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ah, hello in welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. there are growing indications that washington isn't finished with afghanistan just yet. military involvement has come to an end, but not engagement. also, we were told there is an energy crisis. maybe this is part of the great reset. ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, marcus papadopoulos in london. he's a historian, analyst and author of the book arise, receive the return of russia to world politics and implements. we have patrick huntington, he is the editor and founder of the 21st century wire dot com originally across top rules and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want and i would appreciate it. again, it's are out with market ever since the arctic withdrawal from a couple in the, in the western world,
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particularly in the washington foreign policy. so there's been a lot of discussion of what, what is next year. and actually what is actually happened is happening because on the one hand you have many saying, and this is the subtext is a reason to go back in is that the taliban are in meet with isis, and al qaeda and all of this. and then there's another narrative out there that visually it was very chaotic, but policy wise, there may be some kind of underlying attempt to engage the taliban is some kind of barrier and even possible ally in the region when it comes to american foreign policy. it's really mixed. there's a lot of emotion attached to this. ok, honey, you see. and because there's one thing that you can deny, a lot of military equipment was left behind during the afghan civil war, which raged 1996 to 2001. it approximately took the taliban that then
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one year so emerged triumphant in the country. and yet in 2021. despite the presence of the u. s. military in africa on to get away of the after an army which was trained and ultimately equipped by washington. it took the taliban a matter of weeks to conquer the whole of the country. now, any one we've just an ounce. all enlightenment about military affairs. we'll conclude that it will simply inconceivable for the taliban on their own. so conquered afghanistan, a country exceptionally large, exceptionally diverse. and with the american military presence. that is why pizza late in the taliban. victory in africa?
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stone. and on the day they entered, oh, i stood almost alone on television by saying that i believe the west america. and also britain arrived at an informal agreement with the taliban, where by the americans and the british would allow the taliban to emerge victorious . so long to ask on his dawn and in return the taliban would have to ensure about american america and britain retain that strategic influence in afghanistan. and what we have seen since, in fact, what we saw, we've been days of the color and entry into cabal was maintained between the taliban and the director of maintenance between the taliban and the head of britons from an intelligent service. yes, more commonly known in us m i 6. we have also seen the taliban guarantee in
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public the security of western pipelines in afghanistan. and we have also seen western mainstream major, both in america and in britain begin the process of conditioning, the american and british people to see in order to see in the taliban as a ally against isis. because the americans and the british mainstream major outlets are starting to tell their people that the taliban, another taliban from the 19 nineties and the to fail since they have reforms. they have even pledged to observe and respect human rights. so what i believe page says that the americans and the british are very much in afghanistan. they do not need an army of occupation to control afghanistan. they have simply, i write that an informal agreement with teller and,
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and they control key institutions in afghanistan, such as the civil service. and i believe that sooner rather than later, washington and london willis will formalize informal relations for the taliban. by reopening embassies in i just need to jump in in there because you could also make the argument in the, in what we just heard can be true. but it can also be true that the taliban are, are playing the field. of course you have they, they've met the russians, the russians met with them before, even though the taliban is designated by russia as a terrorist organization. and china has chimed in as well. so it looks like in the green game in this, it's the 21st century version of the here. because i would agree with marcus of the us wants to can maintain at least some form of influence there because it's the that hell and is reaching out to others. and we have to remind everyone part of the
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trump deal was that our groups like al qaeda and isis will had to be had to be under control. meaning they wouldn't be using afghanistan as a based for foreign endeavors here. so there's a lot of mixed commentary again, it because of the emotional shock for so many people that were so vested in the war and they're getting a good pedal that narrative. so i think things are in flux here. but when patrick reacted with marcus and to say it was very interesting. yeah. you could say or comment on what continue it, marcus, this point. i think you can go off to the segue. but it, when the early ninety's, when the taliban took power, it was, it was a lot of people in the west don't realize that a lot of people in afghanistan at that time saw them is the lesser of 2 evils. because all these warlords, northern alliance types that the u. s. had backed later post 911. they were
