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velshi, this is msnbc special coverage of primary night in america. it is midnight on the east coast. polls are now closed in all five states that we are watching. arizona, kansas, missouri, michigan, and washington today. we are going right to state kornacki just a moment. to get the very latest numbers as votes are still being counted. but perhaps the most watched vote of the night happened in kansas where nbc news now projects that voters decided to protect the states rights to and abortion. this is a first date on abortion rights since the court overturned roe v. wade. in arizona, three trump endorsed election deniers are on the ballot. all three races, right now, too early to call. but that may change, while i am talking to you. in michigan trump endorsed candidate tutor dixon, is the projected winner of the republican primary for governor. dixon will run against the incumbent gretchen whitmer.
in missouri the battle of the two trump endorsed candidates called eric has been decided. and we seem to projects that missouri eric schmidt has won the republican nomination for senate, defeating the former governor eric greitens. and in washington state, the votes is still too early to call for tua publicans running for election who both voted to impeach donald trump. congresswoman jerry her rather butler's leading right now against trump endorsed candidate joe can't. and congressman -- dan newhouse is leading a tremendous candidate, lauren colp. steve kornacki with us all night, let's go over to the big board and see what's going on right now. i say you've chosen to talk about arizona first. tell us what you are looking at. >> a bit of a potential surprise here in arizona, kerry lake, the republican backed by donald trump, former newscaster up there in arizona, had let in the polling in this race, and i think came in today as the favorite. you can see we got a lot of the
vote, this is what happens in arizona, was more than an hour ago that we had no vote, now we got about 60% of the vote and. karrin taylor robson actually with a lead here of eight and a half points over kari lake. the way that this in arizona's, they got extensive early voting, mail voting, and basically what these counties do is they released right away in this first hour, all the votes that were received by about yesterday. that's basically what you are looking at here to start. so what was expected that vote would be the most favorable vote for karrin taylor robson so she needed to take the lead, she needed to build a little bit of a path, because it was expected that the vote that was cast today, and then the final votes that will be kind of not till tomorrow, would be more favorable to kari lake. robeson succeeded and getting a path here. a path of eight and a half points. it may well end up being enough to hold off lake. we are going to see some of the same day votes getting added heat here. like its number take up a
little bit here. but robson came in today as the underdog. right now at 60% in, has a real shot at this. over the next couple hours, we're gonna see a trickle of that but that was cast today get added to this. but that is basically gonna stop, and then maricopa county is the biggest one. here they say not till tomorrow will a tally of those that were about for today. and we process and all that. it can take time in arizona who remember the some 2020, took a few days. but i think a little bit of a surprise that taylor robson really in this, game absolutely has a chance to win. this lake is the one -- >> however, it doesn't matter, because if taylor robson comes up tonight and tomorrow in the late, kerry lake is already said the election has been stolen from her. >> well that raises all sorts of issues that. because if you she takes, if she loses, and take that posture, she has been running as a team with blake masters. blake masters, the other trump candidate here in the
republican race for the u.s. senate, masters, this additional batch of votes is close but he is ahead. so if that same trend sort of a change here, where masters improves as the later votes get counted, then masters could end up winning this primary, lake losing the other primary, and if she does file through on which we're talking about, that could certainly negatively affect blake masters going into that general election kind of democratic mark kelly. i should add by the way. the secretary of state's primary as well that we've been talking about, then, champak candidate for secretary of state. he is also leading by eight points, substantial lead with this early batch of votes. going on the expectation that the later boats will favor the trump candidates. he certainly looks like he isn't the best position right now, of those three trump backed candidate. but i think he is in the best position, then you look at masters, and i think there is a real question mark right now about kari lake, and a bit of a surprise. >> she is an interesting candidate, trump by candidates, and others carry like.
an entire election denier, someone who said that she would not want to a biden certified as president. she doesn't believe you election was correct. she believes also the things. she sticks herself way out of the right of even many trump candidates. >> and that was -- this is the interesting thing when you look at arizona. this november. because it's gonna be so critical that arizona to that race to who controls the u.s. senate here. and the potential here, if blake masters, if he does get the republican nomination for the u.s. senate, would he be betting on tickets to be running a ticket with robeson? versus running on a ticket with lake? how voters in arizona perceive that. might be a little different. >> what else are you looking? at >> as you mentioned, kansas is the biggest surprise tonight. sitting at 60 40. the biggest suspense right now, still is in the third congressional district. let's see if we can get it up here, in michigan. this is around grand rapids. here it is, peter meijer, voted to impeach donald trump.
