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palestine is changed forever. we talked to the 1st woman, told the seat in the highest executive body and palace and of dan on a shroud. we. and as for my local coca cola, boesky lamb, a lasso is inaugurated. as equity was new president, how us interests projected in jo biden's backyard as he deport hundreds of thousands across the mexico border. it's the history of us back death, squads, regime change and mass killing all with the complicity of written in the nations of europe, ian union. we speak to professor the chomsky about secret allies more coming up in today's going under government versus the death toll of women and children in gaz amounts up to many multiples of israelis and join now from ramallah in the west bank by the 1st woman to hold a seat in the highest executive body in valentine. dr. finance, shall we? thank you so much for coming back on the show before we get on to, i mean, sees fire or no sci fi, this is been a watershed summer thing. what are you hearing about the scale of suffering in the past few weeks from these? well, british american and you nation weapons launched
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a israel. absolutely. when you have hundreds of innocent civilians can have 100 women and children, family children actually have all homes demolished. again, you'll have 14000 as you then shouldn't apartments are really being destroyed. you have the infrastructure, the roads, the water system, even to the point of getting to the electricity and song you have many clinics starts. so it's like destroying the economics as that, as benson and the human dimensions of guys, guys i know, let alone talking about westbank and through some of which have scores have thousands injured. so that is an insurance and targeting that has been an adult to ride the use of a cruel violence. and of course the innocent civilians are saying that price and
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this is not the 1st time this is really the true high rate. sure, of a cruel and accountable occupation that uses all of these weapons state of the art with them, so to speak, in order to target and destroy either it captives, civilian population or a civilian population and that kind of thing. and they all claim that there's just some difference, they spin and just show misleading. as the aerial bombardment continued in the past few days, what do you think? went through joe biden's mind, appearing not to call explicitly for a sci fi and appearing to block the un security council resolution back to my old members of the un security council proposed by the rotating president. china has the mind,
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the bench back to the 3 ramp and to the usual problem that we heard from american administration. as ministration is alive as all day like between us. and this isn't security is sacrosanct even. so this is the old language now, and they, us, that is a new language and i think the mainstream, older generation of them are, you know, that doesn't have understood that. we then public opinion that is a change and we can talk about that direction. if you want that, the feeble, not willing to stand up to and to call things. my name is my thing of being a bit nice to him because of course he announced the selling of more weapons and bunker buster weapons like the ones we saw deployed in guys or in the past few days
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. while pictures of dead children were emerging on social media, because as there's a tendency those occurring pattern that vanished in years of invisible or they are silenced, or they, i'd be humanized. and therefore it's conscious and then has to act with impunity claiming self protection. and when it's victims, as dr. new moved from the equations, and this is something that has become a habit among the mainstream administration, members, presidents or otherwise in the us. now, that's a challenge. i just have the international community is asking questions. i'm not saying that they are own, you know, demanding that the us undertaking responsibilities and stuff being completed because they come to list it and this hernandez on innocent lives,
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i'm home 7 and so on and palestine. my sons lead to the 4 times and nothing a statement from the security cancer, not as a loose and just a statement from the security council delayed meeting from the security council saying that we are engaged and silent diplomacy diplomacy. i mean that they sent us that level civil servant. they've done dr. how much anyway, and they think that this is the go missy. you have to address the issue is you have to have this cause, is that the, the one times and the against humanity that are being committed against denies all of that. and it appears that the secret evidence that the united states gets is not permitted to come to the media or to the public. what. what do you, how do you rate tony blinking biden's,
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secretary of state. you said he hadn't seen the evidence that there was a need to destroy the associated press enough to 0 in, in gaza. but now intelligent sources have briefed him. no, actually, that is no evidence. how can he see it? that leaves them by saying them as israel thinks that that is an office for us in that building. and so they have to destroy a building that houses actually, officers, doctors, lawyers, and all of their media stations. they totally demolish and destroy this whole building because they just that that is an office for how much. and that's even though that is no proof and actually how much money opens everywhere because it's not military. all of it has, has, has information offices has healed and this is, has always, has all sorts of things all over the place. you cannot go down bombing and shunning,
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huge eyes buildings because you're thing that may have had that office as, as good them been even services, so they go up there and the nice things i have anyway, but this is, this is dr. newish has been exposed. this is kind of up again, this kind of spend, i don't think she's lying on the idea. oh yes. you stock no, no long. i mean, i'm shocked too. and they're not lying. frankly, when they're not manufacturing an alternative reality to blame the victim and play that victims is cortez dead if the united states and britain, which also firm the right of self defense of israel, is the quartet dead people that are involved in the quarter. and going to it has been that for a long time. and actually the whole issue of defense is not the only one to the story. reality is not only to justify bias,
