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live on the planet for its given dual ambassador, the u. n. is a mandatory requirement. can you understand why people don't trust the united nations today? the united nations is a great idea and if it didn't exist, we would have to create it. now, of course it's $193.00 states and it's not. i'm done with that. and it's not monkey movie. i mean the organization is the state. and anything that is human is, of course, in a way is functional, it in a way of corrupted and you know, way i, jack and the united nation does very good things. i and i plan especially work done by the world health organization and the international labor office and the world intellectual property organization. but of course,
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those highly political issues are, what does the security council do to preserve the piece that is actually the principal or on the united nations daughter, the commitment to human rights, a commitment to the right to the development in all of those areas. we are limping, and we're limping badly. and of course human rights. and we have the standards. i mean, the norms are there that mechanisms are, they are what we don't have is. and for the special rockwell cur, the human rights council. they are like, and the procedure of electing the experts is anything but perfect is extremely political and black reason. obviously, most rockwell occurs are those people who are going to tow the line in friend is just to interrupt that. we've had very good ones on this program. arguably higher,
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i believe that say, god knows, accurate. the good news. if we have a meals meltzer, good friend of mine. we have an elaine, i go hand, good friend of mine. we have only a, there's crew that good friend of mine. but of course, not all independent like these 3 homes. and when they write their reports, that you obviously value and you and you mentioned that would be able to see our interviews with some of them on our youtube channel. you me, you mentioned them in, in building a just well daughter. their, their lunches to governments are ignored. i mean, obviously, julian assange comes to mind and you, you make it clear that before we, i mean, along with the importance of pace, the right to truth. you say is so crucial in bought. i bought a building a just world order. a neil's melts as letters to the british government were often unanswered and i think i'm not even sure with whether they have been answered about
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what torture of a journalist in this country. well, certainly it's a case of torture, both physical and psychological, and a working group on arbitrary detention or rate 2019 declared the detention on the conditions in which up a song was living in the ecuadorian embassy in london. if violation was 9, overcoming on political rights, arbitrary detention. i hammered on that several times when i was rock motor on international audit. and what the british government say at the time, they thought that we were ridiculous. that's the word they used. we were ridiculous asking this back to you, what you say to quote, perhaps the most scandalous and immoral example of the multinational corruption of the rule of law of a law fair as regards as regards the sanchez case in the context of it. and this is
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a constant theme in the new book in your new book, the degradation of language. well, it really, i mean, if you thought that this isn't all the, i had a bad, well, you know, see i, everybody was intimidated. what if they clearly are of our age, is that we're being lied to every day. we are swimming in an ocean of life, and we're happy about it. we accept the fact that cnn and box on the b b. c on the new york times and the washington post light was every day. and i'm not saying that they are disseminating only fake news. of course, i read the new york times. i read to watch and of course i must be important. i want to know what you're saying. the problem is that they so correct information. these are correct. sometimes 50 percent of what really crucial to understand an issue. that being the case you are being like took those media organizations and
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say for purposes a space and they reply to a criticism like you just made by saying no, the fake news problem stems from people who defend juliana serge. well, the fact is that if it was only great news generate a history i'm, we're dealing with fake law because b, u. s. president. they are not state of downing street burly. they make the law, i think all along. and then they a book principles which actually are not hard law as if they were. and that leads of course, to a clash when you have
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a representative of the european union. but who is speaking with the foreign minister or the president of poland or of congress? they're not speaking the same language. they don't mean the same thing when they're talking about your mock procedure or freedom, or identity or culture. it is a problem when the united states wants to say, come back to the agreement on iran. well, they're not speaking the same language. let's make a phrase, humanitarian intervention. i think people would recognize that i don't know the soviet union duration of our, which was your monetary intervention. i think you went to terry an intervention is a pretty established phrase. in the book, you explain how that, that phrase, which is meant to save lives,
