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i texted him and he was not answering. i arrived at the office and i could see smlg was really wrong. i called somebody, he said steve had been shot. >> steve pit was unforgettable. he was the first to die that week, hunted down by a man with
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a gun and a grudge. i felt this shooter that he was moving down the list. >> six murders. in four days. a city under siege. people were desperate for a suspect. who else could have been on this list? >> i had my personal terrors. and why? >> the most haunting question of all, could those six lives been saved? >> steve says these things never happen in a vvacuum, there are always warning signs. it was stunning to me.
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for an agonizing stretch of nearly four days, the fear was palpable and paralyzing. a killer was on the loose and around phoenix, arizona, systemically shooting innocent victims. >> a massive manhunt underway, police work around the clock, desperate for leads. did any of it have to happen? this was a tragedy many saw it coming. including the first and most high-profile victim. >> he was nobody else i ever met. >> natalie collins met dr. steven pit. he was intellectually honest whether you want his opinion or
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not. he was for midsable and fair. >> pit was known for his work on cases like the columbine massacre and the murder of john binet ramsey. when they met a few years later, he asked her to lunch. >> i had the longest lunch i ever had. it was hours and it was fabulous. i loved every minute of it. >> they got engaged. >> he was a brilliant forensic psychiatrist. he was even a better being. steve and his two sons. he would say to the boys, work hard and don't say can't and be nice and have fun. >> steve was a master at diving into someone's mind and understanding what made them tech. >> no matter who retained him, i
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am sure you noticed that about him. >> i did. >> my name is dr. steven pitt. i interviewed pitt in 2015 for the report of the 20th anniversary of the john binet case. a sharp guy with a big personality and a sense of humor. >> hey, let's be friends, i will come to los angeles and we'll hang out. he was interested in everybody and their story. he never made anybody feelless than. he wants someone else lost, he was always, always happy for people's victories and accolades. he was smarter just about anybody, it was clear to me that he was one of the smartest
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people i ever met. i don't recall him ever acting that way. >> i would wholeheartedly agree with that. one of the amazing things and the talent that he could see not only the good of everybody, he could see and believe that everyone had something to offer. >> he read a lot of history about serial killer. he felt his skills were well suited to that dwrar. >> he didn't scare easy. >> steve was aware some criminals he dealt with may pose a threat. >> i can recall a couple of specific instances where he shows me a photograph, if you see this person any where near you, you are to calling a police. situational awareness and so he would teach me about remembering where things were and watching for things and -- >> not just walking around
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blindly looking at your phone or on a call or nothing. >> exactly. >> he always try to calm natalie's nerves. >> i remember at dinner where he said to me, babe, relax, in thes situations there are bigger fish to fry than me. they'll always go after an attorney than me. circumstances of losing him the way we did was stunning to me. >> one of the rare times he was ever gone. thursday, may 31st, 2018, natalie saw him that morning.
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they made plans to meet after work. >> at 5:18 i texted him and i said are you on your way and i said are you coming? he said 10 minutes max, i will see you there. half an hour and still no steve. >> that was unlike him. i drove to his office and as i arrived to the office, i can see something was really, really wrong. >> he saw the police and the yellow tape. i could see his ranger and there were things on the ground that i was hoping was medical supplies and i thought they were working on him for somebody. i knew there were something wrong with him. >> cops were not telling her anything. natalie was getting desperate. i called somebody steve worked with who was a steve officer and asked him what was happening. i can hear something really bad has happened.
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steve has been shot. i said nothing and i said did he survive? and he said no. i don't remember much after that. a man had confronted steve as he left work to meet natalie. what witness reported hearing shout and gunfire. based on description, a white male, bald, wearing a dark hat and a short breem. >> did that look like anybody you know? >> no. natalie stayed at the scene until 4:00 a.m. until her fiance's body was removed. >> because the shooter was still not in custody, i did ask several officers whether it was
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safe for me to go home and one of them said we don't know the answer to that, ma'am. >> they also didn't know just how much worst it was going to get. >> coming up -- >> natalie has a hunch. >> i knew there would be a link when "unravelled" continues. k when "unravelled" continues. we hit the bike trails every weekend shinges doesn't care. i grow all my own vegetables shingles doesn't care. we've still got the best moves you've ever seen
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seen. >> we have an active police presence right behind us. someone walked in and shot her in the head. velera somehow managed to get outside and a passer driver saw and called 911. >> she was coming right towards my vehicle. >> she was laid down on the ground. >> emt rushed her to the hospital but could not save her life. scottsdale police follow the trail of the blood back to the law office and discovered a second victim, laura anderson. >> she's been shot in the chest and was already dead. two women murdered in broad daylight and another unlikely crime scene and 10 miles from the spot where steve pit was killed. shaver sharp. >> she was not the type of person that had any enemies.
