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report of the day, if not the week or year, and it's not a turkey. thanks. happy holidays to you! >> reporter: thank you, you, too. >> thank you. and that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." have a great holiday. i'll take a break a couple of days. follow the show online, on facebook and twitter and "mtp daily" is up next. >> holiday travel revs back to pre-pandemic flubs despite new cove is concerns. testing and treatment. a hot-spot doctor and member of the advisory committee brings their expertise. plus, how the white house plans to tackle surging inflationary pressures caused by the pandemic, as american voters are already feeling the burden in their wallets. president biden is set to announce his latest action within the hour. and later, an update from the courtroom as jury deliberations are under way in the trial of the three men
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accused of killing ahmaud arbery. we're live in brunswick, georgia, with the latest, ahead. welcome to "meet the press" daily i'm jarrett hake. holiday travel back to near pre-pandemic numbers. the picture abroad is worsening on a near daily basis. today that remains true. that's before an estimated 53 million americans travel for their holiday gatherings. the nation is averaging nearly 100,000 new cases every day, again, an increase of more than 35% since we hit a low point end of october. cases among children are on the rise, too. increasing 32% in november, even though vaccines are now available to kids over age of 5. in total, 30 states are seeing a
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rise in infections with largest increases centered in the upper midwest and new england, despite the region's high vaccination rates. from michigan to maine, hospital workers spread thin, and beds once again becoming scarce. while deaths and hospitalizations are driven largely by the unvaccinated, breakthrough infections are on the rise, too, particularly among older, high-risk adults. according to a new "wall street journal" analysis. covid's rise among the vaccinated is due to part to waning immurty over time. that's why the cdc cleared booster shots for all adults as of last week. now as millions of americans travel for thanksgiving, the white house covid response team is doubling down. >> so clearly not only do boosters work, they work even better than the peak dose, the peak response after the second dose. so protect yourself, your family and your community by getting boosted if you're already
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vaccinated. >> the message to everyone who is eligible is clear. don't delay. get your booster shot so you can have enhanced protection from covid as he head into the winter. >> the push for boosters comes as the white house wages a legal battle over its federal vaccine or test rule for large employers. we have breaking news on that front turning to in a moment. and in yet another sign the administration knows the pandemic is far from over, the white house invested billions in new covid treatments. viral pills from merck and pfizer showed promising results in reducing hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated. not much known about the treatment yet, the fda advisory committee meets on the myrt myrt -- merck pill in one week. the country made major improvements since last thanksgiving. new cases averaged above 170,000
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every day and hospitals treating nearly double amount of covid patients they are today. with the holidays last year, it helped catapult the u.s. into its largest surge yet. if we aren't careful again this year, experts warn we could be in for another tough winter. joining me with the latest on the administration's battle to get employees vaccinated nbc justice correspondent pete williams. osha previously suspended this vaccine or test rule due to lawsuits before do we stand now? that's the step the administration is taking? >> reporter: still suspended but the administration asking the court emergency order to lift the stay. remember, like three dozen of these lawsuits filed around the country. all consolidated together. the sixth circuit court of appeals based in cincinnati. the government says in a new filing, two things. basically say the court, fifth circuit court of appeals down in your neck of the woods down in new orleans put a stay on it and said that was a mistake.
