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let me go to you 1st year. i mean, as i said in my introduction, is a lot of things going on right now. we have this growing tension with poland and barrows over immigration, a lot of finger pointing, i must say a lot of a very exaggerated name calling out there doesn't help us understand what's going on. also, we seem to have kind of a revisiting of what happened with what was going on in ukraine and spring of this year of this year. there's encouragement of the care of government. there are, there's caution, there's arms coming in. there's back slapping the and we have, we had a germany and the u. k. and, and france come out recently um, upholding the new um, the, the borders and security in the sanctity of ukraine. again, a change of tone from the spring. we also we have the energy situation, the north to stream to our pipeline has been put on fries again here. i mean, are all these things connected or is just chaos theory out there. go ahead,
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daniel. well, you know, peter mandatory is conspiracy theorists. yeah, of course it all seems connected to me, obviously, obviously turning up the dial in ukraine, which is a very convenient thing for the west to do now. especially with zelinski and surprise, surprise, still more trouble. he lost control of the night in their parliament. he's desperate to stay relevant. of course, the western countries are desperate to keep things going. we saw another barrage of rockets into don bass yesterday. i think it was recently, of course, and we see of we see the migrant ward, which i think is certainly a hybrid war in on the border of poland bows entirely. the fault indirectly certainly of the e u. and you have the us, of course them out, whitney black sea. so this is sort of an encircling hybrid war against russia and it just goes to show the blinking is no better than previous secretaries of state.
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the binding ministration is asleep at the wheel. okay, well peters, and then let's agree. these are all connected here and i think they are. that's why i posted here. i mean, what does washington hoped to achieve? what is brussels hoped to achieve by this? because this is really upping the spanks on the stakes on a variety of issues here. and none of them good. i mean they can be resolved, but i don't see that there's any interest in resolving them. actually just the reverse rising tension serves their purpose is go ahead peter. a peter, i'd actually like to broaden it a little bit because the other crisis that's developing is the one over taiwan. so we've got the potential for the, for i outbreak of violence both in ukraine and in taiwan. so they're very, very dangerous moment right now, in the aftermath of the bungled pull out from afghanistan, dep biden has been desperate compounded by the plummeting
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approval ratings in the united states is really been looking for foreign policy when and he's gotten himself involved in 2 situations. that could both backfire and, and are, are both very, very dangerous right now in the, i'm approaching it less for the standpoint of where the blame lies. and from the standpoint of what we have to do to defuse these crises, both of which can unravel very quickly, people draw the analogy to world war one, where we managed to get involved in war that nobody wanted. because of that, various alliances and various things that happened there were out of people's control. but i see the same thing happening in this situation. so yes, as a lensky is in a weakened position. yes, the right wingers in ukraine. i have been much more aggressive that and i now with the bay back tar drones, from
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a turkey that was so effective in as a, by john's defeat of armenia and using them now in ukraine. they feel like they're in a bolster position, and they seem to be much more aggressively going after the don bass. and so how does putin respond to that? and to other provocations like the black sea, i've put a more troops at the border, and nobody really wants to war there. and if there is a war, much like with taiwan. with taiwan, the pentagon has run 18 war games. if the united states in china go to war over taiwan, and china has one all 18. similarly with the situation ukraine, russia is much more powerful. i don't think there's any chance that ukraine is going to withstand a military confrontation with russia. so, but these situations have got to be diffused before they get to that point. so i think we're playing a very dangerous game in the united states in heightening intensifying and upping
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the stakes there. and the tension pressure in both of those situations. and i'm really glad you know, i'm really glad that you broadened it out. i'm glad you mentioned taiwan here, earl, and me go to you. i mean, this is high risk, this is high stake stuff here because, you know, this is not iraq, this is not afghanistan. not even syria, because since peter brought in china and, and let's included here, china and russia can fight back, and they've made it very clear their red lines here. this is very different than fighting these ridiculous wars in the middle east here. russia, china have read lines, they've made them very clear and public here. nonetheless, we get all of these provocations. i mean, i, there's, there's no rational explanation for it other than what peter said. the biden ministration is desperate for apollo foreign policy. when i mean how you to find winning here i, i mean that's the scary thought. go ahead, earl. no, peter, you're, i mean everyone. you're exactly right. and so peter and, and daniel on their perspectives, and they may say that the, the domestic agenda,
