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those are your headlines for this. our mourners will be coming your way in just under an hour's time. this is our international provide you are with ah, ah, ah ah, ah hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered a funeral about the communist party in china celebrated it's 100 anniversary last week. it made it clear will no longer tolerate being lectured by the west. is this a new red line also in the aftermath of the, by the summit? is it fair to say the washington? inter agency consensus is winning again the
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to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. jordan sent me willie and buddha. pet fees are podcasts, the gaggle which can be found on youtube rumble and locals. and here in moscow were joined by 3 bob. she's a political analyst and editor in us, me internet media project, or a gentleman cross up rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to d. m a 1st here in, in moscow it was a lot of media coverage about diem, of the 100 enter birth 3, the birthday party of the communist party of china. and it was a mixed bag. what would one would expect? but what, what struck me very much about it for a communist party, it was not remarkably, an ideological in many ways. of course, there was lip service being paid to mark's leninism. but it was really much about the the physical real achievements of an organization known as the communist party
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of china. and it wasn't necessarily because of socialism. it is because of the party. what were your thoughts? well, i share your impression and i would say that it was very important that the stress was on respect to history. i mean, at the moment when in canada, they just troy's the morning and for green victoria, because of something that happened after she left the office because of these terrible deaths of that nature of population to each other was when the story personally had no relation whatsoever in the epa when we can you know, excess s o b l movement in the united states. china is stress in respect to history and not only the communist period, no history, but also the preceded. this is very important and that makes china a much less ideological state than i'm sorry, the united states and the european union member countries in their present
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condition. and the one thing about the 30 day and is, is this destruction or history child? yes, your history a when you know your view characters from the 19th or even the 18th century and by today's ice. and in that sense, china now is a much less ideal what state than most of the west georgia. wait, wait on that, because president she, when he was giving his speech on denman square, the symbolism was really quite obvious. he was what he appeared very much like, wow, i mean, in the car right there. but again, you know that there's that contrast. mean you've been, you have the symbolism, but the me of the cup of the, the words the and the ideas that he was trying to express was achievement. okay. and of course, obviously this was
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a cheer leading for the communist party with the inspect no less. but nonetheless, it was more about the ban cod rays of the party than the caliber of their people. and the chinese features keep popping up. i mean, this is one of the things that you and i've talked about before socialism but chinese features. but i guess my impression is it's a lot more chinese features, but it is those 2 of them, which of course i think it's misunderstood in the west. go ahead, george. well, that's a very interesting issue because there was a, a stark contrast between the rhetoric, which was a celebration of the talking, the party, the party about the parts of his speech. read like something that you were to read, you know, in the soviet union, in the $900.00 off the guiding force of the region relation of the nation is the responsibility of the party. you know, they cannot be any china without the but as you say, the media logical concept seems to be very nebulous,
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but they talk about socialism. but they never, there's no attempt to define what they mean by social socialism with chinese characteristics. there's also a very little by way of self criticism. and again, that's different from the soviet experience because yeah, i mean, china is a great deal over the last. yes. what about before we have the great leap forward because we have china mile cultural revolution and only calamity. it's very interesting what they've done. i mean, the soviet they kind of been told that a fall and they demonized solid but they kind of wanted to retain many of the beaches, the fall in the creative. they got themselves into trouble doing that shopping in the fall and it was very difficult. the chinese never really like the soviet bid with style. and i mean i was because of the beginning of the rift between the 2.
