tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC December 22, 2021 10:00pm-11:00pm PST
>> all right, that is gonna do it for us for tonight, i will see you again tomorrow, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. per mila jayapal is here tonight, so fair warning, we might talk about you. it's possible. your name might come up. >> i was just going to say, it's only fair that you are having her given how much you and i have been talking about her with her not being here for
the last couple of nights. it's only fair. >> yeah, she's either on a show or we are talking about her. this is even more important tonight especially important at this hour, our first guest tonight is going to be congressman james clyburn, this is very important because just over an hour ago, he released a statement in a tweet saying that he tested positive for covid. it's been a tough situation for him because he had to miss his granddaughter's wedding, but he did say he is asymptomatic and the great news as of us sitting here right now, his feeling well right now to join us right now at 10:00. and, i'm always happy to see him, i've never been happier to see him then when i am going to see him tonight on the show. >> that is fantastic, i saw that notice from congressman clyburn, i was happy to see that he said that he was asymptomatic, but of course my heart leapt into my throat when i saw that notice.
please give him my love, and i'm glad that he's okay. >> he is a healthy 81 year old and he is triple-vaccinated, so we think it is going to be fine. >> right on, thank you, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. we will go straight to a joining us now is democratic congressman james clyburn, he is the house majority. congressman clyburn, always happy to see you, i have never been more happy to see you then tonight because when i read that statement about you testing positive and you said right away that you were asymptomatic which is great news, but we always worry when we hear something like that. how are you feeling right now? >> i feel great. except for nasal sounds, i have been fine. i have not had any fever. no aches and pains, and quite frankly, i was pretty surprised getting ready for my
granddaughter's wedding, my daughter establish this protocol for everyone to get tested and we were sitting around [inaudible] it was at one point positive, at one point not positive, so i got concerns about that and i called my physician and told him what i had just experienced. he advised me to get the pcr. they got the results back at 8:30 this evening and i immediately put a statement out. >> one of the problems that you've identified and announcement about this tonight, it took 56 hours to get the
results of this test. >> yes, it took -- i took it out 11 in the morning send it to the lab, and i don't know when it went to the lab, but i learned the sold by email around 8:30 this evening. and for people to effectively live their lives based on the results on the test, we will have to get those results much faster. >> i would hope so, but you know, this time of year, the lines overcrowded, the testing lines are very long and i suspect that the vaccinations and boosters are the same. and so, i do believe that during ordinary times it would not take as long. but because there are so many people wanting -- like me, want to get the result,
hoping to get it in time, hoping it would be negative, but the doctor told me that because of his experiences we have to operate as if it will be positive and isolate. and so i've been isolating since sunday. >> very hard time to isolate, as you said, your granddaughters wedding, and this comes after last week's, just last week you tested negative prior to president biden coming to south carolina. >> yes, and you know, i've been in and out of the white house for the last several weeks and i've been tested every time i got ready to go. it's always been negative. it just happens that after the weekend was over we went down to atlanta and preparation for the wedding, and of course there was a little game going
on down there that the state was involved in, and i let my guard down or something and may have not been wearing the mask. i have no idea exactly how this was contacted, but i got it and we will deal with it. >> it seems that the lesson for you, you got tested on thursday and then for sunday a lot of people just would've thought, i was tested on thursday i don't have to be tested again for the wedding. >> those people know my daughter jennifer, and since it's her daughter getting married, she brought the box of test with her and all of a sad around the table during the testing, and of course when i left to get back to the wedding she made it clear to me that you would not have me back for
the wedding, but she wanted me tested and not to come back until i got a clean bill of health which i did not get and so i never got back to the wedding. >> there are so many lessons in the story about how family can take care family by getting tested, by insisting on testing for various gatherings like a wedding. >> yes. yes. i have three daughters and they are all that way. for she was traveling back from washington, i think you know her, and we were talking back and forth, i just got this funny feeling that i will get tested in the morning but i just got a funny feeling i may end up like you. well she did get tested yesterday morning it did come back negative and she was not
going to run the risk of being around me. the family is just that way. this is the time of year, that will devise everybody who has not been tested, please, get tested. i've been tested, i've been vaccinated, i've gotten a booster and as the experts have said, if you get the vaccinations both of them, get the booster then the virus is no more than a cold. i haven't experienced anything else. so i'm going with the science, and i would advise everybody, get vaccinated, get the booster as the president has been saying for the last couple of days, and make sure that we take care of each other especially at this time of
