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a great is it realistic in terms of social and economic policy general prioritize the health plan while also delivering people into for, sorry, well, to discuss it now joined by john christian professor political science at the university of toronto and director of the g 20 research group those are kristen, it's good to talk to you. thank you very much for taking the time to meet with you . ok center. i know that on the eve of the 20 some if you since wide optimistic about its prospect. and if i understood your rationale correctly, you're sensually argued that the severity of the challenge is that they went to latest have to deal with. doesn't lead them my choice other than to broad as leads them to get down to work regardless of their differences. and the difficulties now
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that the champagne bottles i, i you just as a bit about the results of these gathering as you were on the eve of it. yes i am. i had predicted that it was on track to deliver a significant performance. at the end, i concluded that in fact it had that significant performance overall was made up of the 3 big priorities that the leaders i had to act on and that they did. the 1st of course, as you mentioned was people. and that was all about saving lives from cove 19 in a world where covered 19 is as we speak, killed at least $5000000.00 people in cost many trillions of dollars. and the big stand out promise there was to vaccinate 70 percent of
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the world's people by the end of next year. that's a credible commitment. even though the numbers and then we will address the other 2 fees as well. but let's stick to this one. they definitely made commitments, but the question is whether they and they made those commitments before, you know, and the previous various interactions. but as things that now there's still no mutual recognition of vaccines. so let's say me or girl from russia despite being fully vaccinated by the homemade, let's see. i will not be my house status will not be recognized in your, in your country of canada and the same applies for you as well. so surely talked a great deal about that here with the people that they have, they actually deliver it. you're right in that russia is
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a real problem with only about one quarter of the people fully vaccinated for a number of reasons, including the exceptional vaccine hesitancy within the russian federation of globally, amongst the 7000000 people. i was encouraged by in the wrong community was not only the a specific a promise, another wrong. but we did have a unilateral promises from some key countries about how many donations and doses they would produce and deliver by the end of next year. and here the biggest one always from india, and we know it's got the production capacity. it promised 5000000000. now you put that against the 7000000000 people on the planet. and it's
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a major step forward. yeah, now and then we created for promise to be to cure it. there seems to be a lot of pee this evening, but it has to be realized that they have to deliver certain financial support. and me for this promises before the for a year ago we heard them 2 years ago and name this promises still remain one they are promises. well, i 2 things on that, tom ah, a year ago we had some countries in japan, for example, didn't have doses promise dollars to callbacks, but even a fall that got the dollars, there were no doses to buy anywhere. there was a global shortage. now we have a global sir plus mom in the rich 7 countries of the vaccine that everybody wants. the pfizer is the journalist
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and even know that now being approved. so we have the supply. it's simply a way of getting them to other countries that need them and then going the last mile because there's a vaccine hesitancy, a very poor health infrastructure to deliver them in so many places, afghanistan, 80, and so on. but by the end of next year, i think we can do it and hit the 70 percent target. now dr. credit, and it may seem like a rather bile or let's say a logically motivated question, but i don't mean i don't mean it as such, but we know very well that many developed countries including candidate, by the way, who are the diagnosis of faxes you. now you say that there is an over supply now,
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but if i'm not mistaken, canada has contract is 4 times as many doses as it passed people, while many countries in africa, vaccinate oakland, administer a single shot to to that people easy readiness to share really go through from the bottom of the car, from the genuine care for the people are simply from, you know, your own needs being fully satisfied. and now you have to deal with the over supply those scenes. and of course, if you don't need them, why, why can't you share them with those who need them? yeah, good question. canada, i like many countries of the, not the russian federation could not produce vaccines of its own. so it had to all buy them from other countries. and at the beginning you didn't know which ones would actually work. so by the canadian government bought 4 times the city, hoping that tom, with one of them would work or 2 would work and they'd get 50 percent of each of
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the deliveries. so on time, the big problem we now face is that come countries, whichever surplus are saying i know, we want to give a 3rd dose to our most vulnerable people. so we don't have any to spare on the whole candidate is not on there yet. but we still have to make sure that the a delta plus variant doesn't spread from the united kingdom, which is being ravaged by it, into other countries. so like canada and the united states. so it's not a sure bad, but on the whole a, it is something we can do when brought her point behind all this is a, my group monitors the compliance of all g 20 members with their commitments. they made a thorough last summer. the last one was in riyadh, saudi arabia,