freshman republican, that was one of his first thoughts casted as member of congress. now this one has kind of swung back and forth all night. but this has got to be discouraging what's been happening now in the last 15 minutes here. for peter meijer. his opponent, john gibbs, as you can, see has opened up a lead of 2.1 points. what's happened is that there has been a big split here in terms of the mail votes, and the same-day votes. meyer was absolutely cleaning up in the mail vote. he won by more than 20 points. gibbs has been winning by double digits with the same day vote. and it looks like especially and ty county, where is grand rapids's, the same day vote has been counted up here kind of late, and has been boosting gibbs, and is now moved ahead by 1500 votes. i'm just gonna take a look here, at exactly where karen county stands. this is meyer's base. this is the biggest part of the district, and now peter meijer is about even in that district. meyer needs to be winning cannes county. he needs to be winning it by a couple points.
and is the problem is that same day vote for him and cannes county has just not been there. it allowed gets to take up and can't as a lot him to take a districtwide. so meijer looks like he's gonna come close, a lot of folks thought he was gonna get wiped out. but it might be tough for meijer to make up that difference. >> for democrats, this is an interesting race to watch because a lot of people would say that a meijer is a were puke of donald trump. on the other hand, meijer for mainstream viewers, might be more electable that gives in the long term. so it's not clear what some people want to happen with peter meijer. >> the other interesting story is that democrats waited into this race. they spent big money trying to promote gibbs with republicans. the theory their theory being hey. get kids nominated for redistricting in michigan, change the third district, make it winnable for democrats. democrats are saying, we can beat gibbs, meyer is saying hey,
look, you are seeing gibbs as a threat to democracy. you are saying that people that back trump's claims by the 2020 election our threat to democracy. why are you spending hundreds of thousand dollars trying to get them nominated? he can go away in an office. you had a role in that. so it's a tricky one. if gibbs wins this thing by 1500 votes after the democrats. >> there may be democrats who were involved in his victory. >> it's a very interesting story. >> it's a ploy unless he becomes the member of congress. >> yeah. you look at the nature of this district. potential the nature of 2022. he might be less electable then meijer, but i wouldn't say in a year like 2022 in a district in michigan, he is unelectable. it's very possible he could. when. we are gonna >> watch it closely, we are still watching the fallout from what's happening in kansas. also even though we don't have poll results out of arizona, we're gonna get more information over the course of the next hour. you and i spent a lot time together. thank you as always, the kornacki, by the, way where in the same, room as you, know how it, is steve shouts, does hansen, knows and that's us know if he's got anything else.
i want to bring into, miller writer at large with bulwark. msnbc political analyst. he is also the author of why we did. it a travel law from the republican wrote to help. maria teresa kumar is the founding president of voter latino and an msnbc contributor and personally very grateful to her because she often system for me when i have to be on the road. so i appreciate that. -- is the founder of the progressive research communications firm, a s o, communications, as jonathan alter author and msnbc political analyst with the institutional memory about politics that is unmatched by anyone else. thank you to all of you this evening. tim, let me start with you, because i sort of want to try to make sense of how people are thinking about both arizona, which is sort of ground zero for, hey let's let dismantle democracy. and this gives, peter meijer thing in michigan. which is like steve said, confusing to some democrats. because some democrats want the
more extreme trump backed republican to win the primary so that he loses the election. but they really think that they said the twice, rather happier myers. what are you making of what you have seen so far? >> yeah, they see having. we i was on the last hour. maybe a little bit bullish on the democracy candidates in some of these races. we'll see even in the last, hour gibbs as kornacki just talked about, has taken the lead, in that race. i'm not so sure that robeson is in great shape there, obviously she is winning, there's a big gap, but we see what happens in this election day vote. michigan, same thing could happen in arizona where like could catch up. that is something to keep an eye on. which you have here and the michigan race i think is a more clear cut situation. in my or might not be on the issues that liberals cup of tea. but he voted to impeach the president. he has been very clear about that. he has not at all played footsie with the conspiracy about the election. gibbs on the other hand has. and i think kornacki is right.
