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or contracting russian or 3rd kenzie stuff severely impacts our ability to provide counsellor services. the extremely limited number of counselors staff in russia this time does not allow us to provide routine visa or us citizen services. or editor of the online use website viscount vamping dividend. or if has questions over y rushes night, gripped on the same list as war torn countries. it's the average person who gets hurt by this and you have to go to worse off and you have to get the shing and visa so it gets very expensive. it's all very childish. it seems to me, every other country on that list is the 3rd world country and looks like half of them are countries that are wor, torn's, you know, they're either involved in civil wars or wars. and, you know, understandably in those countries, the u. s. doesn't have much in the way of a, of embassy officials. it's all politics. it's the us now on this,
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this anti russia campaign that i've been going on really, you since the late obama administration. okay, before we go, i want to bring you a opted a significant one that's on what is happening in sudan. nuts is where the sovereign counsel chief has not declared a state of emergency and is all the constantly cabinet and has announced elections for july next year. and just to recap earlier today, the sudanese information ministry said the country's prime minister. i've been taken by the military to an unknown location not followed his arrest. earlier on monday morning, the nation's capital is also unlocked on. so a state of flux very much in the african nation right now. and not indeed is, are up for this. our more great programs here going in moments than worries. here with all your global news updates up the top hope you can join in
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ah, [000:00:00;00] ah, hello in welcome across the dock were all things considered? i'm peter lubelle's. the more nato tries to explain itself, the more obvious this cold war relic needs to be retired and for good. also, joe biden told us he wanted to be the great unifier, unlike the evil orange man. indeed, now there is growing unity in the dislike of by ah, to discuss these issues and more,
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i'm joined by my just george samuel in budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor in us me internet media project. on the cross up rules and effect, that means can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate let's go to gym of 1st year. a demo, there's a saying in politics, the more you're explaining, the more you're losing. and it seems to me this applies to nato because it has a number of different narratives going on out there. we had salt and burn the head of nato recently in washington, and just, you know, the, as if on cue, you know, it's all about china. no, it's all about russia in china, in all the same deal geopolitical landscape and security scape and all of that. um, it is getting kind of panic now. i mean, as i said, if you're explaining it means you're losing, go ahead. oh, good. what past oldenburg has been seeing it in the last 2 weeks was very
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contradictory. he gave an interview to edwin, got in august, step or worse, basically, reduced into bumper stickers like russia web one to contain china. i want to engage, even though it's aggressive, and i'm going to start, i'm going to watch that she gives an interview for the financial times where she says, oh, you know, the threats are global. so russia and china are basically the same. it's my big threat that we need to deal together. well, i think that the story was me over the years before that world war 2, you know, when italy and sometimes finland, you know, they, they wanted to be l. i. so here we're doing their small little things, you know, all the pair just next to the like the aliens wanted to take greece and some of the islands. the famous probably wanted to take part of korea after they were there by started and they can switch and 9. but then he told them,
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oh i helped you intelligence with race. now, with me just started graphs, you know, the field keeper told them, oh, you took about of greatest now help me to do besieged grad yes. and they had to go. so the same story here is the paul doesn't want to fight china. you know, the last thing was the height of going to want to do, you know, is to find china. they want to settle their scores with russia. that's true. and that's very unfortunate. but washington, just, you know, forces them, nato follows viewed. it forces them into a global confrontation and then from predictable, you know, what sort of the big will say next week is not convicted, but, you know, it's in our company. there's no geo political strategy here. it's not coherent. you don't charge, you know, when it's that back from it. i mean, at the end of the day is as much as nathan wants to claim that brushes some kind of
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security threat to the european count in the western part of the year. asia land last the day, the russians really don't care much anymore. i mean, they think they're so important, these europeans do not go ahead. yeah, that's right. and i think that it's a striking, that years go by. and they so is unable to articulate any kind of a rationale for its existence. and that's why it comes along with all these contradictory statements. but, well, you know, we're, we're in the business of this new concept that the defense in the euro atlantic area. so then issue is ok, so roger is the end of it. well, you know, russia very aggressive want to watch on russia on mostly gauge with talk to russia . but the problem is that nature is creating the very problems and then turns around, well we are the solution to the problem because it,
