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relic needs to be retired and for good. also, joe biden told us he wanted to be a great unifier, unlike the evil orange man. indeed, now there is growing unity in the dislike of by, ah to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel in budapest. he's a podcast around the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor in us me internet media project. originally crossed up rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate a gym of 1st year duma. there's a saying in politics, the more you're explaining, the more you're losing, and it seems to me this applies to nato because it has a number of different narratives going on out there. we had salt and burn the head of nato recently in washington, and just, you know, as if on cue, you know,
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it's all about china. no, it's all about russia in china and all the same, a geopolitical landscape and security escape and all of that is getting kind of pathetic now. i mean, as i said, if you're explaining it means you're losing, go ahead. indeed, what oldenburg has been saying in the last 2 weeks was very contradictory. he gave an interview with the spanish newspaper, basically reduced it to bumper stickers like russia were going to contain china, where i want to engage, even though it's aggressive. and against of i'm going to watch and then she gives an interview for the financial ops where he says, oh, you know, the threats are global. so russia and china are basically the same. it's my big threat that we need to deal together. well, i think that the, sorry to wise me over the years before the world war 2, you know,
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when italy and sometimes finland, you know, they, they wanted to be l. i. so he to us doing their small little things, you know, all the terror just next to the like, the 30th. wanted to take greece and some of the islands. the famous probably wanted to take part of korea after they were at their buy, started in june. so it's 9, but then she told them, oh i helped you in that is will race now? well with michel started graphs, you know, the field keeper told them, oh, you're talking about of korea now. help me to do. besieged grad yes. and they had to go, so the same story here is the poor doesn't want to fight china. you know, the last thing was the high degree, want to do, you know, is to fight china. they want to settle their scores with russia. that's true. and that's very unfortunate, but washington, just, you know, forces them, nato follows huge. it forces them into a global confrontation,
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and then from predictable, you know, what sort of the big we'll say next week is unpredictable. you know, it's in our company. there's no geo political strategy here, it's not coherent. you don't charge, you know, when it's that back from it. i mean, at the end of the day is as much as nathan wants to claim that brushes some kind of security threat to the european count in the western part of the year. asia landmass. the end of the day, the reference really don't care much anymore. i mean, they think they're so important, these europeans will not go ahead. yeah, that's right. i think it's striking that years go by and later is unable to articulate any kind of a rationale for its existence. and that's why it comes along with all these contradictory statements, but, well, you know, where, where in the business of the new, the defense of the euro, atlantic area. so,
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so then issue is ok, so roger is the enemy? well, you know, russia is very aggressive, want to watch on russia, but with talk to russia. but the problem is that nature is creating the very problems and then turns around and says, well, we are the solution to the problem. because it, let's just say what happened to the last 2 weeks. they expelled these a mess up from nato and said, well, we're coming back on, you know, you, russian presence nature. well, we're actually just on around the same what we were tired of all this time. being these accusations, we just do a song and say, we're closing down your office and most of that nature uses that you are look at how aggressive russia is. the same thing with lloyd austin,
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the us defense secretary. last week he went to visit the georgia. you brain romania and the last to george and you gray. the daughter nato membership is over for you. well, how does nato, the united states expect russia to respond to this? by obviously they go to respond with a considerable trepidation which then show them about guns, or are you saying new or right or aggressive. how there mouthing off of the grading in nature? no, i mean the interesting thing is that with a tour, i think the secretary of defense, it's beginning. but why did you members of the nato alliance a moment, not seeing expansion, the lines the to include georgia in your crate. let me throw that in the right, because again, i mean is expansion. the goal is status quo. the go the go over the horizon. is
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that, or is it just everything and nothing at the same time because basically they're continuing to search for reason to continue their existence. and we've just said on this program, 5 minutes, 31 seconds in the it's a number of things. ok, whatever your purpose is that the time and deem at the same time you had victoria doing here trying to improve relations or stop the deterioration. and then the secondary depends a week later goes around and pounding on drum. so i mean i, i don't see any coherence here. go ahead. well, unfortunately, there are many traditions, but you should always expect the horse with my job because basically the narrative, you know, asked 7 year students, they're all placed in boston. it was like russia, you are paranoid, the major is not going to spend and ukraine. it's not on the agenda. we've heard it many times, i know suddenly stalled and says, oh,
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russia should not be afraid of the expansion of major. do you agree, major is a defense you for alliance? you know, after 7 years, a war in which russia actually did not. they bought the worst. keep saying the brush is fight in ukraine groceries, but you know what, your great, great is going to be. you go to a huge military of ours and then you know, that's why i said, oh, don't worry, you have a war with it. but there's going to join the defense you for alliance. so you have nothing to worry about just loss. so the same story with the, with the marriage, like, ok, you are a north atlantic treaty organization. what are you doing in the pacific, you know, against china black, what? why is pacific when did pacific became? because also when you're great, there are so many stories like that before. one of the you was expansion and you some partnership they included barrels were asked them why not? why don't you include russia? well, because we are a union or partnership of democratic, what is bill?