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kills people out of money carry an intervention. they invented a new term, which actually is pure propaganda responsibility to protect our 2 p. i don't see a scam, as we say, as well as that the purpose of our to p, the purpose of humanitarian intervention is not human. a terry, the purpose is regime change. the purpose is to circumvent the absolute prohibition of the use of force lay down and article 2 or 4 of you white chart that is hard law and the your in charter from all other agreement that you all know. but with this pro, i can they pick up say
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a strategy that say we are going to bring your mind a terry assistance to libya, 2011 here. any kind of resolution? 1973. i mean, that was seen because what the intended, what to help the population all for libya and not to destroy the country, create total chaos. i don't even get a b simply functioning mammography afterwards. so here you have the emblematic case of correcting language. and you said that in itself is something that you and i both agree and we do want to help individuals. we do want to how you saw that. you saw that at the time, but russia and china can easily be blamed to for abstaining on that. they have to
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say to you and not security council. you know, when i spoke in the general assembly, i presented my report. that must have been 2014. and i was pushing for the idea of reforming the security council and doing away with the legal power. i actually explained that by that how you can graduate not from now the tomorrow, but gradually move away from this legal power. and the russian delegate took the floor and took me to and say, look, you know, we were full by the french and the bridge and the americans. and we went along and only put in our ah, ah, to resolution 970 great. they're not gonna lie to us again,
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and they're not going to for us again. we just had i 3, if you have them though that was under president meditative. and of course, then we saw syria and we saw and strengths of the biden administration, launched as strikes on syria within the 1st 6 months of his inauguration. all illegal, all illegal. an hour sank and normal price winter up. barack obama, the king off the ground. no one has killed more people with groans and bicycle, but he still are said this is of course the kind of indoctrination that we get day in day out in the new york times and in the washington post. this is that per section on reality, that the narrative managers are trying to impose on the rest of us. i have to get to another theme me in the book here. you talk about investors state dispute settlement systems. there was a sort of cassandra, revealed the power of corporations to subvert me in the convention. and i suppose
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it's particularly timely your chapters on that, given what has happened to a lawyer defending indigenous communities in ecuador, i must ask you in the, in the context on this book. what happened with steven dawns ago, why is he in jail right though? this is again, law fair, this is a correction of law, shall we say, a collusion between our corporate power and the judiciary. and that is not uncommon in the united states. and it's, it's really a matter of concern how the administration of justice and the administration of criminal justice has been hijacked by the billionaires by power and the military industrial complex. and everybody remembers it was on the 17th of january, $961.00 that my president, dwight
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d eisenhower warrant us america the wear off the military industrial complex is the greatest, correct? to our democracy. nobody listen. the military industrial complex today is the greatest, shall we say, destroyer, all democracy in the united states. it's either one that fuels war all over the world. the one that while takes the money away from health care from education, from maintenance of bridges, you know, breakers fall into the mississippi for lack of maintenance. and why is that? because we spend more than 40 percent of the budget in the military in procurement and more nuclear submarines and more grounds. vast disaster, i'll stop you there more from the author of building
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a just wild order. after this break, i saw a message from an unknown account because it had a selfie with my passport as its profile picture. i saw pictures of my documents. it will say also sent a credit contract. if i had just 3 days in a, comply with their demands to see if i didn't send money and they sent up an online hate campaign. i was supposed to be a very dangerous man. us dollars reserve currency. the days are numbered. there those even the big coin community that held on hope that somehow the us dollar well remain on the world stage. but as hillary clinton herself points out, the coin is essentially undermining or destroying the u. s. dollar, because the u. s. dollar can't hold its purchasing power because it's via money and
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no fee up money over the past 300 years has ever escaped trading to 0. ah, ah, ah ah, welcome back. i'm still here with professor al, for disaster, for me you an independent expert on the promotion of a democratic inevitable international order and the author of building a just will do you make a recommendation that essential services should be kept in government hands, which obviously i'm talking to you from britain where everything's been privatized when you really think water in the g internet. the u. n. should, should make a global pack the, the essential services should be in government adds, as you recommend in this book. i think that if you read the comment on economics or