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let's just say what happened in the last 2 weeks. they expelled these diplomats and said, well, we're coming back on your of your russian presence. nature. well, the russians just don't understand what we were tired of all this time being all these accusations, we're just going to no longer take part in all the same time. we're closing down your office and most of that nature uses that you are looking how aggressive russia is. the same thing with lloyd austin, the us defense secretary here. last week he went to visit the georgia grade romania and the last to georgia. and you gray, the daughter nato membership is open for you. well, how does nato, the united states expect russia to respond to this way? obviously they go to respond with considerable trepidation which then show them
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about dogs or are you saying you are right? or aggressive look at how mouthing off of the branding and nature, i mean, but the interesting thing is when i asked him with his whirlwind tour, i think the 2nd periods of defense was beginning there. why did you members of the nato alliance at the moment, or not keen on seeing expansion of the alliance to include georgia in ukraine? let me throw that to him, right? because again, i mean, he has expansion. the goal is that as well, they're going to go over the horizon is bad, or is it just everything and nothing at the same time because basically they're continuing to search for reason to continue their existence. and we've just said on this program, 5 minutes, 31 seconds in the it's a number of things. ok, whatever. see your purpose is that the time and the me at the same time you had
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victoria doing here. try and doing group relations or stop the deterioration and then the secondary depends a week later goes around and pounding on drums. i mean, i don't see any coherence here. go ahead. well, unfortunately there are many traditions, but you should always expect the horse with me, joe. because basically the narrative of the last 7 year since they're in boston, it was like russia, you are paranoid, the major is not going to spend and ukraine, it's not on the agenda for that many times, i know suddenly stalled and says, oh, russia should not be afraid of the expansion of nato. do you agree? major is a defense you for why? you know, after 7 years, a war in which russia actually just not a lot, but the worst. keep saying the brush is fight in ukraine groceries, but you know, was your great, your grade is going to be, you go to, you know, huge military wise. and then you know that the one and says, oh, don't worry,
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you have a war with it. but there's going to join the defense you for alliance, so you have nothing to worry about, you know, just loss. so, the same story with, with other merits, like, ok, you are a north atlantic feature organization. what are you doing in the pacific, you know, against china? black, what? why is pacific? when did pacific became? because also when you're great, there are so many stories like that before, like one of the you was expansion and some partnership they included barrels. were asked them why not? why don't you include in russia? well, because we are a union or partnership of democratic, what is bill? are we doing there? oh no, it's just, you know, a conscious gender ethically close to us. what does that mean? you're doing that. you know, we're close to that. i mean, it was just, you know, will you guys explain just thinking right, well the demon also, you know, the partnership agreements are going to the western hemisphere now as well. the
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rationale is for that they're not predictable, but your sure goal is expect the horse because what is behind it is a very region ideology which wants to reform the wall according to the altar liberal modem in which views big just such as prussia and china. as the goal was achieving that goal, in order to remove these obstacles, anything go, you know, you're going to lie. of course, you can organize on who was and then say that these are people's rebellions. 38, but he's been worked in key of doing what was supposed to get peaceful demonstration. you know, a big coach that really left the president who somehow is not legally let the president because he, he was going to the pro ration you know, wanted to join the association agreement, but still somehow it was pro ration, right? so these people will y, as they will use violence and they will use a new pin as long as they feel impunity. the random unit, you know, you know,
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store them back instead of us about them from now, it breaks my heart to see what's going on there. why is it the breaking your career should be breaking your career? not your heart. instead we hear from you or i just feel sad about that. so don't human beings from everything as far. nothing is stopping with the earthy and members of the nato to go when they're stopping and george been stopping them. exactly. well, i mean, we have this, the notice of the europeans complaining. well americans didn't tell us that they were planning to withdraw from me and betrayed by this lack of confidence enough. well, hey, i did. you want to take up the fact that it's out the door is open, but it's what's also interesting is the, the nate dishonest because they know there's just no way that made the member say, such as germany are going to agree to ukraine membership. so what we're really doing is essentially by having
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a de facto membership and others are actually getting more or more troops and miss styles than weapon race stationed in you. so ukraine becomes a de facto nato space. same thing with, i mean, in general, not only oh, you know, we need to, yes, but they don't remember that make us so what does that create? well, as far as that is a secure, right, and this is something that said last week, again, the, the ball discussion, you know, when we see miss style cargo, you know, that's something we worry about. i guess it's just what nato is doing. so there is again, this, the dishonest of major doing is, are officially and when they were, the russians don't around the say, we don't like what you're doing. well, we're, we're defensive. steven. there was no evidence of defense. we know, you know, maybe you can solve it. how does that defensive going to sound?