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responsible and known throughout afghanistan for committing grave atrocities. and so when they were, when the taliban came to power, even by the women of, of afghanistan were seen as a lesser of 2 evils. so it wasn't as black and white it because the afghan war is portrayed as a women's rights issue. in the west, i mean that was the sort of overriding narrative right through everything justified that the intervention and that's how it played out anyway, in terms of the liberal press and so forth with the reality is much more complicated. and the point marcus was making about the u. s. strategic interests. so the question is, what are those strategic interests? and yes, you have the tapi, the torque menaced an afghan pakistan india pipeline. that's definitely a western interest. why is that a western interest? because that's in direct competition with the c pack of chinese pakistan energy
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corridor, which is part of the belton road initiative. so these are competing supply lines. india is, is a big set piece in western geopolitical had your money terms. and so who can win india and also cut off china to derive china. i mean the u. s. it's known the u . s. are backing belushi militants and they're attacking some of these very areas including your, the got are part of what are in pakistan. you have the militants in my and more you have the stable in there. that's another route. china needs these overland routes to bypass any potential disruption in the south china sea august. and the sort of the things that we're looking at that could take place in the future in terms of disrupting shipping lanes and so forth. so china has a very diverse strategy. and one of the main step pieces also is shing john, western china. and there was a z, a isis,
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the emergence of isis k is. if you look back at the history of this so called terrorists group, ok that they just re branded entices k was the course and group in 2013 or no, sorry, 20142015. this was a term coined by the u. s. intelligence. when james clapper was in charge, this is an obama administration, in my opinion, and, and probably many others who looked at this closely. it's a kind of a construct the course and group, and it is a pedigree through it. i'm so sorry. i'll cut in the reading peninsula the underwear bomber. it runs right through this bit of classic and intelligence, clandestine and terrorist construction that the u. s. or they've just basically revived it and all the sudden suicide bomb attacks. and after the pull out in afghanistan. so what is the nicest fraction doing in afghanistan, but playing
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a disruptive role, you just had all the wiggers is escaping from prison, magically after the u. s. withdrew, you have all these other isis militants who were somehow simultaneously escaped from prison? i'm sure there they had assistance in that. so that's the major jihadi jailbreak that you saw right before the emergence of isis in july of 2014. so i see of this repeating pattern that's forming right now. and so the, like you said, the u. s. doesn't need to be in afghanistan, militarily, like marcus said, and they, there's other things that they can do to direct the affairs in the region. it sounds like mark, as it sounds like to me is that, you know, in western historical conference we go from this state to this day here at any given what we've already said here on our program, is it, this is just the continuation of the civil war just in a different direction with different people with different names because it sounds like what this is, what's going on right here. go ahead and yes,
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i also believe that history teaches us that the americans and the british only withdraw from a country or strategic value to them if they have been militarily defeated in that country. and the americans and the british will not militarily defeated in afghanistan. it is true, the americans and the british, whenever able to militarily, inflict at the fates on the pilot. but at the same time, the taliban, whenever able to defeat the americans and the british. marcus, also, another failure is that the us was never able to legitimize their proxy government in the eyes of the population. that was a very key thing. and i think fundamentally, that is the reason why they decided to be okay, because there was nothing you could do to legitimize that government was just corrupt to the core. keep going indeed. i mean we have a look at the casualties which the american british military's incurred spanish
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song but loss is. busy almost negligible. so that is why it comes back to my assertion which i have been putting out for some months now that the americans and the british had no reason to leave afghanistan. ask and his phone is of immense strategic value to buy washington and london as it was to the british empire in the 19th in the 19th century. so that is why i believe we will see through the time the americans and the british russian national security through central asia because of central asia is also to speak through the taliban, the americans and the british. we'll continue to try and stabilize shine, which is of course, a restless muslim province in china. and also