look, i didn't love the strategy and the democrats to boost gives in this race. we don't know what things will look like in 2024. we don't want a house at a senate chamber made up of people that would be willing to overturn the election eight donald trump ran again and lost again. and so i think it's concerning that somebody like gibbs could get it. even more concerning would be carry lake in arizona. so i don't know want to compliment carrie robson at all. she has played puts in -- but she is not anything like carey like, who has promised to not certify the next election. and who has said that she would try to certify the 2020 election. having carey like in arizona and doug mastriano in pennsylvania, would be a disaster. it would be a threat to democracy. so i think that is very interesting to watch. it's kind of bad versus very very existentially bad. in that arizona race. so i think we will see how that -- >> they were drawing that line because they're much out of the who is the republican governor for pennsylvania, went to arizona to watch how they did this election audit which by
the way for all the efforts and all the grift involved, still couldn't find donald trump a victory in arizona. but there are birds of a feather. if you are concerned about democracy, it's worth watching. thank you. tim marie teresa, what is your view on what is happening tonight? i will, say kansas which we are gonna talk a little bit more later, as soon as we are just a couple of levels. the turnout, the number of people who turned out to vote and a primary election in kansas, kornacki was telling the numbers that sounded like they were almost double what you normally expect. >> so you hit the nail on the head, ali. what's interesting about kansas is that if you look at the results, it looks like roughly about 300,000 republicans that cast ballots, for the gubernatorial side, you saw an additional roughly 80,000 of them who actually voted for the, to support the abortion issue in kansas. and that's huge. because it's saying that republicans are willing to go
to the ballot, still vote for the republican candidate, but support abortion. and one of the reasons why this was put on primary, why this ballot was initiated put on primary is because they weren't expecting turnout. and that was actually the opposite effect that it had. it drew about turnout. the other thing that i am seeing which is also interesting is that arizona is also seeing record level turn of. something again that we haven't seen in normally don't see in the midterms. they last time we saw this high of interest in primaries was in 2018, but that was where. we have been following the elections of the latino now from the very beginning. since january. people were not paying attention. but this could actually be a strategy for a lot of the progresses, and for a lot of the democrats to all not only did abortion, but also that recognize democracy is on the ball and they will continue to continue to turn out. this is reading those tallies, ali, saying that those midterms for the, for november is gonna
be closer than to be expected. >> i'm glad that people think democracies on the ballot. that's always a good discussion and an appointed discussion to be having. maybe democrats or republicans are watching, maybe abortion should be on the ballot. maybe we got what we got out of the supreme court, we got through three supreme court justice. maybe nobody should say the word abortion, or no republicans to say the word abortion between now and election day, given what we just on kansas. where, i don't know how to describe, because the question was placed so weirdly on that referendum. but people who wanted to preserve abortion rights have voted well disproportionately higher than they voted typically for democrats. >> that's -- >> what was interesting -- >> my politics. -- no worries >> i'll get to it, cannot go ahead and not. >> my apologies, i thought he was addressing the. i think that the common thread
is, and essentially once you open pandora's box, i would say that you can't put it away, they may not want to talk about abortion but boy howdy are we gonna be talking about it and the through line here between essentially conscious of how much interaction would you like in your political party a little or a lot the through line between that, and the abortion issue, is freedom. and not for nothing, was the no campaign called constitutional freedom. because essentially, the argument going down right now is do you want in essence, an authoritarian factor that wants to take away your freedoms from the most essential freedom to vote? and to decide for ourselves who governs in our name? to the freedom to decide who was the happen of our bodies, our futures, our families, and that's nothing short of what is on the ballot. and we see in both cases, that voters are weary of that. of the taking away of that freedom. and in so far as democrats make
it compelling case. that they are here to protect our freedoms. and compelling case, and there's plenty of evidence available. that republicans want to take away those freedoms. i think that we have a mobilizing and persuasive message for voters. >> jonathan alter, we look at missouri, kansas, michigan, arizona, washington state, a lot of places tonight, each of which tell a different story. peter meijer in michigan is one of three candidates tonight, through republican support primary election. who voted to impeach donald trump. tim miller makes the point they are not liberals. these are not people who are not conservatives. they just did something there that may cost them an election up against trump candidates. kansas got the abortion issue, arizona's got the election legitimacy issue, and also the things going on. take a nationally of all your experience, what do you make of what you have seen so far tonight? >> only i think the big news is
twice quake. this issue is going to be huge and the election. if in a state like kansas, those who favor abortion rights came out in such numbers, and won by way more than expected, i mean by some post they were expected to lose narrowly. it was a blowout! and this sends a big message nationally to democrats. now the red wave theory was already in tatters in the last couple of weeks if you look closely at the polling data. it's clearly gonna be a very competitive election. in the fall. there is no red way. that is history. but what we don't know is how much of a role abortion is going to play tonight, and tonight could be an indication that's gonna play a very large role. even if it's part pretty far