year. this is the time of year that we do share, and we should share not just in giving presents, but sharon giving life experiences, share in giving to each other the kind of knowledge and experience that would help people long before the season is over. >> congressman james clyburn, so glad to see you tonight, thank you very much for, in effect, delivering this very, very important service announcement about your experience, your family's experience with this. you taught a lot of people tonight, a very important set of lessons going into the holidays, thank you very much, congressman. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thank you. thank you, thank you, merry christmas, thank you. today the house select committee's investigation into the january 6th attack on the
capitol requested testimony from a second house republican, this time it was congressman jim jordan, in a letter to jordan, benny thompson said quote, we understand that you had at least one and possible communications with president trump on january six, we would like to discuss each such communication with you in detail. that is something that has never happened, discussing those calls in details with jim jordan, here is what happens when you try to ask jim jordan about talking to donald trump on january 6th. >> did you talk to the former president at day? >> i've talked to the former president umpteenth town, thousands -- >> i mean on january 6th? >> countless times, i never talk about what we talk about, i just don't think that's appropriate just like i don't think it's important to talk about what happens in the conferences. i talked to him numerous times -- >> i mean on january six, congressman. >> i mean, yes, i've talked to
the president so many -- i can't remember all the times of talk to him, but i have talked to him. >> and the day after that interview, last summer, jim jordan was asked about it again. >> did you speak with him again before, during or after the capitol was attacked? >> i would have to go -- >> i spoke to him that day, i think after. i don't know if i spoke to him in the morning, i just don't know. >> that was on july 28th, on october 20th, the house rules committee, determine jim refer to that interview when he asked jim jordan this question. >> so my question is, you have had 84 days since that interview, to go back and check that record, when did you speak to the former president on january six. did you talk to him before, during or after the attack on the capitol? >> of course i talk to the
president, i have been clear about that. i talked to him all the time. paul this is not about me mister chairman, i know you want to make it about me. of course i talk to the president, i talk to him that day, i have been clear about that, i don't recall the number of times, but it is not about me. i know you want to make it about me. >> did you talk to the president, former president, before, during or after the attack on the capital, or was it all three, the reason i asked is because you had 84 days since you said you couldn't remember that you would check. so if you could just clarify for the record, was it before, during or after the attack? >> i talk to him after the attack. >> not before or during? >> right. >> so my understanding is that you said to our reporter from political that you spoke to him during, so is that after the attack? >> during. no i didn't speak to him during the attack. >> jim jordan was not under oath in the rules committee, he will be under oath if and when
he testifies for the january six committee. chairman thompson's letter to jim jordan's as quote, public reporting suggest that you may also have information about meetings with white house officials and the dan prized and in november and december 2020, and early january 2021 about strategist for overturning the results of the 2020 election. we would also like to ask you about any discussions involving the possibility of presidential pardons for individuals involved in any aspect of the january 6th or the planning for january six. one of the text messages to white house chief of staff mark meadows that the committee has released a text message from jim jordan saying that on january six vice president mike pence should throw out and off of joe biden's electoral vote so that donald trump could steal the presidency. sherman thompson's letter offers the dates of january 3rd, january 4th for jim jordan to submit to an interview. congressman jordan responded to
the committee's letter this evening when a fox host asked if he would quote take a walk or would you sit down and speak to them? >> jordan said i mean, we just got the letter today, we're going to review the letter. congressman jordan changed the subject to the situation at the southern border. today president joe biden signed into law a bill from this point forward that allows the capitol police chief to directly call for national guard help in the event of an emergency, the capitol police will never have to wait for a republican president to decide if or when to save the capital. capitol police chief tom manager says the department is quote grateful for the additional safety measures. joining our discussion tonight's democratic congressman eric swalwell he served as a house impeachment manager, of donald trump.
congress swalwell, i think you know we would be surprised to jim jordan's company commits in any way with the jury. lawrence, i'm not a harvard lawyer. but the way that he has talked about his involvement, certainly makes him look -- the way that he is now moonwalk-ing away from responsibilities as to why -- probably make some complicit. this is an incident of workplace violence. let us just step back. in any workplace -- if this has happened. if you worked with contact with someone who is responsible for the workplace violence. if you did nothing, wrong and you had nothing to do with it. you would raise your hand and say, let me help make this play safer. -- on the u.s. capitol.