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one time to kill more palestinians and destroy him on homes. but this is also to prevent a smoke screen and on the to she is an investigation embankment by the international criminal court. because it's constantly because this massive destruction and then says we are in the state of events or we are in compliance with international law. both of which of course blades implies and yet the saying this to prepare the case because i'm sure that these crimes against humanity and these war times will be investigated. and they have to be you know, you use this many times as thousands and thousands of palestinians having killed over the years. i learned how much officials it was who were also killed in the reason. fighting with what is, where is my mood of us and do you think the palestinian authority will now understand that
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a one state solution is what the palestinian people realize is the future the 2 state solution is dead. i think the 2 states that more about boss who has really a guest is not with international community with international law and negotiate you know, work and show how be nice. some compet did we are. that agenda has been destroyed by incident, by israel actions because it does not comply with any of its obligation well destroyed by the surely was destroyed by fata and the palestinian authority as well . who kept seeking the 2 state solution, whilst all the settlements were making that that's exactly the point that is that it can just say we had in the middle of the dogs or we negotiated mod whatever . and at the same time, continue to see more learn more resources, build more settlements,
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which are going to would be their own stature and continuous to manage. i'm getting out a company has an ethnic cleansing plan and jitters and amanda. around attacking a lot of changing the elegy on the grounds. all these things thinking that it's ok we will negotiate now or later is not the case. that's why the undermine the county bond and that the o negotiation strategy has certainly been undermined and has certainly lost i think kind of credibility by the public. and that's why as a whole was back including the us, including us and so on. and once they started the 2 state solution and acted with impunity outside their law, committed to them to spectrum. well, faster luck you enabled, allowed to enter this guy. that does show what is left. i don't think one state
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solution has become an agenda, but it does the outcome when you blow that divide green line. what is that it has succeeded to do now is to unite all palestinians everywhere, frankly. because this relentless assault, this honesty of discrimination, i guess punished indians and they are not as they say, because they want to eradicate the identity of palestine against the palestinians. and the west bank, including jerusalem and gaz in $48.00 village done, which became as an exile indefinitely. a g comes along with that if you people coming out in force that you just finally on, on that force. because i have to was one thing about how obviously the narrative here is the, the old recent war began with mass rockets. it was, it began with the ledge ethnic cleansing and shake gerad. but also that,
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that came just off of the human rights watch reports about apartheid. comparing israel to apologize, nelson mandela was unequivocally explicit about the about how white south africans civilians could be targets in militant struggle. do you believe that no n a n c style struggle is the cards against israel? i think you are beginning to see the bottom. so i was saying we are not going to be the victims. we are not going to continue to accept this kind of artistic violence exercise against this. i'm not lifting finger. and because if you try to defend yourself, even though i'm national law, allows you to defend yourself using all means including you are to immediately label that. this is what they being on labeling every monday. and guys as how much i know, of course, how much my american standard organization that what it's
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legitimate to get all of that and gave anybody is implicated retirement and you see that that logic isn't moderate, lack of lots of so and then i think that that is a new dynamic. now that is a dynamic that says you cannot continue putting pressure on the palestinians using blackmail understood at shaw and then asking us to accept this state of them just the smell. now things are changing the saying, we will, we will not be better than things that can and should be done. we are challenging with international community. we are not, we are not committing in our collective suicide amnesia. we are not going to set it up to the international community to maintain its so called rooms based system and to develop some backbone and to extend up to and to provide understand which
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direction talk. and i'll stop you that more from before me, a member of the past in the, in the bridge and organization executive committee after this break. and why would joe biden secret coo and mexico, his alleged by president am low, we speak? you know, am chomsky his daughter, professor of eva chomsky about what the class called washington bullets. all this more coming out to have going on the ground the the communist party of china celebrated it's 100 anniversary last week. it made it clear it will no longer tolerate being lectured by the way. is this the new red line also? is it fair to say the washington inter agency is winning again? when i would show the wrong, why don't i just don't rule out the thing