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i can remember the officer asking me questions like that, i am like no, no. >> natalie collins was at home and still in stock over steve's murder when she heard the news. >> i knew there is a link between steve's murder and those murders because people don't get gun down in their offices and scottsdale does not happen. >> natalie hunch was right. >> scottsdale police able to confirm that the murder scene on thursday and friday connected. firearm analysis shows a 40-caliber weapon was used. and then about 10 hours after the paralegal were killed, we received a call. >> an adult male shot twice in the head at an office seven
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miles from the law firm. >> doorbell rang, i want to ignore it. it was 3:00 a.m. psychotherapist answered the door. >> he came back and get me and said you need to get up and police are hering marshal had been found dead in the office. >> the latest victim, 72-year-old marshal levine was a counselor and coach. >> we sat down with officers and wanted to know what kind of clients he was seeing and what his practice was like. >> this was not marshal. >> i wonder what you thought was more of a threat after the second and third murder scenes. >> i was scared. i also knew or believed that this was personal and i felt in
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my heart that when this shooter crossed steve's office list that he was moving down the list. >> police were racing to find out why were these people on it? what did they have in common? investigaors collected shell casings and discovered they're 40 caliber. four murders in less than 31 hours. all committed by the same person. there was one promising clue. dna on a shell-casings received on the scene of steve pit's murder. there was no match. by 10:00 a.m. saturday morning, police open an emergency center. >> we don't know what connects them but they seem to be doing
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it at will. that's got to be frightening. >> it was. there was a lot of fear and unrest in the community and people were desperate for a suspect. no one yet knew about this man. 200 miles away, watching the news of the murders unfold, he was a former phoenix police detective, he had a sudden sickening feeling. a sudden sickening feeling. >> coming up, you were 18 and he was 22? >> correct. >> your first boyfriend? >> the start of something very evil. >> i had my own terrorist. >> when "unravelled" continues. s when you trade in your old or damaged phone. here, the phone everyone wants, on america's most reliable network. better? (guy) better. (kate) that's not all. the new iphone, and up to 7 entertainment subscriptions for your family. like apple music, apple arcade, and more. better? (family) better. (kate) not done. the new iphone, the entertainment,
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to get the killer. he started out at the phoenix police department and even worked under cover, later he became a private investigator. when he heard of steve pit's murder, his feeling told him -- it had to relate to his work. >> he heard of the murders of the two paralegals in scottsdale and suddenly that universe shrank. >> i am certain who it was. >> you know? >> i knew. >> he knew how steve pit and the feldman law firm were connected and who was behind the murders. rick knew because years earlier, he taken on a case of scottsdale doctor, named connie jones. >> i had my own personal
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terrorist. >> connie was on summer break from college in 1984 when she started dating a young soldier named dwight jones. dwight was stationed at fort bragg, north carolina. you were 18, he was 22. >> correct. young. too young. >> your first boyfriend? >> yes. he told me he wanted to be an attorney. so he seemed to have aspirations. >> they married in 1988 after her first year of medical school. dwight left the army after three years. and soon connie realized that while she was working hard to become a doctor, dwight was doing nothing. >> i don't recall him ever working more than two or three days because every job that he would get, there would be some issue. so we lived in medical school on my financial aid. >> that's probably not how you grew up, is it? >> that is not. my family has the best work ethic you can think of. >> after medical school, connie
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began a residency in psychiatry, but soon found it hit too close to home. her own husband, she came to realize, was mentally ill. >> he was depressed. he would stay in the bed for three or four days. and then he became very hostile towards me. >> what form did that take? >> verbal abuse, emotional abuse. again, if he were mad he would not talk for a week to punish me. >> connie switched her focus to radiology. and she encouraged dwight to seek mental health treatment. >> i wanted to help him. i mean, who doesn't want to help their spouse? >> dwight refused. she says she endured eight years of escalating hostility and verbal abuse before telling dwight she wanted a divorce. >> and he laid on the floor for three days crying and said that it was his mental illness. that he loved me. that he didn't want to lose me.