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the complete nightmare here. and, and they need popularity rating for buying or, or, or down can, i mean, considerably popularity rating for the vice president. tamala, harris is historically low, it's the lowest rated vice president ever so they need some wins and era. you know, i mean, you've got, you've got your order challenge from mexico, with almost 200000 illegal aliens crossing a month. not 2 to 5000. i wonder when it will start to point the finger at for or collaborating with next school or something, but yes, they need to do. they need to divert attention away. so they're looking for foreign policy one. but if you look at it, every foreign policy approach they've done,
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everything has been a failure with china, with russia, relations, or even the office deal has irritated france, one of our historically longest allies in the u. and it's just, they're looking for something and actually i think away, part of this is to contain russia and china. i do think they're all interconnected real. if you look at the root cause of every one of the issues, the energy crisis, the don bath issues in ukraine, the migrants in the, in bell root, they all go back to foreign policy failures for mistakes or missteps. whether that's invading the, the middle east, whether that's changing how, you know, spot market energy contracts. well that supporting by don all feedback into mistakes that were the root cause of from, from western western countries,
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mainly led by the u. s. gets yeah, you're absolute trying to look for something, even if, even if russia comes in or thailand or china takes taiwan, russia, it comes in and crushes ukraine, then they can point, oh, you know, they'll look for a political women. ok, that does, that's exactly where i want to go. because daniel went, what do we mean by a win here? because it might be a quote unquote diplomatic political wind. but i mean, it depends. you know, what, the situation is a wind over ukraine scenes. ukraine crushed and thousands and thousands of people debt is that's a win. i mean, if that is a win that then, then, you know, then we live in a very pathetic world here because that would, the way i look at is all these things. is the u. s looks added to by administration . looks at it is low cost. ok, but the outcomes could be catastrophic. go ahead, daniel. you know, i've always,
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i've often thought about the irrationality of us one policy. and i've also often thought of it in terms of mistakes, but i really no longer think that way. i think these mistakes are all very well plans, and i think it has to do with very, very powerful vested interest in the united states that depend on continuing conflict in the rest of the world to justify massive, massive military budgets to justify the u. s. military industrial, complex, think tank, complex media complex. all of these things are built on a house of sand. they rely on conflict and for about 20 years, it was the war on terror and that sustained what i think that was more of a bridging maneuver. and now we're back into territory where they feel more comfortable cold war 2 point. oh, and this time we have a new a costar, which is china with the old bad boy, russia. so i think i'm beginning to think these things are all very well planned to keep these people working. whereas we would probably say they deserve to be out of
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work. but i think these mistakes are well planned. i think the us once a conflict, but not necessarily a war, and that's why it is so dangerous. they want to see how far they can push the conflict. and assume that russia and china won't go all in. when you assume in that situation, there's not a lot of room for maneuver. i don't think. yeah, leader, that's like putting it's like bedding your entire fortune. i'm a day trader. that's an american poor policy that day trader daniel. just explain it. okay. i'll get you back to 30 seconds before we go to the ready. go ahead peter . we can comment on that danny's right and the united states is pushing these confrontations and conflicts up to a point and fix it could control them. but i'd like to talk about when we come back is how the abide is foreign policy has really been a continuation of trumps foreign policy for the most part. and that this is creating destabilizing situations and much of the world right now. okay,
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i'm going to go to a break here. i mean, peter is just teased us with a overarching theory and it has all connected with donald trump and we're going to explore that after a break. so we'll continue our discussion on rising tension state with r t with i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where said shorter is it conflict with the 1st law, show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. at the point obviously is too great truck rather than fear a very job with artificial intelligence. real,
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go away, it's assessed or something's going to happen. i saw a message from an unknown account because it had a cell phone with my passport as its profile page. i saw pictures of my documents. it will say also send that credit contract. if i had just 3 days, you know, comply with their demands. if i didn't send money and they sent out an online, hey, can i was supposed to be very dangerous man. ah, welcome back, the cross walk where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing rising tensions. ah,
