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perfect union. we will keep trying in fact, we will we must keep trying together in 2022. that has a first tonight, that will see you again tomorrow, now time for the last word jonathan cavers evening for the last hayward -- good evening hayman would've powerful would end the show tonight. really terrific commentary on your part. the nice set up for the discussion on when i have with michael eric dyson, later on in the show we both look around -- the blackface scandal from a couple years ago. we set things up for us nicely. hey man, happy new year. thank you my friend, happy new year to you as well. >> and on the eve of new years eve, the united states such entered its coronavirus case count. nearly half 1 million cases today we, new report cases show that it was just shy of 600,000
cases. florida set yet another new record level of more than 58,000 new cases on wednesday. and despite all of this, people are still planning travel, parties and event for new years eve. even as experts predict infection rates will continue to grow. the pre omicron record high for average daily cases was 251,000 set back in january 2021. before vaccines were widely available, more than 85,000 people were hospitalized with covid. some hospitals are overwhelmed. northeast, ohio, issued a plea in sunday's addition of the cleveland will plain dealer. we help. we need your help. we now have more covid-19 patients in our hospital than ever before. and the overwhelming majority are unvaccinated. this is preventable. the best way to avoid serious illness is the vaccine. so, get vaccinated and get your booster. we didn't expect to be here
nearly two years later with vaccines free and available to all. and we have talked a lot about the political refuse or's. also the trump ally's who lie while people die. but the truth is more complicated. for two years, we have all lived with covid. but we have not lived equally. no one worked from home picking fruit or delivering groceries. black people make up 14% of the u.s. population but black children make up one quarter of children orphaned by covid. in california, latinos make up 39% of the population but 46% of the states covid deaths. some of them are members of brittani may he does family. she tells their story in a powerful new piece in the los angeles times. covid it was tore through my family, infecting nearly 30 relatives here in mexico. just on my mom side.
it's what led me to drive to my cousins to say goodbye to my father who was on the ventilator. it's also with divided my family. this year, i thought hope had come in the form of the vaccine. but i had family members who did interested, others with excuses for why they didn't need it. well joining us now is we brittny mejia, reporter for the los angeles time. and we dr. lipi roy, internal medicine physician. brittani, let me start with you. and first we, congratulating you might sound weird. but congratulating you on a beautiful piece of writing. but also, my condolences to you and your family and for the pain that you shared with the readers. for many covid-19 is we would force them to stay home and wear a mask to keep others safe. the virus existing largely in the abstract. the virus has had a very real
impact on your family. what >> he is, thank you so much for having me on, jonathan. the virus has had a huge impact on my family. nearly 30 relatives are getting positive for covid. family members who passed away in mexico. and most recently losing my grandmother to covid. so it is definitely we very defining for these last two years. >> you also read about the efforts to get your family vaccinated. i worked hard to convince my family to get vaccinated and i was able to get at least ten of them the shot. but i couldn't convince everyone. brittani, what made it difficult to convince your family to get vaccinated? >> well i think that there was a lot of misinformation, disinformation. our family members who kind of rely on youtube take with their news from their. it was difficult to make their case for why they should get vaccinated. it was a lot of conversation even with my mother. she got a flu shot and got
sick. we had many conversations about it. it was just a variety of factors. i think i have some family members who are anti vax. but others are just scared. they think that they might have an allergic reaction. they are scared of things that they are reading about. and that has steered a lot of conversations. >> one more question, was we spanish disinformation an issue for your family? we >> u.s.. it definitely is. and i think from what i found for a piece that i wanted to do. i was seeing more often that the disinformation was that there was no disclaimer that i could find. so was being allowed to be circulated. >> doctor roy, how concerned are you about continuing misinformation and disinformation about the virus and the vaccine? >> jonathan, good to be with. you let me first convey my deepest console this is to
britney. her family and her loved ones as well. what is really frustrating to me and my fellow medical professionals is that britney's story is sadly not unique. there are sadly millions of families throughout the united states, canada, we and around the world who are suffering from a disease that we know, at this point, is preventable. even from the beginning, through masking and distancing we can prevented. but now, we have all these other tools. we need to do more testing. but we now have really excellent vaccines. multiple vaccines that can help. we know that it can save lives. but like britney's family's, like many of my patients, and millions of other americans that still remain unvaccinated, this pandemic continues. we know what needs to happen. and unfortunately, as brittani pointed out, there is still a lot of misinformation. my own patients say that they