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and that he would do whatever he needed to do. >> so connie stayed. and, in 1997, she gave birth to a son. >> after the child was born, he actually seemed to be better. >> being a father was good for him? >> it was. it did seem to give him a purpose. >> dwight watched their child during the day. but connie says he still left most of the caregiving to her. and soon enough, connie says dwight's emotional abuse worsened. he became obsessive and controlling. >> after i had my son, i thought it was my obligation to try to make this work. i mean, i really did not see myself in life as a divorced person. >> but how do you make things work when you have no idea who is coming home at night? >> the garage door would open. and we didn't know what we were getting. >> dr. jekyll or mr. hyde. >> right. >> dwight's good times became
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more and more rare. then he began to abuse her physically. but at the same time carefully. >> you know, if you punch someone in the eye, that kind of thing, it's obvious that you're being abused. but hitting you with their forearm, physically holding me down, pushing me into walls, those things don't leave bruises. but they are very violent. >> and he did all of those to you? >> he did. >> and sometimes it did leave a mark, like the time she says dwight broke her sternum. >> he hit me with his -- the ball of his hand in my chest. >> and you didn't call the police? >> i didn't. >> because? >> at that time i did not have a plan of exit. i was sleeping with a knife
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under my pillow because i thought he was so out of control. >> by early 2009, connie said dwight was directing his anger and threats at their child. >> particularly murder-suicide of himself and the child so that i would suffer the rest of my life knowing that my child is dead because i didn't do what he said. >> connie knew she needed to get out. but she also knew a woman who'd been killed while trying to leave her abusive boyfriend.
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so connie made plans to escape, in secret. >> i start preparing to get some of my important paperwork to another location, some clothes and things that we might need. >> that's when she consulted family law attorney elizabeth feldman. the name rick anglin would recognize from the news years later. connie also placed audio recorders around her home. >> so if things seemed to be heated so that i could document what he was doing. >> and that's exactly what happened on the night of may 6, 2009. >> i'll show you. i'm going to show you. >> he's over this 11-year-old child. and he has his finger to his chest, in his face, yelling at him. and so i say, you know, leave him alone. he's calling me every name you can think of. >> see how smart you are, [ bleep ]. see what your college degree taught your dumb ass. >> on the tape, you can hear dwight threatening to kill connie.
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>> i'll take you out to this [ bleep ] pool and drown you. >> and that if i called -- if i called 911 that i'd be dead before they got there. leave me alone. >> call the [ bleep ] now. let's see what happens. you want to see? >> connie did call 911, and a s.w.a.t. team surrounded the house, but dwight held his son hostage and wouldn't leave. >> my wife started this [ bleep] >> after an hour-long standoff, dwight finally surrendered. >> so as he walked out, the child was physically in front of him. >> like a shield.
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>> like a shield. he was inconsolable. i mean, as a mother to see your child in that distress, it's pretty devastating. >> dwight was arrested. and connie filed for divorce. often, that means the end of something. instead, it was just the beginning of the worst chapter in connie's relationship with dwight jones. coming up -- connie reaches out for help. >> i had people full-time on the school where the son goes. if connie went to work, there was somebody with her while she was working. but would even that be enough to protect her from dwight? >> he told me that he would wait until my defenses were down and then he would get me. >> when "dateline" continues. sng at it's best taking metamucil everyday can help. metamucil psyllium fiber, gels to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. it also helps lower cholesterol
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connie jones managed to escape her husband's rage. josh mankiewicz here again with "unraveled." connie remembers the report on dwight said he was not an
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imminent threat. >> but the psychiatrist that evaluated him called me and told me that he was dangerous. and that i should get a bodyguard. >> enter him. >> enter richard anglin. >> connie hired rick, the private investigator, to do surveillance on dwight and to assess how much of a threat he posed. rick and his team tailed dwight, took photos and vitd of him and combed threw his clutter debris filled room in the family home and found some books with seriously disturbing titles. >> how to get even with people. how to injure people in street fighting. it starts to put a makeup of somebody who is trying to plan something. >> he made sure she and her son always had eyes on them. >> i had people full time on the school where the son goes. if connie went to the grocery store, had a public event, went to work, somebody was with her. >> anglin moved connie and her son among three remote safe houses. >> well, this is like a chess game.