down on the list of care about well below their economy. it will relates and i major way to turn out. and if the turnout is closer to 2018. when the democrats but did really well. then 2014, the midterm before that, when democrats did poorly, the democrats will do much better than expected again. and it's even possible that this could be a 2002 type election. and by that i mean, 2002 and 1934 are the only two elections, midterm elections, and the last 100 years where the party controlling the white house efforts, for the first two years, gained seats. and so it is possible, now it's considered likely that the democrats will gain seats in the senate. and it is increasingly possible
that they will hold the house. in 2002, just to remind people, the economy was not very good but 9/11 pushed the economy into a secondary category that became kind of a 9/11 election. which worked to president bush's advantage. this, even though he wasn't all that popular on the economy. this could be a similar kind of thing where, voting is for congress, decoupled, from biden's low approval ratings, and you see a democratic victory. >> i'm surprised you brought up that 1930, for the midterm elections, because you were so small that. i'm surprised you remembered. >> stick around, we have a lot of things to discuss, especially tense ports in the beginning that we do not have said all right now, after midnight on the east, it's whether the trump backed candidate have won or lost tonight. it's bit of a mixed bag.
still more to come. i'm coming back to all four of. you before i go to a quick break, show you this again, this is the third district and michigan. 95% and although steve kornacki knows this better than i do about why we sometimes take this with a grain of salt. but gibbs is the trump backed republican candidate, is the head of the incumbent, peter meijer bay now. we are watching this one very closely, it's a very close race. but peter meijer did vote to impeach donald trump. we are gonna be right back after this, we will continue the coverage. the coverage new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today.
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abortion and kansas was the first of its kind in an america where roe v. wade has been overturned. effectively, voters were being asked whether they wanted to remove protections to abortion rights from the kansas state constitution. as ballot measures off and are, the language in this one was confusing. voting yes met the constitution to change an abortion rights would no longer be protected. given the power to restrict abortion access to the kansas state legislature. voting and no meant the constitution should remain the same and abortion rights should remain protected. and then no bose won. according to our nbc news production which means kansas
voters decided to protect the right to an abortion. covering this for us tonight from kansas city is my colleague, chris jansing, chris, their words scat pulling on. this wasn't clear, looked like no might have had a small edge just beyond the margin of error. nobody or a lot of people were not expecting this particular result. >> i think it's closer to nobody. suddenly nobody i talked. do i just got a new number and and it gives you a sense of how unexpected this is. and johnson county, just ten miles down the road from where i'm standing, it's right on the border with missouri, the largest county in the state. the turnout on 100 a great day, in the middle of summer, was 53%. historically high. they've never seen anything like this. this is barack obama's numbers. the way the secretary of state put it. incredibly high turnout in fact, there was still so many people in line, in so many places, as
polls were closing, the secretary of state actually sent out tweets saying, stay in line, don't go anywhere, you can still vote. there were signs, there were signs from the very day that the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, because in kansas, registration went up 1000 percent. that wasn't the only indication. the number of unaffiliated voters, which by the way, it's higher than democratic voters here in kansas. they have been going up while republican registration has been inching down. and typically, you wouldn't see unaffiliated voters going out for where these elections because they can't vote for republicans and democrats. they can't vote for candidates. but there was so much attention being paid to this abortion issue, to the tune ali, of $12 million. $6 million on each side in a state where there are fewer than 2 million registered voters. so when a lot of people have been asking the question, how much of a motivator would this
be in this election? the answer obviously is huge. obviously huge! and as one person put it to me, this is just the start, i'm gonna quote, it's gonna be a major issue in every election for the foreseeable future. so ali, much more to come. >> twice quake is what jonathan alter called it. chris, good to see you my friend. our paths don't cross like this all that much, we see each other in the field, business astute there. chris johnson, of course with us in kansas city. joining us now is democratic congressman -- of kansas, who remains the only democrat in the kansas state congressional delegation to washington. congresswoman, good to see you, thank you for being with us tonight. >> it's good to see you too, thanks for having me. >> i want to just point out something that christine dancing, chris jackson was talking about. shock about johnson county. in kansas. johnson county is right, here basically a suburb of kansas
city. it's big, it's highly populous, we got what we think to be most of the votes in, about 95%. the nova's almost 60, above 68%. the yes vote is 31%. now when you compare that to how donald trump and joe biden did in the state, it's 15 points better than joe biden dead. and it's 12 points lower than donald trump did. this is the steve kornacki math that makes it all very interesting. people came out to vote and how to protect abortion rights in kansas. at rates much higher than they vote for democrats and kansas. >> yeah, well i think, first of, all i have to say this. this is a win for kansans. this is a win for our families and our rights. and tonight, i would say what you saw is what you are seeing as the numbers and getting close to seeing all the numbers but they are not all in yet.