the fact that he does not want to cooperate, i think puts him in the category of the people who had some knowledge of o'donnell trump wanted to do. and, by the way, lawrence this guy is not the first time he has been accused of witnessing a crime and not wanting to report or help investigators. >> members of the ohio state arresting team, working in the system college, said under oath that he knew that priors on this team were being sexually abused by a physician. and he did absolutely nothing about it. that is on the record in that case. when you hear him trying to answer this very simple question, when did you talk to donald trump on january 6th? before during or after? you seem stumbling through that every single time it comes up. adjusting -- to maybe it was after all that. imagine a witness like that,
being forced to answer questions like, that under oath. >> there is only only one version of the truth. and he cares about that version to be told. that is why he is so evasive. that is clear. to me, as a former prosecutor, i've seen so many of these witnesses. it just goes to their consciousness of guilt. this is of attack on the capitol. people died that day, the election was almost not certified. and he has opportunity to help his country. to be on the side of law and order. but instead, like so many of his republican colleagues, are choosing to be on the side of chaos. they are choosing violence over voting. we are hearing -- taking the second amendment. overturn the election, throw out, bring harm to selected officials. this is very dangerous, and that's why it's all the more
important that the commissioner stands by what happened that. day >> it seems that the committee now, is moving on the republican members. it's hard to believe they will stop at these two. congressman barry and congressman jordan. >> that's right, we also have -- who spoke at the rally himself. and then lauren boebert, who was tweeting out the location of the speaker at the house, even though she was being asked not to do. that they've started at a voluntary posture, asking that they have nothing to hide. but they do have to subpoena witnesses. and i hope they treat these republican colleagues as they would treat anyone. else show them no favor, let's just make sure the rule of law and law in order prevails. >> just explain for us, the
committee's approach to this. they know, we all know, that it is highly likely that jim jordan will defy the subpoena and try to drag this out for as long as possible. a year or more in court. but, that doesn't mean, if you are on the committee -- it doesn't mean that you sit there and say let's not bother with him because he will not cooperate. you still have that co-op obligation -- that you at least try to secure that testimony. >> they don't want to leave anything on the field here, lawrence, to use a sports analogy. also recognizing that we are going into an election where republicans are threatening more violence and changing the rules and many states. we have one shot to get this right and save this democracy. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you very much for joining us tonight. thank you. coming up, the star of my favorite recurring segment on
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it was actually tuesday night. when we watched, pessimism, slash a real-ism and optimism collide once again. in what has become my favorite recurring segment, on the rachel maddow show formula jayapal, bringing her confident optimism in response to rachael's strong doubts, to put it mildly about congress put passing the build back better bill. congressman jayapal will join us in a moment. last night's democrats, most of whom, have left washington in recess -- channeling and jayapal
optimism. made a commitment to bring the voting rights bill to a vote on the floor in early january. and change the rules in to do that. senator schumer also to bring a version of the build back better bill, passed by house representatives in the senate floor. will then be open to any amendments that can pass by a simple majority vote. as such legislation always is. it is unclear, what version of the bill senator schumer will bring to the floor. after senator joe manchin said on sunday he will vote no, on a current version of the government. after some suspense yesterday of or whether joe manchin will pop a spate, senator manchin did indeed show up and insisted that he is consistent and explaining to his colleagues, his problems with the legislation including his preference for more taxes on the superrich to pay for the
bill. and the offices of senators and house members are separated just by the east lawn of the capitol building. much like a college campus with a central crash the area. but for members of those two bodies, it usually feels like an ocean separates the house and the senate. very few members outside of leadership, ever speak to members of the other body. house members, tend to be left in permanent bewilderment of the senate, all senators feel the same way about the house. as congressional careers go -- congressman from eulogy a, paul is still at the job. having been there for five years. i know, what i mean is nancy pelosi's been there for 34. years chuck schumer, first of the house -- and then it is the senator's been there 40 years. leahy, has been there for 47 years.
