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the the, [000:00:00;00] the with me now i'm action returns here we're going underground. the nursing the stories buried by the mainstream media coming over the show. the daughter of the reverend doctor, martin luther king junior, bernice kings weeks going underground about racial justice and economic violence. and the american history of systemic white supremacy that you don't see in the history books
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a year after the police murder of george floyd and the centuries in tulsa rates massacre did lead to the destruction of so called black wolf street. one of the worst single act of racial violence in us history. all this a more coming up in today's going underground with 1st this week marks 100 years since the tools are race massacre with a so called black wall street, the wealthiest black community in the united states and the time was destroyed by state sanction, mobs, it is now known as one of the single worst incidents of racial violence, of 20th century american history. it's arguably emblematic of all of reverend doctor martin luther king junior. 3 evils of racism, economic exploitation, and militarism. well, joining me now from atlanta is the daughter of reverend king, who's now the ceo of the martin luther king junior center for non violent social change. when he, thanks so much for coming on the show. it was apparently july 28, 960. that your dad went to talk to greenwood avenues 1st. baptist church. i mean, why do you think it's only now 100 years after that we even and certainly the world
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has even heard of this black wolf street. his for lee, as it relates to incidences and, and as well as contributions of african american african americans, it's been kind of hit me and under the table. and it's only been in recent years when there's been such a, a force of the young people who really demanded more trunk than ask the side more honesty that these kind of things have been you know, coming to the surface. and you know, i think it's a travesty that we are just knowing the full history of it. i mean, some of us were aware of it, but i just think there's a great, a consciousness now around issues of race that hasn't been there in previous years because i don't think we have made it consistent issue through the generation.
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i mean to some we believe in the american dream perhaps is more disturbing because it's may say to some people, but even when african americans rise up or entrepreneurial make businesses, they are killed, murdered, and their houses and businesses are burned down. that's the reason my problem fascinated when he started talking about economic justice and how militarism was undermining the war on poverty is when he became a threat to our nation in a stablish status quo. so yes, you know, at the end of the day, i won't just say the united states of america, but i would say that there is a serious issue with black people across the world,
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whatever country he found it. and we've got to deal with that face to face. why is it that we've created the, the systems and structures, or should i say, why is it that people find the need to reduce other people in order for them to feel significant and powerful? and to keep power to them so. so that's something that we've been, we're in this world. that's what racism is. the belief that there are appear here in an area ration the people specifically the black people are inferior. and so we've got to confront bad head on and we're not going to bad ground. and in talking about white supremacy and the need for it to be dismantled and deconstructed, and the need for creating more equitable systems and structures, countries and outcomes. we've talk about divide and rule on this show quite, quite
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a bit. i, i going to tell you that i think the editor of the show might say that i think i had an argument many years ago with her, with ignorance, about the different legacies of malcolm x and martin luther king junior. and as you just said, your father talked about militarism, and that may will be the reason that he was assassinated. where, where did this emerge? this idea that somehow you have to take a side between malcolm x or your father? well, i mean, it emerged in the movement. i mean, there were people who clearly felt like my father was more passive and malcolm was more aggressive and they made an issue of that. and you know that particularly generational typically occurred as my father get older, which really wasn't that only 39 when you fascinated but into the sixty's. when he
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started turning in 30 that were 18 and college and everything didn't. you know, there was a very serious disappointment that there was not greater progress, especially on the economic front. and so, because math was more in the chicago, people gravitated toward that message because he was speaking about, you know, self empowerment. and it was more appealing to that generation or young people. and so that's where some of the device can, as well as, you know, the media with the, to against the job. and there were things that were said by malcolm himself directly against non violence. so people began to see the polar opposite, and we all know that in 1960 map, with the meta said there was
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a turning around of how he saw the white race. because he saw people with blue, with white skin in meta worshipping along with him. and so he began to change his perspective on white people in general and came back and you know, he and my father intersected briefly. i think that was 64 when with but briefly at the signing of the civil rights. and so i think there was a fear that the 2 would begin to merge and know suddenly malcolm is god and well, i don't think anyone is heard beyond vietnam at time to break the silence. anyone who could think that wasn't radical? did it, did it suit because i know you said that people perhaps don't remember your mum as, as much as they should. did it help your mother help campaign? the people didn't know the vietnam speech as well. my mother was
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a piece advocate before she met my father and she was the main person. there were others, but she was the main person that really encouraged him to speak out against the war and the non publicly, she said, martin, you know, we need your voice in the peace movement. we need your moral authority. and i think her, you know, trying to persuade him is what ultimately gave him the stress to do it because not till he was not courageous. but it was a risky step for him to take many plan to trade him. many of those in the civil rights movement attacked him. you know, the farm, the best c, l. c started to dry up the organization that he was president. that was, you know, leading the movement. and so because of her,
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her passion and understanding of the power of his words and his speech, she, she began and before he knew, fascinated, looking for way to present her papers because she felt future generations needed to understand the work that they were involved in an understand his teaching. so ultimately when he was fascinated, you know, she prayed and she felt that god was calling her to create the center. the martin genie set up a non violent social change. the foundation of it, where the came papers. and she went around the world after the assassination, literally around the world with her book to my life of martin luther king junior. she started in the world and came back to the united states of america because she wanted people to know the pure math is in the teaching of back to martin that