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from cultural rights, ah, you will see that stage already had an obligation to guarantee those essential services. and of course, there's no enforcement mechanism. so all state bodies, truly covenant on economic social cultural rights can violate with unity, the united states systematically ignores what the human rights committee says in a concluding observations including what with regard to indigenous. i mean, you realize that the big, you know, of the united states, which we call indians, although they have nothing to do with the indian subcontinent. but they creased on the seal and the navajos and re cherokees. i mean these people now here we massacre . but we stole praise of dollars all their natural resources. and these indigenous are completely,
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shall we say this in franchise. but you say the w t o should be incorporated into the united nation system. presumably, it would have to be if, if those native americans were going to get the land back. obviously the w d. o is something britain is particularly interested in because of bricks and how could the w t o ever be incorporated into the united nation system? well, they already has an association agreement, but it is not for the secretary general of the united nations. i'm going to go back to tell the director general of appeal what to do. the same thing happens with the bretton woods organizations, meaning the international monetary fund. and the world bank are they have a very loose relationship with the united nations. and essentially they work, i dance the interest again. the purpose is on principles over united nations,
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rather than advancing the right to development. what they often do is that they can say black male country is a little bit of money. well then you have to privatize every day and then you have to cut the civil service and then you have to cut the investment in education and in health care. and that actually is at the source off the pass for feet in so many african countries that have not been able to come to grips with it, or for that matter would allow, with that matter, with all these and demick that break out in africa regularly. because the money has been taken away from the hospital, you read all about it in the lancet. it's not like you have no access to
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information. actually, internet is a fantastic source of information to prove that the i a math. if i didn't, the purposes and principle of the united nations, i m f and the need to know was he denied they claim that they are for the benefit of mankind or their public private partnerships or did i, is again, brought and nothing. but let me give you a quote, bye bye. i me. the old former, the director general if you know, he said tray is human rights in practice, quote, unquote, i say, oh wow. human rights in practice. well, how about help me? you know, the pressure men in bangladesh or the fisherman and wherever
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overcome the for over 50 that you have by the commercial, enormous fleet. now just sweep up everything. the main, we say sickness of the system of human rights protection today is what i call the red herring, the wrong priorities. the money is being spent for issues of gender. not that gender is not important. what is not the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd priority? the 1st priority is peace. make a and in order to have peace, you have to control arms straight the arms race. you have to make sure, but if there is so much trade in arms, you want more so that they blow up the drone. somebody blow up,
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i need no more. i've got to say that, i mean, obviously when, when countries do say they want to evade that new liberal model and not have the public private partnerships to an extent. although lately that's not quite true . arguably it's venezuela and the human rights industry as it's cool comes down hard on them. you finish the book talking about venezuela. you probably know the president maduro believes that gold has been stolen by the bank of england here for a strong to consider the door and not even to be president some other. but i mean it's like a crass violation of international law and international order international. the wrong place or did they call it? was this that was completely with a my roommate, an independent expert on international order. and when i asked the very 1st un drop
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with her, went to venezuela to be on the ground to talk to everybody. i talked to the opposition to the national assembly through the chamber of commerce, who professors, to students. i went on the street, i spoke with people real people. well, my report because it was not singing the song they expected me to say was essentially ignore. and he was thanks to a colleague of yours, michael selby. green, who interviewed me many months after the report had come out because the report what he needed. barrett, it's been a long interview with me for the independent which was then followed by interviews in your news and on pat huh. and i guess the etc. but the problem is i had very concrete pragmatic recommendations. the thing is we're gonna implemented the release, 80 prisoners that i had requested right away,
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entered into a new corporation agreement with the f, a o was a w h o with you and hcr, etc. i brought all of these, you want to do better and said look, you know, there are too many a lot of there and need a price. what you need a 2nd bracken, please help them. it is when people, not the government is when i'm people. but anyway, my message was that you want to carry a crisis if you can call that the humanitarian crisis in 2007 being that this economic crisis one, i think that this economic crisis was a direct result of 20 years. all economic war waste by washington against women as well. and then of course, aggravated with these aspects the sanctions since 2015, it's inconceivable that there is when i was unable to transfer