so five years, five years are still considered a new. there i have never seen a house number, in the fifth year of service, being a major player in the most important legislation of the year until permian jayapal as the leader of the congress -- has been negotiating the build back better bill. not just with her house colleagues, but with the president of the united states at the white house. with the chairman of the senate budget committee, bernie sanders. and most importantly, one-on-one with senator joe manchin. one of the reasons, congressman jayapal, is open to closed-door negotiations at the highest level. if all those people -- say that she is the best public speaker about the progress of difficult legislation. she is always clear about the objectives of the legislation. she and her own strategic objectives. and she never publicly this
presses anger towards anyone who is actually -- she is actually trying to legislate with. so, if you are hoping for someone to publicly vent your anger at joe manchin, there are plenty other members of congress who are willing to do that for you. but it will pramila paul is trying to do for you, is get a deal with joe manchin, that will allow joe biden to sign the most important climate legislation in the history of this country, along with any other provisions of the bill, her negotiating skills can deliver. and the people, who are publicly venting their anger at joe manchin, are not going to be in a room when that happens. joining us now, a member of congress discretion with meat rachel maddow described as a ridiculous constructivist. pramila jayapal, of washington state. she is the leader of the congressional progressive
caucus. and leader of the optimism caucus. thank you very much for joining us tonight, we really appreciate it. >> thank you so much lawrence, you are making me blush and that's not easy to do. >> so you have had more conversations with joe manchin than many of the senate democrats have since sunday. you have spoke to him i believe on monday morning, you spoke to him again. what can you tell us about your -- with joe manchin and as of tonight. i've only >> spoken to him once he called me, i think maybe it was on tuesday. -- maybe it was monday, i forget. now he wanted to talk about what he had said, and i frankly said the same thing to him that i put in my statement. which is around here, lawrence, you know that you really owe only as good as your word. senator manchin, had according
to president biden -- and this is what he told me and the progressive caucus. senator manchin had committed to the framework, that president biden unveiled the day before he went to europe for cop26. senator manchin committed to that framework. the president said this is the thing that he committed to. this is less than what we wanted. but i was able to get the progressive caucus to endorse that framework. we all feel so desperately urgent, about getting childcare commitment needed. getting insolence to people who need to pay 35 bucks instead of $1,000. getting universal pre-k. getting hearing aid to seniors and taking on climate change. the housing -- so many things are in build back better. and we endorse that framework. and the proceeding under the understanding that that was the framework that would be translated to legislation, that would then pass the senate with 50 votes including senator manchin. i went through all that with
senator manchin, and said how incredibly in this pointed i was that what he had promised to the president was not happening. and i'm not going to characterize what he said because i think you should do that for himself. but i think, lawrence, the thing here is we only need 50 votes. and that's why we negotiated for so long to get 50 votes. because this is, as a reminder to everyone that's watching, this is the presidents agenda. this is the democratic agenda. and 85% of the presidents the agenda that he rolled out when he came to speak to us in february, in front of congress, is obtained in the build back better act. so it's urgent that we get it done! and i can just say, that i think my hope here -- and what i'm working towards, is that we look at the framework to be fair to senator manchin. the house passed legislation does have a few things that he did not agree to.
we put that in there. and the assumption was, that the senate would then take that bill, and our senate colleagues that would try to convince him about those few things, and they if they could get him on board, then great we will do that. otherwise, at a minimum would minimum pass the framework. that what should happen. my hope, is that where we should still get. two so i did reach out to senator manchin on the call that we had. he called me, i don't ask for the -- call and he called me and i was happy to take a call. i said to him, i'm going to send you that framework. the president said they committed to. and you tell me, what do you committed to those things are not. you tell me, while they're there something in there, that there you did not commit to. so we can understand exactly where we are working from. i hope we can go back to somewhere in that framework and with the house has and let's get this through as quickly as possible. but lawrence, i do have to say, that i am an optimist and i'm always happy to be the optimism
