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saves lives. mass deaths, say, on the order of 800,000 americans, that's what happens without the vaccine. and dr. fauci and bill gates have security details because sometimes the and april 1968 in memphis tennessee the reverend dr. martin luther king junior was assassinated. the man who killed him was james oral ray, seen here in handcuffs. james earl rate was a rabid segregationist, he was a real racist. he had been kicked out of th
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army in the late 40s he had been in and out of prison for years, he had actually escaped from prison in missouri in 1967, the year before he killed king. after his escape from prison in missouri he spent time in mexico, he also spent time in california. by 1968 he was reportedly really intoxicated with the reactionary presidential campaign of george wallace. the segregationist alabama governor who ran for president in 1968 on an anti civil rights segregation white supremacist platform. james earl ray volunteered for the campaign, but even beyond that he was increasingly committed to the racist cause more broadly. and in the spring of 1968, james earl ray moved to atlanta. he had been moving on the west coast, he moved to atlanta where martin luther king lived, and where he preached at this
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church james or earl ray appears to have gone to atlanta specifically in pursuit of dr. king. and in april of 1968, king took a trip to -- memphis tennessee. it was widely publicized that he was going to do, and he went to memphis to support these striking sanitation workers there. james earl ray followed martin luther king to memphis, and he killed him there. he shot and killed dr. king as king stood on the balcony of a motel. and for much of america, it must have seemed like time stopped in that moment. part of our history absolutely did stop in that moment. but it did not and for james earl ray, because after he shot martin luther king on that balcony in memphis in 1968. he got away. he got in his car, drove away, drove back to atlanta where he
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had been living. and he spent three more days driving north. he strove into canada, he stayed in canada for a month. somehow got himself at least one fake passport there, he flew to europe, spent some time in portugal of all places. he ended up in london. it wasn't until two months after he had in that fascinated martin with their killing that he was finally arrested. it was arrested at the airport in london as he was preparing to fly on to yet another country. james earl ray was extradited back to the united states to face trial, he admitted he did, he confessed. he was sentenced to 99 years in prison for the assassination of martin luther king. but then a couple of things of no, happened thereafter. one thing to know that happened thereafter is that he escape from prison, he had previously been an escapee and even after he was sentenced for killing martin with the king his script again. he escaped from prison in
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tennessee, he managed to last around three days before he was recaptured. that kept another year on to his sentence, another thing to know about him post conviction, post sentencing. is that after his trial, after his sentencing he changed lawyers. he got himself a new lawyer. a like-minded lawyer, or another real segregationist, another we are though. and his new lawyer not only represented him during the time that he escaped from prison, but he and his new lawyer also cooked up the scheme by which they would recant james earl race confession. even though he had confessed, he had pled guilty, they took it back. they said actually james earl ray -- moment of madness. he didn't do it and said they cooked up the scheme by which they would blame the assassination of martin luther king on a mysterious man named raul. who is raul? there is no role. they made up that much about
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him, but they never got much further with it than that. >> james earl ray is in solitary at -- mountain prison in tennessee. the last of the five men who broke out with him last friday night was caught this morning. today wray's lawyer was on hand, so was eric returns to report what the lawyers had to say about his client. this is jack or shaw, he's james earl ray's attorney and he talked to ray this morning, he told reporters that wray is okay physically, exhausted mentally, and sorry he tried to escape. he said there was no conspiracy to help reyes cape. >> i think we can discount the outside help. with any -- i hope there did be -- >> did he plan escape? >> no. >> who did? >> don't know. >> wray refused to talk to these investigators for the house and assassinations committee today. he will talk to them later,
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kirk shaw says. chris also says that he has a picture of the man named raul. according to kirk shot it was the man behind the brains to kill martin thinking. he says he will show this picture sometime in the next two months after he has asked the court for a new trial for his client. >> oh yes. a picture of raul. the real killer. there was no role. james earl ray and his lawyer jack or shaw who you saw there, the man in the light sioux and colonel sanders hair. he -- they didn't succeed in this plan to get him a new trial to blame the assassination of martin luther king on some made up guy raul. none of it worked. they never got him out of prison. he died in prison in 1990. what happened to his lawyer? what happened to that guy jack her shot?
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>> interesting story turns out at the same time this fight was dying in prison and assassinating - might luther king around that same time 1998, jack kershaw sort of started a new vocation. i don't know if it's something he ever got paid for, but it's something he was actually like foolish he won in a spent his time doing now the lawyer jack kershaw himself was and our gorgets a geisha nest. he was a member of the white citizens council, he was actually the founder of the league of the south in 1994. there's no considerate jack kershaw founded in 1994. and around 1998, when his famous kai james was dying in prison, having been sentenced for killing martin luther king, around 1998, that lawyer jack kershaw completed his -- artistic masterpiece.
