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kevin will be here with a full and 1st look at your new stay with us. this is our contract. with hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered? i'm funeral about again, the nobel peace prize misses the mark. the most deserving are again passed over. also the use war against 2 of its members, states hungry in poland. ideological had gemini, is demanded, descent not allowed. ah. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest johnson, you elleon,
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budapest. he's a podcast to read the goggles can be found on youtube and locals, and here in moscow, we have to meet with bob, which is a political analyst and editor. it knows me internet media project or a gentleman, crosstown roles and back. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. it's got a g m a 1st year. we had the nobel apiece prize awarded and went to a filipino and russian journalist who is this russian journalist and why give it to a journalist and does he have anything to do with anti war? go head demon. well, is just amazing what crap under, because i know it was clear that the west wanted to provoke the ground and into being angry. you know, because mutual want rather is there you are in chief. oh and use paper which is called nowhere guys. yet that which is not simply critical or who tim, which is paranoid about, you know, ah, in that use paper, they publish stories out, you know, we've had this table use fortune in the june 99. when are these women were controlled?
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been changed? now grew up several apartment buildings in moscow. so no, it has yet. the claim they did was the russian secret services. who did it and surprisingly, you know, the gremlins reaction was civilized because i'm sure to say in russia is a blue, realistic country. the brilliant spokesmen, dmitri pasco said, we congratulate me 2 more. he has been consistently walking according to his ideals . he is bo and he is brave. of course, this is a high appreciate your walk. we congratulate. you know, i walked with meet him for 3 years and i know that he personally is an honest man. he truly believes in liberal ideas and the use of what your brains can, you supported. gorbachev, you know amazing that there will be 2 noble prize more as you know way. which is more like too much for me. don't tell us what is the readership, is it popular?
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is it with, with a certain nisha people i'm aware of it. i've known some of the journalists through the years, so we don't really off our circle. go ahead. well, this is a newspaper which is basically for paranoid people. you know, people always at the was, there are such people in every country in the united states, you call them conspiracy theorist in russia would have no work on them. but what was amazing was the reaction of the so called russian liberals. you know, they were extremely and have to go to the volley. actually the griffin was much more into football. we're out the, if you read the comments from the liberal opposition, it looks like it was a flip in the face for them and not for which no figure or rules on its reduced form. all of these price is going to be either the face for both. the problem is that these people even need bent the piano has been some kind of a dictator, greg stall on every use it,
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but the creature sizes to battle has been slept in the face. and here wouldn't just turned another cheek of the flap went by. and in this amazing what the, how, who them, how aggressive these are the liberals are there is a certain woodrum on them, a full much tv come and date. and by the way, cool, a, basically a role in your reaction. well, the nobel peace prize committee, or just the soiled expanse and didn't give it to pneumonia, it's good that it went from where it's bad. it didn't go to nevada. and then another liberal curious rogue of explained why. the problem is that not only made some political incorrect statements and the key rogue of rights in the modern west, you can be a nation is just once you can make a mistake once. well, what kind of toner and societies that if people are not allowed to have me stakes of you, you know, if everything you said 30 years ago can be used against your this is what silence
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lasonya union will like and all right. and the, the amazing thing is that basically, ah, the russian so called pro pagan justs actually congratulate that more out of to what him or so your was demonized in the west s who does not belong a fight against the liberals. he said this is good. what, yes, no, only deep make statements. let me paper. he stayed this week. so it's good that this price went to the idealist. liberal murat doesn't understand the life, but he didn't go to a fascist they. well, i don't, i don't have a problem with the, you know, who gets said ok, but george biking go to you. what does this have to do with peace and being against war? i mean i'm, i'm completely mystified. i mean, even for those people, those small number of people to think of only said get it for the peace prize. when does he have to do with peace? go ahead a there today, george. this home is obese,
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prizes just meaningless when it comes to its objective. italy to my can, you know, has i because the, the objective of the peace prize from the beginning had been to a war to this, to people who did something to promote peace, to promote community among nations, to promote peace conferences, peace negotiations, the signing of the street is or in the it originally it did go to such people. so, you know, we have teddy roosevelt. he received the nobel peace prize for bringing about the peace agreement between russian japan pal in the war. in 1005. we had their woodrow wilson because of his work, the was the league of nations and we had the architects of the look on a tree which brought about a brief that of time. people who would be more. busy long lasting, the brief reconciliation between france and germany after world war one. we had our