hear that the vaccine is worse than the virus. they have been doing their own research. and mostly it is through social media, youtube videos, channels that are miss we informing them. i also want to point out that in states like wyoming, they are only 40% vaccinated. we need we local and state officials in those states to really convey that vaccines are the right thing to do. it is the patriotic thing to do to protect you, your family and your neighbor. it's the patriotic thing to do, jonathan. >> really quick, doctor roy, the positivity rate is nearly at -- percent. what do you expect in the next week or so? >> i have been getting text from my colleagues, friends all over new york. almost every day they have said that they have tested positive. they also said one of their patients tested positive. what do we need are several things. we need widespread vaccinations,
boosters, testing and vexing. we i'm telling everyone to double mask. and if you have access to k 95 masks, please wear. it will also to wear surgical masks and a cloth mask on top of it. but also, not that we are on the eve of new year's, as you pointed out in your opening, we really just can't afford to gather in groups of 50, 60 people indoors. that is just a recipe for disaster. we need to avoid large crowds. practice safely outside, getting vaccine, and also getting boosters. >> brittani let me end with. you is the widespread of omicron convincing your unvaccinated family to get vaccinated? >> yes. actually in, we palm desert, my sister is getting her first vaccine dose which i am really excited about. i can't wait to be with her.
she is with really excited. there's a variety of factors including my grandmother passing away. i would say that continuing having conversations with family is important. it's better late than never. it's important to take away those extra steps. i set up that and we the right for her, that a point for my sister. >> brittny mejia, dr. lipi roy well, thank you both for joining us tonight. and again, brittani, our condolences to you in your family. 89 million americans are unvaccinated tonight. even though most of them are eligible. the cdc says a person who was unvaccinated is 20 times more likely to die from covid. donald trump delivered that message that vaccination can save your life to supporters in a right-wing media interview before christmas. and the right-wing media stars are going ballistic. they have conspiracy theorists outing his supporters to move on from trump.
and threatening to, quote, dish all the dirt on donald trump to get back at the ex president over his endorsement of the covid-19 vaccine. joining me now is juanita tolliver, msnbc analysts. and errin haines, an msnbc contributor. erin, right-wing editors heard the reporters but what about the impact that this entrenched anti vax minorities that are having all of us? including people of color. >> absolutely, jonathan, let me also just thank you. and also think britney for showing the human toll of misinformation. good on brittani for not giving up on her loved ones getting vaccinated. it is good to be with you again juanita tolliver at the end of 2021. weaponizing this pandemic is not a phenomenon that you make to the former president, and people like alex jones who are still committed to misinformation about covid-19 are not going to lead facts or
president trump get in the way. we know who that is harming. you mentioned some of the groups that is harming at the top of the show. people we know continue to be disproportionately impacted by the pandemic. whether we are talking about testing. but now we are talking about vaccine and also the economic toll that has taken on people. what we know is that president trump doesn't need to be in office for his rhetoric or style or tone to live on. it is proved politically useful, and it continues to be useful. even if it didn't quite work for him. but remember, he still got almost 75 million votes in defeat. which means that there is still an audience for. him >> right. and 12 million more votes than he got in 2016. juanita tolliver, looking at the map of the vaccination rate across the country, blue states are highly vexed. red states, not so much. we so, juanita tolliver, how
have republicans found themselves on this side of death? or more importantly, do they care that they are on the side of death? >> look, i saw a recent and pr map similar to the one you just put up, jonathan, and it shows that trump helped counties and districts that voted for him overwhelmingly in 2020 are facing death rates three times higher than the national average. and that is not changing their minds. because on top of that, facing death through not being vaccinated as we heard the cdc say you are 20 times more likely to die from covid if you're not vaccinated, that is not changing their minds. according to a polling research, used to have 75% of unvaccinated trump voters saying that they have no intention of being vaccinated. that includes people who have lost loved ones. that includes people who have lost people close to them, neighbors, family, friends and it's still not changing their minds.