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a statue, a gigantic 25 foot statue that he made with bathroom caulk, with household materials of some kind. i say it was his masterpiece because i think it was the best he could do. doesn't mean that i think it was good. honestly it was terrible. but it was his masterpiece. a buddy of his even said on the record to a local news reporter that he too believed that jack her shot was a pretty terrible artist. he too believed that this proud to put it up on his property in tennessee for the worst possible reasons. >> he is an artist, mediocre. as a thinker, he was way ahead of a lot of people of his time. shaq got some materials that i used to make bathtubs with and he started with a butter knife. that is the end result that you see right there.
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>> to a lot of people this monument as a symbol of racism. >> i've been accused of being racist. and if i was racist why would i -- >> i still consider this meaning tennessee, to be the confederate states of america says the man. that is how he explained why he put up that sculpture we just put up. made from babcock and stuff. shaped with a butcher knife he says. that's why you put up that statue that was created by the lawyer for the man who killed martin luther king. it is a statue that depicts a man on a horse, and although there is no way you would know this if i didn't tell you, the man it depicts is a man named nathan bedford forrest. was nathan bedford forrest a plantation or an, or a wealthy slave trader, a general in the
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confederate army and after the civil war was over he became the first grand wizard of the ku klux klan and that is why for the past 20 plus years, this 1998 that has been on the outskirts of tennessee this hideous 25-foot pulse that you of the founder of the klan. sitting on a piece of private property overlooking interstate 65. you really can't see it from i-65. and local residents and officials have had a lot of -- for the past 20 years. it has all these different flags from all the various confederate fleets flying around, was lots of confederate flags themselves, and nathan bedford forrest on a horse with a gun and a sword in the middle of it. one and perhaps at least this day could plant some tall trees along that side of the interstate to shield the sting
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from passing traffic. the guy on his private property the statues that, he said if the state did try to occluded the view of that masterpiece from interstate 65, he had a plan. he put all his confederate flags up on taller flagpoles. he would do whatever it would take to keep this thing on view. >> i've got some 1800 foot flagpoles. i could put them up starting tomorrow. and they're going to have to bill a hell of a wall, and a hell of a bunch of trees to -- slavery was a first form of social security. if you stop and think about it a minute was a cradle to grave proposition. they never had it so good as far as job security to begin with it wasn't the best of job security, but it had benefits. -- yeah slavery sure has some benefits. so why not honoring.
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with a 25 foot tall founder of the cline confederate general statue and all of the confederate flag. that man, his name is bill doris who owned the land. who put up the klan founder statue on his property. made by his friend jack kershaw. this whose property that was, who erected the statues in the five pulse. he died a year ago. this time last year. his death actually made some awe, isn't that cute headlines at the time. because in his will he left $5 million for the care of his border collie, who is actually an adorable dog. he left $5 million to cover the care of his 12 year old dog for the rest of her life, which is awe. the thing is he didn't actually have $5 million. he wrote that in his will but he didn't have $5 million to
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get to the dog or anyone else. the executor of his well had to go get that figure reduced, because there wasn't that kind of money for the dog. it appears the man may have died in that, a trailer park he owns near his home was reportedly being sold to pay off the debts of his estate. and it seems like, i'm just guessing here, but i'm guessing that may be his three acre parcel of land overlooking interstate 65, the one with the big nathan bedford forrest statue on it. i'm guessing that might need to be sold as well to pay off the debts against his estate. and the reason i'm guessing that property needs to be sold, is that because -- it's because today finally, this morning, after the things that for more than 20 years on that side of the interstate. after people painted a pink in 2017. they threw pink paint over it. somebody spray-painted monster on in 2020. after all the upset over having
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the founder of the klan looming 25 feet tall as the gatekeeper to nashville on an interstate highway all these years. this morning, today, finally came down. the executor of this guy as well, had apparently ordered the removal of the statue this morning. and whether or not that finally happened today because as i suspect, it might be hard to sell that property with a giant hideous pink linesman on it. whether that was a property values decision -- frankly everyone who owns property in the surrounding i-65 international probably saw their property values go get a little boost today when the hideous clansmen finally came down. a local senator who had petitioned to get this thing taken down, she told the tennessean newspaper today, quote, this has been a national embarrassment. i am so excited. this is great news. it is just so hurtful to people,
