tv Cross Talk RT November 22, 2021 7:30pm-8:00pm EST
ah, to discuss these issues and more enjoying by my guest jordan. similarly in budapest, he's a podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, cross to dmitri bob and she's a political analyst and editor. and you know me, internet media project, right gentlemen, cross off rules and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it or a start, i would deem it here in moscow. a president putin address to russia's foreign policy elite. and it was quite interesting that he talked about red lines again to the point of reminding, as he likes to say, where his web rushes, western partners, which i find quite whimsical, to be honest with you. what he did, he's basically saying you're not taking serious rhetoric very seriously, and you do it at your own peril. i mean, i don't know how much more straightforward and simple you can make it. ok,
all you have to do is go to the website, the kremlin dot, are you and you can read these things the much, but no one in the west seems to be typically bother. go ahead. oh, the problem is that they do general factory or the people responsible for that. for $49.00 states, they will not be fired or sported relations with russia will only from experience and the consequences or relations and we wanted maybe devastate. i mean, the reason why the wider program or the border between all of them or was the reason why it is so you. it was full and cannot talk to bill or they cannot talk to, they won't they, they, they, they don't want to talk to deal with a lot of if you borders publications which has a relatively independent your, what's going on the role that we have, like children you know, the grown ups, you know, like mrs. murphy was talking to, the ceiling doesn't fall down, you know,
they at least try to resolve the problem. and we are facing this problem and we can talk to you when you, you know, the same story with russia or any kind of dial with russia now. hello. i'm looking at speaking about concessions. and you know, dialogue is viewed as a huge, huge weakness. you know, we should be taken to russia if we can see the crimea ukrainian therapy. you know, you know, i visited the crimea 10 times in my childhood, in my young years. i never heard of water green spoken. but you do like the states considers crimea great. it means that u. s. warships and biggest wards, well be no rush and it was at their own peril. you know, the world may go down, but they will be doing that. and the people behind it, boys, johnson or american produce,
they know they're not going to be held responsible. if something terrible happens, they will blame it on russia and the continuous. i mean, just this week we saw this new responsible staff to congressman suggested look pretty nice in victory if you're around since 2000. thank you for so this is a disaster. the meeting? no, i'm not sure whether or not these people are, they have already placed even happens and we may lose one and then what is the same day? you're a sports, you know, with russia or with anyone in the west, disagree with. well, your church is like playing in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. i mean, this is a, a foreign policy in the mind. ok. it's completely divorced with, from reality on the ground. i mean that the russians obviously very perturbed with nato's posture in any country would be, i mean, it calls itself a defensive science,
but it looks pretty offensive. you're sitting in moscow here and, and all the, much more. so to have dialogue. i mean, basically they're saying we want to avoid the worst, and i think we all want to, we have to at least talk to each other. i mean, i'm glad team of brought this up. this issue about the, the migrant crisis on the be a route, a polish border. it's not really a crisis. i mean, it gets a lot of media coverage, but i mean, in the scheme of things with the migration problem in europe, it's really quite small potatoes. but this is a cultural here and it, the consequences could be dire and i don't think it's the, i see western policy makers, edema said no one gets fired for, i mean they, they're sleep walking into a disaster. go ahead or. yes, yes. but the problem is also that even when there is dialogue rushes, western partners which is very politely, being deceptive. and i think that's something that in the overall repeated over and over again, which is a, we go to the french,
would talk to the germans. and they tell us that they support the cause. and yet they do nothing until to further the minutes because they know exactly what's in them. is that what is available online? and they say what it is, it's an agreement signed between the author of the authorities in the bar. and there are certain steps that here is compelled to me and that he steps here has not may, which is changing its constitution, granting a special status to the dentist and the amnesty, and then not done it. and not only are they not done in france and germany, i'm not doing anything at all to push them towards it. on the contrary, they keep encouraging evidence of jurassic and more serious. the nato keeps encouraging here by telling them, this is a conflict between russia and ukraine, and that ukraine is the victim of russian aggression. and this goes all year,
the year of the year, and it's the, you know, it's already now in the 7 years as the signing of the midst of was no russians are getting to very pretty, very upset about this. because essentially the wes, this is lying to them with no interest at all in resolving this problem in the country. they are trying to strengthening ukraine and encouraging them to try to resolve this by force. and that's why who says red lines, this is a red line. we're not going to tolerate. you're trying to resolve this by force, but everything which is doing is advancing towards that end. i mean, bar is johnson science, a strategic partnership agreement with you. great. and as does blinking then what, what else the russians could close. that basically is that all of the key major partners are encouraging you crate to try to resolve this by force. and that is definitely a red line. so this is how it plays out. encouraging zelinski regime a to be more robust in its attempts to regain control of the dumbass.