honestly, when i see this reaction from folks like alex jones, boone trump onstage for seeing he has been boosted or sing they're going to release dirt on trump, all that shows me is that trump created a monster. when honestly, the lies and conspiracy theories that he delivered right from the white house at the start of this pandemic -- and now he has no control over it. and as we know, his region's base is the only political currency that he has. it is what's keeping him in control of the gop at this point. so don't be surprised if this backlash continues. trump might as well backpedal to make sure that he stays in the good graces of his fans. because without them, he has no political gain. >> right, he will end up saying or doing something to work his way back into the fold. but errin haines, the husband of congresswoman who is running for governor has said that lawn desantis is mia. people are waiting in line for
five hours for testing. he says, we have not received any assistance from the state of florida at our testing sites. local governments have been left to figure it out and respond on our own. we errin haines, the number of people were waiting for hours to get tested suggests that they have not turned well on covid. will there be a political backlash to let it rip on republicans? >> yes, you're exactly right. we have seen those images of those long lines of people who are trying to get tested for covid. especially coming out of the holidays and headed into new years eve, into next year, we are probably still gonna see those long lines of people around the state who are trying to provide that information. florida is in the midst of the largest single day increase of newly reported cases since the pandemic began. and it has been in the top ten for most cases per day. you mentioned, mia. mia is also currently among the top ten. so what does that mean?
it means that they are wondering what happened in schools. it means fans are wondering if they're going to sporting events. travelers are considering if they should go on that cruise. they may not listen to a cdc or dr. fauci but they will listen to somebody like a governor desantis. these are the kind of issues that the governor could address, and the way presses right to wonder where he is at this moment. he could be encouraging people to get vaccinated, to get boosted, to take precaution in public. but sadly, because the pandemic is partisan, i don't know if he's gonna change course. even though the former president, apparently, appears to be singing a different tune out of office in this moment. but folks like britney, could use the help to protect people and others. right that matters. maybe he's on break! real quick, juanita, can we just talk about anti mandate, anti against -- biden for the purposes of the
pandemic. come on! >> desantis is a prime member of that group, right? you talk about and more than one occasion to get out of the way -- he's banned mandates to for private employers. he's not doing anything to help the states. so while he is mia right now, he fully falls in line with all the other destructive behavior that he's demonstrated for the state of florida. you better believe the voters are gonna keep that in mind. the desperation that they feel in this moment, in the midterms as well as the 2024, if he seeks. office >> juanita tolliver, erin haines, thank you so much for your time tonight. pretty happy new year. >> you too. >> thanks. >> coming up, propublica's predicted economic disaster under president biden. the opposite has happened. that hasn't stopped them from attacking the white house. congressman o'connor, will offers rebuttal.
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2022 midterm elections, they are blaming trump letting joe bride him for everything. from inflation, to the omicron variant. while republicans are trying to cast arrive in covid cases of president biden's failing to hand pandemic, the party of trump has fought against masks and vaccine mandates, across the country. some members of the country, have even boasted about being unvaccinated and discourage others from getting the knife lifesaving inoculations. use it as they're unvaccinated keep overwhelming hospitals. republicans make up 60% of americans who are unvaccinated latest numbers available.
and you heard all even oliver and in this earlier, npr reports of people who live in pro trump counties, early three times as likely to die from covid-19 owes those who live in counties that win from joe biden in 2020. counties of the new higher share for the vote of travel controversy, saw higher covid-19 mortality. great this is, in large part, disinformation information spread by republicans. republicans are also playing the blame game when it comes to the economy. despite the fact that the biden white house and in the year with great economic do. according to bloomberg, america's economy should improve more indoor binds first 12 months than any other president during the past 50 years. i'm going to say that again. biden's first year in office, had the greatest economic balance since the start of the reagan administration.