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that the court then ruled that osha didn't have the authority, because covid isn't just a workplace thing. it's everywhere. >> everything. >> reporter: the government says, that isn't the limit of osha's authority. that osha isn't limited to hazards that crop up at work but can deal with things outside the workplace but that affect the workplace as well. secondly, if you look at the balance, they say, the down side to employers is not as bad as the down side to the country of not doing anything about covid, about not vaccinated or wearing masks. they say, lift the stay, or at the very least if you're not going to lift the stay entirely on enforcing the whole osha rule, at least let the government put the mask requirement into place, the first one that kicks in, in december. the vaccination requirement would come in january. >> this is the next round, but likely to be the last round or ultimately ending up at the supreme court? do you think. >> reporter: when you challenge
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it, go directly to federal appeals court. the sixth circuit put majority of justices, they're conservative. normally go to a three-judge panel. the opponents of the osha rule say, including a number of reds states and companies, saying, ah ah, forget the panel. go right to the full circuit. two questions. what to do about the government stay and whether to have the first hearing before the full sixth circuit. right. whoever loses can go to the supreme court. >> we might see them do. thank you very much. joining me dr. rob davison, emergency room doctor in michigan hospitalizations are so bad health officials urge everyone there to mask up indoors this thanksgiving. also joining you dr. william davis hardy infectious disease doctor and member of the independent panel the fda has to meet next week potentially authorizing merck's covid anti-viral pill. thank you both and dr. davidson, start with you, smack dab in the middle of this, what could be
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start of the next wave in this country. we certainly hope note. talk to me what you're seeing in your hospital in michigan and how concerned about what we may see over the ho holidays? >> incredible. doing this over 20 years. never in my career have i seen the numbers that we're seeing of sick patients, and, again, hospitals are full because of unvaccinated patients with covid-19. these folks get admitted and stay in the hospital an extremely long time. not only are numbers big, not only are hospitals full and the emergency departments boarding patients up to half of our department full of patients waiting to be admitted that beds that don't exist at any given moments, it's sustained. now going on at least three weeks, maybe four weeks. we're told by the folks around here it may not peak until christmas. waiting for the system to break, at least around here, it's broken. we're hanging on for dear life and people pulling extra shifts doing extra work to try to make it work out in the end. it's definitely not working the
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way it's supposed to. >> who's showing up? mostly unvaccinated people? folks with breakthrough infections? give us a sense of who your patients are at this stage? >> i mean, i can tell you anecdotally every person i've seen with low oxygen, needs to be admitted to the hospital are people unvaccinated, and even the few i see who have had the vaccines, who come in and are sick but not sick enough to be admitted. those folks have been more than six months since they had their second shot. they are ready for the booster and i think it's a credit to the idea we're now approving boosters for all folks over 18. got mine in mid-october and glad i did. that's what we're seeing right now, and it's just undeniable that the folks out there pushing to end vaccine mandates or undermine the vaccine efforts, they are responsible for all of this unfortunately. >> i got my booster in early november. felt my work on capitol hill surround by hundreds people
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coming and gawk from all states put knee a high-risk work category. what do you think about the cdc guidance on this? it's been confusing for people. lots of folks who may be eligible but didn't feel like they should necessarily. does the cdc, in your view, as doctor, does the administration need to come out and say, if you're six months out, go get a third shot? >> they have said that now. you know, the problem right now is medicine is messy. long as i've been doing this the way we treat strokes, treat heart attacks, many diseases have changed. people don't see that happening. it happens behind the scenes. unfortunately under the bright spotlight of daily news and facebook and fox news putting out disinformation, unfortunately, this is all playing out in realtime for the public to consume. so it can become confusing. doing this long enough you're used to medicine changing like this and you adapt to the changes. i believe they're coming out with one voice saying 18 or over more than 6 months get a booster. >> doctor, one more for you and
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transition with this question to dr. hardy. if you're a patient in a michigan hospital right now how much different is the treatment able to you, the treatment you're able to give to your patients, than if you'd been sick with covid a year ago and how much does that change the course of the pandemic, do you think? >> you know, i think the biggest thing we see is the monoclonal antibodies. currently restricting giving people with significant risk factor, unvaccinated, emergency department, people able toll go home. there's a significant increase they're bounce back because we see a lot of bouncebacks those who don't get thenecessarily qu. see them day three, then again on day seven and they get admitted. hopefully we can get them early and hopefully this new pill will do that.
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the next guest it caulk to that. how many need hospital azed after coming back. >> dr. hardy, your fda committee will review the merck covid-19 pill next week vote whether or not the fda should give it emergency authorization. broadly speaking, how much impact could that pill, pfizer pill, have on the pandemic across the nation and in places like where dr. davidson is in michigan where they need help? >> sure, sure. i think most important thing to say about that meeting with the fda is it's going to happen. unfortunately did not happen with rendesivir. and molnupiravir and hopefully will dot same for the pfizer drug coming down the pipe. i can't say anything
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specifically about feelings for molnupiravir at this point but the public information available shows 50% effective, and in preventing persons that have mild to early covid infections who are not hospitalized to be able to not get worse, not to go in the hospital and not to die. so that's great, but a 50% decrease certainly is not what we need in this kind of situation. because once someone gets beyond that point, into the hospital, and in a situation where they need greater medical support, they will then actually have many more problems in terms of being able to provide. so it's a good, a good start and a good step in the right direction, but we need something better than that. that's very, very clear. >> doc, my understanding both of these pills are sdirn designed to be prescribed basically right after someone tests positive? we know have thcovid and get into the process very early on.
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how difficult does the timing window make it to use these pills effectively and what does it say about the importance of testing and how the testing protocol needs to be ramped up in this country. if you don't know you've got covid, you can't take advantage of something like this. >> it's very true. i think that is a problem in that in order for somebody to get the medication they may have to have a positive test of some sort and many of those are available, many can be taken at home. so getting the test may not be so difficult as it used to be. many months ago. but, again, the knowledge to be able to come and get the pill soon as the test is positive may not be very clear. we've had a practice of this with influenza for many, many years. in which a medication is available in order to be given to persons who within the first 48 hours of their influenza symptoms, does not require a positive test, but actually does decrease chances someone's going to get sicker with influenza.