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are we doing there? oh no, it's just, you know, a conscious gender ethically close to us. what does that mean? you're doing that? you know, we're close to that. i mean, it's always just, you know, will you guys explain just thinking, right, well, the demon also, you know, the partnership agreements are going through the western hemisphere. now as well. the rationale is that they're not predictable, but your goal is expect the was because what is behind it is a very region ideology which wants to reform the wall according to the ultra liberal model in which views big god, just such as russia and china ass. the goal was achieving that goal. in order to remove these obstacles, anything go, you're going to lie. of course, you can organize on who was and then say that these are people's rebellions. 38, but he's been worked in key of doing what was supposed to get peaceful
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demonstration. you know, of course the really left the president who somehow is not legally let the president because he, oh he was going to be pro ration, you know, wanted to join the association agreement. but still, somehow it was pro ration, right? so these people will y, as they will use violence and they will use a new pin as long as they feel impunity. the random unit, you know, you know, store them back instead of us about them from now, it breaks my heart to see what's going on there. why is it the breaking your career should be breaking your career, your heart. instead we hear from you or just feel further about that, so don't human beings from everything as far. nothing is stopping with the earthy and members of the nato to go when they're stopping. and george been stopping them . exactly. well, i mean, we have this the noses of the europeans complaining. well, americans didn't tell us that they were planning to withdraw from me. you know,
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we'll betrayed by the lack of confidence enough. well, i did. you want to take up the fact that it's out the door is open, but it's what's interesting is the name so dishonest that because they know that there's just no way that made the member say such as german, you're going to agree to ukraine membership. so what they're really doing is essentially by having a de facto membership and others, they're actually getting more and more troops and miss styles than weapon race stationed in you. so ukraine becomes a de facto laser, say, same thing with, i mean, in general or, you know, you know, we need to, yes, but they don't remember that make us so what does that create? well, as far as that is a secure, right, and this is something that says, love again at the, the ball discussion. you know, when we see miss car call,
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you know, that's something we worry about. this is what nato is doing. so there is again, this, the dishonest of majors doing is artificially. and when they were, the russians done around the say, we don't like what you're doing. well, we're, we're defensive. even though there's no evidence defense, we know, you know, maybe you can solve it. how that defensive going to stop, how is that defense? and also georgia, you and i have talked about elsewhere, is that specifically about your brain? nato membership is the key to you membership. that's the, it's always nato. first, that the you and this is what when he is on here. also, we're creating a slippery slope in moral hazard year because the lensky is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish off this. go ahead. yeah, that's,
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that's exactly right. and that's why this became a moral hazard. when you have the nato and you have more often telling me out of the flat on the road to nato is open for you. how, what are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so the washington and those around that was right, this nato is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the, you know, they don't have the option because we're just saying out of this, it's up to you to have been, are relations with your neighbors, may, does it not to do that. instead, nato is continually aggravating the problem by essentially processing a membership of nato and lady you down the road. and it's same thing in georgia. so it is an absolute has a to wealthy. and what is happening is putting the sovereignty of ukraine and state your general, i'm going to jump in here. i could go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on real needs. thank oh.