what we saw was kansans saying we are going to reject extremism. we are going to protect all kansans ability to make their own choices about their health care. their access to reproductive health care, who the government interference. and i think this is a broad, diverse coalition of folks that came together to make that statement tonight. so it's an interesting point you're making that this is not some kind of left push or liberal push. this could actually appeal to conservatives, the idea that your constitution protects certain rights in the state of kansas and lots of people, 60% of kansans voter tonight saying we like to the country's constitution to protect certain rights were not interested in the government getting involved in taking away right the way that we already have. >> right. here's the thing.
when i say a broad, diverse coalition of folks came together, i mean that we had people across the aisle. you heard just a few moments ago about the number of unaffiliated voters that we have here in kansas. kansans do not want politicians, they do not want the government telling us what we can or cannot do when it comes to accessing reproductive health services. i think that what we are seeing is that that path forward, particularly for kansans as one that goes through the middle. this is not a far extreme position and i think politicians who think that that is what is going to get them a win in november are sorely mistaken. >> congressman, good to see you
as always good to see you, one day will be able to not just talk about politics, but we'll to talk about arts but, for now politics. >> can i say -- can i tell you how much work went into this? it's the same thing that happens in an mma fight. he can't stop until the bell rings and that's with the folks in kansas. did >> good to see you, sherisse cherice david is a congresswoman democrat from kansas. >> former governor of kansas, governor good to see you thank you for being with us. i want to get your reaction to this, because literally everyone i've talked to and there's lots of things to react to across the country, everyone is fascinated by this particular result in the kansas subversion rights question. >> well ali, it's good to see you and it's terrific to have a chance to share the stage with
the wonderful cherice david. she's a fabulous member of our delegation and does a great job. this is about kansas and we are a state which came into the union as a free state founded by abolitionists who came to make sure there was a free state west of the mississippi. those folks are who wrote the constitution at the end of the day when the dobbs decision took away from the federal constitutional protection on women's reproductive rights and made it clear that it was up to the state, kansans said we are not going to let the legislators make decisions for us. our constitution is strong. we have stronger language that in the 14th amendment in the kansas constitution and they voted overwhelmingly -- as i like to say, kansas not
only voted no, they voted hell no change not to charge a constitution. >> it's a recipe for the rest of the country? that there are lot of people who want to protect reproductive rights of saying this is a great idea why don't we do this in our states? >> first of all i think it should encourage people not to shy away from a frank discussion about what the republican party has adopted. they've adopted a very radical agenda that says, we are going to strip away rights from women, we are going to make health care decisions on behalf of women, we are going to have forced pregnancies and forced births. it doesn't matter the way they get pregnant, it doesn't matter their age, it doesn't matter their capability, we know better. and i think for a lot of individuals in the state, republicans, democrats, independents, they say no. we trust women to make wise
decisions for themselves with their own pastors and priests and rabbis, with their own partners, with their own physicians. and kansas had an opportunity to weigh in very strongly. should you let the state legislator decide your fate or should you trust the constitution? i think hansen said overwhelmingly, we trust the constitution. >> and do you feel confident that in many places across the country, there are people who would otherwise cast a ballot for a conservative in days gone by the said this abortion stuff, the overturning of roe v. wade, the dobbs ruling is a bridge too far when it comes to my rights. i'm voting this time on my rights. jonathan alter made a point that we think it's just the economy. guys like me who are business journalists like to think its economy all the time. tonight says it might not be the economy. >> well, i think ali what we have seen is that in the past
50 years with a national constitutional constitution that a lot of us frankly took for granted over time that set abortions are on the ballot, it's important have reproductive choice but people say these are the issues facing me. once dobbs occurred, once a supreme court ruled at the end of june that there is no federal protection, that we are going to turn it all over the states, and then we watch the states strip rights away from women across the country, i think it sounded an alarm bell, and a lot of people are saying wait a minute, this is very real. this is about me, this is about my child, my grandchild, i really am going to take back control over my own rights and my own health and that's what happened in kansas tonight. >> catherine chameleon that's good to see you, kathleen is the former governor of the
state of kansas. coming up next, we're gonna go to live to the state of arizona, checking in the campaigns of the two of the trumpian by candidates on the ballot tonight. that's next. stay with us. ay with us ever leave your clothes in the dryer and find a wrinkled mess? try downy wrinkle guard fabric softener! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft, wrinkles don't want to stick around. make mornings smoother with downy wrinkle guard fabric softener.