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this kind of pill is already on the market for a different infectious disease, a different respiratory virus. i'm not quite sure how well people are going to -- take this up. you know, the problem is, really gets back to what dr. davidson said. we have never controlled viral infections well with medications. the way we have always fought viral infection, except for one. hepatitis c, with vaccinations. vaccination, vaccination, vaccination is the way to go. it's nice to have these pills when someone's already gotten infected, but they're not the best way to be able to control a pandemic at all. so i have positive feelings about having these medications available as another tool in the armory, but i would really like to see the emphasis put on vaccinations a heck of a lot more. i think it's going to be great to have both the merck and pfizer available. they have shown some benefit.
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one better than the other. at least from what we can tell from press releases, but this is really only used, going to be used when a vaccination has either not been taken, in most situations, or someone has breakthrough. that's not going to be the best way to go. >> so the takeaway remains whats has been so many months. get your first shot. get your second shot. get your third shot, if it's time. we know how to end this folks. get your shot. dr. davidson and dr. hardy thank you both for coming on. good luck over the next week especially dr. davidson in michigan with the work ahead of you. up next, new efforts by the white house to get the economy back on track and surging inflation. later, an update from waukesha, wisconsin.
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welcome back. with americans piling into cars to see family for the holidays president biden made a move today to tackle rising gas prices. the white house announced 50 million barrels of oil from the strategic pa petroleum reserve available at lower price to smooth a mismatch in supply and demand. the decision was made in concert with other countries including india, japan and south korea in response to oil rich nations rejecting calls to increase production as the global economy recovers from the covid pandemic. president biden is scheduled to give remarks on the economy this afternoon from the white house as the rise in gas prices and inflation across the board have weighed down his efforts to sell this two-track domestic agenda to congress and the american people. while the white house would rather talk about remedies for america's long-term economic health they're grappling with short-term economic pinches too. joining me from the white house my nbc news colleague mike memoli. mike, what went into this decision on the strategic
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petroleum reserve and how much is about looking like you're trying to control gas prices versus able to provide real relief on the short hand? >> reporter: exactly the right question. certainly a short-term political aspect but a broader geopolitical aspect of the white house decision here. short term is they're going back to sort of the playbook they employed in the early days of this administration, borrowing the fda mantra action and action now 378 want to be caught trying to do anything so that this public perception of this white house as maybe not doing enough to tackle inflation, economic concerns americans are dealing with are sort of put to rest, and interesting in the white house's press release this morning when they announced this move, they actually claimed that the, simply the discussion that had leaked early that they were considering this option working in concert with some of our allies and other major energy consumers in the world is responsible for a 10% drop in gas prices we've already seen.
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saying this already worked even before the actual impact of what they're doing takes effect. but i don't want the larger geopolitical aspect of this to get lost. that's something white house officials are focused on. you've seen a very real concern and publicly raising this concern about the fact that there seems to be some consolidation in energy consumption -- production, excuse me -- that hasn't matched the actual price drop, hasn't matched what consumer are seeing at the pump. you saw the white house, the president sign a letter, asking looking into potential price gouging, anti-competitive behavior they put it on the part of gas producers. also opec is a big part of this. the white house by acting with china, india, japan, korea, some of the other major energy consumers, they're also sort of sending a shout across the bow at opec, the president urge tods do more but reluctant to do so. >> china cooperation is a part of the story we should continue
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to pay attention to especially. mike memoli, thank you. turning to congress. joining me illinois democratic congressman brad schneider. what do you think about the move by the white house on this strategic petroleum reserve? a worthwhile step on its own but needs to be step one of a bigger policy change? >> garrett, thanks for having me. immediate action, but we need to look to the future. the build back better act by making health care more affordable, capping cost of prescription drugs and lowering cost the child care is accepted long termg. we need to do both. we need to look to today and also to the future. >> america's most second powerful joe, joe manchin, but out a statement a little while ale calling this an important policy band-aid. would you like to see the
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administration take a more robust strategy on domestic energy production? you know, to prevent this kind of thing popping up in the future? having to deal with opec and having to work in concert with, you know, international allies as opposed to saying we can try to fix this more directly on our own? >> again, it's the short term, long term conundrum. we can physical thick today, a step the president is taken and other things the administration can do. long term increasing production of electric vehicles, building out charges stations, increasing innovation potential for american companies to bring new vehicles to market, all of that is going to lower the risk that we're going to have oil surges in the future. because our guard won't be dependent on oil for powering their engines. >> fellow midwestern democrat elissa slotkin quoted in "times" saying thanksgiving week will be
