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tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. president biden and vice president kamala harris will speak at the capitol exactly one year after donald trump's supporters attacked and invaded the capitol in an insurrection hoping to hold the presidency illegally for donald trump. that is tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour" starts now. good evening once again. i'm ali velshi. day 351 of the biden administration. just under an hour from now it will be exactly one year from the day we all watched in realtime as a mob marched to the
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capitol, launched a siege on the building and then tried to stop the duly elected president from being formally declared the winner of the election. it was a scene most of us could never imagine happening in america. earlier today one of the capitol police officers who took the brunt of the attacks from supporters of donald trump summed up where things stand a year later. >> it's hard to believe that it's been a year, but here we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened. >> both president biden and vice president harris will speak to the nation tomorrow. this afternoon the white house gave us a preview of biden's remarks. >> expect president biden will lay out the significance of what happened at the capitol and the singular responsibility president trump has for the chaos and carnage that we saw. and he'll forcefully push back on the lies spread by the former president in an attempt to mislead the american people and his own supporters as well as distract from his role and what happened.
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>> democratic members of congress will also mark the anniversary of the insurrection with several events on capitol hill. republican leaders are not expected to take part. the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell and a bipartisan group of senators made up mostly of republicans plan to travel to atlanta to attend the funeral of the late senator johnny isaacson, senate minority leader, of course. marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz will weigh in with their own views of january 6th with what they're calling a, quote, republican response. meanwhile demands for accountability with regard to the capitol riot are growing louder, and they're being increasingly directed to the biden justice department. as "the new york times" asks, quote, will the justice department move beyond charging the rioters themselves? today the attorney general, merrick garland, tried to respond to the mounting pressure on his department. during his speech garland gave something of an update on the
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ongoing criminal investigation into the riot and noted that more than 700 people have been arrested and charged. he then vowed to pursue everyone who might have been involved in the insurrection. >> the justice department remains committed to holding all january 6th perpetrators at any level accountable under law whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. we will follow the facts wherever they lead. as long as it takes and whatever it takes for justice to be done consistent with the facts and the law. i understand that this may not be the answer some are looking for, but we will and we must speak through our work. >> now, one member of the january 6th select committee says he's concerned about what
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attorney general garland didn't say. >> what was left unsaid, anderson, though, is what about the role of those involved not just on the 6th but in the days leading up to the 6th and the aftermath of the 6th who may have broken the law? what comes to mind to me is the efforts of the former president to get the secretary of state of georgia to essentially fined 11,870 of those that don't exist. i don't believe those can be left to a local district attorney's office. >> meanwhile a new report from axios says people associated with former vice president mike pence are helping the january 6th committee. the piece says they have, quote, been particularly cooperative as the january 6th select committee focuses on what former president trump was doing during the more than three hours hat the capitol was under attack. earlier today the panel did meet with former trump white house
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press secretary stephanie grisham. she served asthma lawnia trump's press secretary at the time of the riot. grisham says she plans to continue cooperating with the committee. one of the two republican members on the january 6th committee says they're also getting critical information from many former white house aides without having to resort subpoenas. >> let's say we never talked to president trump or we never talked to, you know, any high profile individual, we're going to have people all that have a piece of that story, a slice of different moments in time that we can put together into the bigger picture. as we know how investigations go, you know, you put those pieces together and then you move up the ladder. that's what we're doing, and i think you're going to have continued cooperation by a significant number of people. >> with that let's bring in our lead off guests on this wednesday night. yamiche alcindor the white house correspondent for the pbs news hour and moderator of washington week. also on pbs jonathan carl is the