there is a military operation larger small. it doesn't really matter. it forces a russian reaction because the russians have made it clear that these 2 problems will not be ethnically cleanse. we have to remind our viewers that up to 14000 people in the done best have been killed by the government. and so they want to force russia said, and then they'll say, see their aggressive, that's how they want to play this, you know, dealing with the biggest loser in all of this is ukraine. go ahead. oh, i think the biggest loser. so radio family in was russia and ukraine. it has been possible to visit your brain during the last 2 years. and then later on this, but also the refusal when you bring it down with a basement right. but you know, at. 2 no cost, no rush to just to give it there for free. you know?
and they said no, because this is a machine from amy, this is a big scene because it was made in rush, tens of thousands of your brains die. and this is no reason to get for the rest, but see the same story with all of the thing. yeah, i mean, let me tell you, or maybe not all of them know this, you know, so, you know, for bell russians, it's like their 2nd, it was like st. petersburg russians. there is music in the south. there was the understand the know the governorship was basically a single entity inside rushing by a recent ball and the same people you just, you and your for their, you know, and now that building a wall or 200 miles long in length and 100 miles well, yes, that is
a greg. well the and why? 2000. why the more that as far as i know, 800 microns and to read them every day. so he's basically the same amount as you, because i think this is an invention problem that the claim is, i mean, george and i have talked about this in the god and is that, you know, this is a problem. this is a be a roost poem problem. that only the russians resolve. ok again, this is a ploy. ok. they, they won't talk and you know, they won't talk to them about this, but they and they really don't want to talk to button, but they really want to resolve it. are you crazy? a several days ago now talking to russian because she's not right now talking to you because she's an evil as the right. so they will give you
a new one and they just expect that you know, and then let me go back to georgia. they're talking among themselves, thinking if they're going to resolve the problem, like talking among themselves. yes, talking on the cell because the migrant crisis, as the great crisis, is something that nato power is one to use as a propaganda weapon against russia. they seize on this, they made no attempt to resolve this over to him by humanitarianism. so they show no matter what. so they still, oh great, we're going to use this as a propaganda. whether the was absolutely right. the people coming across the channel illegally from, from france to the u. k. every day than the people on the border. but that apparently is not a huge problem or is johnson isn't right me wrong. i don't know, you know, the terrifying sanctions war or anything. and yet, this is supposed to be a crisis, and yet,
and despite the fact that the centrally inhumane methods of being used on the, by the, by the postal artist, again, the final that the g, several issue, the statements a, we stand solidly with, poland. so where is all the humanitarianism is something, is very useful, is just something to mobilize. the troops mobilize the west. so you're, you're saying ga, the french and the british, they're squabbling about the channel. but then they come out with a g 7 that are incomplete. solidarity on immigration is really quite whimsical. a going finish up here in the news reports here that and then he has an $8500.00 troops to the, to the be a russian border. i mean, what should be a diplomatic political, even economic solution. again, we have these powers relying upon military to solve a humanitarian problem. i mean, again, it seems quite contrived to me last 30 seconds. going to go ahead. well, i think it's all
a lesson because he was friendly with them by russian being regime in its origin a rate. so it also shows be focused on the west. why is it gained? there is no problem with that. we can pick him when he is friendly with them because they're not going to take a single i jump in here, but it seems, you know, i do the whole history of cross like we have the 31 flavors of lucas jenko, who would have thought a gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to where you're breaking up about your break, or can you continue our discussion on some real new stay with our team. ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we