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november 2020 by the big commitments. so we're on precisely this. and what we have found is that a year later on, even the rome summit countries had complied. an unprecedentedly high level, 85 percent. so finally, the g 20 summit are making the commitments that really count promises may promises count and i am optimistic that because that great shock of co bid is still with us. i think we'll get high compliance with the wrong commitments on cobra 2. and i wonder if not on the outside. so they say very tragic situation. is that, wow, this whole pandemic clearly magnified some of the long existing inequality in the
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world. i think it also provided additional agency and energy for those who are on the shore and all the sort of the stick. and by that i mean that many of the african countries have been waiting and waiting on the developed world to deliver those promise vaccines. some of them are now developing those vaccines on that. oh, and we see more and more trade on the local level. people are finding, you know, that calling in very, very unusual places. so i wonder if, you know, if one of the silver linings of the current pandemic is the disadvantaged, are becoming less dependent on the privilege, at least when it comes to the level of nation states. i think that's great insight . and here we have to go back to one of the most successful at g 20 summit
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that was in st. petersburg in september 2013. we're the 1st time g. 20 leaders promise not a strong, sustainable, and balanced growth, but inclusive growth growth for everyone. but they were in many ways some just words until the coven epidemic pandemic made it very real. to out of nearly stage, we did see some countries donating vaccines by russia to neighbors china, to and finally of the united states in big volume as well. but now we're already seeing the rich countries of the g 20 actually provide practical support for domestic manufacturing in different countries in africa, and further work commitments were made at the rome summit. that's one of the
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reasons i'm optimistic because by the time we get to the end of next year, it will be just importing them from india. it will be making them out within self africa and it can send it to it african neighbors as well. now that brings me back to the question i posed in the very beginning of our conversation, whether people, climate disparity is just a nice combination, of course, whether one can realistically count on protecting the planet while also delivering all as people. not just the 65 or 64 percent that beside the 20 countries, but all of its people into prosperity while dealing with still rapidly mutating virus with falling incomes are rising. budget deficits are all the other problems that seem to be multiplying. it's realistic,
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i understand that fraction of this moment, but do you think it's supported by data that could be done? ah, i'm optimistic about what rome can do if we turn to prosperity. for example, one of the brig breakthroughs was an agreement by the better off countries of the g $22.00 channel to give their share of 2 thirds of a trillion dollars just created at the international monetary fund. that's about $350000000000.00 and give some of it to the poorest countries in the world, the poorest again, we go back to working for the bottom one percent of the global community and not just the top one percent. and that the g 20 summit to we saw
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several countries step up and made that real a. canada was one of them. others to but um, china has also, even though it still says it's a developing country, head of the g $77.00 plus a china to is just said that it would channel some of its new sd ours, they're called but it's so real bunny to the poorest countries in the world isn't enough. uh huh. no. they have to do more on debt relief before the poorest. but some signs they, i know it actually a will do more than if that summit had never taken place. and another one, if i could just and prosperity here. they finally introduced a revolutionary new tax regime. so the richest multinational companies in the world
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will finally have to start to pay taxes to the governments of the countries in which they make their money. and those are poor, high trees, as well as, ah, rich ones daughter. and we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back to the discussion in just a few moments. ah, join me every thursday on the alex salmon show. and i'll be speaking to guess with the world politics school business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then. mm. ah russia, this class of car was discontinued more than 20 years ago. even though stayed with
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it, took 5 years to close the gap on the will car industry from the drawing board to the 1st finished model gibson, with the commercial with ah, what was the director of the 20 it research for the recruitment before the break? we talked a lot about that people, we touched on the on the 2nd p of prosperity. now let's talk about this 3rd key,
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which is now i come from a country who leadership, i think is valid being a strong mistrust, western academic and scientific expertise, especially when it comes to climate change. i think not even climate change, but climate policy. i think that would be more precise, and i think many people in moscow see this latest energy crisis as a prime example of how expensive and tara list it could be. well, why staff that use ideology, even a green ideology or solid analysis. i would like to ask you as a, as a had of a major research group. do you think some of those about skepticism it's valid? i when i look at, i'm not mistaken. and is a pro sean into the room summit end of the glasgow summit on climate change.