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>> anglin moved connie and her son among three remote safe houses. >> well, this is like a chess game. connie met with a forensic psychologist. his interviews with them as part of the custody case. >> can you spell your name? >> connie jones. >> i thought he was exceptional. his report was i thought, very detailed. and accurate. >> dr. pitt's report matched
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what rick had come to believe with dwight jones. without psychiatric mental treatment his mental state will unravel and become increasingly paranoid, likely psychotic and pose an even greater risk for perpetrating violence. when dwight's probation ended connie obtained an order of protection that prohibited him from owning guns. >> this case is the scariest case i've ever been involved in. >> remember karen kolbe, the therapist awakened in the middle of night. she worked with connie and dwight's son for two years starting in 2009. >> divorces are a dime a dozen. >> this was something else? >> yes, violence, potential violence, violence already committed. somebody clearly on a path to commit more violence. >> connie and dwight's divorce went to trial in family court where karen kolbe and steve pitt presented their findings.
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in 2010 the judge granted connie full custody of her son. >> i'm thinking i'm reading through the decree, sounded pretty good to me so far. >> and what would you think it would say, so dwight is to have no more contact with you and your son ever? >> yes. >> instead it says what? >> it says it's mandated that he have supervised visits with him, that he has a parental right to see him. >> what did you think when you read that? >> shocked. it didn't make sense to me they took his right as a parent even over the safety of the child. >> what's more, under arizona law, dwight was entitled to spousal support. in this case $6,000 a month. >> he threatened you, hit you, says he is going to murder you, murder your child. >> mm-hmm. >> you have to pay him spousal support. >> yes. >> and you're on the hook for his attorneys. >> yes. yes.
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and i have to pay for the supervised visitations because he is a threat. >> what did this cost you financially? >> well, what he got was over $650,000. >> there came a point where connie couldn't afford my services or anybody else's. i couldn't walk away. >> because you think if you're not there, she's going to get killed? >> you don't need to be dr. pitt to come up with a determination of what would eventually happen. >> their worries only increased in 2013 when connie's final protective order against dwight expired and he was able to legally purchase a gun. >> he told me he would wait until my defenses were down and then he would get me. >> by then connie had started carrying a gun of her own. rick trained her how to use it if and when the day came that dwight confronted her. >> i prepared her for it mentally, physically, and
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emotionally. she's trained for it. >> the court ordered that dwight get psychological help. there's no evidence he ever complied. instead, dwight isolated himself at this extended stay hotel for years. connie built a successful career as a radiologist. she even wrote a book on breast cancer screening. by 2016 dwight's spousal support had ended. so had the visits with his son. connie no longer had to see her ex-husband in court, but she and rick remained hyper-vigilant, especially about her son. >> you don't get to just say, let's go to the movies. you've got to scan the parking lot. >> in early june, when rick saw the news about the shootings of steve pitt and the two paralegals at elizabeth feldman's law firm. he came to an undeniable conclusion. >> i was certain who it was. it's dwight jones. >> his first thought was he had to find connie. >> i immediately start to text her to call me, start calling
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her phone, i'm getting no response. >> then rick heard about the murder in therapist karen kolbe's office. and he became more concerned. after a tense hour, connie called back. she was okay. rick's next call was to phoenix police. >> explained to him who i thought was responsible, what his vehicle description was, where he was at, and how the three crime scenes were linked. >> it was just the tip the cops needed. now they had to find dwight jones before he struck again. coming up -- >> this was a homicide investigation kind of in overdrive, wasn't it? >> it was. >> closing in on a killer. >> we knew who was it. >> when "dateline" continues.