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obama protect its own existence with oh, welcome back to process for all the inter considered. i'm funeral bell. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real. ah okay, let's go back to george. so i want to tell my viewers here how we decide to do my topics on our bullhorn edition here. and from the home edition. and i always ask demo because demand george very often on what they would like to do and they send me topics. and what is the guys 99 percent of the time? i agree with you. so george, you wanted to talk about how to visit joe. joe biden is the floor is yours.
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well, if you remember by this whole day during the election was that he was going to bring the country together off to the device, the trunk, and all the aggravation and all the tweeting and everything of trump. he buys the season legislative, the regular guy who works across the aisle. he's going to bring the country together. but in fact, he has done something very different. and he's also very unusual because is very much a president with a tiny sliver of a majority in both houses and but instead of you an extra ordinarily divisive agenda. and the rhetoric coming out of this administration is just an amazing device. if it's one that is actually setting americans against one and
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other ways to well erupt into violence science. so just in the past week, during the, the 10 years member ration of the market moves against you. he talked about why supremacy as the braces, the threat to the united states of domestic terrorist threat to the united states. no evidence ball this. we have is justice department again this week said, well the big problem is the red line, a bodies which back of the do to because the racism are unable to get loans from bank. unlike white people, we have a game for a lot of widen ranting and raving about, be back later than the right that they both are just to the vacillated di house that these people saw. it is all extraordinary. and i just didn't generating as much hatred to 11 another as possible. and it's kind of surprising because again,
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even obama, least of his 1st, who actually did have a financial majority, was very careful to avoid triggering conflict. and he tried to be above it all united by any of that. so it's a, it's a mysterious agenda. you go to wonder what, what's really behind this. but i think it's a very dangerous agenda because i think that behavior that is now being generated, which i think is also reflect. he's taking poll numbers, putting the, the rock into violence. you know, in the interesting thing is, is the joe by person higher, you know, half century career and politics is never really good for anything you just looks at where the wind is blowing here and, but he's an administration lives intensely ideological. so it kind of drop home at georgia 7 think this is almost like the worst of all possible worlds because he's not really in id was he does mimicked and repeat ideological desktops. ok,
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great, great, great sense of ease because there's no up and just to be here. i mean, neither obviously talk and bumper stickers, as you said in the 1st part of the program, he's very much a bumper sticker president right now. and as george pointed out with the been in the margins. ok, there's hope to be another f, b r, another l b j. well, both huge margin thing congress and the bike doesn't. we have a country spirally down. and i think because of beside the ology and the culture wars, i mean one thing that we bought, notice that you know, george and i and many pages and that's kind of hard to dislike your bite, but not true anymore. it's very easy to like, it is because of this idea. if you go ahead, oh, well, it's exactly true what you just said and you know, when they came to power, there was some hope you're rushing the so both expert circles, bison is a service,
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he's not ready to go. so one way to think when to come down because use a center. well, sandra is inside at the site itself is inside a regular in your widget. now look nice people. i mean, most of the group just in nazi germany and started union are done by the centrist, you know, by people who just went with the flow and did everything. it was supposed to be done. you know, the banality, olivo. so by the repeat these things that he actually doesn't believe in 20 years ago. so 2 years ago he said very different things right about what he's bought certain very risky, and i will see you this projects are going to be green, you deals. that's what happened in europe. you know, i recently, germany prided to sell all get out of nuclear energy bonds. i shut down and fell into today. we read in the side, which is the main,
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georgia german and you'd have to use an article by nissan to take we play the crowds. you know, the one thing you can do is the way into which caused by doing something that we should have kept. and you know, want to tell disposable when the rush is called response. right? and we have the energy crisis out of the way with all russia, even though they know that they just have to register the most you to pipeline, and the problem will be resolved, right? and the end of the rhetoric is so des, if you are up so the right of this variable full in the area, you'll find that, you know, which is only comparable to jimmy conscious. you know, the terrible slide down in the 1st month of your presence, and i think it is explained to a certain extent, barrio by, by these failed centuries centers incite radicalism. santia inside. but that is, that is, it is not nice georgina just,