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let's go back to george in budapest. i'm the written house, a verdict is in, and of course the it within american elite circles, you know, did, did the system work? it was their justice and they can chase their tail all they want about that. okay, that's fine. but one of the things i guess for me kind of being a bit of a far away is, this is still another contrived story that falls has fallen slight on its face. weapons of mass destruction, russia gay bounty gate. ah, hunter biden. we can go on and on for hours and hours, and this one, this one really was an ultimate fail because i think you, all of us would agree. russia gave was important to some people in it and it had elements. but this is something that so internal, the left is racialized, everything divided people by race. and now you look at the mainstream meeting, the,
the broad sheets look at the liberal a stations and they completely got it wrong. when are people going to finally turn them off? george, go ahead. yeah, it is quite shocking because this is a real patton, it's, it's something that's ongoing. it's all like where you've got this all that story wrong, but generally you get everything else, right. it's just, it's systematic. i mean, here was this the case in which every single thing that the mainstream media, mainstream politicians talked about, what was wrong? i mean, i mean, all the stories about it, he was a white supremacist. carrie got a gun and carried across state like a straight line state line or if it and so and everything that he went a was a vigilante. every single thing was wrong. ok, you know, if there was a recent case like treyvon martin case with george settlement again,
every single thing was wrong and deliberately so. and then it was, you mentioned russia gave me russian date is of kind of late of say stories. and it wasn't just the steel dos, you know, we got that right. there was also the story about we lease a lease as about the trump town meeting a alex on the down. it was all. and then you know, you mentioned all the other cases. so there was a systematic pattern here, and what is really pernicious is that they also the guardians, the watch dogs, the mainstream, into the watch talks of what is meant to be sent. so you know, anything, the holes, you know, they will, they deem to be fake news of the ban. so we just know that we have the case of the coven. i mean, how many stories have been put out about co and was immediately oh no,
this is untrue. so this must be bad. don't imagine how many people will ban for saying that back seems on in effect a facebook with its own. now it's admitted. yeah. you know, yes, i mean, the last is may or may be 60 percent effective. yes, the vaccines may only be good for 4 months. but that's the new story. and then again, will the stories about the home to buy the laughter. so these are people who a fate use also the lives of the guardians. what is the mystery to say so, and you know, the self appointed policeman of the information space this, this is right in your, in your will house here, is that this is the ultimate ideology trumps from justice drums. reality. i mean, these are all, it's all,
this is ideologically driven towards po for the sake of political goals. i mean, news. i mean, once that it's irrelevant, i mean, particularly in the, in this a written house story. i mean, it comes into a complete focus here. we're damn the facts. ok and, and the, and we're, we're basically to, i don't believe you're lying on, i mean, don't watch those videos. i mean, it did so patently obvious that this trial should have never gone to trial because it was ideologically driven. and there were political goals at stake. i mean, that's what the prosecution was such a good phone going. well, basically there is a rule in the relationship where you haven't only don't why the base of the western media right now is that already small conflict, they're not, they're not narrow in the well now whitening like ok, there was the stage with my little house. he was defending himself deep,
he pressed partial rules with that. no, he's a white supremacist. no, we should make it a matter of nation wide discussion. we do the same story with foreign reports like the whole gradient trade. you just started from a very small issue. should you grade have a station agreement with you in the 1013 or maybe 6 months later as you suggested. and what did they do? oh, when i read is in support of that association. oh, go use vegas. you sticks to disperse, the grow. oh, that means we should use or these people are in fact the used lot there. so i guess you know, he's a criminal. he must be overthrown. even though he wasn't legally. oh, some people did not agree with his what. what role use walrus against the tense?