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became junior. and that began her crusade of developing what i call this some people call it a, the largest social change brand in the world. but the architect became began to become the architect of the king legacy. and then she started, you know, talking to governors and mentors. commissioners here in states about setting saw inside the king holiday in january, his birthday is a holiday. so battle county got to 1983 when the holiday actually we're finding law . there are already many states celebrating the king how they many city celebrating the king holiday. because she, she made all the red killed, her whole life was about the work that they were doing. and she always felt that the word and the teachings of martin luther king junior,
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would be sensual for future generations in the quest to create a just humane, equitable, and peaceful world. and i think she did a tremendous job for one person to help. obviously, for one person who read violently, love her husband, and decided to turn all of that pay you know, into practice. and that's why i comically we have martin with the king. you can read about pain, but she wouldn't be talking to day. i really don't think we would because it was a part of her. it wasn't like, oh my, i lost my husband. what do i need to do now? it was ok. i lost my husband. we were partners in this work together. i have to continue moving forward and making sure that everything that we stood for and everything that he taught us and that he embody, continues in that. and that's what she did. i mean,
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some credit that vietnam speech with inspiring so many anti war activists and ending wars, i don't know how many millions may have been saved. suddenly the exit to have from vietnam and from southeast asia. do you think many americans know about that? and what do you feel about the fact that you're saying it was that speech? it was that entrance into talking about foreign policy that had your phone. i don't think it was just speaking against the war. i think it was tying it to economic that we have diverting ponds to take human lives rather than investing on to in rich and live people. because president johnson the call was poverty, but nothing was happening. you know, and so here you have the black soldier going by the side by side for the freedom of america, but they come back home and then they go to segregated community. so he started
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identifying these inconsistency and then became problematic for this, for this nation. and the power structure, is it problematic now to make those connections? oh yeah. i mean if you make those kind of connection, sometimes people think you're not patriotic. you know, and very few people make those connections. but when you look at it today beyond war, let's talk about what's happening, you know, across the world. and in particular, what has had been highlighted in animation with police brutality. you know, many of all police forces have become militarized. when you look at the way that they, you know, are coming into the street, the face of protest. it's like a warranty. and in many instances they are peaceful protests and they've had the faith, militaristic officer. and so, you know,
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people are talking about it more, but i think what people are not doing is say, look, i'm the terry industrial complex is fine, but somewhere at about 50 to thick, more protecting out. and we only spend about to strip on health care to say its own health and wellness to maybe 2 or less on education. and so we've got to deal with this issue in our country because we have become more we become more focused on might then more morality. and that's what my dad was talking about, that america needed to repeat and needed to begin to really have a revolution of values that people need to be at the center and not saying because oftentimes what the wars are about in the day when you pull back the curtain,
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it is about power control and resort. and that's what got them in trouble bernice king. we're going to have to take a break that more from the ceo of the martin luther king junior said, of an oven and social change up to this break. ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is on often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time. time to sit down and talk to me the news.
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welcome back. i'm still here with the daughter of the late reverend doctor, much into the king junior, bernice king, 100 is the tulsa race massacre near liberals. when i say to you, things have changed a lot since the days, of course, in the days of your father's struggles. after all, derek drove in the police officer has been convicted for killing george floyd. i understand that he's now file the court submission, asking for probation, saying he's just the product of a broken system. he could be an asset to the community. what do you make of that submission? the prosecution or of course demanding? $3030.00 a love every attorney and going to represent the flying. so i'm not upset with him. it's unrealistic. i do not think the bidding judge is going to give him back. so i'm not going to even give it any energy because, you know,
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it doesn't deserve it. he deserves to get the highest possible because, you know, he, he took a human life and he did it so you know, cynically and with, without any sense of remorse at all. and so, you know, he's one person meaning just because he was convicted and whatever. so he's going to get a system like this has been happening over and over again, the recording that are coming for the even before the majority board and things that are happening right after yours more. so we're dealing with the fact that yes, things are not going to say that all my life change. of course things have changed. you know, we've seen a large influx of, of black leg is official. there are many african americans who are now part of the
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middle class and a few that are wealthy. there are people who can, you know, forge genuine, is friendship across race. when that was their dangerous back, especially in the south, back in the fifty's and 60, you know, they're more black americans going to college and, and things of that nature. but at the end of the day, as my father said, the true challenge now that he will speak in the 1965 that the both right, that is working toward genuine equality. and that's where people begin to cower. that's where people begin to bow defilippis. again, you know, making excuses and that's what we're facing now. as a nation, people do not want to pay the ultimate price to do away with racial equity. and yet we're going to have to face that and we're going to have to pay the fight
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and make the sacrifice in this nation. and until the majority of white america is truly committed to the dismantling of racism which is called continue in the struggle and fight. we're not going to accept systems and struggle trust structures and practices and policy that continue to show outcome where black at the bottom and alive as this can't be. i want to get to the goal for reparations . in the work of the be love campaign in a 2nd, but it was another thing that is change. so certain liberals say is that there was black people in positions of power and they have been in recent years. who, what is your father mean when he said at the time back it back, then he said, the majority of black political leaders do not send to prominence on the shoulders