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around phoenix were racing the clock and a fast-moving killer. now, thanks to a tip from rick anglin, they were getting closer. >> i'm convinced that we're dealing with dwight jones at this point. >> rick recognized that all the crime scenes related back to dwight and connie's divorce and custody battles from nearly a decade earlier. plus, forensic analysis had already told police all four victims had probably been killed with the same weapon. and there was a critical piece of evidence that might link the weapon to dwight. that bit of dna on a shell casing recovered from the scene of steve pitt's murder. dna tests can take weeks or months. that was time police didn't have. >> we had some family members of mr. jones that were in northern arizona. with the help of the phoenix police department air unit we flew a detective up there. >> at the same time, other investigators were on the hunt for dwight. >> we had a vehicle description
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for mr. jones. it was a 2001 gold mercedes e320. >> cops started pulling security video from the multiple crime scenes, looking for that gold mercedes. >> some surveillance video near the scene of dr. pitt's office picked up that vehicle sort of acting strangely in and around the time of the shooting. >> and pictures from the following day showed what looked like the same car near the law firm just minutes before the two paralegals were murdered. it had been 14 hours since rick anglin tipped off investigators to dwight. as the investigation continued, police found evidence dwight and his gold mercedes were in a suburb called found hills, just 30 minutes outside scottsdale. a few hours later, cops found dwight and assigned teams to watch his every move. >> while they were surveilling dwight jones on sunday, they watched him dispose of something in a trash can. officers later went back to that trash can, and what they found
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inside was a gun. >> however, that gun was a 22-caliber -- not a 40. >> that gun was not a match for any of the four homicides? >> it was not. >> meaning that if it's dwight jones, he still has that gun with him? >> right. and meaning they don't necessarily have enough yet to link dwight jones to these four murders. >> but there was still the dna. a detective who flew late sunday night to get dna samples from dwight's family now rushed those swabs back to the lab and -- >> within about four hours, we had a positive hit on mr. jones. >> we at "dateline" cover a lot of murders, some of which take years to solve. this case was not one of those. less than 84 hours after this homicidal rampage began, investigators were confident they had id'd their killer. >> we knew who was our suspect and murderer. >> at the same time the dna was
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being analyzed, detectives were retracing dwight's steps. they believed that sometime before he'd been placed under surveillance, dwight had contacted the residents of this home in fountain hills. they sent a maricopa county sheriff's deputy to check on them. >> they used a ladder. they got to see through an upstairs window, and they immediately recognized that there was a gentleman inside that appeared to have been shot. they forced entry, and upon doing so, found another victim, a woman, who had also been shot, and both were deceased. >> my guts just absolutely dropped when i heard this news. >> scott wightman was the tennis coach of one of the victims, mary simmons. >> she competed like nobody else. everybody wanted to play with mary. >> and one of her occasional playing partners was dwight jones. police believe, that for reasons yet unknown, dwight murdered mary and her boyfriend, bryon thomas, in their home. remember that .22 police observed dwight tossing?
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police later learned it belonged to the fountain hills couple. mary and bryon had been killed with their own weapon. there were now six dead, and dwight jones was still not in custody. but investigators had a good idea where to find him. coming up -- finally, a killer surrounded. >> they carefully and quietly started to evacuate the hotel. >> he began firing at them. somewhere between seven and eight rounds were fired. >> when "dateline" continues. hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love... plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? now get powerful relief with robitussin elderberry. wondering what actually goes into your multivitamin? at new chapter, its' innovation, organic ingredients, and fermentation. fermentation? yes. formulated to help you body really
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welcome back. officials believed dwight jones had claimed two new victims.