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but the variance is, i mean here the chinese, somebody, if you say you look right now, they celebrate mildly, these other great heroes. busy wow, you know, lose shout g, you know, things about joe and lie. so they want to retain, but continue is a little, they're complete your robust policies of mile and the founders of the revenue in when they were talking about them and their move towards capitalists. i think it was sho, pain. it doesn't. it doesn't matter what the color of the, the cat is, as long as it catches mice. ok. and i think that that stands today, a demon. also, a very important was this and looking at it, you know, we've been watching china's rise for our entire lifetime here. and i remember, you know, you would hear words from the chinese foreign ministry that china is concerned about something when you and i. and george may throw around the word concern,
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going to rather cavalier way. but when the chinese that they were sir. but something it means they were really upset about something and worried that is completely out of the window. now that is gone. i mean, the speech that she gave was bomb bass dick. i mean, something that's what surprised me more than anything else, not any policy preferences or direction, just the rhetoric itself that was very much out of tune with what we traditionally gotten used to coming out of the chinese leadership. your thoughts? well, it's not only china, it's asia in general. i mean, the traditional west view that asia is the place for which the whole barrier should all be in that they can europe, look at the rhetoric, the sockets, of your collective security. you treat organization, you know, look at their rhetoric, assignments, or shot high cooperation organization. there is never something that you would hear
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an old in the summits. you know, that face country is a trap. you know, russia is a threat. china is a threat. you know, they are creating systemic challenges for our situation. you know that it's always very peaceful like the 1st thing that's yes, your member say when the writer is, is organization is not directed against any other country. and that's the major change. that's the last. when you're 30 years and then january understand the sum of all of us may, may don't. well, they said that the western congress, i know a lot more. i do apologize that china lake and i can confirm it by a very simple example. one of the features over in georgia is ation is, what did you say of sports channels, or is, is a political to right for that that, that inter in countries. so just, you know, an article problem that really grew up by someone named con coughlin and bought a ukraine, making it to the finals for a current you,
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ukraine was very existence is all the cost threat from its powerful ration need your greatest qualification for the quote the final, so euro 2020 if is a victory for democracy, it demonstrates how the sport and pro is going to be a po for. and you don't to, to really go behavior and vote. but i mean, out of the bridge for under started, you know, if the service you blown the championship starting to say something like this shows you know, then their, their advantages of what to say about another country. and now they keep qualifying for the quote, the finals. it's just too much for starting a brand new, but also for mile. no one of them ever ever descended to such to be was did. but it's, it's george, it's kind of an interesting story that i hadn't thought about bringing sports into it. but nonetheless, but here we are a but you know and looking is that she speech,
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it was much more the achievement of the chinese people as much as it is china, the chinese communist party. because it seems to me, you know, we don't use it in your everyday pounds. but you know, the way i went by the communist party is kind of the veneer of hum civilization. and i think this is very much how the chinese look at it. ok. because there is civilizational force, and we have to remind our viewers that they look at it as returning to their proper place in the world. see in the west. they don't see it that way because there's the west is that he gemini, for the last 500 years, that is being tested right now. even challenge, go ahead. yes, yes, that's a very good point. but i think that g is facing a problem and i think you realize of the problem in 50 years for china to emerge from the sort of terrible state it was. then when nixon visited it in 1972 very
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impoverished backlit play. suddenly, the number 2 economy in the good, well overtake the united states in the very near future. now, if you look through the world, you get to reach g realizes that the united states isn't going to just accept that lying down. i mean that's why that is a definitely a challenge for. busy jane, and you can see that there is a certain anxiety in his speech that you know, we are being threatened by the west and that's a serious issue because, you know, the united states as enjoyed this standing since 945, the number one power in the world mobile and military power in the morning cannot make found number one financial about it dominates all the global institutions. all that is being challenged by china in the way that the soviet union in the cold war ever able to. and it could. we have,
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this is what we talk about. it could be that the united states will just simply be overtaken by all the seas and black lives matter and just simply fade away. all the united states will, you know, some go in and die and military zation mode and try to deal with china. we don't know, but it's, it's just a, it's a serious challenge now, is an interesting point. and i thought the also actually be kind of the chinese were kind of signaling where they thought was fair game. ok, you can make the rivalry and competition buying ok. even military, you know, you know, where we're going to draw our red lines because you, we always have your read why we have them to buy things like human rights and things like that. they're saying no, that is no point of discussion whatsoever. i mean, he didn't do it, but i'm very, i will be expect very soon. she will be quoting secretary said link at his remarks
