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schools. cessation of conditions that are cruel inhuman or degrading or that constitute torture. is now demanding the release of. the government refused to release. sure. seems like a perfectly reasonable request. i ask. half the pallor. part or see.
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that's what i. was like a wake up call i mean as i could i would have been submerged in the stonewalling efforts of my government of my colleagues there and get. them going along with that stonewalling and do placing these obstacles in the way. of these attorneys who are trying to get information. nearing the end of my tour there. are sometimes going to be a don that's going to be done by me and has been have a short amount of time to do it. all sense he wants the next i know where i get the next. inspect your bags they look at your things and you have something like that. they're going to prosecute you and i knew i made a list of names they're not going to let me off the howling with that. this so figured out a way you know how my going to get off the island. and that's
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when i decided i would minimize regular pieces of paper. and off to where i could put it in a card and mail it off the island. my thinking was in when i went through the postal system was that whoever's handling that card would if it's a little bit thick would think that maybe it's photos or something inside of it. which is not uncommon and i just happened to be since it was january the next holiday coming up was found last day so when i went shopping it is changed on my card it ended up in the be distributed chihuahua dog. and i wasn't sure i was going to do it i mean there's just something i stayed awake at night sometimes think and you know should i go through with the show now. i'm putting my own future on the line plus my wife's my daughter's the three individuals compared to five hundred fifty plus. i'm going to leave. they're
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going to be left behind in maybe never have their day in court. retrieved the list put it in the card. office down to the post office box. meanwhile spends his fourth year in guantanamo neither the german nor the turkish government have intervened on his behalf. release nobody out there. and as prisoners. are going to get. they told me you will stay here forever you will never go home. for washington two thousand and four. had been along with her lawyer she drew
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public attention to the breach of law and her son's fate. as a housewife i was terrified of all the cameras. i'd rather not talk. to the actress vanessa redgrave told me don't be afraid to wear with you. is an idea. i mean it's clearly inhumane how they treat the prisoners there. for over a year robbie a corner rallied in vain for her son until in november two thousand and five she gained a powerful ally since she wasn't even a german citizen it was convenient to say we don't want back that's what they stuck with but chancellor merkel disagreed with this policy and said i will put it into this and bring this young man home and then one day he finally arrived here on the plane. my family was waiting for me.
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i saw my mother first she locked me in her arms and wouldn't let go of me anymore. she also cried. assumed they were tears of joy. it was beautiful beyond words and i can't describe it i was detained and tortured as now i was a free man again. everything stayed the same except for some experiences that i don't share with my family because they don't want to hear about them. because going to pakistan to fight the usa alongside the taliban in afghanistan and . ruby occur nurse believes that mertz new arab friends made him lose his
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way. he wouldn't tell me much but it sounds to brainwash him. first so i know full well but my mother told the media things that the americans then used against me. they were unsubstantiated things she just said because she thought it would help bring me home sooner. i might have while i confronted him i said was it my fault that you were away and hand sorry yes it was.
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but isn't there a smile just wanted to bring home the. old year later after i left it like many. the officer was alerted there was an investigation and i was the focus of it. at that point any ok this is not. the list that i sent this is relating to that list. when they interrogated me they proceeded to take major case prints of my fingers my hands my ponds to compared to the documents that they retrieved. and then they put me through a series of handwriting samples. so i could do the return address of get no in writing. twenty different times.