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not to mention its heinous flee ugly. >> fair enough. when the heinous lee ugly 25 year foot tall statue of the klan founder came down today in tennessee. some local news outlets reported the statue would be held in storage, or possibly put up for sale. but, yeah i know. that thing is not going up for sale. it's not even making it to the back of a pick up check, let alone to a climate controlled storage. it turns out you can tell from the way they took it down, that it was made out of toothpaste. it crumbled and fell apart as soon as they toppled it. so, now it's gone. and if you don't believe me that this is still a sensitive subject for some people, look at what happened elsewhere in tennessee just in the past few weeks. it was back in 2017 that
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another statue, a proper statue of the same ku klux klan grand wizard, another statue of nathan bedford forrest was taken down from a park in memphis tennessee. health science park in memphis used to be called forrest park, with two ours, named for nathan bedford forrest that park had this huge statue of nathan bedford forrest in 2017. they did have one complication and taking it down in 2017, which is that was nathan bedford forrest actually physically buried underneath it. nathan bedford forrest his body and of his wife are right underneath that statue in memphis park. when they started digging after they took down the statue, it turns out the directions they had weren't exactly right. they weren't exactly under the statue, they were under the plaza where the statue had been. it took them a while to find caskets. they did finally found the remains, they made a plan to rebury them earlier just this fall just a few weeks.
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but then look at what they had to do in order to get it done. local nbc five in memphis, tennessee, got an exclusive look at this. this is just astonishing. and again, remember, this is the confederate general, wealthy slave trader, first grand wizard of the ku klux klan, nathan bedford forrest. >> all of a, along with the soil, transferred into temporary caskets for transporting. with the remains of a man both reviled and revered and the weight of a city divided on its shoulders, taylor ordered his staff to place the caskets in two different vehicles. >> i have my staff simply the site, drive in different directions and i'll call you and tell you where. >> they drove around about 40 minutes to avoid anyone following them before taylor directed them to hand to his tennessee funeral home. taylor said he changed the locks on his home where he kept the remains and quietly remarried them in the cemetery as he waited to learn where the
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forrest would be laid to rest permanently. but the forrest decided to make columbia, tennessee, the locations of the sons and confederate veteran's headquarters, the forrest final veteran burial site, lead zoom the burial remains once against. they were tucked inside period clothing and the family plan to stop at the site of one of forrest's civil war battle sites in the way to columbia. but the forrest family attorney got a call. >> there is now a security threat, that the fbi wanted to make us aware of. they ask that we not take that route and we not do that sermon. >> taylor says they moved the remains under the cover of darkness, september 16th, for a series of visitations, possessions. the funeral and third burial of the couple. ceremonies attended by approximately 4000 people and the fbi. with facial recognition software into. >> they're still looking for insurrectionists who stormed the capitol on january six and felt for whatever reason that the funeral of nathan bedford
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forrest might be a good place to find people who perhaps were in the capital on january six. >> voters from the ceremony show some of the 500 civil war reactors, on horse with backwards boots and more. >> this picture here was taken from the balcony. this is actually general forrest's remains going into the mansion for the visitation. they had ladies, morning ladies, that were dressed in all black. they carried his portrait from the mansion up to the grave site. >> more than 4000 people. 4000 americans showed up for that. that was just a couple of months ago in tennessee at the headquarters of the sense of the confederate veterans in columbia, tennessee. a few missed what the funeral director said there, he said the fbi was there. the fbi is not confirm this. but according to the guy who ran this world ceremony, the fbi was there with facial recognition software, looking for insurrectionists who
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stormed the capitol on january the six. the fbi felt for whatever reason the funeral of might nathan bedford forrest be a good place to find people who perhaps were in the capital on january six. yeah. the funeral, the re-burial of a confederate general and the klan founder might possibly have been an attraction to the americans from our generation who did their part to try to over four through the u.s. government by force. tonight, there's news on the investigation of the january 6th attack. former president trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, has announced he will no longer cooperate with the investigation. he's putting himself there by on a course of potentially being formerly prosecuted for contempt. if he continues to refuse to testify continues to refuse to hand over documents about what happened in the lead up to january six. one justice department trump administration official, one legal adviser to trump.
