t 's cameron's clinical notice september 12th recommend patterning and
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sleep. the clinical notes of october, 19th, november, 1st november, 3rd, november 8th, november 15, all confirmed the patterning and various stages. my sister knows that was falsely acting strange, right? my mother desire to have. i decided to have the bill to the and find out what was wrong. so i went to the on a couple of months later and the bathroom has shock group was on me. i was in now on for 6 months, and this would repeat. yeah, over days and days and weeks and yeah. is it what you feel you have been through being the patent? yes. hi gosh, and i say you mean mariah and are different we're older. i mean you're a somehow could be yeah,
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well. 1 they don't finish the treatment for me. so when i came out, i was still active and so on. but they did. you went through 3 sessions of d patterning treatments. and when i asked you about things before you don't, you don't remember like i'd say if i ask you, what were you? what's that for you typing for the national defense, for instance, on rap. now, are there certain things in your memory that you just don't remember? oh, i was 1st hospitalized. i was about 1616 and a half. the doctors pushed me into a sleep therapy. and that was it for about 3 weeks in this sort of a deep sleep. but i don't remember getting up to go to the washroom. i don't, i just remember that the doctor came in occasionally to feed me, and that was it. and then shortly after
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a while there was another patient that came in and she was an older one and she slept in the other bed. when i started to wake up, i saw these patients and these patients were in tube, some of them they had earphones and headphones. i dont know if they did any of that to me because when i was the 1st 3 weeks, i don't know what happened. but this was d patterning. ah, this is doctrine of psychological torture that they develop through research in the decade, the 1950s. and was codified in khobar, counterintelligence interrogation manual. oh hm. mm mm. mm. as to basic techniques on which all the rest of the procedures to run one is sensory
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deprivation and the other is self inflicted. thank ah, the cia. the allied agencies in the techniques. so in effect, you know, knowing about, dissemination about is huge. send these techniques to other armies. could you take an ordinary individual like a graph, g, or recruit and make a person become an effective interrogate? and that seems that milligrams make sperm was likely part of this project. when i learned of incidents such as the destruction of millions of men, women and children, perpetrated by the nazis in world war 2, how is it possible i asked myself that ordinary people were courteous and decent in everyday life? can i callously in you mainly without any limitations of conscience under what
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conditions would a person obey authority, who commanded actions and went against conscience? these are exactly the questions that i wanted to investigate at your university. the marines permit very simply, was assimilated torture. this was one, not all the research we've been describing is the impact of interrogation upon the subject. milligram had another agenda, the impact of interrogation upon the interrogator. if he were to indicate the wrong answer, you would say wrong. then tell him the number of rolls you're going to give him. then give him the punishment and read the correct word pair. once he got an ordinary people who fit by all the regular scales, very normal americans. and then he subjected them under false color to just to doing what he called an educational experiment in try to encourage people to apply
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ever higher voltages as a false patient kept on getting, making mistakes. in fact, milgar was able to encourage, at least in his 1st experiments, i think close to 70 percent, to go on to apply highly dangerous and sometimes fatal shocks. i'm not going to get that mad sake of their money. i mean, there are no lights in or not, we must go on until he's been wrong. i refuse to take the responsibility and get her there. i mean, he's on there. all right. it actually essential. as you continue teacher, there are still many left here. i mean, ged, going get wrong as to when in last. i mean i was going to take the responsibility of only have was that gentleman responsible for anything that happens to continue with? i natural slow. wow, dance truck!
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music answer plays wrong. ah 95 old dance the yes, he did this simply with a very simple thing. putting the person behind the wall and having a person with a white lab coat, telling them that they needed to continue. very ordinary people can be influenced by situations. and it's one of the implications of both the milligram experiment is embargo expense. the stanford prison experiment was i think, a unique attempt to answer that question of what makes some people
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behave in good way. but what makes some people behaving a bad way. and so the idea was let's, let's find an evil place and prisons everywhere in the world are evil places. and let's fill this evil place with only good people. to get the students involved, i had convinced the palo alto police department to make mach arrest of all the students who got a president. and then they came down to the basement of at stanford psychology department. the place where the prison study was done. the idea is prison is made to feel inferior, insignificant, worthless. the most important thing is you take away their name, they become a number. and of course, given they have smocks it with no under pans than behind is showing
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like my 1st hour in there. it was humiliating, lose also, abrupt was quick. it was just, you know, take them off, put this on. and then i got dusted with baking soda, which was supposed to be the d. lauser. and i was living in the cell. what some bardo did was a very cheap dark off of the kind of thing that milgram was doing. not always embargo, but i think, you know, the guard called john wayne believed that ethics don't matter if the environmentalists artificial and that's not true. all life is real life we needed to get tougher with the prisoners and it could well be that we were instructed by the experimenters to get to. in fact,
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i don't think we considered ourselves to be a subject of the experiment. we're merely a tool of the research is to get the results they wanted from the real subjects, which we thought were the prisoners. and i decided to become the nastiest prison guard that i could make myself or i was responsible for coming up with all these routines that i would put the prisoners through where i'd have them stand and align, recite their numbers, do push up to do jumping jacks i had never once stopped to think that these prisoners were suffering any harm or any damage. we're not, we're not beating anybody. we're just sort of applying psychological pressure on them. oh wow. yeah. been
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