the chief of the rachel maddow show or anywhere else. i am also very realistic, and i do think that we also can't judge hang our hat on the legislation passing. we thought we had an agreement, and now we don't. what's to say whether we are gonna get an agreement. and so we did, the executive board of the print and so cautious, we met two nights ago and put out a statement today that comes from all of us the executive board, to say that we have to push back on build back better. and we have to have it to -- strategy where we also have the president of the united states to use executive power that he has, to implement as many executive actions as he can to immediately lower costs and address health care concerns. because of surging omicron. and to mediately show the world that we are serious about our leadership on climate change. now there may be something that we come up with as well, but those are three categories that the executive board felt very
strongly, the president could immediately take executive action on. and i'm very happy to say lawrence, that we saw the beginning of that, with the moratorium on student dip on a pause. we are calling for another cancellation of $50,000 of student debt. which would have enormous cost of impact on the economy, but most importantly we would give people some certainty in this time of tremendous economic uncertainty, to put money in their pockets. because this is going to be a little bit longer before we get build back better passed, assuming we do. >> let me ask something about knowing join manchin, you know better than most house members know him. your reaction to rich mcconnell, saying he admires joe manchin. and he thinks the solution to joe manchin's problem is for him to, quote come across the aisle and join us. where he will be treated with respect. what's your reaction to mitch
mcconnell's public invitation to joe manchin, to join the publican party. , to join th if mcconnell's been recording joe manchin for a long time. it's no secret that joe manchin want as a democrat in the state, that trump won by a lot. one of the first times that i met senator manchin, we started with just talking about us. asking about me? and i asked about him. he talked about his district and how he is the only democrat there that's been elected. how -- what that means for him? obviously, i think mitch mcconnell's -- has been quoting joe manchin a lot. but i do think, that at the end of the day. joe manchin is choosing to run as a democrat. he is of course on a very different place in the democratic spectrum than i am. but i respect that he is choosing to run as a democrat. and i hope, that he understands,
and i believe he does. i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. that he wants the president to be successful. and that he wants democrats to be successful. he is a democrat that has chosen to be in the democratic party. and that i hope it would is going to get us across the finish line with build back better. because we, lawrence, have had a multiple toot of siege across the country. and -- have been at the forefront along with the progressives. pushing for build back better. because they want to go home and tell their moms and they are going to have childcare. they want to be of the tell people that they're going to have $35 for insulin. they want to be able to invest in housing. all the things a build back better, i think that is really really important for senator manchin to understand, he is not just voting for himself. he is voting for the country. he is voting for joe biden. he is voting for all of us in the house that have to run it every two years. and i think he wants us to understand's decision, we
certainly want him to understand ours. which is why, his commitment to the president, on that framework, was so very important. because it was a direct commitment to the president of the united states, who then made a public and direct commitment to progressives, and to the country that we were going to get this framework -- the equivalent of that framework pact in build back better. >> i for one could go on for the rest of the hour, inside the game my new show here. especially to the point that you mentioned, that joe manchin called you, and i will just say to the audience that within that world -- that is a very important fact in what we are talking about here. that joe manchin respects you in that way, wants to maintain the legislative relationship with you. so he knew that he needed to make a call to you, after he said those things on tv. he knew would be upsetting to you.
and that's also a tribute to the way you are regarded by the major players in this legislative endeavor. you don't have to comment on that at all, unless you want to. >> well i will just say, lawrence, that i have not said anything against joe manchin. all these months, i have really have not. and because i believe that we need in the senate -- we need every vote in the senate. that includes joe manchin's vote. i have had, good conversations with him. i respect him as a person. i think that we agree to disagree on a number of things, many months ago, but those are things that are not in the legislation. as much as i would like them to be! but i understand we have to get the votes. but i think when i put out that statement monday, and it was a very strong statement, about this moment. where joe manchin made a commitment to the president.