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they're already pleading the fifth and the investigation -- no signs yet that mark meadows might plead the fifth. but we got word tonight that another longtime adviser to former president trump, roger stone, he's reportedly saying that he too will feed plead the fifth. we'll have more on that coming up. these stones, symbols a violent insurrection against the u.s. government, they're having their moment right now as well, which may not be equally since. just yesterday, enrichment, were junior, they started dismantling the pedestal that had once held a giant statue of the head of the confederate army, robert e. lee. that statue itself came out in september of this year. democratic virginia governor ralph northam announced this weekend that the pedestal on which the lease statue stood, that pedestal also start to come down in richmond. they apparently started dismantling yesterday. they see it will be gone by the end of the year. in july of this year, you might
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remember, they also brought down the robert e. lee statue that stood in charlottesville, virginia. it was all the way back in 2016 that high school students from charlottesville petition to have that robert e. lee taken down. the city council voted the following year, 2017, that it should be taken down. but while the whole question of what was going to happen to that statuesque up in legal wrangling in 2017, new nazi white supremacists and neo-confederate groups seized on the very threat that the robert e. lee statue might come down as their pretext for holding their unite the right rally in charlottesville. the statue of the center of that didn't actually come down until july of this year. since then, just a couple of weeks ago, the client and neo-nazi and neo-confederate groups that organize that deadly charlottesville riots, the protests that statue in -- having to take it down. those groups were found liable to pay more than $25 million
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dollars in -- to people who were hurt by the whites prime misses wires in charlottesville. but look at what's happening in charlottesville right now. late last night, in a meeting that actually stretched into the early hours of this morning, the charlottesville virginia's elite city council took a vote on what to actually do with the statute. that robert e. lee statue that they finally took down this summer in july, it's 1100 pounds of bronze. they did finally take it down from that square in town. five years after local high school students asked them to please take it down, and four years after the city council said they would. four years after neo-nazis, new confederates converge on their city to protest that decision. they finally took it down but what do you do with it? apparently at least, a half dozen different groups approach the city of charlottesville think they wanted the robert e. lee statue. they had something or other that they wanted to do with it. well last night, early this morning, in a unanimous vote, the charlottesville city
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council decided what to do with it. they decided that 1100 pound robert e. lee statue would be given to a local african american heritage center, that has a very specific plan for it. they're going to melt. it's the going to melt it down. ultimately they say it will become a new public artwork about what charlottesville is like today. it'll be about some new idea in charlottesville. that new idea, what exactly they're gonna put it down to, what they're gonna turn it into, those school to come later. for now, the only plan that everybody has agreed to is melt it. they're calling the project -- change is hard. change is often so hard that it is unimaginable. until one day, you're driving down i-65 and hey, look, it happened. one day you are driving through the center of charlottesville, virginia, and hey, look it happened. it feels impossible.
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telltale signs by which you can discern, even at a distance, that the united states might be under new management compared to the previous four years. first of all, before his one-on-one meeting with russian president vladimir putin today, president biden called a bunch of our major european allies. last night, he called france, germany, italy and the uk. leaders of all five countries got on the phone together so they can all get on the same page about their concerns with putin's military buildup on the border of ukraine. so president biden could talk with them about what the agent was for this meeting before he took the beating. then, as soon as his meeting with putin was over today, he called them all back again to fill them in on what had happened. to make sure that the u.s. is on solid footing with our allies. as russia once again threatens to invade a country in europe. also, this is a similar process. perhaps a hopeful sign today. after the biden, putin beaten was over, we, the american
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public heard about what happened on that call from the u.s. government. before we heard about it from the kremlin. and that shouldn't be that big a deal, but for the last four years, that never happened under president trump. if you had any contact with the russian government, even if we had not known about it in advance, the kremlin would always give us the first word about what had happened. we would find out that our president had a meeting with putin, the russians said they had talked about we would always find out about it because of a press release from the kremlin. this time it was our government. it was the u.s. government that was first to describe what happened. maybe that is not the biggest thing in the world, but it is a change. these are among the signs that things are being handled differently. our white house is certainly under new management right now. our president is different. russia's president has the same. and russian president vladimir putin does appear once again to be relishing this moment on the
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world stage when he has once again got everybody afraid of him. wondering what it is that he's going to do. is it possible right now to sauce out whether russia will invade ukraine, and either expand its existing war or start a whole new level of war there. the white house made sounds today after this call that there are things we could do in response, that would be crippling for russia, that would be terrible, things we never count from contemplated doing to them. is it true, is a spin, is it bluster? putin clearly started this, he appears to be testing the u.s. government and the international community to see what he can get away with. he has 175,000 troops massed on the border with ukraine. what is the right way for the u.s. government to be handling this? joining us now is fiona hill. she was the top russia expert on the national security council under president trump