it's paid for by the out of state gambling corporations that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. lot of states we are watching they wrote it for themselves. tonight. we're just talking about kansas, earlier we're talking about arizona. we are still watching the results in arizona come in.
a lot of the controversy leading up tonight's primary vote in arizona has been around the trump backed candidate kari lake one-time television news on anchor turned goober notorious candidate. here's her with the former president 12 days ago. >> for the record i do believe that superman is coming back and hopefully he's coming back soon. >> all right. there's a lot to kari lake a lot of layers to her. we have somebody carrying this story for a while. i kari lake headquarters is vaughn hillyard. you've had some remarkable conversations with the candidate. where we stand first with the results. kari lake not performing as strongly the last hours we expected. >> right i think this is the question that you have talked about.
folks dropped off their ballots how many folks dropped off their ballots or voted in person. we have no idea. we know there is an overwhelming turnout but i am in touch with both candidates there long to question marks. she had to be taylor robson had to be contempt competitive and now we're starting to get the results not only tonight but tomorrow the next day among those voters who turned in bouts or folded in person. we are starting to get some results. mark finchem is currently ahead. those two individuals like terry lake have also called for the certification of the 2020 election. they look like they're on their way to victory, and just heart to mark finchem ali and i put the question to him and i said is your election fair? and he said, we will have to
see, what comes out here in the hours ahead, because that's where it's complicated. if suddenly, mark finchem winds but carrie lake is on the brink of not winning what does that conversation look like? because we know that carry lake has already thrown out unfounded claims her and specific claims abroad that she has not been able to backup, will they ultimately come to her defense if she loses? >> but even that von, think she might be accusing you throwing the election. want to show the viewers just we've been talking about. this is the arizona attorney general race where hamid and the trump backed candidate is the spread here is 46 votes. look at the secretary of state election again. finchem ahead with only a quarter of the votes ahead by 183 votes. take a quick look at the
governor vote race right now for the republican nominee taylor robson separating 44 votes separating taylor robson a lake. when his phone was saying we're not gonna get a ton of these votes today. more of them are coming in tomorrow. anyone who's submitted mail votes they are not getting counted today. this race is tighter than it was expected to be. vaughn hillyard thank you for that. and not to be outdone, the republican -- he's been sureties a maga message in his own campaign ads. >> >> psychopath are running the psychopaths are running the country right now. country right now. you've got you've got a biden, biden, pelosi, pelosi, chuck schumer, chuck schumer, mark mark kelly. kelly. this is this is an an invasion. invasion. we know we know what to do. what to do. we need to we finish trump's need to finish wall. we trump's wall. need five times more we need five times border control. more border and we patrol, and we need need technology to technology to lock walk this
border this border down. down. if we don't if we don't do these do these things right now things right now,. we are not gonna have we're not gonna have a country a country. >> and i just want. >> i want to to point out to you point out, here we have the same we have the same situation, this situation. this is is the senate the senate republican nomination, republican only 25% nomination. only of the vote is in right 25% of the now. voters in right now. masters, masters is winning is wedding but but he's ahead by winning by 111 votes. 100 save to asian same situation across i was gonna we across arizona. let's go to got here kapoor senior national political nbc reporter. he is athletic master's senior reporter campaign, headquarters is at blake masters campaign tonight, what are they doing headquarters tonight. with this what are they doing with this information so hail information because we are trying to sort of sill? establish whether or not these trump we are trying to establish candidates are winning and whether these trump backed candidates are i was on or not? winning in arizona and by now the or not. numbers are too close right now the numbers are too to tell. >> hallie, close to call. >> hey hallie, while it is looking bullock is looking like it's going to be a long like it's going to be night here and the a long night in the republican republican senate senate race in race in arizona. arizona. like like masks currently has masters currently has a lead of a lead or four points over his four points or where they're nearest rival. nearest rival. that's now that's not not enough to put it enough away necessarily when there is still more about 40%. 40%.
