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just after one am here in moscow this early sunday morning waiting for the july warm welcome if you just joined us kevin owen is here with the top stories for you this hour more than two million people a year die from aids that is why this weekend experts and scientists from around the world a meeting to try to find a way to save more people mainly through prevention but there's also a group at the same time calling into question the accepted wisdom of where this deadly disease actually comes from and they're angry no one's listening sara firth reports. eighteenth international aids conference will begin and head in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community work is activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a t day conference going on looking at a ton of definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for
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a singer he was one of the first diagnoses and it was a terrifying experience for information was just records. chatroom. so rich or even the first thought was to. be. considered first. cigar since the discovery of aids three decades ago it's estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease they've a sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as a cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been a subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just hiv and cause doubt in the standard aids test which is based on the taking the presence of the hiv virus was you might think there are only
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a small number of scientists who doubt the hate hiv aids there way here at the conference is a list of around two thousand five hundred names although scientists challenge the classic definition some to have different diseases to treatment author and his dog tease alternative therapies to conventional aids fighting drugs so strong is his belief in these other treatment methods that he's written of the twenty three years positive based on his experiences. right somber deserve an explanation for. the work through for clifford. troops this story true sir from so far says dissenting from the conventional view that hiv causes a city can face eighteen hostility from the scientific to is not occurring with the mainstream hate hiv theory of aids has even been compared to holocaust denial include a crime against humanity a science that is
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a life has to have the permission to question a certain model of thinking theory of thinking you know you don't bring in here a dying patient so that we have to act immediately and give him something we are discussing here we're scientists and medical doctors why should we not be able to discuss i'm very astonished at the reaction is sometimes so aggressive so the official aids two thousand and ten conference will be one of the most widely watched aids events in the world every day some of the topics the likely to be discussed will be access to treatment as well as need technologies and hate hiv and injection drug now organizers have titled the conference right here right now which they say emphasizes the central importance of protecting and promoting human rights as a prerequisite to successful response to the problem. and they are supposed to christian theology is a doctor of medicine who indeed challenges the mainstream ideas on h.i.v.'s he says
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his views are different because he's not driven by the interests of pharmaceutical companies. there is no epidemic in europe there is no epidemic in the united states and in africa aids is mainly renaming poverty related diseases and as a clinician i find it just not helpful and what it all comes down to ask you so you are you disagreeing with u.n. aid you disagreeing with the world health organization both very respectable organizations that do have the finger on the polls that say no it is an epidemic. what respectable they are about obviously they are and obviously they are driven by interests and we saw that just last year with this massive x. in asia for flu and now in reach respect it is it's become obvious that they were driven by pharmaceutical interests and the same i'm afraid to say it's true for hiv
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it's a huge movement mainly driven by pharmaceutical interests your really basically saying people if they do i shouldn't worry maybe we should maybe go for a test if they believe they put themselves at risk on all what you saying is what you say almost criminal in some ways well i'm sorry to contradict you i'm not believing i'm going back to the facts and the facts tell the people who test positive for various reasons even the producer of the tests are not aware of a standard to verify presence or absence of hiv antibodies in human blood and quote that's what you find in the product information even people who test positive not necessarily come down with aids even after twenty or twenty five years reading the facts and i'm acting according to facts but independent no more pharmaceutical interests and that's what i think what all doctors should do regardless of the majority are not. europe remains in the tight grip of
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a heat wave right now in moscow the temperatures of already broken several records in the summer indeed saturday some parts of the capital were sizzling in thirty eight degrees celsius results these tests are a silly found out for us when you ask invites to see this as a reason to have fun. he was. right because. it's. the out. there. was. was was.