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funds anywhere because no back would take a look when there was a year there as well. and embassy or been as well on our mission somewhere. and they had 2 friends for money. the banks would refuse it. and with regard here in switzerland, you know, i'm both an american citizen and it's we citizen and i'm very proud to be slaves. and i very much believe in our system of any direct or sick, but even this wish even they, you'll be yes. even. you know, the big a banks are afraid of the american sanctions. so they will not even transfer money to venezuela, which is donated in the context of call the 19 when with regard to cuba, for instance, an association here in switzerland collected money for cuba. i wanted
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to purchase then 2 layers against a 19 and ship them to give the company here in switzerland refused to sell me a story, told time and time again with sags very briefly at the end, i got to ask you, then if you are a world leader who doesn't want to appease washington and brussels. what do you do in the face of those sanctions? you have to organize within other countries of the global south, away from the united nations, away from the un security council i made, i made specific recommendations with regard to a shall we say good movement. all saw countries that are suffering under sanctions that they should know,
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all of them refused to cooperate with the united states. you can bring down many obese sanctions if there is like in the case of my gun, the and civil disobedience. if you have a mass movement that says, we will not put up with this. what the problem is that the european union has to be traded its own business people as be traded on citizens by allowing the extra territorial application of united states legislation in europe, including the helms burton act of 9 $196.00, by the way, also adopted under a democrat, our friend bill clinton, everybody price is obama. barack obama. everybody prices bill clinton. but actually they're not much different from the republicans. they just, i mean they are lighter and they sell the product that prevents designs. thank you
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. and that's of the show will be back on monday, the international. they have solidarity with the palestinian people observed as u. s. u. k armed is ready, killing about athenians continues until then keep in touch my role as social media and let us know if you think the united nation still has relevance on the global stage. ah mm. i don't even if this one was the spiritual someone at that this one is a copy of this with
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some did the wash them with a new beside that. so i me at the, what the now there should she usually said almost i also what i'm going to look up in cities, it took us once initially, right? yes, the key moments it, she's leeway and she said, well, i make no sense. you know, born is just like to tease and you as a marriage, we don't have a therapy, we don't have a vaccine. the whole world needs to take action to be ready. people are judgment. 2 common crisis with we can
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do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great, the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together with o. hungarian proverb says you can put everything under one hat. it means that the same rules can't be applied to every one. and yet this is what beauty pass signed up to when it entered the european union in 2004, today hungry is accused of all possible sins against democracy. now does the or bank government feel about its future and place in the european family?
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and people is still thing the cause right on police reports in all caps in december, 2020 a group of anti fascist. sell out a film crew access for 3 months. i feel like if people are organization, if an idea that it must be opposed to chill out the game while they may come with that. but he says, but they can say what they believe in. we believe in helping our community. we believe that fascism is one of the major threats to the united states as gotten reuben, this is a chance to see who and t for really are in order for me to extract my 1st amendment right and say that my life matters have to be on to the teacher, that's how america we can't trust the police. we can't trust the government. we can't trust anyone except ourselves to protect ourselves in
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a new private strain in southern africa. folks global panic comes in countries to shut down and travel with the region. the variance is already spreading globally with the u. k. the latest nation fund cases. the developers of foot, nick v are preparing to test the russian shore. they gave me new wilson hair from the hungarian foreign minister about his own country and boxing policy and the need to put lives above the policy. there are few and many countries considering issues or by explanation as even if had a political or, or ideological nature. you know, it's about liable to be to protest those are killed and almost 20 injured by the french military and asia, according to the country's government. off the french military convoy wouldn't been
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