he's allowed you don't feel state that was a well we use our guys use tanks and. 3 planes, that's fine. so out of a small issue, they all us grow a huge, huge problem and now the world may die. you know, in the back seat we have a real danger or you clear why? because you couldn't stand the fact that young boys asked them, asked them to wait for 6 months in 2013 same story where they cannot accommodate any ology has no patience as we hung up here. and also to, or who it is interesting is that years ago you would have them say, well the jury is spoken. ok, good outcome, bad outcome, but they have spoken. but that's not the case anymore, because not only do many people condemn the verdict, they can,
the process in which the verdict was so decided upon. so that's, that's what, so that's what shifted here. and obviously, if you did, if you are for the verdict that, that tells the left the people in power, everything they need to need to know about you. you don't have a name, you don't have an age, you don't know and you don't have origin, you're a certain type of bad person. i mean, when everything gets to still down to the simplest denominator. now that is extremely unhealthy for a vibrant society, george. that's right. because whether the media of a is of, is the desired narrative, the design narrative is that the ha, maybe even more than half of the american public all worse. i mean, they are the deplorable. they are, the vaccinate that they are racist. k support. that's the narrative they want. so when they, when they come to a case such as a case and down in florida,
oh, this case in kenosha. they want to use this. so here is this, this kid he was 17 years old. he's a stand in for races, white america. so that's the story. you know, you become, this is a little kid, something becomes the vessel, all the media hatred for the great on war. it becomes the right then and, and the rest of that same collection with russia, gave them russia and the great on war. but somehow they live one of the same. and then, you know, and we have spent the last 56 years trying to link the right with russia that somehow put in is the man, you know, not, and he just did he give us a truck. but he's behind all the rightly populous moves that everywhere that we don't like with are available. so now i this, so they,
any, any situation arises. they're always looking for the russian angle here. you know, they're going to show the single russia is really behind all of this. and that's why a, when you mentioned some of those cases when the home to buy the story came up in the election immediately without any evidence of all we have, you know, 50 intelligence officials are open letter. so all this the smack, so a russian, this information, again, no, it is of this, but the mainstream media went with those. well, this is baffled by who wants to make things back by the state. and i, i'm actually surprised that the, that hasn't been a full 2 car written house collection yet, but i'm only for it. i think that's coming nation. georgia is inevitably having to deal with what's really important to point out here is if we compare rush a gate, the hoax, and this isn't campaign against this at the time
a 17 year old across state lines like i really that really goes over the top. it doesn't matter if they, if the, if the powers that be the liberal establishment gets it wrong because they always to fall back. but our cause is a higher cause it doesn't matter. and this is what so pernicious about it. and because you know, they all, no rush again was a hoax, but it served a purpose and the other call rittenhouse trial serve to purpose. it doesn't. who cares about him. ok, and this is a country we all know, but we need an ideological victory. that's what they're only concerned with. they they, they're, they're, they're not even ashamed when they're exposed for being the liars that they are. go ahead. well, i think us wants to say that the, i mean, i know we think he's very out here, but i'm what i'm saying, is it a?
yeah, well, again, a relationship with your spouse never wired. the beijing never say this is what you always do. this is how you, you know, so the problem stay with matter. and this is exactly the american media. exactly the opposite. you know, i think i already, you know, how they want to, if you read the initial stages of the press power to rush again. thank you. russia, we're both support can be a lam radius. why? why are, you know, somehow we're old something that made, you know what i'm asking for? if i think that will happen most likely because this is not, but it doesn't matter to me because those post exist somewhere on facebook. oh oh i did, they, they will be mind forever in perpetuity. last 10 seconds team a finish up. yeah. so i think that the, you know, when we criticize the need yet,
we don't criticize, don't be precise. we criticize what is behind it because these are no just need a mistakes, a strong my think the need is just the reflection of a bigger problem, which is dangerous or not on the excellent point, that's all the time we have. gentleman want to take my guest here in moscow and in budapest. i want to thank you for watching us here to see you next time. remember, oh ah, i saw a message from an unknown account as it had a cell with my passport as its profile. i saw pictures of my documents, it will say also sent a credit contract. i had just 3 days comply with the demands to see if i didn't send and they set up an online campaign. i was supposed to be very dangerous
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and people is something they can't ride on police report if you can. in december 2020, a group of anti fascists allowed a film crew access for 3 months. so like if people organization, if an idea that must be opposed channel out the game while they may kill their faces. but they can say what they believe in. we believe in helping our community. we believe that fascism is one of the major threats to united states has gotten proven. this is a chance to see who and t for really are in order for me to extract my 1st amendment right and say that my life matter have to be on to the teeth that, that, that's all american. we can't trust the police. we can't trust the government, we can't trust anyone except ourselves to protect ourselves in a
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