>> at least a pass tonight as more and more votes and of course be a test of donald trump power to push these candidates in the finish. line like matter seems to be doing better than carry like. probably because it was more a crowded field. and that one third of top trump supporters not enough. a lot of stake here ali. of course the winner of this bet on the republican side is going to take on the democratic incumbent, mark kelly, who cruised to renomination on a post, and this is gonna be one of the most hotly contested senate races, and it could of course determine control of the chamber. look, there's been a ton to talk tonight about that abortion vote in kansas. that matters in this race to because congress would have the power. or does have the power i should say, now that roe v. wade is gone to an axe federal boyden restrictions with like masters running on an anti abortion platform. mark kelly supports it. the likely contest here could make a big difference on abortion ali.
>> so hill, thank you for your reporting. it's gonna be a long night for you and for ivan, and for everybody following this race and arizona. so he'll compel for us at the black masters campaign. we are back with more from our panel right after this break. after this break a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide hygenic clean free. it's gentle on her skin and out-cleans our old free detergent. tide hygenic clean free. hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. i went back living proof as to
same except i was giving you a county as opposed to the statewide numbers. i want to quickly run through them this was the arizona statewide attorney general race for republicans. same thing, how muddy is in the lead roughly 28 to 24%. secretary of state finchem also like how monday, trump at candidate in the league. 36% to 25%, 54, 55%, of the vote is in right now, and in the governor race for the republicans, taylor robeson is in the league, almost 48, 49% to 40% with lake, from 60%, again expecting let's never make it better through the course of the next 24 hours as more votes comes in. about 65% of the statewide numbers are in. same thing, nobody's position has changed. the numbers are just a little bit different. i wanna bring our panel back with us. tim miller, marissa teresa, -- and jonathan alter.
tim, let's take it from you. we have a look at this over the course over the last hour and the last several hours. the eye was on a set that we were just talking about is a little bit of a pause. we are not quite sure how this is unfolding and what you call a win tonight. yeah, a lot of pause. the maga ticket putting lake assigned the trump ticket is in the lead, before the election day vote comes in and that senate attorney general, and obviously very important secretary of state race. also would play a key word on certifying the next election. if you look at the lake race, at the top of the ticket, she is losing right now, but i think there is good reason to believe that is going to narrow, if you go over to michigan. every time i come back on, new update in michigan, gibbs, maga candidate, is widening his late overmyer. the congressman that's voted to impeach donald trump. that same thing could happen in arizona for like. we don't know yet. but even if robson wins, the
election deniers have seemed to be in good position, not have one, but seem to be in good position to win for those other three positions there in arizona. another thing to note in washington, which has a different system, a top two primary. both jamie harrah butler, and dan new house who voted to impeach trump, they also are looking pretty good. which speaks get to a top two primary system versus a partisan primary. because all of the republicans who voted to impeach trump or in a partisan primary hapless, and meijer was like he might be heading that. way >> 99% they say out that number in right now. we are looking at the three district and michigan, gibbs has 53.1% of the vote, to meyers, 46 point -- a difference about higher than the 5000 votes. i'm not what do you make of it? >> i think what voters are understanding, first of, all fsoc about the basic asymmetry of participation between the
republican primary and the democratic party. something i think most casualties may not be aware of, and that is that in general participants in a prime area on the republican side tend toward the more right right extremist wink. where as democratic voters, who are in a primary tend towards a more centrist position. that is a basic asymmetry. what you are seeing called out in primary voters on the republican side are the kind of true believers in this trump ideology. it's little wonder that with exceptions as noted, that is what is taken today. i think at this point, for most of these candidates, it's either a lot or a little bit of trumpism. all of them are embracing to some degree. >> thanks to you, you folks, maria teresa kumar, and jonathan, i'm gonna talk to on the other side of this break. thanks to you ten and two anat
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