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chief washington correspondent for the abc news, author of the new york times best-seller, betrayal, the final act of the trump show. and katie benner is the justice reporter for "the new york times." the white house has given us a bit of a preview. they say he's going to lay the blame for january 6th squarely at donald trump's feet, but this is a tough line for the president who got elected. he ran and got elected on the idea he was going to be a unifier of sorts. >> that's right, ali. but when it comes to january 6th president biden has always been crystal clear that he saw the attack on the capitol as a stain on our democracy. he sees it as a real threat to american democracy, and he's always said that the people who were responsible should be held accountable. he's been very clear he wants to be independent of the department of justice's investigation. but we can expect that tomorrow on the anniversary of this terrible day where we saw white supremacists and all sorts of
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hate groups and all sorts of people fueled by the lie fed to them by the former president trump that he is going to -- president biden is going to be very forceful in his words and very much marking the moment and marking the solemnness of this moment in our history. this is a moment where american democracy was almost brought to its knees. and this is a white house that has been very clear not only in words but in action those people need to be held accountable. we, of course, know president biden has waived executive privilege for much of the documents being sought by the january 6th investigation and committee. and that's going to be something he's going to be i think absolutely clear-eyed about tomorrow. tomorrow is going to be an emotional speech i'm told. but also marking the day and reminding people this was not a tourist visit, not a sort of protest gone wrong. this was one of the darkest days in american history, and we expect the president to say just that. >> not a tourist visit indeed. katie benner, you and i have had this conversation a number of
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times. he said we will pursue this investigation wherever it goes for as long as it takes. and there are a lot of people very frustrated with the as long as it takes part. you pointed out proper investigations, legal investigations do take time. the last four years of the trump administration gave us a sense everything doesn't work right. what merrick garland said today is going to sound unsatisfying to a lot of people. >> first of all, investigations, they take a long time. this is not something going to happen quickly. second of all, the reality is the justice department if it is to bring any case against the former president or anyone working in the white house, any former official, they need to be iron clad. they need to have very, very, strong evidence not because it needs to get through a district court and a jury but also the appeals court in washington, d.c. and the supreme court court. nobody knows the players in both
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the appeals court in washington or the supreme court than merrick garland. and he knows this is not a place to bring novel legal theories, not taplace to take risks because judges will reject it. keep in mind it is the courts that's already expanded the power of the presidency. it is the courts that's expanded the power of the executive branch. so any robust investigation will start to chip away at the privileges the courts have already brought and then have to convince juries and courts that this is a prosecution that's winnable. this is a much higher bar than we saw in either of donald trump's impeachments, which, keep in mind while the president was impeached he was not ultimately convicted and removed. and this is much higher than that. even though garland said in his speech today we're not foreclosing investigations into the president, we're not foreclosing investigations into his allies, we still have to meet evdenchary standards which
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take a long time to meet. >> you write in your book about the last days of the trump administration. and you've written in a commentary this week about what would have happened if just little things were different by a matter of degrees on january 6th last year including if the vice president of the united states at the time, mike pence, had decided to go with what donald trump and his cronies were planning, had decided to simply announce while he was in congress that he was not certifying the election in favor of joe biden. >> and mike pence is somebody who had been supremely loyal to donald trump. i mean, he stood by him after charlottesville, even during the 2016 campaign. he didn't utter a peep of criticism after the "access hollywood" tape came out. he had never stood up to donald trump. he had never challenged him once in public, and there's little evidence he had done so in private either.
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but on this moment he was disloyal at precisely the right time. and what i wrote about today is although the record is pretty clear if you talk from constitutional scholars from the left to the right, basically anybody who wasn't immediately around donald trump in the days before january 6th, they will say that pence did not have the authority to single-handedly throw out joe biden's election victory. he didn't have the authority to throw out those electoral votes. i mean, it's kind of insane to think he did, that one person could effectively choose the president of the united states. but here's the question i explore today, and i talked to michael luding is one of the most prominent and well respected conservative jurists, former appellate judge, former head of the office of legal council at the justice department under the first george bush. he said that, look, while it's clear -- and he advised pence.