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in anchorage here, but it seemed like a very much delineation. it's like game ok, go ahead and george finish that for. yeah, that's right, and i think the game on is but precisely in the areas that are important to china, which taiwan, hong kong james and there the united states is challenging it. i mean that's all part of. busy the propaganda, culture, informational and military war that the united states is wage again, china, and therefore it is going to be a serious issue. what exactly does the states envisaged a ribbon on the part of the problem. we're going to take a short break break. we'll continue one session on real estate. okay. join me every thursday on the alex simon show, and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport, business and show business. i'll see you then in
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hi matt, kaiser or more of my guys do financial survival. this is a hedge fund. it's a device used by professional county wags to earn money. that's right. these hedge funds are completely not accountable. and we're just adding more more to them. totally, the stabilize the global economy. you need to protect yourself and get inform. watch guys, we're welcome to cross out there. all things considered. peter, this is the home edition demand you were discussing. some real news. ah. okay, just go back to him here in moscow, you know, over the last 6 months of the bio administration,
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it's really quite remarkable in many ways is that we were buying was presented to us as the anti trump. but as time passes, it's quite remarkable. the continuity and the contrast, particularly when it comes to foreign policy. donald trump famously said, well, be good to get along with russia. remember that and, and now you have biden, you know, he's basically saying the same thing without using the same words. ok. and then we'll put that marker aside for a 2nd. and now the do, i was going to say you back, you ation. but the departure from afghanistan and the same kind of push back. so the anti trump is feeling the same thing is what trump did. and of course, what i'm getting at is the inter agency consensus. the people want to be a, maintain their positions of power and call the shots here. so remarkably be, anti trump is experiencing very much what the real trunk did go explained some
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stuff go ahead even when you are they, it's interesting that they ministration of by them just includes the representatives of all their own business. you know, that we're behind the american foreign policy as the in the last 25 years. you have that, you know, the bible or be, you know, their id company is represented. you'll have the old abolish people who have the military industrial complex. they're all there. and the remarkably, i mean, a lot of people expected by them to be less forced to china. and suddenly it was by and, and, you know, forced the european nato allies to put their signature on. there is a notion of the last name was summit, which basically reclaims china threat drunk had no way of doing that. you know, you wouldn't be opposed by america by all of us personally, demonized by barton,
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made it the same story with that. i'm it with you and i mean, now a lot of people in russia suspected by the actually doing who can by that stupid phrase about the killer. because otherwise, you know that the one bits would not allow him to go to geneva to show it just shows how much biden is the hostage. why your, what would you, you know, bottle of support and shed visors later on in the night. just criticized and brand new for entering the dentist and said that now and you through each was a hostage try and your which you know, he had to go there because you had to save his communist threats. well, the same story with by them he, i think deep and he saw he's a centers, he's a brain, but he has to play by the rules over over ingredients, the radical ideology. so she can't, she just count, condemned the action on the bridges destroy, which out of nothing, you know,
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create that very death situation. you know the black. ok, let me let me get it to george. take care. i like what i'm going to kinda re, jake, what demon just had to think is like, i really liked it a lot. i don't, i don't, you know, joe biden is not an idea log. okay. he may be locked in. the secretary, not, not very bright on top of it, but he is hosted use a hostage to idea logs around him. okay. because if you know anything about him, i mean, he's basically, if you take away black lives matter and keep it all, if he's basically a liberal republican and he served that way all in the senate for half a century here. but that is my money. my point is yours, you can be someone like trump that had certain basic instincts and inclinations that were very rarely formulated clearly. and then you have joe joe biden, which is basically he's, he's basically going to pantry. whoever has the, the power, because he saw what they did to trump. he doesn't want that to happen to him. ok.
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but nonetheless, it means he gives up his agenda. go ahead and george. yeah, it's a very interesting. there is, there is no question. there is an intelligence military national security are up that is absolutely determined to sabotage any attempt. 1 to forge a rep russian with russia, i mean, they did it in the case of trump. whenever trump made any moves in that direction, they came down very hard on trump and they were already dumb distance. geneva, we had this report the other day for f. b i g, c, h q and the n s a claiming russia is engaging in massive cyber bullying all over the world. even today we have another report in bloomberg about, you know, russia engaging in ransom where attacks and corporations. this is going to be a daily drum be now by the, you know, it's hard to know what exactly is going on. and you said, i think that when he blurted out during the space,
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press conference about where russia is in a very tight spot with china that it's intimidated by china. i think that disclose, he's thinking that he's got to make sense for us to be russia because chinese, the big the, big the from, through incidentally. so that's a form of kind of projection that rushes heights. i think it would thing where i and we and this is, it's all self inflicted. we get into our selves. ok. and you and i have been talking about this for years and years and years and now it's, it's right in their face. realize what have we done, and as you pointed out, the report after part keeps the drum be going. it's like, you know, there's only one here. okay. um they can't really change gears and they can't