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a free to tell the americans in the british will be able to limit iran's influence in the region. a lot more to talk about when it comes up as an in the future going to a short break. and after that your break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our ah ah, i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such orders at conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence at the point, obviously is to great trust, rather than fear. with take on various job with artificial intelligence, real summoning with
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to max hazards, financial survival guide. looking forward to your benefit, go with this is what happens. dimensions in brittany del at this app. if you watch kaiser report ah, well, the magic cross doctor, all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real issues. ah ok, let's change gears here. patrick. the western world. busy world in general is experiencing a quote unquote energy crisis here. in many ways, for me, i certainly can see consumers are feeling a shortage high prices. there's no denying, but the cost of a well, that's
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a different issue altogether and i sum it up with this 2 ideas, ranking competence and ideology. i'll explain later. go head jump. yeah, so you know, it's funny how the press has reported this, this energy shock price shock and it's, it's seen as like some active nature. it's just some organic event that just happened. and we all have to deal with this surgeon, record search and wholesale energy prices. and the reality is that this isn't an organic act of god. this is a direct result of government policies, specific policy decisions made by the governments of europe made by great britain made by the united states and other g 7 countries included. ok. so there are there the willingness to go along with this green new deal, or ideologically mainly ideologically driven directors. and we saw the results of it last winter in germany when the wind turbines froze. when there was no solar
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power, when they couldn't meet there, they slowed demand. what did they do? they fired up the same thing in texas. yes, they fired up the coal plants. so now what do you see? you see a coals. ready coming back now they have to do this again. what's happened to the price of coal? it? what does that mean? they need to buy carbon credits or carbon offsets to the carbon markets or booming because of a restriction and supply to the energy market. so what's the result of this? a fossil fuels becoming expensive? this price has been passed on to consumers. ok, but a lot, but what's really cause this. this started during the enron revolution. the total deregulation and free floating of wholesale price is derivative, markets were introduced for energy spec. the speculation industry was basically opened up. and although enron collapsed and people were arrested and charges were brought, the system still remains. so it's, you can manipulate the energy market,
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then you add to this, the price of gas, because if russia was allowed to supply via the north stream to buy other pipeline project, it would help to stabilize the spot price. and so they're blue. now they're blaming russia. use including of weapon ising energy has this is some believable. so russia just wants to be a good partner to europe, provide constant cheap and stable, natural gas. and marcus, the amazing thing is, i mean, i've been following the russian energy markets for 2 years. i mean, a long, long time. and one thing that they've always stressed in gas from is always said, because that's the monopoly export of russia, is that they want long term contracts. they want to stay away from this speculation . and that's what it all is exactly what patrick was saying, my dear, this is a for some people, one person's crisis is a small group about the people's opportunity here. and again,
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the incompetence of it. ok, we, when we have the, the height of the lock down in the west. ok. consumption went down. and then you know, they, they in fill up the storage units. and then when they lock down, starting to come to an end, there was a surgeon in demand. and while they are doing that same like, should have been refilling the storage units, but they weren't. ok, i mean, just incompetent. i mean, i don't even work in that industry and i know that go ahead. mark lee in the u. k. energy prices rise year on year. not because of it, not because of a supposed energy crisis, but because energy, electricity and gas in britain is privatized. secondly, britain has relied to expensively on liquefied natural gas and firmly. the british government should have put politics aside. i should've emulated the agreement which germany rates with russia by which germany will receive
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a constant and uninterrupted flow of natural gas, which is crucial to the german industry and crucial to german domestic households. but peter, i want to share the story review patches and he was recently on the box on a journey from london to pembroke. that is a distance and i stopped at numerous places along the light. at no time did i see a food shortage? no time did i see an energy shortage. i took it upon myself to speak with employees . i petrol stations from london to pen, berkshire. and in supermarkets from london to pembroke. every single employee told me that is no food shortage. is no energy shortage, cause say, what has caused some problems regarding items of foods in supermarkets and almost an overnight the mom's on petrol and diesel was panic volume.