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chain of events to. if i got court martialled going to impact me i'd be prosecuted but it's not going to impact. my wife my daughter. jury came back with combined for six months. smack her dismissal i mean it looks like to me ok that's it retirement is gone this is a life off thing so no income. immediately after i was taken only locked up and separated from my family. and out of the confinement facility. that's where they came with the waist band with the chains and the cuff my hands together for me and stay away from five am till lights out at ten pm trying to stay awake and just staring straight at the wall i mean the
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chipped paint and. the primer and different colored paint beneath it start taking on characters and you name i start to lose anything and i think i started dreaming . i was stripped all the way down full nude indeed so that they can inspect my body they take their sweet time out it. it's part of the humiliating effect that they try to have on people. then when i was it and recreate the wheel when they created one condom on you know they used what they typically use in prisons. barbara testified as a witness for the government against matt diaz during his trial after receiving his list she had turned it over to the state authorities. thought it was a hoax. or an
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ether. for months the u.s. government was facing relentless criticism over torture allegations at abu ghraib and guantanamo. they decided it was time for damage control. in a carefully orchestrated press conference they aim to demonstrate that there was no connection between the abuses at abu ghraib and government policy and that the aggressive techniques at guantanamo came from the bottom up and not the white house . to prove their point they released a confidential memo and carried a single signature. of course my memo was right there clearly the intent was to shift the blame well of course i thought it was my duty and it didn't bother me at all to put in writing but then you see as it went up the chain all these other senior lawyers never put a thing in writing and so you think. ok i guess they were smart i was stupid but i never thought about any sort of political ramifications or i mean i always thought
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about was supporting my command but that's what put me out in the press and the critics you know the criticism and books and every torture book you can think of and every you know it's it's horrible from that standpoint that i'm taking the heat for the administration. to be really start with you did you expect that your opinion would not be the one that would be relied on that it knows are in fact one of the read oh sure you. start my question was. i'm sorry were you surprised that your opinion became the opinion that was relied upon to shock i never received a phone call i never received an e-mail i never received anything asking me anything like are you a lunatic what were you thinking or you know great opinion or i received nothing you come across in this is being eager to have these techniques used and it says under category to using detainees phobias such as fear of dogs.
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now i'm trying to figure out as a lawyer how removal of clothing and using fear of dogs does not invision naked people by the way the hoods in their two naked people having dogs ticked on them that would have never happened i mean that's just not professional that indicates something but it didn't happen it did not happen man well dogs were used with naked people doubt that it happened if an investigator found that it happened i not disputing that i'm just saying i was not aware of it at the time when you said this . what. i what i meant was i didn't improve anything i wrote a legal opinion so whatever the commander. it would be applied in a manner to prevent it from being used abusively. i understood at the time i was hung out. and i think understand better than i've
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ever understood the role you played in this. it would not have been appropriate for me to simply say no legal objection or no comment and so there was no pressure. there was no pressure it was generated by me and my staff thank you do you think. that the techniques that we're talking about in guantanamo bay.
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what's really happening to the global economy with. headlines. at the plentiful supply it was terrible to say the i'm very hard to make an obligation to a monkey or a plumber that never had sex with the earthquake there are no plans let's limit. the amount
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. of. put it on your wife. polish face time you know. pleasure to have you with us here on our team today i'm sure. back in braman mubarak or nice finds it hard to make a life for himself. you armor i turn us around you.
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it's been years i saw you in civi you had a long beard of us is all it is you look kind of rough yes. so how are you doing it's been a while since then. did you ever think of changing your name. just. that i do have the right to do that. i could change the name my mother and father gave me. i don't want to do that. you don't change it you are innocent after all and for me it's not a matter of being ashamed of it but it is hard to find a job. and if someone came to me for work i'd say ok brother i'll give you some work. but when i hear the name murat kurnaz. i would be scared.
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well that's obviously since you don't know me. maybe you're being watched and then my place would be watched to my customers might be annoyed and yeah that happens to me all the time. oh. go from top to in school. i feel frozen. but in some point you do have to leave on time oh hind. what am i going to do for the rest of my life i'm too young to just be retired. i knew if i owned my own business i had to do something that i would be good at that . there are too far out. there. doing it so. well dog day care business is i had
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a standard operating procedure that was approximately four hundred pages long they're covered everything you could think of and i thought well this is probably meant for me because this is something i understand and also be you know a structure. when i got back from prison i was being stripped of all of my credentials as qualified lawyer. no longer allowed to practice in any capacity. that the conviction find employers that will take you. for my colleagues there came somebody no longer associate with. and was basically persona.