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he said he advised pence not to do it, he had no choice but to simply count the votes as they were opened. he said while pence had no authority to do otherwise, it's unclear who would have had the authority to stop him if he had done it. and luddig argues we would have been in a state of maximum chaos, that it's not even clear the supreme court had the authority to take up that question. and this could have been the moment we wouldn't have known who the president was. >> right. that was the question swirling around everybody's minds around all sorts of issues including what happens if donald trump doesn't leave the white house? people knew that he had to, but the question is who actually removes him? what does the military do? luddig made an interesting point this probably would have been worked out over time, but in that time we would have been in an actual constitutional crisis, an important thing for people to remember. yamiche, a year ago in the days following january 6th republicans and democrats seemed
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to generally speaking agree what happened was bad and should never happen again. many of them were prepared to blame donald trump for it. tomorrow republicans will not be participating in any of the formal remembrance exercises of what happened last year. >> and ali, it's one of the starkest things that happened after january 6th. at the beginning of january 6th when we -- when the capitol had been broken into, when i was hearing from sources that everyone from house speaker -- house minority leader kevin mccarthy had been calling the president, telling him he needed to say something, telling him this was wrong when i was chronicling the resignations of so many white house officials who before january 6th had stuck by the president through all sorts of mayhem, there was a sense the republican party was going to move away from trump. what we saw, in fact, former president trump really strengthen his grip on the party. by doing that he was able to metastasize this lie and spread it throughout the gop. and really now it's become this
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litmus test of whether or not you're a true conservative, whether or not you believe the election lie. in some states now across the country that's how you're going to get elected to local officials. that's how you're going to get elected to different positions across this country. what we've seen here is a complete 180, republicans, even establishment republicans, people who talked about the constitution before january 6th, talked about the wrongness of former president trump after january 6th, they've all sort of fallen in line because they all want to keep hold of power based on the sources i talked to. and they're all focused making sure they stay in the former president's good graces. and this to me when i talk to experts is how, frankly, democracies die, when you have someone like president trump who he is spreading misinformation and lies. and there are people who are supposed to be the checks and balances, those sort of establishment figures that have
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been elected, that they don't stand up to that person, that's when things get really dicy. we've seen in the last year dozens of laws being passed by gop lawmakers restricting the right to vote all based on this lie. when you talk to immigrants who have immigrated to america because they wanted a stable american democracy fleeing places like venezuela and belarus, they say this is what they've seen in their own country. this is absolutely the thing we continue to talk about because it's a slow january 6th happening in different states. >> katie, we heard from the chief of the u.s. capitol police about the increasing threats against congress. we heard about increasing threats to members of congress. we've heard tonight about sort of rumblings though nothing specific about threats -- about things that could happen tomorrow. what's the federal government and the justice department and the fbi stance now on dealing with threats like this? and how do they think about them
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differently than they did prior to january 6th? >> sure. so internally the justice department, the fbi, the department of homeland security, the agencies are taking very seriously threats against the capitol leading up to january 6th and tomorrow. they're also taking very serious threats against lawmakers. and i want to emphasize it's not those threats were not taken seriously during the trump administration, but i've spoken with people in the fbi and dhs, researchers, law enforcement officials who said every time the former president spoke about somebody we did not like whether that was former justice department officials like rob rosenstein and jeff sessions, the former attorney general, whether that was opponents in congress, anytime he named somebody he did not like, the increase -- the spike in threats against him was huge. it's almost like they were under a wash of threats so constant it was really hard to keep up with the flow. obviously we are in a different political time right now.
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so, again, threats are taken seriously. it's just a very different tone and tenor of threats. so that is what's happening. second of all, we are definitely seeing the justice department try to address the idea of threats. we saw that in the attorney general's speech today. merrick garland said very clearly despite the fact we've seen startling polling that many americans -- not the majority but still many believe that violence is an answer to political conflict, attorney general garland said that is actually not the answer. we cannot think that way. but as a demachyeracy as the united states begins to unravel we have to have a hard, bright line against political violence. >> jonathan carl, the january 6th committee is looking at people at trump's inner circle and trying to get information from them about basically what happened right from the election all the way to january 6th. how does that materialize in your opinion? are there going to be -- are these people who come and participate in public hearings? what will it end up -- what
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effect will it end up having? >> the case they're trying to make is the january 6th, and it's called the january 6th committee, but january 6th was about more than the riot that day. it was more than the attacks on the building, on the police officers. all of the mayhem we saw it was about the effort to overturn the election. and that began immediately after the election. it began on election night when donald trump went out into the east room and said that he had won an election that he had actually lost. so they are going to be going through, and they want to establish first and foremost what he was saying about the election was a lie. and, you know, we all know that. we've read it. we've seen the audits that were done in georgia. we saw the senate republicans in michigan do their investigation. we saw even the cyber ninjas have come up with no evidence in arizona. but i think what you will see is high profile members of the president's inner circle thought
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what he was saying was flatly wrong say it in public. i think one of the people they would like to see testify in public in prime time would be former attorney general bill barr who told me in the interview for "betrayal" that it was all b.s., there was nothing to it. there was nothing to what trump was saying. and he actually went investigated those allegations in all those contested states and came back and told the president directly there was nothing to it. and trump went on and continued to try to overturn the election. >> he was -- he was not dissuaded. thanks to all three of you for helping us out tonight. yamiche alcindor, jonathan carl, and katie benner who herself is pulitzer prizewinner. coming up, they told the truth then. why can't they say it now? some key republicans called it like we saw it in the days after january 6th, but now not so much. our friends are here to compare and contrast. and later you might think you're fully vaccinated but given recent guidance on boosters you might be unclear as
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the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress. >> president trump is responsible for provoking the events. >> the president's language and rhetoric crossed a line, and it was reckless. >> the president needs to understand that his actions were the problem not the solution. >> this is the cost of telling thousands of people that there is a legitimate shot of overturning the election. >> in the year since the attack on the capitol, the vast majority of republicans have refused to condemn the former president or the actions that led to the uprising. "the new york times" with this headline tonight. trump's hold on the gop is unrivalled.