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okay, let's go back to peter in washington. i mean, considering the by did ministration bends over backwards to do the very opposite of donald trump on almost everything except for foreign policy. you teased it in the end of the 1st block there. tell us what you think. go ahead. peter. foreign policy in the united states has been frustrating, elite bipartisan for a long time, and bite and ran as the anti trump. in terms of competence, care as a compassion in terms of being a peacemaker rather than a war maker. but the reality has been very, very frustrating. in many ways, what biden represents toward trump is what obama represented to our bush. a more sophisticated approach that legitimized be confrontational policies of the previous administration. as so when ari fleischer said that, well, bomb is 2nd term is really george bush's 4th term. he was on to something there. and in many ways, biden is doubling down on trump's foreign policy,
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especially visa v china, but also visit e, russia and, and iran as well. so what we've got now with we saw with the bush administration when they brought in all the people from the project for a new american century. and how they were the neocons. and they were the hawks. and they brought us afghanistan that brought us iraq and, and libya and then our, when we give biden's a obama, some credit for livia to and sit and syria. now what you've see with the biden administration is they brought in 16 top people from the center for new american security. and these are the hawks who are doubling down on so many of trumps policies at this point. and so instead of peeling back what you know, there was the june summit in geneva between potent and biden. and then there was some easing of tensions after that. the problem in the united states is that you've
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got a bipartisan right wing pressure on biden, to be hawkish toward china, to be hawkish toward russia. and so now with this situation developing in ukraine is not a lot of room for maneuver for biden. so and, and the situation as, as danny was saying, is really, we were pushing these, these crises because we need to support a frightened population to support vast spend it, you're on arms sales, which is the heart of the military industrial complex and has been for decades but this is creating a very dangerous conflict that can easily spiral out of control in both the pacific and in ukraine. right now. yeah, been earl, i mean if we, if we look at, i'm a completely agreeing with peter. but i mean, if what we're looking just at the law in this century, the last 20 years, i mean the road record of quote unquote success. and they're applying their
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expertise. now the difference is, like i said, in the 1st part of the program, we're not dealing with afghanistan and iraq. we're dealing with russia and china. ok. and by definition, these 2 countries have the ability to say, no, i mean, that's not a very interesting negotiating pattern here. and i would, i look at it this way, is it washington? and it's, i always do not want to negotiate. they want surrender, which is not going to happen. and that's why we're making this program here. go ahead. earl. now, peter, you're absolutely right. the, what we've got in a way, it's a policy of containment. they think they can push, push right up to the edge. and ideally, they would like to be a reading change in china, and russia is not going to have the also, they're kind of kind of thinking that china and russia are bluffing, but, but try to rush, you're been very clear on the red line. and they,
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i do not think they're bluffing. and so next time the conflicts that the u. s. think they can maneuver man in multiple things. i'm going to say the high grid. you've got the energy and i'm excited you got the conflict naval presence long. the ukraine as well. it's all wrapped together, but it's so easy, so easy to explode and get out of hand. and then also it's dangerous, as you, as also now is open at least discussions of the use of tactical nuclear bethany right. lorrie, i'm sorry, you're not going to container. use that for me. it's going to blow up. strategic. yeah. and either way, ukraine ah, the region around taiwan, ukraine in europe will be the ones that will pay the most. and no matter how the,
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how the situation, by, by definition i meant i was aghast. that you know, for a tactical nuclear weapons 1st you thought that we were, i thought we, we retired these things. but apparently not here, daniel, just as a geography questionnaire and united states has not border the black sea, but it acts like it's a black sea power. i mean, can you, can you explain that to our viewers? because you know, the, the, of the amount of interests into interest that's being expressed by the u. s. navy, in the black sea. obviously the can in this cannot be any more than a provocation. rush is show known aggression to romania, bulgaria at all. okay. but now all of a sudden it said tension point here is that's it, that's intentional. go ahead, daniel. well, how about this? oh, my gosh, russian troops are massing in russia. this is what we get into what passes for a free press in the united states. and you know, that is key and the other key we've talking a little bit about china and taiwan. the other key is when the u. s. continuously
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runs warships through the south china sea, key word being china. you know, the u. s. is still fighting world war 2, a world war one. this idea of territorial warfare is gone. nobody has it. china isn't taking over places. russia isn't taking over places. they're actually doing business overseas, especially the chinese in africa and elsewhere in latin america and elsewhere. the was still obsessed with this idea of taking territory. it's so antiquated. nobody does it any war any more. and again, you have to look back to why and it's what we call the deep status, what we call washington. i mean as much as i'd hate and who your war will be nice to see. washington made irrelevant again and revert to the swamp from whence it came. a man on that, peter, you mentioned august 1914 and a perfect historical parallel. but i think as we look at ukraine right now,