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because the after an engagement equals the trail went to many find themselves. well, the part we choose to look for common ground in the welcome back. i'm still with the 1st woman to hold a seat in the highest executive body enveloped, and dr. shrier, we should just as will all the damage be repaired from these british american in the nation bombs. unfortunately, they will give it more bombs and they will also time to compensate for what you need. i guess it's understanding that it better take a long time. there was several shots on guys not less than 2014 thousands of people and they were honest hauling. so who is going to be and the building has not even been finished, so now they are going to have to renovate and sean on top of the previous
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section, one layer after the other. in addition, of course, we send infrastructure right there needs including medical needs sensors. and so i think ultimately as people will rebuild but the issue is not to keep this doesn't allow us to give this drawing. and then as the palestinian says, how do stuff is going, how do you, how to, how do you make your combination agreements with link them to israeli behavior, israeli human relations? and as i use these, the e u has all sorts of stipulations i'm conditions then up there agreements including that agreements with is that they have never implemented that on legislation will be holding accountable the same thing with the us and the country. the us even
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gives them more and neighbors more so i don't want to say lots of good, but it's betty we're listing equation has to stop because you cannot keep supplying the aggressor with reference. and you cannot keep saying like you're going to have to do, but how do you rebuild the lodge of families whose members have been restored? how do they build the lives of children? well, i've seen that better. i'm siblings. good hard family is holly timing. these have been obliterated, 90 families where they can of the population registered and 2014. anything in this the israel is de facto weaponized corona virus. israel does say that it had to, you know, keep its own population 1st, but that all this bombing, the impact on sewage infrastructure, water may contribute to corona virus. marion centers,
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there was several clinics, several things that do it. and, and at that time, due to the bombing, and of course they can to doctors including the doctor who is in charge of that going by this campaign to pay up to growing up. i did not. i mean as excess vaccine, but the fuse do give any or any room to particularly and gather the doctors what the clinics one could own about testing clinic was also the story completely. and then when, when you have a 110000 people, at least this place, where are they going? they're going to school is under a school and you have 3 or 4 or 5 families, rapid people in one room. and you don't know, you don't have to tell them you don't know what's happening. they have no bacteria and you have no protection. they have no medical services whatsoever. now. and then
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you have the others around $50000.00 went to under our schools, but others went to relative spends and so on. so you have congestion among those buildings and homes that remain standing because the people who are the people who are taking their audio protect all these people from about it is to become of them out. you cannot even keep track of how many people are confessed contacting the disease and how many i bang this has become just minor and basing on that, that's under section that there's raining on. my see, my and my land isn't as created a system of sheer wisdom is ation and every aspect by its occupation, by it seems why it's violence is continuous with impunity using this m compounding then justice. so if you want to go to the root causes or vision to account stuff, this occupational engage in
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a positive way to provide the palestinians with the section the acting to the latest violation of the latest tragedy that the palestinians have to face jana, israel, thank you. israel does, satan talks with the senior authority about vaccination distribution, but thank you very much. well, when on sales were briefly back to us proxy dictators. in guatemala, it was israel that fill the gap in today. a local former coca cola boss is inaugurated is ecuadorian president, a new book looked into powerful corporate elite and washington so called backyard. it links us crews in guatemala, on doris nicaragua, panama handle salvatore to jo biden's cage, children on the us mexico border. joining me now from salem in massachusetts is professor of eva chomsky author of central america's forgotten history. revolution, violence and the roots of migration. thanks so much for coming back on the river. i should just say, you know, the mexican president and his men will lopez over to said he had to complain to the
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by ration because it gives him of promoting a cou ahead of the ex, california prosecutor, a vice president to come on iris meeting with him some emblematic of, of his new book of us central america's forgotten history. clearly, one of the things that you see by looking at central america history is that the united states supports certain types of governments in central america. whether they were democratically elected or not, has absolutely 0 relevance. but if a central american government is willing to bow down to us economic demands, the united states will always support it. and if it isn't in the united states, doesn't care whether it's democratically elected or not. but is very willing to overthrow it, as we've seen, over and over again at the present day. boris johnson's government jo, buttons administration and try to overthrow the government of venezuela. but there's a way that comes up again and again in the book of how the influence of a good job is,
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is administration tells of aid countering us efforts towards neoliberalism. just tell me about venezuela's role in central america. not so much right now, but certainly during that period when it's, well, i had a lot more money to, to offer than offered latin american countries. a potential pass away from the meal liberal policies being imposed by the united states in the international financial institutions by offering low cost petroleum setting up trade relations, offering them a kind of an estate from the depth track that they had so long been caught in which makes that is the debt trap makes them completely subject to the united states and the international financial institutions in terms of what kinds of domestic economic policies they can impose. the united states to very clear demand for