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was was was was. was. was perseverance are going to. ok well another. way to look at how european firefighters are relying on russian. blazes that's coming up. the tough immigration law in arizona is being criticized across the united states for a lot of racial profiling the law that said to come into force. the police to stop and search people who are just suspected of being and immigrants critics say will lead to the targeting of ethnic groups supporters claim the. results in
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california found if illegals have gone. and people around the world. it's a bank breaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these workers arrived in the united states illegally some from as far as central america and many are oblivious to the political firestorm centered around them know what happened here for leave and you're going to leave any time i mean a lot of this is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot fence i'm in favor of the fifty foot fence there's a loving million illegal immigrants in the united states. those could be american jobs those could be tax paying jobs but some industries especially california's
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agriculture businesses don't want americans working for them. which translates into workers needed a spanish language sign definitely aimed towards immigrant workers a foreign based workforce that's making sure that. make it to your table there's no need for interviews or long applications undocumented immigrants simply show up at a field and they're hired many people including former president george w. bush i mean immigrant workers do the jobs americans want to do at a farm in oxnard a city just north of los angeles neighbors aren't convinced the average american could step in their shoes not even for a day. to hire a. white person is too hard. i haven't seen any american here working here in the fields said he'll get it all came into this country illegally through the southern california desert he makes a dollar ninety for every box of strawberries she fills in now in an effort to
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employ out of work americans and obviously to prove a point the united farm workers union is embodied in american citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two they find themselves appreciating those who are taking the jobs we stop by the unemployment office to find out if people who are out of work would be willing to take the job of an immigrant farm worker a farmer came a. job as a farmer. and now. that. if i had a job that got me out there got me some exercise but no heavy lifting was at least eleven dollars an hour i would take it but i doubt that it's usually a lot of heavy lifting it doesn't pay too much there farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have. conservative radio host tony katz is among the growing number of supporters for immigration crackdown he thinks
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a threat to the u.s. isn't just financial this is about people who may be coming with diseases we've already eradicated bringing them back into the united states america has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration eric spence is the founder of we support arizona dot com he thinks americans will take the job of farm worker because an american will do what it takes to feed their family according to the united farm workers so far only three people have taken up there are for to take immigrant jobs in los angeles. are t. for journeyman is also conservative and reverend. thomas a human rights activist they crossed swords on this very same issue in our washington studio discussing if the new strict immigration bill was justified. the whole argument is around the issue of scarcity when you got all of these folks on employed all of a sudden you've got to look for a scapegoat for the reason why folks on employed but that's not the reason why
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folks ought employ the reason folks on employed is because of the way the economic system was structured wasn't regulated fell apart now the issue that you need to understand is that there's always been this country because of the capitalist system a race to try to produce more or less that has always been the case so what happens is that you ended up basically outsourcing it's not that folks took jobs we gave away jobs we gave away jobs right there on the mexican border when we passed nafta and we passed caf to all the free trade agreements it was so that people of corporations based in the united states could escape all the kinds of regulations and all the kinds of labor laws that exist within the united states it's the illegals themselves who cause trouble as well as the businesses i mean business is not innocent here business is cost and the american taxpayer billions of dollars through skirting labor laws locally said reverend reverend how do you respond oh i get i want on a car going just to semantically question one is i don't call anyone a legal because there is no human being that is illegal they may be undocumented
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get a etc etc but it's a theological point if you don't understand theological point of view then i guess that's why it's because i don't have a reverend if you haven't already what you're talking about in terms of their anti immigrant for is a new word for racism and what you're really talking about are keeping people in the shadows so that people can continue to be manipulated by corporate entities and you never look at the kinds of international policies that the united states has created another place that creates a false immigration to the united states in the first place the reverend can say that all he wants but the it's the word illegal it does count if you're breaking the law you there is such a thing as illegal immigration the left is doing everything they can to change the fight from illegal immigrant to immigrant the law that has been passed that has been passed in the soon to be implemented in arizona really opens the door to racial profiling because if you believe almost. it attracts one of the things you know about always where the police can stop anybody without a reasonable cause well there's always reasonable cause when it comes to people of color to get stop you drive into shining a car that's reasonable cause you look like you're in the wrong neighborhood that's
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reasonable cause that's always the issue this is just the new new new form of racism i just want to ask the reverend question should there be any border law at all should anyone be allowed to come here at any time for any reason and stay as long as they want the united states i just can i get some clarity on that from you know sir well the issue is i mean yes of course you want to have some regulation to the border but it needs to be home to main it needs to be jass it needs to really deal with where you're going as a country and it also needs to take into account the kind of policies that you have put in place and other countries that creates a forced economic integration but the chances you know if you'll send the story as well on the home page of tea dot com looking ahead to transporting tara in about fifteen minutes from now in our special report looks into the hidden history of car bombings a sadly very modern phenomenon. my. you know.