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kellogg long who created the famous calibree on treaty that when nations renounced war as a means of policy. so you know that there were clear examples of giving this a war to people who actually working for peace, but it's hard to see whether you know, whether it's not falling in a completely so all. busy right, so what they end up to piece because on the contrary, the reason they gave it to morocco was, well, booting wouldn't be happy and we want to stick a some in the i put in. and that's why he received it. and that's why the many people in the west sharing this all because a this is bad. 3 for russia, therefore, it must be great. but what does he go to do with piece? i mean what, what is no way to get it done for, to promote peace of those? he happens and the same thing goes with the rest of the journalist and in the
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philippines on a very unpopular with the liberal west of opinion. when again, it's a really, i gave him and she, she receives money from the u. s. government, which again love in the business of promoting peace and they give her money, not because they want her to promote peace. so it's just, again, this is the number of these places, just become this political tool, and we have not doing what it's supposed to be doing. you know, the demand is the reaction i'm seeing here. we're both in mosque out here is that, well, i mean, the western liberals like russian liberals, that's why they give it to the number gazette. ok. but that just confirms to the population here is that, is that these, these at least a piece price is biased. it's a political cudgel because the reaction years is basically okay. i mean, they choose their winners. ok, but it has nothing to do with their so called values. go ahead mean. well,
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the reaction among the population is certainly more negative than the reaction from the crap because we have to use lawrence in russia who are widely known. the 3rd one is an ecologist, but we have one of our children because we're up gorbachev you the minds of many people is associated with the collapse of the soviet union, which was a terrible misfortune for millions of people. but much of a was blame, simple novice and morocco who has were much of his motto, the shareholders in she's newspaper, of course it, cleats, him. but people remember, and people remember that more work as it always supported the islamist rebels in chechnya. not chance, you know, there are many honest, b sliding changes who, who are successful in russia. ah, we're just, you know, we have no problem with them. but we had problem with the people like must how the and the, the western press and no way because it kept saying that must hunter was some college peacemaker. but it all fits elijah context. i mean,
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the normal piece price could be to who this is a mixture of subservience and radicalism. who yes, the by says, i'll go for a slide show about global warming obama before he started all of his wars. so this is, you know, they talk about which in spouse it looks like it said, clinton, spouse and obama, spouse could get the door, will be surprised. l more you know, the brock of now and the, and the on the, on the site where there are change it is for this year. my good won't travel vocalization if there is an international organization with which many people have a problem, you know, in the united states, in europe, in rush, oh the, well, that is the world health organization. but these people that are treated liberals, you know, they don't care about public opinion. they want to award someone who fits their ideology and these, that person happens to be close to powers that be in the united states or in europe
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. so much the better that's there and if you and people on the standard, not wanting rush it. george, it's a, it's a real pity it's gotten down to this. okay. because i can think of a candidate. let me think real hard here. oh julian, a sorry, i think that would be a person that would be very deserving of this. and it would be the slap in the face would go somewhere else of the country that he's being held in the u. k. and the united states that are seeking in his expedition, you know, that would send a signal that the nobel peace prize has meaning because he expose war crimes. i don't think any of these other people that have been, you know, a given the laureate, have done in nearly as much positive of change than chilliness. aren't your thoughts? yes. he expose war crimes as well. he has had an enormous of public impact because people are able to witness to himself these war crimes. ah, therefore he's in the business of, you know, doing something to facilitate peace. so even in the no,
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no committee had not wanted to provoke the united states in the u. k. by giving it exclusively julian, the son of at least shed it out even just 3 of them, including the julian, the son didn't even do that. and here is this person who really has sacrificed his life. i mean, he has so much more than any of the people that they give these prizes. so they didn't, they didn't do. so it's an interesting consideration. why didn't they give it to holland? and i think that they probably were feeling that this is going to be an embarrassment, the biggest and many people would have had a few. they being of all sorts of any back embarrassing quotes from them. and indeed them in the novel committee has had these embarrassing moments in the past where they are all of this price to someone. and then 2 years later he suddenly the villain of the piece. we remember the e. c o, b, and leader. now,
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absolutely hate to revile, boston, you know, somebody that samantha power 20 warranty ethiopia, very same guy who was received the past 2 years ago. and then of course we had the, the leader of beyond mot now use of genocide and so on. so it, it's a kind of an embarrassment avoid more. i think i retired the, the price misses the mark you. all right gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. that's about short break will continue our discussion. some will say, oh, in l, look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot