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quote, his rehabilitation to the extent one was even needed among republicans is the latest example of an enduring lesson of his tumultuous time in politics, that mr. trump can outlast almost any outrage cycle no matter how intensely burns. the spotlight shifts, the furor fades, then he rewrites history, end quote. with us tonight eugene robinson, pulitzer prizewinning columnist for "the washington post." and bill kristol, a veteran of the reagan and bush administrations and the editor at large at the bulwark. and you're also involved with the group that put this ad together. it's running on conservative networks, in fact. the target of those ads or that ad is not democrats. it's republicans. it's people who might be reminded what right looks like. >> yeah, that's right. i'm proud to be part of the group that did this ad. our video genius put it together. i think it's very compact and crisp and makes a point.
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and the point is before they could look at the polls, once again people reacted in realtime to what happened. you know how it is. when something happens you have that first reaction before you think which is the honest reaction, and then you spend weeks, months, you know, years sort of papering that over. the republican party has spent a year papering it over and distorting it, but i think it's important to help some republicans at least. and then, secondly, why is the party denying it now? well, the reason they're denying it now is because they're terrified of trump. it's trump's party. and by denying it now they're emboldened efforts to steal elections and distort elections and foster this big lie which weakens our democracy going forward. so i hope this ad can be a tiny
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part of much bigger efforts -- the biggest thing now is the january 6th committee to really bring home the truth of what happened. >> there are a lot of republicans or some republicans who say it happened, it was bad. you wrote this in a column. in order to save our democracy there needs to be a reckoning about january 6th. what do you mean by that? what does a real reckoning look like? >> it means finding out exactly what happened, how it was planned, how it was organized, how it was funded, how it was directed and how it happened. so all the work that the january 6th committee is doing has to be done. at the same time the -- the justice department has to continue with prosecutions of the insurrectionists who committed these violent acts at the capitol, assaulted police
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officers and defiled the capitol, breaking tons of laws in the process. and has to go beyond that as attorney general garland said today he is certainly not shy of doing, look at the plotters and the planners and the inspirers to see if there is -- if there are criminal charges that need to be filed on some of the higher ups. and then we -- there also has to be a reckoning in terms of what almost happened, this idea that mike pence could, you know, just change the electoral vote if he chose to do so. so when i think relatively quick and easy and important thing to do would be to reform the electoral count act which is kind of a mess and unclear and make it clear that the vice president does not have that
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power. so there's no question going forward. >> bill, let me ask you about donald trump has decided not to do his press conference or whatever it was he was going to do tomorrow, but matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene are going to present something they call a republican response. i'm not clear on who allows them to do that or whothies republicans are who think that's a good idea. >> well, those two do. and they're members of congress. as you know they can get a room or stand outside and have a press conference and make claims if they want. i think it's interesting trump backed off. and it is about donald trump going forward in large part. i'll add that to gene's list. donald trump right now is leading in polls to be the republican nominee for president. there's some chance 30%, 40%, 50%, republicans will win in the next elections. anyway, there's a chance the republicans can win, trump likely to be the nominee.