and i believe the president, and his word to me, that joe manchin made this commitment. and he went back on it! and i will tell you, i was incredibly disappointed. i think when i put out that statement, i think that caught his eye because it knows -- that's not something i would generally do. to tell you the truth, i try to do it in a way that is respectful of people. but also respectful of the truth. i am not going to sugarcoat anything. i am not going to lie about what is factually happening, and wanting to be clear that there was a commitment. i still believe that. lawrence and the president told me that actually, president joe manchin to commit -- to he actually did say that there was a commitment that framework. and so, i think we just have to be real about that. because it affects how we negotiate going into the future. if joe manchin wants to be
taken seriously, then we have to be able to have some level of trust that those negotiations are going to mean something at the end. >> from illegitimate, paul teaching all of us how is done. thank you very much for joining us. i really appreciate it! >> thank you lawrence! >> thank you. coming up chuck schumer has committed to working a -- in early january and trying to change the rules to senate passing in necessary -- will join us next. n us next. ... crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond. real cowboys get customized car insurance with liberty mutual, so we only pay for what we need. -hey tex, -wooo. can someone else get a turn? yeah, hang on, i'm about to break my own record. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
(music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ >> joining the discussion is democratic congressman of texas, in his old job he was a voting rights attorney, congressman already, chuck schumer on a call said voting rights is coming to the senate floor. if the republicans tried to block it out of a 60 threshold, we will vote, we as democrats
will have a vote on a rules change. that doesn't mean he has the 50 votes, you only need a majority, doesn't mean he has the 50 that he needs plus kamala harris. he will have a vote on a rules change if necessary to have a vote on voting rights. >> yeah. i also recently had a conversation with senator manchin, actually, about voting rights. and i can tell you i think he feels strongly about voting rights, he's a former secretary of state. he recognizes some of the things that are happening in the states around the country in trying to subvert elections, he is moving significantly in terms of what he thinks we should do to change the rules. now, we still would have to get senator sinema on board to get that down. but i think senator manchin understands what is going on in terms of our democracy. i think there is some good progress to be announced here, i'm not gonna say that we are all the way there, but this is the number one issue facing us really around the world everyone is wondering what will happen with american democracy. >> in terms of the agenda, it
was waiting behind that one wave wrote in the senate, waiting behind build back better, and now that build back better has been stalled, chuck schumer is saying that voting rights come first. he is saying that it is the first thing they will do in the senate. >> right. and he made it the first bill coming out of the senate, it was, no one wanted to have a conversation about a rules change when we're trying to get the vote for build back better. we're still working on that, and i talked to senator manchin about build back better as well. now recognizing that the attacks on our democracy are ramping up. they are not going away. donald trump was just in dallas a couple of days ago saying the election was stolen from him, and pushing the big lie again in texas,. we have two months to go, three
months to go until our primary elections for the next election. >> congressman colin allred, thank you very much for joining us tonight, we appreciated. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. coming up laurie garrett will join us to sort through all the new information about omicron and what it means to you and your holiday plans, laurie garrett is next. garrett is next. hey joshie... wrinkles send the wrong message. help prevent them with downy wrinkleguard. feel the difference with downy. firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. - oh...oh. - what's going on? - oh, darn! - let me help. with no sticky feeling. lift and push and push! there... it's up there. hey joshie... wrinkles send the wrong message. help prevent them with downy wrinkleguard.
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covid, and in particularly in the context of omicron that you do not want to go to. >> joining us now is a laurie garrett, assigns reporter covering up pandemics, she is assigned contributor. laura, the news of the day includes this, a new drug, this new treatment for covid that pfizer has, a pill that the fda has authorized, it has had tremendous success in keeping people out of the hospital. what more do we know about, it how soon will people be able to get it? >> well, the problem with this exciting new oral pill, so you don't have to inject anything, for change, is that it is not readily available right now. it will be sometime before we have a real stockpile in availability of the united states. of course, immediately other countries are saying, what about us? so the pressure will ramp up to
make it more widely available around the world. and as doctor fauci said today in the white house briefing, it's not an easy drug to make. it's not something that can be ramped up too far greater capacity overnight. so, it's good news but mixed, it adds to our moratorium that we have that is reasonable, but no real home run drug. no real something there that is affordable, easy to take, easy to stockpile and available for people all over the world. >> there's also reporting in the new york times about challenges involving monoclonal antibody treatments that some of them don't seem to work against omicron? >> only one of them shows any efficacy. because, omicron is an escaped mutant, it has figured out how to escape the immune system so you throw a weapon at it that is an immune system weapon and
it is already figured out how to mutate around it. so, we really have one monoclonal antibody that shows much efficacy at all. >> and, just for the audience, they should know that that one is the one that is made by by -- >> its them, yes. >> it's their product. >> lawrence, let me explain where we are right now, we are up to 235,000 cases a day now. latest projections of the ensemble group which is multiple different algorithms used by different institutions around the world pooled by cdc scientists to come up with a rough average, and the projection is that sometime around the first week of january, we could hit around 1 million cases a day, which is
something that outgoing nih director francis collins forecast and everyone says that sounds crazy, this thing is going so fast. it's just mind-boggling, i'm here in new york city and every day i'm hearing of more close friends, more socialists, more events, all canceled or sick, or ailing because of this virus. it is just incredibly contagious. >> laurie garrett, thank you very much for joining us once again, always appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. and tonight's last word is next. d is next , we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide.
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