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august of 2008 seems very appropriate. given that, you know, you have this demetrius yarborough's, a fanatic nazi like figure. all he wants is a conflict in the dom, beth. he wants to kill people. he's recently been brought back into the highest levels of the cleaning. that cannot be an accident here. ok. i worry that we have a wag the dog situation here and all of the ingredients are being set up for that happening. go ahead. peter zalinski is in a weakened position there. they haven't been able to deal with the corruption. the economy is very, very shaky. politically, the right wing in ukraine has been gaining more power. although the more pro russian faction had been sent than for a while. but they're trying to tamp down on that and so and they've gotten more, they're encouraged by the use of these drones. so. busy effectively, a lot of things have happened to change the situation the last couple of years. so
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landscape, i had come to power, impart overwhelmingly of when the victory, based on say he was gonna bring peace with russia, has now gone the opposite direction. and the talks have broken down, we know what the solution is there. it's some version of the minsk to agreement. we can solve that problem. but soleski has backed off of that. and the united states is not putting any pressure on him to come to the table. that was an agreement that was signed between ukraine, russia, france, and germany. and this can be resolved that situation. the situation in taiwan also has been heated up unnecessarily. that with the status quo, there was very, very calm for a long time till the united states began meddling there as well. so we're, we're in a precarious situation. you, you talked about august of 1914 and i are always talking about red lines. we have
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to remember that william burns, the youth, now c, i a director, was the former us ambassador to russia and in 2008. when the united states started talking about george bush talking about ukraine and georgia, joining nato. it was burns, they sent back the memo to washington, titled me yet means in the yet, don't their cross rushes red lines when it comes to ukraine, joining nato. and that now he recently went over to moscow to try to talk to them as has other top officials from this administration. and we're getting nowhere in terms of actually resolving these things to those united states. want to resolve them. is part of the question, what were, as we were saying is the, and i say simply want russia and china to accept you as a gemini, u. s. domination, you asked you to polarity and come in as junior partners and help us solve climate crisis. and other things like that. well,
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china and russia are not willing to play that role anymore. as a chinese foreign minister and the top foreign policy official made clear to blanket and sullivan in anchorage, you can't talk to us for a position of strength anymore. and russia is showing the same thing. and so we're, it's, that's why we're at this attention point. now we're, we're all worried that it's good to unravel with these entangling alliances. us is not officially have responsibility to come to ukraine's military defense. they're not part of nato united states as not have responsibility to come to tie one's military defense. we are position is strategic ambiguity, yet we're saying bite is making statements on both fronts, to indicate that we will. and that's even more provocative and more dangerous in our all, i, me at the end of the day it's very, very simple as a biden administration, like the previous administrations days, demanding that the world accept american hegemony. and that is eroding very,
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very quickly on all across the world. we saw it happened in the middle east. we thought with afghanistan, and now we're seeing it now here. and there are countries like russia, tyner saying, no, that is the dilemma. here it is, the u. s that has to accept it's new strategic position, not russia and china. last 30 seconds. go to you url, go ahead. i think you're right in a way. we're, we're diplomatically, we're still thinking the book was doctrine, as far as us supremacy and do whatever it i think there's conflict thing, things going on within the administration as well. you recently heard, i think the defense department mentioned that years try try great power competition going on. and we're moving a multiple, a war world. that's where we're moving to in the us needs to. if they don't accept it, if they try to fight like a like a rabid dog to maintain their superiority the world is going to be in a very critical, dangerous situation. well we're, we're an yeah, not
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a very depressing. no, but like, i like how we started here, but that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in washington and, and like jackson, and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time. and remember across titles with ah, or new york. it's really what america is about in our mayor took our place. he was elected because of his campaign on our city, being a tale of 2 cities. the has and i have not. and those who have not are usually the ones who wind up being buried on holiday. the city is always wanted to forget about island city is wanted to forget about the people who are buried there. it's wanted
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