unemployment claims have dropped to 198, 000, and in 2021 back at levels not seen before the pandemic started. despite the omicron surge. the dow, the s&p 500 closed at record highs. in the christmas and republicans kept predicting, you know the ones where consumers kept their cause clothes, well that didn't happen either. those republicans, waiting to blame president biden for christmas disaster were pretty quiet would match the cause of -- spending reported holiday sales have risen 8.5% from a year earlier, the biggest annual gain in 17 years. bamba, more like ho ho ho. joining me now is craig or congressman from california, he's a member from the oversight committee. -- congressman connor forgive my levity there how could you not
be survived by a numbers by. that -- explains the american people with the green he's had 1600 pennsylvania avenue did to ruin christmas. >> but christmas wasn't ruin congressman, how do democrats overcome that debt messaging when it comes to president biden's approval ratings on the economy? >> well jonathan, thank you for getting the facts out. there because this is not a scooter great economy. it's a thriving economy. let's just look at the facts. biden came in, 6.7% on unemployment. we passed american rescue plan and republicans say, unemployment is gonna go higher! people are going to work. they're gonna have to take those unemployment benefits. guess what, they were wrong. the president -- has about 4.2% because of his policies the labor market is
tight but does that mean they are getting raises for the first time. they have -- in what job they want to do. they're working class americans, and people are betting on the economy and that is why you should be the stock market to keep this -- going eight advise build back better for me. we won't have as much economic growth. but the point is at president biden has been right about his economic instincts from the perspective of the working class. will we talk about these big numbers -- >> s&p, unemployment. what are you hearing from your constituents? that could potentially be obstacles for democrats in the 2022 midterms? >> jonathan, i think we can't sugarcoat everything. people are still hurting. they are anxious about omicron. they are anxious about -- and they have to make sure that
our first priority is tackling covid in the president is doing that. he's doing that with a plan that actually has free testing out there. we should've had that in alaska ministration. boo finally f retesting. he has done that by mobilizing around pfizer's new pill. it can be a therapeutic for covid. i'm hoping, within months, we can increase production on that. and second, people are still concerned about prices of inflation. the cost of gas is still high. the cost of groceries are still high. the president is taking a number of actions to help alleviate those costs, including investing in our infrastructure, in our supply chains as you alluded to we don't have the delays the christmas that we expected. that is in part because of this presidents policy. >> congressman connor, you mentioned earlier the need for build back better to get past. are you hopeful, that build back better act will pass the
senate next month? next month, not later on the year, but next month. >> i am jonathan, i am hopeful because it's a policy that makes sense. it's a policy about economic growth at wall street. it's a policy about helping more money into the pockets of the working class of the time of rising prices. do i think it's going to be the bill that get voted out of the house? do i think it's gonna be the exact framework that fred president biden have. no i'm being realistic. here's the point, we in the house down ready to compromise. we want to get something done. we need the 50 senators to tell us, what are you for, and will the president in the house work to get something done and will compromise to get some of that is done for the american come public. >> american -- and you may have been saying it, and i haven't heard you. you said that you in the house down ready to compromise at the bill that comes out of the senate, most likely won't look
like the one you guys passed out of the house. i think this was a before thanksgiving. so, this to me anyway says that there could be some movement. we'll have to say that conversation for another time. congressman ro khanna, thank you so much for being with us, pre-happening or to you. >> having you jonathan, always a pleasure. >> donald trump's attorneys are still trying to keep his white house arguments a secret. and their latest trick, telling the supreme court to read the newspaper. no, really! we will explain that next! explain that next!