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of mass support most selected by white elevated by white's. is that error over or are there still people in positions of a degree of power who aren't living up to the values of martin luther king junior? we call the tokenism ensuring that there's one person that represent a particular group that called minority. so that's token is and some of them feel the case in this nation. in many regard, when we talk about corporate board when, when we look at the ceo of fortune 500 company, still white majority white male. and still this kind of be here. opening the door and, and ensuring that other people are elevated so that there's equity. we have
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a long way to now, you know, i just think there is a great fear of being replace and be displayed by white males in america. i think that's why we have a lot of backlash in this country. we responsibility though, i'm going to say to make sure that as we look at a new way forward that we don't create the same outcome and results and as have been previous has been period where now you created the same effect. but now white male, i left out and left by, we can't do that, we have to create a, a beloved community where all people and the talents are respected and regard. and there is, there is equity. there is fairness, there is sharing all of those kind of thing. and so, you know,
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but again, it's not going to happen until we change the value of my heart. it was very prophetic when, when he encouraged 67 in his book, where do we go from the chaos community that we much rapidly began to shift from a thing oriented society to a person to society as part of the revolution about him. and he also said, we must begin to shift that loyalty on being sectional. or in other words, from being group oriented from being, you know, aligned and only loyal to your, you know, that the group that you identify with. whether that be from a national nation standpoint, whether there be from a racial stamp on a religious standpoint, to becoming more ecumenical, that there must be an old variety, a loyalty to humanity. and until we change that value system,
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we are backed up the front of our mind when we implemented policy, when we are putting in place practices, when we are engaging each other, i think we've done a little bit with the same outcome, which is black is going to continue to be at the bottom, brian and well, and we'll just make a little incremental span. i think you said the tranquilizing drug of gradualism is how we put that. but americans and people in britain actually were about to have a photo id. voter law may be coming here and it's, and your foundation obviously, is committed to no violence. how can you think of the democratic change if voters suppression, which is what's been allege in the united states and even here seems to be gathering momentum. yeah, that's the backlash without talking about any time there's
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a step forward. there's always this backlash to push you to step back. and so the momentum is that we have to continue to push for we have to continue to organize and we have to continue to mobilize. we had to continue to strategize. that's what daddy and them did. i mean, when they went through the montgomery, moving the badge that back they had pushed back, but they had the re, gavin sales. and i think the challenge we have here in this nation is the people of good. we'll have to find the way to coordinate and collaborate and move together in the syncopated way to deal with the boat or suppression issue. i try to get into all of the different issues around, you know, sunday voting, you know, ballad box, etc. those are all important, but the most egregious part of these pieces of legislation are the provisions that
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allow the governor and even the state legislatures to come in and remove local election gord from power. and they make decisions, which means they can go in and overturn elections. that bank us no matter what party you a part of because it can create some equity. you can create, you know, you know, can fraud and all kinds of stuff. and so that's what we have to be concerned about, and that's why so many losses have been filed against many of these pieces of legislation and why it's important that we focus all of adkins and non getting this . federal legislation passed. john lewis, voter advancement act and the, the for the people in caught in the senate now. so many people calling for our president now vice president. com is taken on their responsibility at his
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request to, to, to, in the syllabus. because this is a hard and thought of democracy voting, and now they have controversial histories, of course, as a former prosecutor and master concentration. just finally, i mean, you're calling for reparations and their culture, reparations from colonial. former colonial powers here in western europe for what government have done to people of color over over centuries. i mean, do you think that reflects what your father said about the crucial dimension of economics? i mean, he said that in the much for jobs he said abraham lincoln read call marks. and he quoted ok, see in babylon, ruder, famous communist poets is economics crucial to all of this? and how successful have you been in this call for reparations? yes, the struggle,
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i mean there are many people calling for. we know we had people testifying on capitol hill for my dad actually said, if you've done something against the people at that time, 400 years, then you must turn around and do something for those 2. and so i just said in though he didn't directly you going reparations, he would say that there has to be a form of reparation. it didn't cost you anything to desegregate in customer dining . and yet, there is a great debt that is owed, as indicated in his i have a dream speak to the black community for the years of exploitation about labor. and, you know, frankly, rick, weighing in the main ways of getting labor and here and gaining well in this nation who, slavery and then everything we talked about. we, you know, we can, you know, going about our business,
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and then you still trying to assure you. and take things from us and we're not doing anything to you. and so there is a debt and when you have debt or no balance sheet, you have to clear it up. and it's time for, you know, nations of the world where this kind of exploitation has taken place to clear up the debt to go. and i mean, those december of those 2 were exported marginalized shield treated in humane in this world pennies king. thank you. thank you. the show will be back on monday for more detail on the finance. again, i got a leak from a u. s. funded lab in china may be responsible for getting millions of people around the world in the past 12 months until then keep my social media. tell us if you think job i can live up to the dream. the martin luther king had for america. ah ah
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