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this is r.t. for moscow to take you through some international news in brief b.p. saying that massive cap they put on its ruptured well in the gulf of mexico still appears to be holding firm the cap stopped the flow of oil into the sea for the first time since the disaster was caused by an explosion at their rig in april pressure testing is now being carried out and engineers are checking to see that there are no further leaks the oil spills affected hundreds of miles of coastline and seriously damaged the region's economy. at least sixteen people have been killed in northwest pakistan after militants ambushed a convoy of passenger buses the vehicles were traveling to the city of pushout with
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an escort from security forces when militants opened fire there five reporters have been killed on the spot it's believed the rest died in hospital. this is the heat across europe so ready cause severe droughts another first summer fires in greece these pictures truly firefighters are trying to deal with some dangerous blazes there two large forest fires are raging near the capital athens threaten the coastal resort of carmel's and as artie's refresh now reports russian helicopters are among the most effective means of dealing with fires like this this time of year. it's every year hundreds of thousands of have terese of spanish forest disappear the reason fire and. the combination of the hot dry climate and human negligence often creates an unstoppable force resulting in a national catastrophe. but now it may have manic snatch. serving on the front line
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for many years russian firefighting helicopters are among the best and spain has welcomed their arrival we know that this is the best thirty quarter for five hoping . you're going to spain for the fighting is very very important market and the come of the right it's the start of the five voting system that will have this particular fire fighting helicopter the russian k thirty two is capable of carrying up to five tons of water takes just ten seconds for the crew to feel its huge container here it is and just fifteen seconds to drop it onto a fire so it's rather quick which is extremely important but this isn't the only feature that makes this russian models turned out. to seem to be just moving up the directions and no tail rotor makes the machine more stable here in. iraq. they stability and accuracy also guarantees safety for firemen both on the ground and in the air at least has that even at the if you sent over
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fire with flames reaching the helicopters kill she always feels safe. it's made in russia but it works perfect here in london it's easy to control easy to maneuver it's not afraid of strong winds when others can't even takeoff it continues to work it's an ideal helicopter to work in emergency situations as they say it's gone through fire and vice versa i didn't like it but now it's my favorite pilot say the case just a tease always the last helicopter to leave a missionary or ten russian kafeel cities are already a feature in the skies over spain was to move to join the ranks of the country's army and as the spanish sar mine testifies that presence could be of critical importance. alekhine to severe pain. it's exactly ninety two years on sunday since the bolsheviks executed the last russian tsar nicholas the second of his family but their sense of three centuries of rule by the
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order of mine often will sting in a moment our exclusive interview with the story of helen rappaport who's also written a book called the last days of the romanovs. today i'm in oxford with helen rappaport she's an expert on the russian imperial family particularly the last days of that arm on us who were assassinated in a cattery boat during the bolshevik revolution helen rappaport thanks very much for
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talking to r.t. now you focus on the last thirteen days of that are moneths lives in your pattern but why did you choose that period well when i looked at the stories of. the end of the dentistry i suddenly realized that although we knew the broad span of nicholas's rain and the overall story no one had looked at any great detail in those final few days particularly a new culture in berg and the main reason for that was because until the collapse of communism there was no access to some of the important eyewitness testimonies by the guards and your coffee or ski who was in charge of the party of the city was in a terrible state of panic the bolsheviks were basically taking everything they could out of your culture and work that was worth anything because it was the center of the mining industry so it was gold semi precious. minerals and they wanted to get that all out before the city found so in terms of taking the imperio family there what do you think the saw for example must've felt when he