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very important for people to come to grips with a serious question. should this man be president again? what are the risks of that? liz cheney has put that very powerfully and he went along with 2016 and 2020. she wasn't crazy about it at least, and i don't know how she voted for it in the privacy of the booth but she supported the republican party. republicans can't take that attitude it's a nomination, i'm a republican i guess i have to support them. i think one thing important here is to make people come to grips with what trump did. that's why it's so important to establish responsibility which i think is clear for inciting the thing, trying to pressure state officials to overturn the election and then be lying about it afterwards, of course, as well and the dereliction of duty that afternoon, 187 minutes which i think the committee is very interested in, where he knew what was happening and refused to stop it. he wanted the violence, wanted
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the intimidation, wanted the chaos. >> and we're learning more and more about who told him what in those 187 minutes. coming up the attorney general put it simply today, it's now up to congress to ensure every eligible voter can cast a vote that counts. what are the chances of that happening? when "the 11th hour" continues. t happening? when "the 11th hour" continues (judith) in this market, you'll find fisher investments is different than other money managers. (other money manager) different how? don't you just ride the wave? (judith) no - we actively manage client portfolios based on our forward-looking views of the market. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions, right? (judith) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest. (other money manager) so when do you make more money? only when your clients make more money? (judith) yep, we do better when our clients do better.
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minority leader mitch mcconnell seems increasingly
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concerned the democrats might actually get something done on voting rights. in a floor speech today mcconnell called efforts to connect the january 6th insurrection to attacks on democracy through voter suppression distasteful. and just yesterday he falsely claimed that republican state legislatures were not making it harder to vote, calling that the democrats' big lie. still with us eugene robinson and bill kristol. bill, the minority leader has talked about perhaps amending the 1887 electoral vote count act, the electoral count act which many people didn't know existed but it's the thing that governs what happens on january 6th. you tweeted today maybe he will, maybe he won't, but that's not really where our attention should be focused. >> i'm strongly for reforming it, and personally if i'd been in charge of democrat strategy i would have introduced that bill as well as the other two bills. it's the easiest to complain to people. we had this chaos.
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having said that, that bill has not been introduced yet. there are two other bills which are good bills. they should be debated on the floor and suggest amendments, and it may well be they'll get some votes to take out the parts they like the most. they've refused to even let them be debated. and that's the situation we now face with the john lewis act. >> eugene robinson, we're interested in hearing what the president and vice president have to say tomorrow about january 6th. and of course, you know, there's been some pressure on them both to lean into the voting rights aspect of things a little bit more, and it's something they've been somewhat resistant to do or depending on your perspective there are some critics who say they've been resistant about it. what do you think can happen if the president decides he's going all in on voting rights? >> look, if the president decides this is his number one
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issue and number one initiative, then that has a big impact in washington. and so that's one thing he can do. i hope he and vice president harris do lean into the voting rights question tomorrow when they give remarks because, you know, we are talking about the survival of our democracy. we are talking about the basic right to vote. we're talking about these attempts across the country to restrict that right to vote in ways that favor the republican party. and we simply can't allow that to happen. so, you know, the president does have a bully pulpit, and he should -- he should put whatever pressure on that he can apply. >> bill, you and your group have taken out an ad on conservative television tonight. the difference with the president is if he has this bully pulpit and he goes all in,
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he's still got kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. how does he solve that problem? >> the question is whether they'll support changing the filibuster in certain ways to make it possible to pass it. i think he needs to try to persuade them of that. maybe they need to do another vote. maybe they need to pull out individual parts of the bill, no intimidation of election officials. let's just put that on the floor. are republicans really going to oppose that? so i think there might be ways to begin to make it harder for republicans to oppose this and also convince manchin and sinema if the republicans are going to keep on opposing they've got to support reforms in the filibuster. manchin has at least some, but it's not so clear right now. >> gentlemen, thank you for your time tonight. eugene robinson and bill kristol. coming up, pivoting to a new normal, which might mean learning to live with the risk of covid.