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we have seen pizza in britain is british mainstream major a few weeks ago, put out some cooperated story to say about britain was short of petro and diesel. and the british pico again without thinking the painter labor about forensic thinking. critically having this absolute faith in what mainstream major tells them, they went out, they didn't just fill up their cars, they filled up jerry cans. they filled up a plastic bin liners with petrol and diesel. and that was a very short term shortage. but there is no energy crisis site in the united kingdom. so that leads me on to discussing why is mainstream major legend that why british ministers legina,
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i believe part of the reason is to distract the british public from some very serious changes which are being imposed in british society. fraser fee, what is known as cove $19.00, and i believe it is also a novel way of justifying the increase in electricity and gas by saying it has been anything to do with privatization. it has everything to do with russia. so i believe there is more to this story of an energy crisis in britain than meets the eye. you know, patrick, also when it is, i think a dangerous for the average consumer is that in a way this narrative give me turned into see how see how incompetent carbon fuel is we really have to we have to make that final both. ok over, you know, to the green economy here, which of course for the people that are subscribed to that all,
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that might be all nice and fine. maybe they have solar panels already. but i mean, there's more time and effort putting in being put into 202420342044. what about this this, this, this winter? ok, these are incompetent. they think about unicorns all the time, and the rest of us pay the price for it. go ahead yet. so when there, when there is a spike in wholesale prices, it hurts the retail providers of energy. so it's, this is knocked out all of the smaller providers, the ones the government entice to get into the market for years. and so you're left with the big players. and if the big players can then go and complain to the government, ask for what a bailout. so i wouldn't be surprised if we see that. and so this is a consolidation of markets. this is what we've seen since the beginning of the coven. $1000.00 crisis, globally is really a re consolidation of finance. so power and the concentration of financial power
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into fewer and fewer hands. and so if you look at the great reset directive, the book ca, schwab's own book, want they want to reduce air travel. they want to make fossil fuels are no longer economically viable. they want to reduce consumption of beef and pork. now we have the pork price crisis in the u. k as well. they don't have enough added to our workers and butchers to kill all the pigs, so they need to slaughter the pigs. a cashless society. that's also an important feature. central bank, digital currencies block chain currencies. this is now being talked about by re she's soon act the chancellor checker and the bank of england more often now is so that this is seen as a fait accompli eliminating suburbia in life and moving people into more concentrated city dwellings and so forth. so, and stakeholder capitalism putting the values of stakeholders ahead of,
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of profit. so fundamentally transforming the what the free market economy or the crony capitalist economy, whichever way you want to describe it. so all of these take all these boxes, one by one. and so, and it's interesting how this overlaps this d, d and d fossil fuel is ation. dean is ation an energy intensive for you and sustainable development calls for 2030. this does overlap somewhat with geo politics because this also sees to keep russia out of the european market is funny that they're the u. s. and the britain are egging on you to, to keep sanctions on russia. they've been doing this for years and, and russia just became the number 2 oil and petroleum in puerto, into the united states. just in september. they just surpass mexico only by canada now. so, i mean, where, where is the outrage from the, from the democrats, from the, by the ministry where's the outreach? just the complete stupidity of their planning and having
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a lot of getting comes into play here. i mean, there are some, there are many things that people want on the left want to tinker with and you know, when it comes to energy and i don't want them tinkering within here. and i mean, i guess the markets me in the no crisis is being left wasted here. is it ok everything because i think we have the supply chain for the quote unquote energy prices and they're all coming. they all home or go ahead. i think it's a, that's a great transformation is occurring in the west, principally in america, canada, australia, written and you see that it's no coincidence, a country and i know none of it is good and as i say, it's no coincidence that they are, those are the anglo saxon countries of the world. we know that when something
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happens in britain or america, it's very, very quickly transformed to the rest of the world. and i believe that this transformation is very, very sinister. and in fact, i would go as far as to say, it's a very hideous transformation. the problem is that america and imprison the democratic republican, conservative and labor, all 2 sides of the same coin. they are policies, they act in their, in their own interest, not in the interest of the ordinary man and woman. and they are also important in that by then knowledge that the average person in america and in britain is more interested in what is happening on that television. and what is happening in, in their local communities, in their societies as a large and when you have distracted extent, when you have broken down that capacity to think for themselves. and you will run
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