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supreme court to read my paper. the washington post. in his latest appealed to prevent the national archives from handing over documents the january 6th elect committee. trump's lawyers submitted a new fonda supreme court complaining about an interview, by chairman thompson. in this interview with the post, tara thompson said the
committee seeking information that could determine whether they will make a criminal referral to the justice department. trump's lawyers are giving karen thomas so the committee is trying to establish a criminal complaint against trump. something they argue, like legitimate legislative purposes, and should be. blocked today, the january 6th select committee come on -- responded in acknowledging the investigation does have legislative attempt, quote the records couldn't form numerous piece of potential legislation. and it has the legal consequences for refusal by the executive branch to timely and appropriately response to the attacks on congressional proceedings. the question now, will at least four justices agreed to hear the case, or will they refuse, effectively ending trump's legal options? joining >> me now -- and the michigan law school.
and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, and a professor at the university of alabama law school. they are both msnbc legal contributors and cohost of the podcast, has tag sisters in law. great to see you both. barbara one we start with you. will the supreme court even take up this appeal case by the trump legal team? >> i think it's very unlikely, jonathan. i think the decision that the court of appeals made, which confirmed the trial court in this case, really got a right very likely -- reason opinion. essentially what they said is president joe biden gets the side whether there is privilege that should be asserted. executive for the it is a qualified. one and while the former president has in his fights, ultimately that this isn't about lies in the current president. i think at the very sound decision. and based on president. it seems very unlikely that the
take it up. but as congress requested, if the court does decide think it, up at least do it quickly! >> joyce, do you see anything more than a political benefit -- arguing the committee doesn't have a the authority to seek a criminal referral? >> like so many other times, jonathan, we are seeing trump's lawyer said again and arguing to the audience of one. i'm sure he's very pleased with their pleading. but like barr, i don't think the supreme court will see much to this. it has to be the case that congress has the ability to investigate january 6th. if not democracy might just as well pack up and call it a day. if congress can't legitimately look into it insurrections, and determine how to prevent a repeat of what we all saw take place at the earliest part of this year. so, two reports and determine the nerve legitimate purpose here. there is no reason that congress can't make a referral
if evidence comes through his possession that had to leave the doj should see. there is no reason that there isn't any way officiate his purposes. here >> so barbara, by homing in on the criminal referral in the court of a public opinion, is a trump team making the pay case of partisan that the committee will drop it? or at least they hope? >> well i think, they are trying -- not to courts with the public opinion. it is talking points. to their advocates and their supporters to say this is all just a political crusade to take us down. this is not about legislation. this is about gotcha, as donald trump so we can refer to a criminal case. i don't think that's going to resonate very much so ever with court. courts have been repeatedly held, and congress may investigate everything that they most legislate as a court of appeals judge ruled her
opinion. it's hard to imagine anything, or in congress's wheel house, then an attack on its own house. it seems very clear. this is certainly within the scope of its investigation. i will agree with one thing, -- we all have to be the washington post. >> you know what's, i agree with you on that. but joyce, in all seriousness, what about the doj? what about the department of justice? are they completely new to the politics of something like this, as they are meant to be? >> you know, doj stock in trade, is their immunity to politics. sure thing -- they at once or inside that building on pennsylvania avenue, you are pretty much tone-deaf to what's going on to the outside. congress can certainly make a referral, if doj thinks is merited they'll pursue it, but if they don't they'll simply
ignore it because as a prosecutor that you. job you job is to follow the law, and the fall the evidence, and the politics simply don't enter into. it that was one of the biggest flaws in trump's administration, is their willingness to subvert doj's purposes for political gain. that is why mayor garland, and so many people are disappointed with this. that is why he had made such a rigid practice of not caving into what is political. so look, there's absolutely nothing wrong with congress referring the case of the doj. the doj makes refers to congress every year saying congress, we wish you pass new laws for. us it's a practice the doj engaged in many years, and it's not an doj's job to make law. but they certainly give advice to congress when they see something they like congress to do. they hear congress returning the favor, it is nothing improper and no reason the supreme court should hear this case by doing anything other