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multiple sources of now preliminary data indicate a decreased severity with omicron. however, we really do need more definitive assessment of severity with longer term follow-up here and in different countries. but the big caveat is we should not be complacent. >> public health leaders once again urging americans to stage vigilant as the omicron variant fuels a surge in cases. the cdc says it will not change the definition of what it means to be fully vaccinated, but the agency released new guidance today now recommending that all people -- all eligible people stay, quote, up-to-date with covid vaccine booster shots. back with us tonight, dr. celine gounder, clinical professor of
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medicine. she was part of a panel that advised the biden transition team on covid-19. she hosts a weekly podcast on the impact of coronavirus called "epidemic." dr. gounder, it is good to see you again. i want to get your sense of this because you and i have been talking throughout the entire pandemic about the pattern of it. when we saw omicron start in south africa, we saw it a steep ramp up and then we saw a steep drop off. and seesaw that elsewhere. america's bigger. the geography is larger. it's more complicated. how do you process where we are in this continuum and how we're responding? >> i think we're going to see a spike up and spike back down here in the united states with respect to omicron transmission. but there are as you point out very important differences in terms of the demographics of countries like south africa, a much younger country. many of their immunocompromised
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patients have hiv/aids in this country we have older people and also patients myly immunosuppressed from conditions associated with cancer, all the different medications they may be taking. so we have a slightly different content in which the omicron variant is playing out here. >> what's your sense of people who are saying this new variant is so contagious and so many people are getting it that it gets us to herd immunity, which causing some people to think, hey, maybe i can just get it and we can get this over with? >> i really think that is a misunderstanding of what is herd immunity. i think we have to be very careful about advocating something like that, something like chickenpox parties or saying that we should just allow the virus to spread without trying to stop it. and i think there's a few reasons for that. one, as dr. fauci notes, we do
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not know what all the characteristics of this new virus are or what this new variant are. we know it appears to be milder in younger people. one of the reasons is it seems to favor the upper airway over the lower airway. so more in the nose and throat than in the lungs. so it's causing less severe disease. but we don't know as well how it's going to play out in older people, in highly immunocompromised people, particularly those who may not have been vaccinated yet. and we don't know what it means in terms of long covid. so right now it does seem like it's a more benign variant, but i think it's too early to say this is just the common cold. >> you are a public health professional. what's your sense of the warnings we've been getting from doctors about hospitals filling up in terms of icu beds, staff getting sick, staff shortages in the health care field? how serious is this matter? >> i'm seeing it first-hand.
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at bellevue hospital where i work, many of our staff are out sick right now. we're really understaffed and that's creating tremendous stress on the system. we're really trying to avoid any kind of elective procedures. we're trying to get everyone out that we can possibly get out and attend to their needs on an outpatient basis. we're pulling doctors from other parts of the hospital from outpatient clinics, people who are supposed to be on holiday, we're pulling them back in to help staff the hospital right now. so we're definitely seeing the impact. and i think it's important to remember just because a virus is more benign relatively speaking, let's say it's half as deadly, if you have twice as many cases that actually gets you to exactly the same number of deaths. so this is still a very dangerous variant that we're dealing with here. >> that's a very good way to put it because i think a lot of people have been struggling to explaining to people that it may be not as fatal, but there's a lot more of it around.
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what's your sense of the cdc's guidance about staying fully vaccinated without describing what fully vaccinated means, meaning whether it involves a booster? >> i think that's an appropriate recommendation. i think on the one hand with respect to preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death, and so the bulk of what is truly disrupting to society, the first two doses in the pfizer and moderna series are very good at preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death. and where we occasionally see breakthrough infections turning bad is really the elderly, the highly immunocompromised and people living in nursing homes. if you want to further reduce risk, reduce risk of infection, transmission and so on, the additional doses become especially important. as you see new variants emerge there's a role potentially new doses of vaccine.
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i think especially when you consider -- when you talk about mandates and requirements, i think you have a higher bar to cross, so to speak, in terms of why you are recommending a dose of the vaccine. and is it in the public's general interest or not. >> celine, good to see you as always. coming up we're going to bring you an inside look into the fbi's january 6th investigation and their efforts to identify those who stormed the capitol. when "the 11th hour" continues. the capitol. wh "enthe 11th hour" continues i. a debit card for kids, and a set of tools to help them learn good money habits. by creating allowances and assigning chores, they can practice earning every day. with a debit card just for them, they'll learn smart spending firsthand, while you monitor and set account alerts. and using their own chase mobile app, they can set big savings goals. all with no monthly service fee. chase first banking.