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from 20 17 to 19, she is also the author of there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century. doctor hill, thank you so much for taking the time to be heard tonight. >> thanks so much, rachel, great to be with you. >> let me ask you, if i'm framing this the right way, it seems to me from a layman's perspective that president putin has the world's attention. he got one on one attention from the president of the united states today, and he has the whole world guessing as to whether or not he will do something else militarily towards ukraine, but he seems to be enjoying and having seeking the attention that you got from it. is it fair to portray that way? >> well, he certainly doesn't want to get attention. but he wants attention for a particular purpose. putin has been signaling for quite some period of time going back over several administrations in fact, that he wants to see some kind of new security arrangement in
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europe. ukraine is part of that. in many respects we are coming up this month 30th an adversary of the dissolution of the soviet union, and of the cold war, 30-year independence of ukraine and countries like ukraine. putin is basically saying look, we didn't solve the end of the cold war. at the end of otherwise we had a settlement in which there was an agreement about how europe would be divided up, and i want that agreement now. he has been signaling a laying it for many years before different presidencies and this is the latest iteration of this. >> how does threatening ukraine militarily occupy parts of ukraine seizing parts of ukraine for russia threatening to do even more of that now, how does that factor into that strategical that he has? >> well it's the critical part of this. putin has signaled many times including quite recently in a speech that he counts ukraine to be an extension of russia.
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he said the ukrainian russian people are one in the same, ukraine belongs with russia. ukraine is in russia's influence. so ukrainians to be part of this disposition of a new european security arrangement, the problem is of course that he demands president biden sit down and wait this out. obviously he is hoping that today was today's teleconference is part of that process. >> in terms of the interest here, if as you say, he considers ukraine to be integrally part of russia. something that even spiritually cannot be separated from russia. that ukraine is his. that ukraine and russia must be one. the united states looks at ukraine as an ally, but doesn't nearly have the same emotional and strategic connection to ukraine that russia does. it is just an imbalance of power. there putin understands that. if you testing how far the united states or allies will go to defend ukraine?
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obviously the united states is not going to war with russia in order to defend ukraine. everyone keep saying that up and down, but short of war, the united states presumably has more options than we have exercised in the past. is this an effort to flush out what those might be, and you sense the biden administration might be willing to do things that haven't been done before to dissuade this type of aggression? >> well look, you are absolutely right rachel. you framed this exactly the right way. this is what putin is doing. he is probing and testing. he is making it very clear that if he decides to keep us testing about whether he has made that kind of decision, that he is poised to do much more damage to ukraine. the kind of forces that we see the right there, all this available information for the public satellite imagery for example, we can see that he might be poised for a major invasion of ukraine. that is exactly the goal. he is trying to push into thinking that he would do this, and again we have to treat it very seriously because he has
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done things like this in the past. yes already annexed crimea, other parts of ukraine. i was trying to see are we ready to -- president biden has done today as you laid it out, with all these repeated phone calls to allies is showing that the united states and its allies, is very serious and resisting it. again, ukraine has been an independent country for 30 years, ukraine has agency here, yeah sovereignty. the united states is not in any kind of position to bargain away on ukraine security. so that a biden administration is certainly affirming things and the way that one would expect and hope and anticipate in response to this. >> fiona hill, former top russia -- expert on the author of there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century. which of every book written by anybody associated with the trump administration in any way, is absolutely the one to read. doctor hill, thank you very
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regardless of omicron, even before omicron gets here in significant numbers, the case count from good old delta variant covid cases is climbing very aggressively right now. particularly in the midwest and northeast as winter sets in. we want to look for a second what's going on in michigan, this is today the pieces for michigan that are bad in any combination, very bad and sequence. last week michigan hit its highest hospitalization ever. hospitalizations in michigan or reach their highest point ever last week. the previous record was that seven months ago. so highest hospitalizations ever last week. then this week, they reached their highest number of active cases ever. think about that sequencing, once you get infections, then you get reported cases, when you get reported cases, then you get people turning up sick, once you get people turning up sick you have hospitalizations,