than sending this case -- over to the congressional committee. >> you know, speedy is the operative word here. barbara mike raid, joyce vance, thank you for joining us tonight. coming up in 2021 jurors convicted of killing george floyd and ahmaud arbery and daunte wright. but the act of justice is not yet achieved. michael and eisen will join us next. join us next life opens up. aleve it... and see what's possible. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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but no one would dare say racial justice have been achieved. it is work that can be achieved through screen events. a jury returning conviction, or election day 2008. it is a longer term project. and a broader one. one that encompasses not just the neo-nazi who murdered heather hire in charlottesville, but all the people who marched with hate in their hearts. the president, who defended them with both sides equivocation, the people who put that president and office, and let's be clear racial injustice is a wrong done to all of us. but, how is that wrong righted? how is it prepared? i find myself thinking about this after meeting with virginia governor ralph lauren before christmas. my new collagen -- in the blackface candle was embroiled in two years ago. what he did to educate himself, and make a man. mike learned ice and has also
been thinking about this. and sparked by the death of the thai fighter archbishop has been two to the day after christmas. in a new york times column dyson writes about a notion of restored us this. that includes but stands beyond huntsman. if races are willing to admit they're wrong and do the work, the community is made stronger by they're literal or symbolic return. punishment may feel cathartic those harmed by a wrong action. but it may not achieve real justice. the marlins tenth of restorationist a create a flourishing community that acknowledges the wrong done, and holds wrongdoers accountable, and invites them back in the community for which their fans estranged them. thus, black activists may gain an ally in the effort to come back racism. if white people, forgive in their, arrows are welcome back. the burden on black people is, by that measure, less. and joining me now is michael
eric dyson, professor vacuum or can start back build -- and author of entertaining race, performing blackness in america. professor dyson, thank you very much for coming tonight. you're piece in the times starts and charles south carolina, in 2015. the house of one -- a mother emmanuel who were shot to death by white supremacists, said i forgive you, and my family forgive. you talk about the power of that gesture? >> yes sir, thank you so much for having me. always great to be on -- your column is so poignant and so powerful. i believe that reverend thompson represented a strain in strand of african american theology, that is about the politics of forgiveness. it's about an existential affirmation that it is the right thing to do which is ideological certainty, among
certain religious figures in black communities. that forgiveness is quick to power to their own survival. but it's also the way of speaking back the suffering by saying that unmerited grace and favor that is bestowed upon someone's forgiveness, has political calculus. it has an effect upon. them that can relieve the poison and business and anger and resentment of the figures who have been wrong. but also, provide an opportunity where the community can heal by not engaging in vengeful acts, thoughts, and behaviors. but about restoring calm and -- to the community. but also making sure that the people who are engaging in such an and egregious act are also engaging. as well >> in both our comments, we both call talk about virginia governor north color. i was struck by something he told us in an editorial meeting
before christmas. this quotes the rings in my ears. i just can't see what the brain doesn't know. in this was something that he uses as a doctor and teaching medical students and residents. he used that lesson to help him see and no, why, why he was accused of what he was doing. it's so painful, what do you make of his efforts? his efforts at reconciliation and -- >> -- here is the thing, it was powerful for ralph north to do what -- that let's be real. one michael called me up politicians from the state called me up and said hey we should we pursue this? or should we offer forgiveness? or should be funded from path? i say deal with the forgiveness. because there is nothing better
than a white guy who understands that he's done the wrong thing, with pound his hands, and that is discretion can do something much more serious and powerful to make amends for what he did that was wrong. i think governor ralph northam is a perfect example of a guy who was concerned about black maternity. he was concerned about the taking down the robert e. lee statue. hughes concerned about restoring the lights to 10,000 felons who are primarily black. and on and on, he made good his promise to go on red wrestle with racial equity for the rest of his own term there. i think by far, he was a better choice to lead them in, as a wounded healer -- as a person who would've been pure in clean, and therefore put out because he's made a racial mistake. i think it was extremely important for him to remain and do the things that he did. and only a forgiven man has that kind of disposition to aggressively do it. we should also point out the