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i don't see any ology. i see that he like me now understands that there's only one real existential threat to all living things on the planet. you know, in both of us grew up, but it was nuclear war. now it is a climate change. so what i would focus on is his recognition of that scientific reality. and we do have to remember that russia still has in many fields. so the best scientists in the world and when it comes to any of the countries down that something is happening, it's not, as i said about climate change, but rather what to do about it. what is the best, the most efficient, the most um, you know, efficient they,
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and they said way of dealing with the civically, whether it's with transition to the renewables is advisable or even safe. at this point of time, i bring it back to the current energy crisis, which was a in par, drawn by the, by the low wind generation in the u. k. that certain political decisions made in europe about gas and oil. do you think they call for amy, caution, or should be or go full speed hack into substituting fossil fuels with renewables as soon as possible? oh yes we should am. you're quite right tom, but now that mr. trump is gone, we have no climate deniers at the table, but some wonder about what mister boston. our brazil still believes in his heart
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and soul and whether he believes in it enough to in countries that still depend on cola south africa. whether we have to move into renewables a fast and on our renewables where we get the power. i think what we have to do, and we're starting to see it, is gone beyond the traditional on wind and the solar. after all, are russia like it? it is a cold, dark country, but we also have some of the longest coastlines in the world. so that means not only offshore a wind, but wave power. title, power, totally predictable, and many other forms of our renewables are to including nuclear power, which i think we have your additional energy source. let's say some people in the
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western will not consider it as a, as a clean energy source. ah, nuclear. yes. germany and japan with their very distinctive history going all the way back to the 2nd world war. but here are the french are right, or the arithmetic says, we've got to keep the existing nuclear plants on. we have until they and reach the end of their a lifetime. we just can't afford to shut them off. well, you just said a moment ago that we shouldn't just exclusively focus on the solar and we can keep it. or they try it for a moment because if we can do the whole production chain from, you know, rare materials to, you know, producing accumulators to them. recycling, everything that is lab. it's a pretty energy intensive and dirty process at this point of time and many
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developed countries preferred outsource that production on to the other part of the world. don't you think it's slightly hyper critical to that lady about saving the planet? and so sort of outsource the dirtiest part of it on to your neighbors. i do, but one of the good things about the next generation of our renewables is almost all g. 20 countries have oceanic a sea coast. all can do geothermal power in the form of the heat. pumps are stored on hydro and many other things. so that's the next to renewables or revolution we need. but on the bigger point of sending dirty industries abroad, that's clearly why it's an old problem. we need a single set of rules and in north america, canada facial the problem. we have
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a single national price on carbon or friends in the united states don't show well the dirty industry is move there and then pump their products into canada because we have a free trade agreement with them. and russia, of course, spaces the problem even without a free trade agreement with the european union, with a single national price on carbon. so we do need to get a hold of this problem. and the 220 starting to before we have a big trade war. even if we need some common rules here, i want to who can you know, agree on those rules? because even if you look at the latest i'm at and roam, 1st of all rushing china graphs, and i think one of the reasons they were asking was because they simply don't agree with the way western power stance. you know many, if you leave the climate change issue and that's my personal opinion, i, but i'm entitled to it. and 2nd law, if you look at, for example, and joe biden,
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you know, and i mean, wrong with that. and what are kate of high and mission? car numbering, i think $85.00 we goes on boys johnson taking at thomas dad to get from london to glasgow while also fuming about the environmental impact on commercial aviation and why what have you. i mean that, that kind of looks like, you know, this is a subject to, you know, treat but not necessarily to practice. well, i blame my, you know, on mosque for not getting transit and buying an electric kessler. i knew about it. and then biden is a pretty experience statesman, and he, he cares about why he could have i tied up his entourage a little bit here. maybe, you know, from if i cars maybe to, let's say 30 that would save the planets. i'm environmental impact. would it not?
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i don't think the difference between point 60 cars is going to be consequential. and i think the image, the president, tessa said from his are real policies. i gave a real substance to his claim for environmental leadership. the united states as a substance, abuse is 85 high emission cars and he said he talks about they need to present to plan and shoot. he's starting south. i mean, i have this expression been boss, stop here, chunky dance train back. you know, he's on behavior. cutting a u. s. emissions by 52 percent. by 2030, and 0 by 2050. if only the other on a traditional superpower would accept those numbers on the world would be much better off because they are in the top tier of climate polluters.
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so the real problem doesn't lie in the white house in washington, if a law lives in the congress where a lot of the republicans on, inspired still by donald trump, are seeking to destroy him. because they're a great guru. donald trump really still doesn't believe in climate change show. i think all of the other members of the g. 20, you know, russia, the china, we have a common problem inside the congress of the united states. you mentioned another b r c power. i assume it's russia and you know that the recent position on climate change is that we definitely should be dealing with in, by improving energy efficiency and developing more sustainable sources of energy including nuclear power and bringing hydro power, including natural gas, is
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a way to go am russian says that a absorption capacity, huge absorption capacity. now this idea in for it also should be taken into account . do you think that this claim is justified per decade? i think one of the great problems in the global governance for climate change is everybody has focused on the sources of emissions up, you know, energy and forgotten about the power of the sinks that absorbed them, that shut on down. so finally on, you're quite right. we have seen the world talk to for a super powers, that's the russian federation, and canada. get their partners along with help from other friends, including the united states. i to agree. they now stood at glasgow just of
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the other day to stop deforestation 9 years from now. so those trees can continue to absorb massive amounts of greenhouse gas emissions at rome. did she 20, they finally agreed to plant a tree and trees to start to replace all those we've all lost. now there's more that the 2 countries could do. candidate in rush, we are the world's talk to superpower is not only in forest, but in p. lance in pete lands absorb much more carbon than even our forest still show. i'm waiting for that g 20. it didn't at rome, but maybe at glasgow the un well, to discover the power of our peep lambs and save them to wow.
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let's see how to go. it would be very interesting, your fraction kind of that with each other. they actually do something for themselves, but also for the benefit of the planet. and if people a we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. always the pleasure and thank you for watching hope. you're again that speak with me. ah,
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