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just in the parallel for the 1st part of our program is like, you know, you're talking about nato expansion and, and then the blaming nature, extension rush because rush is a threat. i mean, a ends up being this really weird logic. the same thing is happening with this administration with the american people. they are prodding more conservative people so intensely that they're demanding a reaction and it's a c, c, c. how see how aggressive these people are. you see what i mean? i mean, when, when they're there, they're projecting, i mean, they're actually doing what they say. everyone else is. go ahead or yes, yes, no question. and i think as a very good example, what you're saying is what's being done now to the january, the people are the punishment and the humiliation that is being inflicted on them are already see any kind of connection with crimes alleged crimes if they had committed is all about teaching, some people a lesson,
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you're like what we do see how you are treated. and you know, if i can take a page out of the demons book, i mean up and talks about the soviet experience. and it's always, well what the bible b is not on the light. well, the bolsheviks did so people, so in groups of people are elevated, you know, they're special. everybody else is just bowman and whatever, we don't do them, they deserve it. so, you know, with the boss, because the proletariat, so here, if you're black or person of color, asian american, then you know, you are, you are a victim, your sanctify, you do whatever you want. if you're a male again, you know, you forget it, you're out of here. so, so here we go again last week and the bite administration coming out with a strategy to deal with gender equality and equity and all about how you know, where women and girls are being persecuted discriminated against them. all. is this
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the show? man, all boys are falling behind you all in the, in jobs mail, suicide is on the rise. and yet, but i get to look and know about the, the only people that we should be concerned about is are the women or girls that's, that's 80. 0 yeah, you know, you came across, but there was a transgender person that lives as a, as a woman, but this person was elevated and they're saying this is a victory for, for women. but i don't understand that it seems to be a defeat for women in my opinion. anyway, i'm not as well as other people. it's quite obvious here. ok, demon. where does this go? because we were more and more. so when we gather together, we are invoking the bolshevik experience, okay. and there will be any with this, the little pepper oven. and then we mentioned more parallels. and now it seems to
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be a direct reflection here. go ahead. well, i would say it's more important than the theory, the general, because ultimately bernard is now is the 3rd for most of the day after not just borrow the features. is this constant threat, you know? oh, he said, we're going to die. if we don't expend our live and how you know it turned out to be alive because after the war driven your prospect on this, my small energy right? in the same way, all the plan is going to die. and the climate is going to change dramatically unless we immediately immediately despair, the $3500000.00, right. and in europe, what's going on in europe? you know, boyland hungry christian gates for, for not in the wine. and when the british prime minister made a speech and the european parliament a few days ago, presenting his arguments,
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they were all refuted by from germany who just said, what you say, what you said makes you happy. you know, i'm saying yeah, give us just what you said makes you happy. that means you should stop and spoken to me. so unfortunately, we're going down the road. there are threats, you know, was i just or climate change, whatever. you know, if you can just drop isn't enough, there are people who are demonized like goldstein in the oils, nor will put you in the, in the western media know what she g p, maybe tomorrow. right. so unfortunately, we have the same, same narratives repeated themselves and i don't know where it will lead us. i can only hope that it won't lead us to the same will last us that we, the bureau many g endure during the world war 2. and during the experiments, but it talks more and more,
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i get the fact that millions of people killed both 1st hundreds of thousands of people in iraq in the history and every piece of so 100 percent. that's right. and george, i mean, when you, when you have you disregard the humanity of the people you have that it only sets up the beginning of a cascading disaster for 20 seconds to george, finish it up or? yes, exactly, and i think just to continue with the analogy of the sabbath and the wreckers already the ground is being lazy. but if the, by the ministration gets absolutely call the in the next year, then the blame lies with always the old republican government governor's, the legislatures that have changed the rules to prevent cheating. no, they were denying the rights of the people to vote. and the cause of though is that he had interfered in the election road lead. okay gentlemen, that, but i want to thank my guess in budapest and here in moscow and what they are
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