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must obey the orders given by human beings except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to race trust rather than fear i would like to take on various job with artificial intelligence, real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with oh, when i was sure seemed wrong when i just don't know, i mean you have to say proud disdain becomes the advocate an engagement. it was betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds of
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warren, we choose to look so common ground with ah, welcome back to cross up. were all things considered? i'm peter labelle. this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah. okay, let's go back to budapest, george. and in the aftermath of briggs it, um, it seems brussel is a brussels, has found some new enemies within the ranks. ok. and those 2 countries are poland and hungary. you're in hungry right now. why he's hungry,
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being so demonized by the e. u and then i'll ask him of the same for poland. go ahead. well, the hungary and poland o both are explicitly subscribing to values very much at all with the values of the e. u. leadership. not the same of the people of the you. i mean, because people you met, you know, french many times why conservative people. but the values that are often daisha state are promoted by victor or by and the government in poland are definitely conservative. and also with the kind of about the cultural inclusivity open to transgender gay marriage and so on. values that the, you know, the bus or so on the lion, a claim to be our values. if somehow, you know, those people, every one. and so they now they target hungry on everything. so you know that on
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the education system a way you know, no later than the not prov promoting the kind of the gay rights agenda that they, that the hunger school should be promoting. and now in poem they got the so that those janica bowen wants to reform the judiciary and the you said, are you going like going against? you values again should be within the domestic, both of you. and so now we have the polish a constitutional call that says that the polish constitution trumps you law. and you have absolutely bizarre and anal threatening are obviously threatening to withhold all money to bowen. dollar explicitly threatening to expel colon from the you. interestingly enough, the polish a constitutional court ruling all at different from the german constitutional ruling, which also says that, you know, the german constitution trying to you law,
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but you don't pick a fight with germany. you do pick a fight with hunger. so a one size fits all. ok, their values from everyone else is values. ok, i guess that's the price with the take inventory into the you, they get it in the b, e u, they dangle money and other signing things in front of you and but the price is you have to leave your conservative values behind your history. your culture, your whole ideas about family, all that isn't worth it. go ahead. oh, well, i agree with everything george sands and the european press. i feel so much easier for you because if we believe the new york times see it all the time and the guardian, georgie's in the middle of a table dictatorship ruled by a cru. see it all by installer bern. i don't know how you still alive. can do us the same story with pool and, you know, payable, they have the areas free, all l,
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g, b, g, i, g o, g. well, what a terrible problem. you know, people have been killed by ukrainian government using blaine's and banks, you know, whole region of your grain, your grain does not go any food supplies there for 7 years. they cut off and they cut off the water. they don't allow people to speak russian to a salesman, you know, when they come to a shopping gear, which is a russian speaking cd that is all and put what is really table, is this l g p g? i, george, i go to free areas and point a money should be god for them. you know, that, that has already been done as far as i know from the british press. ah, but you know, so i agree with everything you just said. but here is an important situation. i mean at gene skag or one on karen and orders, nationalist, the hate to crash you the late eighties and early nights and that was fine with the you know, they said table earth thinks about it. that was fine. which is,
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it is very typical situation for our to liberals. you know, they, you are already gross, or the surface they are for understanding between people's own migration, mixed marriages as well. they fight large contest which other aliens, such as china and russia. now they look for minorities, they look for discontent, neighbors, and suddenly these out liberals ally themselves to albany. nancy's emma, these minorities, and these just contain a neighbors, you know, the and let me just remind you, they used gratian, fascist, again serves in yugoslavia. they used a ukrainian nationalist against a russian speaking po, population in ukraine. they use now we go muslim fontanello this against china. so that the problem with her orbit and kuchinski is that they didn't change and the front line moved east, so they're no longer needed. you know,