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change the their destination. i mean there's, there's stuff because of brushy gay because of trump and, and because of the media hysteria in respect to what the buying really wants to do, it's all pre determined and that's pretty pathetic. go ahead. well, yes, it's re determined and their desires have very all this, like to me, crushing trying to quarrel? well, i mean, nixon and kissinger would use some, you know, if you would provocations they would, they invent some stories. here is just so blunt like bars and says, i told butcher the china was a threat. you know, well, i mean, who is going to believe it? so they're watching in less and less elegant ways. i mean the story with the, again, with the big destroyer, whole believe that, you know, somehow the papers about this operation just ended up at the bus stop, you know, garbage can, can you imagine gordon johnson just coming to the bus stop a, in the middle of the night and just duncan is all there so that journalist would
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find it. so they're working, they know madigan ways and that's a bad sign. it shows that basically, we're dealing with a very responsible bureaucratic machine where people are just afraid of saying something positive about russia. but if you don't say anything positive that you're going to be very unprofessional, you know, blinking laughter in china on their, on the merits. so democracy in anchorage or a body johnson sandwich, i just don't know how the secret papers ended up at the bus. you know, these are very, you know, this is not the way the west used to operate and ready to get a good point in george. no, this is one of mine. i'll be just the we incompetent. i mean, but about the ball position right now because they would otherwise to me, they're simply incompetent. enjoy. yeah, i mean, really goes back to this question. they can't make up their mind. who is the enemy,
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who is the united states, supposed to be direct its energies again? is it russia or china? so trump was say, was china. but basically the, the national security oper. i wasn't going to go along with it by the seems to be also thinking, well, we've got to think about china and the people he has some of the economics people who are working for him. also thing a chinese economic giant that we have to deal with that. but you have all of the blink kins and the middling bureaucracy that is still absolutely fixated on russia and clearly the europeans at bar is johnson and use the barrel and everybody else. all still in this mindset is the enemy. but it's really interesting, georgia for 5 years. this is their red ticket. and so we are there, you know, there's a new president and, and he wants to change why everything was going so well for careers were
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made. okay. you know, advancements, you know, cable news, the gigs and all of that. i mean they, they in an institutional way, i'm going to think collectively, really dishonest, but it's additionally this has been great me trade for them and why should change ok, go ahead. well, i think that the india, they don't want to change anything. there is the inertia, and that's really dangerous because it's a bad inertia. i mean, and sorry, i mean, i'm not going to court here what mike on pale and one of the american sectors of state recent decided that will be that, that would be see in the, you know, some control in boys in the west would say all your sprague, hatred, it was that was pure hate that you know what michael said about the china was buick agent. but if we go to parallels with terry and isn't just reminds me of how not to join them any, make up its mind who is going to attack 1st, western plutocrats,
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or their jewish bolsheviks in russia. you know, and nazi germany have the balls and the, and they only had to listen to hitler because he was the argument authority would just decided in the same way. now you read the newspapers, you read the magazines like foreign policy, foreign affairs. and there are big, weak saying own chinese, the main enemy, somebody like mcfall says no, no, no, no, china, russia. is there anything? and none of them can imagine a world where there are no any, was there a whole promises 3 diplomacy? they just can't imagine this won't be ready inside the war. these people george, it's such a brilliant point because we must have an answer me because we have to spend money on the military. you know, we have to keep this thing going. ok, it's very interesting is a top prosy versus democracy thing. it's not working. but you know,
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what it's doing is making countries choose their choosing a non ideological model or have a progressive, a neal liberal model, you know, and a lot of parts of people that we do. we like to watch that stuff on netflix, but we don't want it here. okay, go ahead. actually that whole idea of the, by the ministration we get ahold of democracy summit. all of that is going to do unite all kinds of forces around russia and china, even forces that are within the western side. because you can imagine people like, or hunger is, or by the hungry of victor or bi weekly, kind of, you know, more in the russia, china, you know, i don't really like what the democracy summit is all about. and there are other forces within the west itself. but don't like this. so once you start making this going to be a logical struggle, you're just alienating warren, we, you know why? because it would be about when it be about maintaining a gemini, what it would be,
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as you know, it has never been about mark received. you know, this is, this is just the veneer. they hide our gentlemen. but all the time we have want to make my get them budapest and here in my going to think our viewers are watching us here. are you seeing next time? remember the the ah, to don't to leave your notion over 20 new. he said, when she gets home ready to love me to see if she will
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