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more expensive by a long shot than last thanksgiving. kitchen table issues affect the midwest more than any other issue going on in washington. a fellow midwestern democrat. i heard you linking electric car provisions in the two-track plan in this crisis. are you confident the work you're doing in washington, passing bills, directly regarding concerns of people in your district in illinois? >> confident we need to let our voters, our constituents know, that we understand the challenges everyone is facing today. challenges of rising prices and making sure people can safely get back to work. that our communities can remain safe and secure. at the same time, the people understand that we're also looking to make the future better. and i think with legislation passed, the american rescue plan passed in march having a hume impact. meaning families could gather
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for thanksgiving which we couldn't do last year. the infrastructure will improve. our highways, airports and seaports, addressing stormwarmer management. so communities don't face flooding every time it rains. lots of things we're doing. again, it's a matter of taking action today and addressing immediate needs. also always looking to the future. >> trying to ask every member i talk to about this. es special willy since you passed the bbb on friday, returning to your district, what are you hearing from your constituents about that bill and what specific provisions are you selling to your constituents? so long talking reconciliation bills 3.5 trillion price tag. bbb, acronym process what are you selling to your constituents in that bill? >> talking for months in my district and never talked about prospects or the price. i talked what are the policy? largest investment in addressing climate change in our nation's history.
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largest investment in affordable housing, investment making health care more affordable. caps seniors drug expenses to $2,000. families paying $1,000 a month today on insulin, they're going to pay no more than $35 a month. things that have immediate impact and will change people's lives to the positive. hearing that, talking about is what we're doing and how we're doing it in constructive ways or responsible ways. we made sure this bill is paid for. also what i'm hearing, see congress working on their behalf addressing everyday issues facing today. kitchen table issues alissa is talking about. also making sure that our kids' futcher is secure and sacrifices our parents made for us are worthwhile and deliver a good future for our children as well. >> do congressional democrats make a mistake along the way somewhere to allow the process to become so much about what was it, what this bill was rather than what was in the bill? i recognize i opened myself up to a significant media critique
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but that's part of this too. seems like democrats lost the thread on this bill a little while and now trying to get it back? >> so, look, i'm involved with the new democrat coalition. these are the pro-growth modern democrats who always talked about what this bill does and focused on delivers results for the american people. i think that's where we ultimately got to. it's an unfortunate reality as we're trying to talk about big things, you maybe statements, assumptions and easy to get on the size of the bill or the main reconciliation, whatever want to call it. fact are the matter because of republicans not able to join us and bringing children out of poverty bringing education to more young people have to to do this with 50 votes in the house. that dictates the process. what really matters new dems talk about and i talk about at home and end of the day what i think people will talk about and what they care about.
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>> 50 in the senate. knew what you meant. ask you another question quickly about redistricting. according to the "washington post" in 15 states finalized their math number of competitive seats across the states goes from 23 to 10. in illinois looks like adam kinzinger now announced not running for re-election anyway, it would be squeezed out of his district, had he run. does this process we're seeing now, do you thinks going to lead to more less polarized congress whoever's in control next year? >> we've seen gerrymandering lead to increased polarizations in past years. we're at at peak. difficult to get people to talk to each other whether in the house or back home. i know something i'm committed to reaching across the aisle working together and proud to be part of the bipartisan caucus, 29 democrats, 29 republicans. i say at home i run as a democrat but i represent everyone in my district, republicans, democrats and all of those in between. i think we need more of that.
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i won my first race by 1%. lost to the same by-of-guy by 2% two years later and won back by 5%. the debate in those elections talking about issues that matter to the folks in the district, i think really make a difference. i think it's good to have -- love to see more independent districts across the country. can't be unilateral disarmament of any one side. but i think people are better served. i know the folks of my district, i mentioned it was win by won, lose by two, win by five. last election won by 28-31. not because the district changed. because people got to know me and know i'm fighting for what they care about. >> all right. congressman schneider, thank you for coming on. happy thanksgiving to you and your family. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving to you and everybody watching. >> turn in to the rachel maddow show tonight with hillary clinton. and three men accused of killing ahmaud arbery now rests in the hands of a jury.