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>> reporter: a year after the worst attack on the u.s. capitol since the british torched it 200 years ago, the fbi hasn't stopped working to identify rioters. this exclusive look shows agents and analysts still combing through tens of thousands of photos and videos. investigators also used facial recognition software and cellphone records that allow them to plot the movement of individual people inside the capitol. the largest use ever of that technique. >> the attacks happened all over the capitol grounds. >> reporter: steven, the man in charge of the fbi's washington field office says priority now is identifying the rioters who attacked police, like this man using a long probe to administer shocks. it's giving them an electrical jolt? >> correct, yeah. >> reporter: so that must be painful. >> i imagine it would be, yes. it would be like any taser. >> reporter: or this video of a man beating an officer with a long pole. >> just hit him in the head. >> reporter: or this one showing
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one of the rioters praying a chemical at officers. >> he throws it, grabs a riot shield and starts beating the officers. >> reporter: people sent in hundreds of thousands of tips reacting to photos and videos like these posted on the fbi's website. tips have even come from ride share drivers and waiters. >> we've had restaurant workers turn somebody in because they overheard them talking about it. >> reporter: federal criminal charges have now been filed against 700 people, and about one-fourth of them have pleaded guilty. but a big question remains unanswered. was there actually a plan well in advance to storm the capitol, or was it a case of seizing the moment? >> it does matter in terms of a record of history, to get a sense of what this event was all about. was it a perfect storm of failure of security, of extremists kind of all coalescing around the capitol or was this something greater? >> reporter: members of the far right proud boys and oath keepers have been charged with
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conspiracy but court documents say they were preparing for violence in the streets. and the fbi has yet to figure out who planted two pipe bombs last january 5th at republican and democratic national headquarters. no breakthroughs so far despite releasing surveillance video showing the suspected bomber that night on capitol hill. why don't you know yet who placed these bombs the night before the riot? >> they're covered from head to toe, right? they have a hoodie on, glasses, a mask, gloves. you know, fully clothed. >> reporter: the fbi has even compiled this map showing the bombing suspect's movements that night. what do you see in the video of that person? what are they doing? >> you know, the person is walking on this road here. >> reporter: one bomb was placed just outside the democratic office entrance. pretty close to that corner? >> yeah, pretty close to that area around there. >> our thanks to pete williams for that report. coming up, the powerful message about how we deal with emotional trauma whether it's personal or shared. when "the 11th hour" continues. d when "the 11th hour" continues
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do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're living with hiv, keep loving who you are. and ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. the last thing before we go tonight is about trauma. maryland congressman jamie raskin and his family experienced profound trauma a little over a year ago when their 25-year-old son tommy died by suicide on new year's eve. in his new book "unthinkable," raskin is very open about losing his son. on "deadline white house" today he explained to nicolle wallace
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why he believes it's so important to be public about his family's experience. >> if you turn on some of the news and you look on the internet you would think that america is just all about violent polarization and mutual hatred and so on. and that's not been our family's experience. we've had wonderful messages, thousands and thousands of messages from people all over the country, all over the political spectrum reaching out to us. we've had veterans who have battled mental illness and veteran's families who have lost people to suicide. we've had other families whose kids are going through depression or who have lost kids reach out to us. i mean, there's a lot of pain out there. 800,000 families lost somebody in covid. we've lost tens and tens of thousands of people recently to gun violence in the country. the mental and emotional health crisis is out of control. the opioid crisis. so this is a country that is in
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pain. this is a country that's wounded. and the way to deal with trauma is to speak of trauma, for people to be able to express their truths and to use the trauma as a bonding mechanism so we can connect with other peoples pain and other peoples loss and then move forward. and i think that's what's going to get us out of it. otherwise we're going to get into cycles of pain and cycles of violence and depression. and we don't want that. so for me, i know my wife sarah makes fun of me because i don't distinguish between public life and private life. and that's kind of what you were touching on, too. for me it's just life. i want life to get better for every american. we can do so much better than we've done over the last few years, all of us can. >> well, tomorrow we will all speak of the trauma that raskin and this nation experienced on january 6, 2021, all in hopes
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that we can recognize that we are all in this together and must do better in the days ahead. that is our broadcast on this wednesday night with our thanks for being with us. on behalf of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. thanks for joining us this hour. senator chuck schumer, leader of the senate democrats, majority leader of the senate, is going to be here as our guest, live, in just a moment. looking forward to speaking with him. since, once again, and as usual, he is the man at the center of the question of what can or cannot be done in washington with the biden administration and what they can or cannot get past. we will speak with senator schumer live in just a moment. today's january 5th, of course. a year ago today, in the great state of georgia, georgia voters elected to new u.s.


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