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how is that defense and also georgia, you and i have talked about elsewhere, is that specifically about ukraine? nato membership is the key to you membership. that's the, it's always nato 1st, then you and this is what is counting on here. also, we're creating a slippery slope and moral hazard year because the lensky is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish off this once. yeah. that's, that's exactly right. and that's why this became become a moral hazard. when you have the nato and you have lloyd austin telling me, flat out, hey, the road to nato is open for you. how are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so washington, and those around was, that was the, the nato,
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is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the, you know, nato have the option that going to say, we're just saying out of this, it's up to you to better relations with your neighbors. may, does it not to do that instead, nato is continually aggravating the problem by essentially processing the membership of nato and the d you down the road. and it's same thing in georgia. and so it is, it is an absolute has a to world peace. and what is happening is naples putting the sovereignty of ukraine and state. your general, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on real that same. oh join me every firstly on the alex silent. sure. and i'll be speaking to guess of the world politics. sport. business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then.
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mm. ah . ah, welcome, crossed out all the insur considered. i'm funeral a bell. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah okay,
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let's go back to george. i want to tell my viewers here how we decide to do on topics on our boards edition here. and from the home edition. and i always ask demo because the men george, very often on what they would like to do and they send me topics and what is the guys 99 percent of the time? i agree with you. so george, you wanted to talk about how to visit joe joe biden is the floor is yours. well, if you remember by this whole thing during the election was that he was going to bring the country together off to the device, the trunk, and all the aggravation. and all the tweeting and everything of trump, he buys the season legislative, the regular guy who works across the aisle. he's going to bring the country together. but in fact,
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he has done something very different. and he's also very unusual because is very much a president with a tiny sliver of a majority in both houses and but instead of you an extra ordinarily divisive agenda. and the rhetoric coming out of this administration is just an amazing device. if it's one that is actually setting americans against one and other ways, the well iraq did the violence science. so just in the past week, during the, the 10 years member ration of the market moves against you. he talked about white supremacy as the braces, the threat to the united states of domestic terrorist threat to the united states. no evidence ball this. we have is justice department again this week said, well the big problem is the red line, a bodies which back of the do to because the racism are unable to get
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a loan from bank. unlike white people, we have again, a lot of widen ranting and raving about be vaccinated and the right that they both just to the vacillated tire house. that these people. so it is all extraordinary. and i don't just generating as much hatred toward one another as possible. and it's kind of surprising because again, even obama leads to the 1st, who actually did have a spanish majority. it was very careful to avoid triggering conflict. and he tried to be above it all united by any of that. so it's a, it's a mysterious agenda. you go to wonder what, what's really behind is. but i think it's a very dangerous agenda because i think that behavior that is now being generated, which i think is also reflective. he's taking poll numbers, putting the, the rock into violence. you know, the interesting thing is,
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is the joe by person higher, you know, half century career and politics is never really good for anything you just looks at where the wind is blowing here and, but he's an administration lives intensely ideological. so it kind of big to drop home at georgia 7 think this is almost like the worst of all possible worlds because he's not really an idea was he does mimicked and repeat ideological desktops. ok, great, great, great sense of ease because there's no up and just to be here. i mean, neither obviously talk and bumper stickers, as you said in the 1st part of the program, he's very much a bumper sticker president right now. and as george pointed out with the business, the margins, ok, there's hope to be another f, b r, another l b j. well, both huge margins in congress and the buying doesn't. we have a country spirally down. and i think because of beside the ology and the culture
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wars, i mean one thing that we noticed that you know, george and i and many pages and that's kind of hard to dislike your bite, but not true. any more. it's very easy to like it is because of this idea. if you go ahead, oh, well, it's exactly true what you just said and you know, when they came to power, there was some hope you're rushing the. so both extra circles that you don't mind can is a service, he's not ready to go. so some way to think when to come down because use a center well, center is inside at the site itself is inside a regular and your widget. now look nice. people, i mean, most of the gruel just in the, in nazi germany and started. so union are done by the centrist, you know, by people who just went with the flow and did everything it was supposed to be done . you know, the banality, weevil. so by the repeat these things that he actually doesn't believe in 20 years ago 30 years ago,