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and then you have death numbers. michigan is already at its highest hospitalization ever, the week after that they get their highest covid numbers ever. the delta variant, before omicron gets here is already filling up hospital beds pushing the health care system to a brink. the situation in michigan is not good. it's like if your house at the shore was underwater, and you just learned that actually were already underwater but it's only low tide right now. the tide is coming in. this is going to get worse. it's a bad combination of events. but that's where michigan's, and part of the reason we are worrying about michigan right now is the state is already getting a big amount of federal help. federal government has already deployed through emergency teams of health care workers the hospitals in michigan. things are still getting worse. look at the hospitalization graph again. highest it has ever been. at least one michigan doctor thing the three federal teams that have been sent to help already are not enough to deal with a upward curve right now, according to michigan
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pulmonologist -- the numbers are significantly picking up in the community and health care is bearing the brunt of that. we need the next team, the next federal help team, and the next team after that. he went even further and a call from help from his colleagues who have retired. said, quote, we need people who have taken a highly this from health care for their own personal physical emotional health, we need them to consider a return for they can join us on the front lines to try and get us through this challenging time. the glass can only hold so much water, at some point it is going to overfill, and it is over filling in certain hospitals right now across the state. joining us now is doctor posture he is head of pulmonary and critical care minister at walmart hospital in royal oak michigan. he is also vice chair of -- the medical society. doctor ballistic, it is a real pleasure to have the same with you think. >> thank you very much, rachel. appreciate being. here >> i'm worried about those
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two metrics in sequence. to have michigan hitting its highest hospitalization numbers ever and then and mediately thereafter to have its highest reported case numbers ever. that feels on a sustainable almost an immediate level. am i right to say that way or is this some piece of this i'm missing? >> no, you've got a exactly right, rachel. unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the trajectory shows any signs of turning around. we have seen -- back to july one actually, the infection rate which means one person insects more than one other person. here we are now and december with the infection rates as high as we have. that infection rate continues to be higher than one, so we expect the numbers to continue to climb. >> how much of the rising case numbers that you're seeing right now in michigan -- how much of that is among the unvaccinated? and how much of it is among
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vaccinated populations? we know obviously there are breakthrough infections for sure. the good news about breakthrough infections tends to be people don't get as sick. they're less likely to be hospitalized, they're less likely to get seriously ill. they're less likely to die. is there some silver lining here? some reason for hoping that some of these case numbers are breakthrough infections so that people are likely to end up in the hospital? >> that's certainly a possibility, but i will tell you that 80% of michigan's population of hospitalized patients an 80% of those who go on to die from covid are those who are not fully vaccinated. so, absolutely, still much more risk in the unvaccinated population. we like to imagine that some of those cases that reported as infection are not those that are going to come into hospital, because they are vaccinated. because they are breakthrough cases. we do see a small number of those. those are particularly prevalent in those folks who are not boosted. so, if you're done your due diligence in being vaccinated,
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take that extra step and go get that loose. the unfortunate reality is still that 80% of folks who have to come to hospitals are still unvaccinated and we're still looking for ways to reach that population to help them learn and make the right choices to vaccinate. choices to vaccinate >> with michigan hospitals so with health care staffing levels being so critical, you making that personal call today, asking health care professionals who may have stepped away from that profession because they were tired or because they needed to get away. they needed to take care of themselves. asking people to rejoin the front lines, that really got my attention today. that's part of the reason we called you today. with resources stretched that far that you have to make that kind of a plea to your colleagues, i wonder what you think -- what else you can do? what else hospitals can do? but it's the state can do? to try to make the necessary resources available for people who are sick? >> first, let me say,
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appreciate the emergency health care workers coming to michigan. i think that highlights the severity of our situation right now. no question. much appreciated. we have to ask for the community. under questionable else hospitals can do, we can control the things we can control, which is trying to manage beds, trying to manage staffing to the best of our ability. allocate resources that we have to optimize patient care. but beyond that, as i mentioned in the article, what's the glass starts over phil, we really lose control of the situation. so, here's what my request was of that community. number one, is just a personal appeal to those folks that had to step away from health care, particularly in patient health care, we have really been the health care heroes they were in march 2020. they still are today. if you had that skills it, if you have that talent, please consider returning to help your
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local health care facility. number two, to the community, you can play a great role in this by doing that things that we need to do to turn down the infection rate. right? those are things that have been well described. things like vaccinated, boosting earlier, masking and indoor public spaces. please do it. avoid the crowded spaces to give yourself from room away from other folks. right now, with the prevalence this high in the community, there is a high chance that when you go out you're going to encounter someone who is infected in the community. >> dr. paul bozyk, i had a pulmonary and critical care medicine at -- thank you for your time tonight. i know this is a really difficult time with how strange resources are. appreciate you taking the time to help us understand tonight. >> thank you very much, rachel. appreciate. it >> will be right back. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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