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knew they were going to catch him because your book had a large factory and industrial population a very heavily politicized workers who were very loyal bolsheviks and the sars heart sank when he was told that he was going to be taken there he said i would go anywhere but if you catch him but because the people there are so against me i once the family arrived in a pattern but they lived in increasingly horrible circumstances they were actually told the minute they arrived you are now entering a prison regime and there was a big difference between how things were in some polls square they had a rare relative degree of freedom to move about to go to church to go outside to see people in the outside world the awful thing that happened when they arrived that you can't remember their immediately greeted by a place surrounded by an enormous stockade a wooden stockade was but built right around the house the windows were painted
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white so the family once they're inside that house could not see the outside world they were denied newspaper several tonight letters and parcels no visitors so they were effectively cut off and what kind of family were they at that stage well they were incredibly close knit family very devoted to each other and i think the thing that one of the fundamental things that held them so closely together was they had this very deep very profound off adults they also the girls in many ways were very immature for their age very own worldly they lived such a cuckoo life that the alexander palace in outside some petersburg and so it's made it more about yeah of little ski he is often portrayed sort of maniac all murderer but in fact. to sort of bring out a slightly more complex side to his personality well he was an absolutely ruthless cope blooded pragmatic dedicated bolshevik he was also
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a local checa chica was the precursor of what became the k.g.b. the the russian political secret service so he was there for a purpose he was sent in to enforce clamp down on the press nice ation to really make the route regime there a very strict prison regime and effectively to prepare for what was now an increasing venture as he was that they might have to kill the family amongst the guards was there anything len that they weren't going to go through with it yes absolutely just before they came to kill the family you're asking i was issuing orders about who was supposed to kill whom they were all given an individual target and some of the guards immediately said we will not kill the girls and the number of killers in the end was reduced because of that and in fact the ultimate solution was putting all in a room and and killing them all together but that turned into
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a bloodbath didn't it and you've spoken to a forensic expert tell me what you what his opinion of what happened was well what concerned me was the terrible inefficiency with which they murdered them i mean some some people think they were just lined up in a row bang bang bang you're dead it was not like that it was a dreadful ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it was brutal because you know you're also didn't plan it he didn't check out what whether they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't account the fact they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria. people screaming and running around it was an absolute catastrophe because they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family
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really who had a quick death was actually nicholas because the minute they the order came to fire they all want to take pot pot shot at the czar of course so they could say well i shot nicholas so he died immediately but the others suffered horribly particularly the children now the murder of a family is often attributed to a sort of maverick branch of the kasserine bolsheviks but you believe that the order can be traced directly to len it well lennon was very careful to always cover his tracks and he he never ever took responsibility for anything as controversial as the murder of the wrongness but he said categorically we must not have a living banner we must not have anyone surviving from the family around whom the counter-revolution could gather and gain a you know gain gain power so the decision was made in moscow during meetings with dollar short in a man from the soviet who went back and forth quite
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a few times to moscow now got a shock and was very good friends with your crossfield law who was learning his right hand man said lawford had worked as opposed to tater new country but he knew the city he knew the bolsheviks there and i think fundamentally a tacit agreement was given by lenin that when the time came and the judgment of when that time came was left to the culture and bobos it's when they knew that the game was up and the city was going to fall to go and kill more telegraph report thanks very much i thank you. so much for your.
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. well crossing live from moscow twenty four hours a day this is r.t. and these are all top stories there's something scientists convening in vienna question the conventional medical view that the h.i.v. virus trade is a major international conference to take place in the city united nations says the disease is killed around twenty five million people since it was discovered three decades ago. much of europe's been gripped by a severe heat wave record breaking temperatures have also been felt in russia threatening crops and forcing people to find new ways to keep cool. and there's arizona's controversial immigration.


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