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central america. its domestic economic policies be favorable to us corporations, and that generally means that the policies are going to be unfavorable to the poor of those countries because the very policies that us corporations want are things like low wages, no taxes, no environmental regulations, no unions, police repression of any kind of protest, oh, and access to land that is military and police aid in this possessing peasants from their land so that us corporations can have access to them. that's precisely the opposite of the kinds of policies that would be beneficial to the poor majorities in central america. for millions of people around the world, they can, they can see one emblem maybe on their kitchen table of all of this. i don't know, maybe you should have had the front cover of the velvet underground 1st album on their bananas. well, i would see bananas and coffee historically bananas and coffee starting in the
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19th century has been the the primary exports of central america. although that's diversified, a bought now, and i would say that us consumers also will find central american products on mere bodies. so if people who are listening to this in the united states, if you look at the labels on your flows, probably every one of you is wearing an item of clothing that's going to say major hunter is made into progress made in el salvador. obviously, you mentioned trade unions in the united states, excessive administration to deny any malign influence, of course, south of the rio grande it. as for trade unions, the f l. c. i o unions. they don't come up very well in this new book, and they're american institute for free, labeled labor development. they set up that alone usaid. how have, how, how is the united states and it's intelligence military industrial complex inserted itself in trade unionism. so i think there's been a real transformation over the course of the 1900 ninety's and up to the present
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day in the u. s. trade union movement. the certainly the post world war to us labor movement, official labor movement, the f l, and later f l. c i o, after 1955. really bought into the cold war or id, ology of repressing and eliminating the left within the us trade union movement and supporting u. s. foreign policy to eliminate the left in trade unions around the world. and that went right hand in hand with the policies towards latin america, towards central america, to try to promote what they called free trade unions. and that's why the a film, the american institute for free labor development was basically an anti communist push to try to de radicalize labor movements. and often with very high degrees of repression, including murder against trade, union activists, who saw the kinds of, of, of economic changes of reform,
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spit the united states. opposed. although in central america, when we have revolutions going on in nicaragua, salvador pharma and the united states is adamantly opposed to those revolutions, and a field plays an important role trying in trying to undermine those revolutions. however, i should also say that it's really, i think during those central american wars in the 1900 eighty's, we start seeing resistance from the low within the trade union movement against the leadership. the book has such a huge range. obviously, anyone who vote for trump will say nafta with abolished under his administration, but just skipping over and he's trumpeted and over throw any countries directly like president obama appears to have done in on doris, do you think biden will go back to the old playbook of overthrowing countries in central america given he was vice president when a man was a lie,
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was removed in under us and 29. i wouldn't say that the united states going directly over through phil. i am hunters, but it's certainly supported the overthrow of life in honduras. i don't actually see a very big friends between the obama and trump administrations, or between democratic and republican administrations. in general, what we've seen from the, by the ministration so far is an absolute commitment to the same kind of pro foreign investment economic model. and also to supporting the military and police in those countries on the pretext of trying to slow and stop migration. so there's sort of a humanitarian veneer to both of these that is biden like ever us president claims, but this is a model that's going to help eliminate poverty in central america. it's been followed for 500 years and it hasn't eliminated poverty yet. and the militarization
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is kind of covered up by trying to get us to focus on what they call the border crisis. so there is a crisis at the border but the border crisis is not going to be stopped by moving the repression into central america itself. professor viva chomsky. thank you. thanks for having me out. and then that's it for the show will be back on wednesday, the one year anniversary of the murder of george floyd by minneapolis police officer jovan. until then, if you're watching this online, get in touch my social media comment below and youtube to let us know what you think of what the u. s. has done to. it's so cold, backyard. ah, financial survival guy. when customers go buy, you reduce the bright. now, well, reduce the lower, the better cutting, but what's good for food market?
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it's not good for the global economy. the u. k. prime minister says that england is ready to remove almost all the restrictions claiming death rights dime. however, the critics point to the fact that cases are still going up, also become mis hours us to quit kiosk and base and kind of been made to can difficult in the know the president biden is not in the mood to talk about our job. i happy days, man. i'm protesting that rage in london and new york over the weekend just shooting the songs march yet another per day behind. but the impact of his case may go a lot further. i think we'll get


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