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has been foreclosed the car has been repossessed by. the media every day recording. i'm getting collection calls daily. and i'm doing the best i can paying the bills that i can pay it's given me above water for now and just wait i mean i know there's family out there. there's comes a worse than a fun you know it they have a room for me that's where they come to. they wrote. that if you're right. or not. because one and. everything. what happens. there for us. on this and they
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fall they're not going to kill. you. if i didn't do what i did to result the conviction and the loss of income and savings and all of that. and only be attending college right now. with the prepaid college tuition that i had saved up for that i'd been used not only to get through my case but to get through the aftermath of that and continue living for as long as i could. and then it's domino effect. my ex-wife got behind in her mortgage and things went downhill for her where they're losing their houses when. within a matter of months from now can also be homeless.
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the stench will complain basically showing that the mortgage doesn't been paid show that trying to recover the property has basically shown if you want to get current at the bank would want is fourteen thousand two hundred seventy three dollars forty two cents. what school. i want to go along. the money. grants and loans and what nobody else does go in that and in. a lot of people change saying that he was down in guantanamo he can be classified as a terrorist for the government should hang my dead rescue said he or me weren't any
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more especially a moral victory. the moral day around the corner. or for the woman from the larger duty it's to fit. you know how that. was definitely a sense of shame and letting her down. that's the downside of taken actions i took for this the downside of being the raised i was in heaven the conscience i had it. i am even safe fear just maybe it's the fear of making the wrong decision without that sort of structure to fall back on. you know i'd say it's difficult to know when. i know i don't know how to explain this
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these witch hunts that were going on in the military if a guy called you a dyke nothing was done to that person and there was no one you could say anything to and so that was it was very difficult particularly you know if you're doing better than the men. obviously an easy way to take a cheap shot at you is to question your sexual orientation or you know wear a sign that says i'm straight i'm not a homosexual i'm i was very lonely in the military because i was afraid of what people might say about me i let that control me for too many years of my life. and she's never dated a lot or perhaps being married was just not meant
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for me so i can't explain that i'm sure there's many reasons but mr y. all you know you just you can't let it bother you because god has a plan for everyone and so i think. you know gay maybe that day will come for me but it hasn't come and so it bothers me but it's just something i just can't explain. i understand that i've been placed in these situations for a reason maybe i don't understand why perhaps it's because i have the ability to
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withstand what has happened i'm glad i volunteered i'm glad i was assigned to go on time oh i'm sure that was part of god's plan even if. i don't always understand it and i don't always agree with the outcome. but. that's what happened and i just really have no regrets. the resigned joy and serving in the military still only job i knew the only life i knew for my entire adult life. my childhood was living in poverty. and i made a decision to join the military because otherwise i don't know what will become of me.
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i had a sense of why. i did everything to support the mission down. and did what they wanted me to do but that one thing that's the only thing that they disapproved of. well i'm not seeking any sympathy for them i've got myself in that position but i mean that is a reality a consequence of acting on your conscience can sometimes have these types of results.
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go and i believe in fate i am and that god puts us to the test. maybe when autonomy was a form of punishment. or a way of strengthening me for the rest of my life for those closest to him. i would say that i didn't pass this test.
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the deepest lake in the world. usually then no more than fifteen thousand years old this one dates back twenty five mins. the. spirits and buddhist gods live in. the pure clear water in the lake is helping scientists unravel the mysteries of the universe. i try to see by cal in its entirety. it's not that i have discovered something new here rather that i absorb everything that this place offers. the spirit. if you. start to construct. a bit.
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don't want to meet gangstas you don't want to be. they don't want that blowing all the time that the kid came to be we can see. you just made zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero problems in the hood. who. said. i don't want to die. i want to die young young. or not psyched to look back to camp at guantanamo. their patients are forced to months after a massive popular strike never turned world's attention to the place that some
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gulag of our minds. crowds in hundreds of cities across the globe take part in a million mask march against corruption corporate greed an online privacy breach of . tensions between germany and the u.k. over spying allegations grow brylin accuses london of breaching international law by using its embassy as a surveillance post. and reaching for the stars the olympic torch for the winter games in sochi paris for lift off and its first ever space for the reports from the launch site. a nationwide strike increase shuts down public services in transport for twenty four hours as protesters go all out against a steady program whipped by the country's international lenders.

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