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this is now the ukrainian nationalist who can claim all absurd things in the you will forgive them everything. poland is now in that regard. you know, it's far away from the battle. so suddenly they use creaking down on nationalist the been support against russia in the ninety's and the early in the late eighty's and, and purchase. it just doesn't understand it. okay. or when a smart, you understood that bird is, is going to be against you. that chance he pretends to be, you know, innocent. oh, europe that we wanted to join is not europe that way that we have no, we wanted to join a reach, go a community of christian nations. we joined a bunch of crazy alternate. ringback ros. yes, you need. yes. yes. well sure. will george seek? this is, this is what terrifies brussels be that there are people within the european union far, far more than brussels is willing to admit that actually can have conservative values
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and don't have the values of this unelected bureaucracy than rules over the you. ok, and what they're terrified of is it, oh my goodness. oh, and hungry they might start resembling russia. oh, the horror of it. after all the money and decades of work in it, we're not getting what we what we demanded. ok. i mean, they're angry about it that way, you know, because you can only go one way in history. there's only one direction. one arc of history did the, this is what they truly believe. and that's why, for me, it's pathetic. is it going to take the money away from you? that's what it's all about. that's all you're transactional. ok? you're just transactional. you're really not. you're really not about value at all . go ahead. i exaggerate. and it's very funny what the, the, we're just going to down because we will remember back in the late 19 seventy's and early. busy $1008.00 is when there was a catholic, poke a,
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who visited poland and all spelled out on an east and west. i'm amazed. oh, isn't this wonderful? the polls their own catholics and this, you know, they all hail is great man. like leading them in the anti communist direction and now so that they find g, the bowls a capitalist, you know, what do you know? we don't know that they have strong use of our portion. they have strong use about gay marriage and strong use about family. we, we don't like that, you know, forget all, well, that was all very useful back then. but now i out also with what, you know, the, the, so b, e, you, your leadership believes are european values. but of course, you know, these aren't the european bellies, he's got the self appointed the lead that the proposed to be,
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but you're being very, but here you have the problem. the pawn has been to the hungry doesn't have, which is a bond, doesn't have that many options on real as a long time ago that they can't really rely on the way you. otherwise, they're always going to be bullied and go and have the fonts cut off. so on the rate is looking around in the world and says, hey, we have a business partner in russia. we can, we can have a natural gas provided to us by russia, where business, wagner, china, so, you know, the, you can often often threaten us, but they can't do much for us because, you know, there's a wider world outside and where we can get rich. poland hasn't done that, a home owners has cultivated bad relations with russia, so it doesn't quite have the leverage that hungry. and it's interesting to, you know, you know, european bound values come from people ok doesn't come from organizations and it doesn't come from your receipts here. and i am very glad that poland is standing up,
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but it's fair because these people are merciless. this ideology is merciless in one size fits all, it's our way or the highway. so what's next for poland and probably what's next for 100. what's next is more sanctions. what's next is more pressure, but you will be pointing the civic platform that you'll loyal party involvement, which has more several actions on the you will be supporting them for the next election. they will try to get the jokes as the president of poland, probably if they try to oust dude or they failed, they will try again. and of course, there will be conspiracy theorist about connections, connections between or been and more school and what is even more terrible given kuchinski small school, which is just a mad, you know, but, you know, just recently after this, even we had 5 years of brushy gate i'm ready,
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i'm ready for us as the freshest and the most absurd conspiracy theory is now that need to more out of what is a normal piece brycer. you know, now you can read in that on the liberal science, you're in russia that he's a deeply seated, wouldn't agent. so putting has been in contact with, he'll seen sir the year 2000, all of which is on to us. more suspect of roger's at this b or a boy in our partner books. so they call it booting. scanned food, you know, some deeply can or a secret agents. so the say where i want to hear about kuchinski, that the problem is that this very radical extremist, i know, and she requires bad people. and that it's not ashamed of playing on the worst feelings inside humans. you know, a inclination to conspiracy theories is, is a very, very, you know, it's human, you know, people have that inclination and, and the 3rd day and i just always use it in all way cheaper use the biggest jews
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start in use that against the reach. now they're using against their political opponents. every thing that can find that is bad in human nature, you know, suspicion of the government. no suspect in every reach person over over being dishonest and being dangerous to society. put in labels your home a full, your race is you know, recording what people said in private and then a broadcast anywhere your chair you know, towards last in seconds or all these people have is just labels for people and smears. 15 seconds later labels. but of course, they said a very bad example for everyone else because suddenly, you know, there's an election coming up in france is electric coming up in italy and they kind of look to buy and hungry. say, hey, this is a really bad. we don't want also the one to lie and telling us what our values are supposed to be. so that's why i want to dispose of bullet need and this program or
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