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he said very different things right. about what he bought certain very risky and i will see you this projects are going to be green, you deals. that's what happened in europe. you know, i recently, germany prided to sell all get out of nuclear energy. your bonds are shut down and some of the today will read in the side, which is the main georgia german. and you'd have to use an article by nissan to 1.4 stake we play the crowds. you know, the one thing you can do is to play into which caused by doing something that we should have kept. and, you know, want to tell disposable when the rush is called response, right? and we have the energy crisis out of the way with all russia, even though they know that they just have to register the most you to pipeline. and the problem will be resolved, right? and the end of the rhetoric is so des,
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if you are up so the right this variable full in the area, you'll find them, you know, which is comparable to jimmy conscious. you know, the terrible flying down in the 1st months of your presence. and i think it is explained to a certain extent, barrio by these failed centuries centers incite radicalism. santia inside that is, that is, this is not nice georgina, just as in the parallel for the 1st part of our program is like, you know, we're talking about nato expansion and, and then the blaming need to extension russia because rush is a threat. i mean, a ends up being this really weird logic. the same thing is happening with this administration with the american people. they are prodding more conservative people so intensely that they're demanding a reaction and they see, see, see how see how aggressive these people are. you see what i mean? i mean, when to, when they're there, they're projecting, i mean, they're actually doing what they say. everyone else is. go ahead or yes, yes,
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no question. and i think as a very good example, what you're saying is what's being done now to the january, the people are the punishment and the humiliation that is being inflicted on them far exceeds any kind of collection with crimes. alleged crimes if they had committed is all about, you know, teaching some people a lesson. you're like, what we do see how you are treated. and you know, if i can take a page out of the book, i mean, often talks about the soviet experience and the, some of these, well what the bible b is not on the light. well, the bolsheviks did so people, so in groups of people are elevated, you know, they're special. everybody else is just vermin and whatever, we don't do them, they deserve it. so, you know, with the boss, because the proletariat. so here, if you're black, you're a person of color, asian american, then you know, you are,
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you are a victim, your sanctify, you do whatever you want. if you're a male, again, you know, you forget it, you're out of here. so, so here we go again. last week and the by the ministration, coming out with a strategy to deal with gender equality and equity and all about how you know, where women and girls are being persecuted discriminated against them. all. is this the show? man, all boys are falling behind you all in the book that is in jobs. male suicide is on the rise. and yet, but i get to look and know about the only people that we should be concerned about is are the women or girls that's. that's all. yeah. you know, you came across, but there was a gender person that lives as a, as a woman. but this person was elevated and they're saying this is a victory for,
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for women. but i don't understand that it seems to be a defeat for women. in my opinion. anyway, i'm not as well as other people. it's quite obvious here. ok demon. where does this go? because we were more and more so when we gathered together we are invoking the bolshevik experience. okay. and there will be any with this the little pepper oven. and then we mentioned more parallels. and now it seems to be a direct reflection here. go ahead. well, i would say it's more important period in general because ultimately, but it is now what is the 3rd for most of the day after not just borrow the features. is this constant threat, you know? oh, he said, we're going to die. if we don't expend our live and how, you know it turned out to be alive because after the war, germany bras, but on this my small energy right. in the same way, all the plane,
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it's going to die. and the climate is going to change dramatically unless we immediately immediately spend this $3500000.00 in europe. what's going on in europe? you know, buoyant hungry christian gave that for, for not in the wine. and when the british prime minister made a speech and the european parliament a few days ago, presenting his arguments, they were all refuted by from germany who just fits what you say. what you said makes you happy. you know, i'm saying yeah, give us just what you said makes you happy. that means you should stop it spoken to me. so unfortunately we're going down the road. there are threats, you know, was i just or climate change, whatever. you know, if you can just drop is of age and there are people who are demonized like goldstein in the oils, nor will put you in the,
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in the western media know what she g p, maybe tomorrow. right. so unfortunately, we have the same, same narratives repeated themselves and i don't know where it will lead us. i can only hope that it won't lead us to the same will last us that we, the bureau many g endure during their world war 2. and during their experiments, but it talks more and more like the fact that millions of people killed both 1st hundreds of thousands of people in iraq and they gave them the history and every piece of so 100 percent. it's right. and george, i mean, when you, when you have you disregard the humanity of the people, you hate that it only sets up the beginning of cascading disaster for 20 seconds to george, finish it up or yes, exactly. and i think just to continue with the analogy of the sabbath, the records already the ground is being lazy, but if the,
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by the ministration gets absolutely call the in the next year, then the blame lies with always the old republican government governor's alleges, such as that have changed the voting rules to prevent cheating? no, they were denying the rights of the people to vote. and because of though is that he had interfered in the election road lead. okay gentlemen, that, but i want to thank my guest pass here in moscow and what they are watching, as you've seen next time. remember, ah ah, that kaiser's financial survival guide. when customers go buy you reduce of right now. well, reduce the lower that's under cutting,
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