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his occasional tennis partner and boyfriend had been gunned down in their suburban home. investigators were confident they had tied dwight to a total of six murders over a four-day rampage. this cases was hurtling toward the end with more twists to come. here's the conclusion of "unraveled." they followed him to an extended hotel where he had been living for nine years. they carefully and quietly started to evacuate the surrounding rooms and the rest of the hotel. >> police described what happened next. >> he began firing at them. somewhere between seven and eight rounds were fired. all officers were safe and okay, and eventually in this action, they found that mr. jones had killed himself. self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> your ex-husband's dead now. >> yes. >> do you feel safe finally? >> yes. >> with a tremendous amount of courage and with rick's help, connie jones and her son had lived to see her personal terrorist's last i do this earth. >> but other people were killed, innocent people, good people, productive people, that is a hard thing to come to grips with. >> six people gone, three of whom apparently had nothing at all to do with dwight jones. just in the wrong place, at the
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wrong time. like the paralegals, laura anderson and veleria sharp, both in their late 40s, both wives and mothers. neither had worked on the jones case. >> i've heard people say -- they mean well -- that god needed another angel. i think that's a bunch of mularkey. if god needed another angel, i'm sure he could get one. he didn't need to come and take veleria and take a mother and take a wife to get one. >> and the therapist, marshall levine. >> if you'd been in your office and not marshall levine, i kind of doubt you'd be sitting here talking to me today. >> i'm sure that's true. >> what's that like? >> that's hard to think about. i don't really know how to think about that, to be honest. >> the grief is still raw for natalie collins.
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>> you going to change the way you live? >> i hope not. i don't think steve would want that. he was not about hiding in the shadows. i am not going to let him have died for nothing, and i will find a way to make him proud. >> no one can say for sure exactly what set off dwight jones. after the bloodshed was over, some videos surfaced that jones had posted before the murders. >> hello, youtube, welcome to my channel. >> in them dwight raged against his wife and the professionals who worked on the custody case. >> you've ruled i have a psychiatric problem based on some piece of -- that she hired? >> the videos underscored some troubling questions. dwight jones was obviously disturbed, so why wasn't he stopped? did the legal system fail everyone?
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could six murders have been prevented? >> i do feel very strongly that the court system did not protect me. >> connie jones says her ex-husband was violent for years, but that courts ignored one red flag after another. >> my life wasn't valued. my son's life wasn't valued enough to stop him, which inadvertently harmed other people. >> if she had to live all those years terrorized, we failed her as a society. and i think as a physician with the resources she had, i wonder how many other women and families that we're failing as a society. >> most people can't take the steps to cover their tracks the way connie did. >> does the court system, both criminal and family court, do those systems understand domestic violence? do they react to it in the right way?
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>> no, not necessarily. >> allie bones is the former ceo of the arizona coalition to end sexual and domestic violence. >> they've had no problem whatsoever taking a position, a strong position, around duis or driving under the influence. but for some reason, we have had a very hard time over the years making the same argument with regards to domestic violence. >> habitual drunk drivers are quickly and legally separated from their car keys. but dwight jones, a documented domestic abuser, did not lose his right to own a gun. after holding his son captive in that standoff with police in 2009, he was allowed to plead guilty to disorderly conduct, which did not prevent him from legally buying the handgun he used to kill. and there was the mental health treatment strongly recommended by dr. steven pitt and ordered by the court. dwight didn't go. >> but the court did not follow up with that. there was no consequence for that. >> just before his death, steve pitt was proposing a story to
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"dateline," about educating people to see the warning signs of oncoming violence. >> there are always red flags and warning signs. it's not about blame. it's about prevention. and if we don't teach people what those signs are and we don't modify our system so people know who to reach out to, then we are failing. >> my message to any domestic violence victim out there is you're responsible for your own safety. >> if you count on the system to protect you, you make a mistake. >> you are making a mistake. i went in very naive. >> the sad truth is that some stories don't have happy endings. sometimes, particularly in real life, the bad guys win. but maybe connie and rick are the best living proof that some beauty can blossom from even the darkest of situations. >> a friend of mine told me that he really likes you. and i said, no, he doesn't. he is my friend. when i started paying attention to it, and i was like, oh, i think he does.
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>> what did you like about her? >> it turned out at my age, what was important to me is not only that she's beautiful, but she's intelligent. >> somehow, out of fear, danger, and the need for protection, grew love. connie and rick married in december 2013. you did your job. you protected her. she's still here. >> i'm happy about that. >> you feel like, maybe, the universe owes you a little happiness here? because i do. [ laughter ] >> well, we are. we have a very good family. i'm proud of it.
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i've been married twice. this is the only husband i've ever had. that's all for this edition of "dateline." he was coming towards me. his arms rais. i started pushing back. he grabbed me. i was shaking. i said, stop. stop. what are you doing? stop? >> they had a charmed life by the beach, surfer dad. >> he was a stud, you


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