end of the death penalty should raise the penalty -- so i also thought this offensive driver license for not paying core fees. professor dyson, you understand the exhaustion of educating. >> absolutely, there is no questions about. trying to reach out and engage people. my students say hey am i here to educate you. i drove once in my class, am honored educated. oh yes i am, i am a professor. that's what i do. we have to continuously engage in the process. that kind of education. my lucky -- hello baker, joan robinson, james baldwin. they have all been involved with the vote on the situation passing the baton from one way to another. it is our ultimate irresponsibility to engage in the enlightenment and education of those around us. >> you know the thousands of people from all corners of america who marched after george floyd was killed, walk
and they do now? what is the role of the collective in restored of justice. >> that is a great. point i think they have to do is stigwood normative. if the eyes can't seem to break, it doesn't know the know some more stuff! breathe, jonathan doug parker, breathe! -- oh read people who can inform. you james baldwin who fired -- i would recommend everyone can to read that book to pile grapple with powerful ejaculate sum of politics of grief, and the speech of white people, the traumas we've endured. but the overcoming power of love to remake american society. without black forgiveness, america wouldn't be what it is today. >> that is for damn sure. we are quickly, professor dyson, what role does professor washington -- lawmakers of the street have to play in this conversation that
we're having? >> well it's extremely important. they are bickering, the futile feuding, and the nastiness of the resistance to try and engage the other. i'm not pretending that one-sided not one more responsible than the other, for who see now is the we're -- mostly all made up of on the right who refused to examine themselves to a prison of self respect. and savers -- and and humility. practice in that religious discourse, they are costly piping in america media. and they understand the politics of humility, and the grace and forgiveness and mercy that to motivate all of. us don't incarcerate people of color. don't take kids out of school or than they should. be don't punish people through over policing. find ways to forgive human frailty. hold those in power responsible
and accountable for the things that they do. he >> michael eric dyson, professor dyson, thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you very much for your kind words about my call. thank you. tonight's last word, is next. he is next he woo hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ with 30 grams of protein. aleve-x. it's fast, powerful long-lasting relief with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it... and see what's possible. ho ho ho!
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officials say at least 580 homes have already been destroyed. along with a shopping center, and a hotel. -- this began when power lines toppled outside the town of boulder. around 11 am local time this morning starting a grass fire. the boulder county sheriff said the fire began consuming football sized areas, quote in seconds. scientists told nbc news quote, it's generally hard to believe this is happening in late december, in boulder. the areas densely populated with subdivisions, and stores, but so far just one injury has been reported. and as you saw neural brett's report, just how densely populated that area is with that with those house in the distance. we are thinking and praying for
the folks there in boulder. that is tonight's last, were you can catch me again on sunday morning at 10 am eastern, on the sunday show that's right here on msnbc. until then, have a happy new year, and thank you so much for watching. the 11th hour starts now. now good evening once again, i'm julia maxwell. day 345 of the biden administration. we are now on course to enter the court of the new third year of the pandemic under an avalanche of covid infections. tonight, another record has been set with over half 1 million new cases. and the new numbers of children hospitalized, with the virus is higher tonight than at any point in the entire pandemic. the overwhelming driver of all of this, omicron. although delta is still very much with us! and one very medical expert
warns, we are in for a rough road ahead. >> we are into a viral blizzard right now that's impacting all 50 states roughly the same time. some areas were hit harder than others. but in the end the next 60 weeks we are all gonna see this large surge of cases. it's very likely the 20 or more percent of health care workers are gonna get infected, even though they've even in. vaccinated our entire system, and all of our lives are gonna be impacted over how many sick people are out -- over the house and what is being. testing what is being. testin yet there are new signs. this outbreak may soon eased the new york times reports that in south africa the omicron wave has peaked. and columbia university researchers tell the washington post that they're indication infections could peak here by