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welcome back top purning now to brunswick, georgia, jury deliberation begun in the case of three men charged with killing of ahmaud arbery. the jury has to decide if those three men, gregory and travis mcmichael and william bryan acted in self-defense killing arbery on february 23, 2020 after chasing him down with their trucks. during what the defense says was
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an attempted citizen's arrest. the defense and prosecution presented closing arguments yesterday and state wrapped up their closing rebuttal this morning. nbc's cal perry has been following the trial from brunswick, georgia. cal, jury's got the case after this last day of closing arguments. what do we have who have the been following trial closely as you need to know as they deliberate? >> reporter: we heard linda don dunikoski give her rebuttal. murder charges false imprisonment and aggravated assault. nine indictments on each of the three defendants. went through methodically each of their stories as the defense attorneys had laid them out the day before. she tried to poke holes in them asking the jury not only what were other alternatives but put themselves in that time and place. take a listen to a little of what she said. >> so don't leave the house. here's an alternative.
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call the police. don't chase down strangers to confront them. don't go after pedestrians in your truck. i mean, common sense tells you, you pull up on a truck on somebody who's a pedestrian out for a job. i don't know. are any of you runners? ever had a strange truck pull up and have people yell at you? would that startle you? we don't know what was in the mind of ahmaud arbery. what do you think? did it cause for a for him? strange men puppulling up in th truck, not relenting or backing often? >> reporter: the defense in large part is relying on a citizen's arrest law. we heard from the prosecution she wanted the jury to take away jury instructions, key being "if the offense is committed in his presence." a felony committed in presence of the citizen they can carry out a citizen's arrest.
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clearly making the point that did not happen in this case and hoping the jury finds guilty on all nine counts for those three defendants. >> cal, thank you. up next, on the ground in wankesha, wisconsin. you're watching "meet the pres daily." " ♪ ♪ traveling has always been our passion, even with his parkinson's. but then he started seeing things that weren't there and believing things that weren't true. that worried us.
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welcome back. the man accused of driving an suv into a crowd at a wisconsin parade makes higs first koert appearance a few hours from now. darrell brooks will likely face five counts of intention's homicide. the 39-year-old drove an suv into a crowd at the waukesha christmas parade, killing five and injuring 48 hoare es. and much of the focus on the parade itself in minutes before the tragedy, nbc news obtained this video from a doorbell camera of a home about a half mile away showing brooks pleading for help and telling someone inside he was waiting fon an uber. a time stamp from the video shows recorded at 5:00 p.m.
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20 minutes after the incident at the parade. the resident said he had idea what happened earlier. gave him a jacket, made him a sandwich. later asked him to leave because of his suspicious and nervous behavior. people in wisconsin, man nbc's meagan fitzgerald join meese from waukesha. what's the next step in regards to this suspect? >> reporter: well, you know, what we know about the suspect, he has a lengthy criminal history dating back decades including drug charges. then just earlier this month, arrested for battery charges, domestic abuse. according to court documents, he ran over the mother of his child, leaving a tire mark on her leg. and was able to then post $1,000 bail and get out. prosecutors here said that was inappropriately low. then, of course, you fast-forward to what we saw sunday. this horrific scene playing out with this suspect allegedly drove his vehicle into this
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christmas parade, killing five people. wounding nearly 50 others including 18 children. we know that those children have been taken to children's hospital here in milwaukee. ten of them in the icu. six of them having to undergo operations in the o.r. immediately when they got there or sunday and then yesterday two other children taken to the operating room. six children in totalin critical condition and these children fighting for their lives. a lot of questions how this suspect was able to be released from jail on such a small bond, given his actions and, of course, his lengthy criminal history, and as you mention, later on this afternoon, we are expecting him to be officially charged with those five counts of intentional homicide. garrett? >> and do we know anything more about the motive here? what exactly was going on, xwla was going through his head when all this was happening? >> reporter: you know, that's
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the big question. that's what we all want to know. why? why would he allegedly drive into this crowd of people and speaking with witnesses there, they have said that it looked as though think was an untensional act. many witnesses on the scene say it appeared as though he knew what he was doing. moments where he could have stopped, and didn't, and as you said, that is the big question here. why did he do it? and so as we see these proceedings, in the weeks ahead, hopefully this community will get the answers that they are certainly waiting for. >> all right, thank you. coming up, what's next for the january 6th probe as the committee investigating the insurrection issue as new batch of subpoenas. jur you're watching "meet the press daily". eet the press daily". gs w rugs up to 80% off and lighting up to 65% off.
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welcome back. three months after the taliban regained control of afghanistan, a new u.n. report is warning that afghan civilians are facing a dire situation as the country stands on the brink of famine and economic collapse. the u.n. is warning that without
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significant intervention, a collapse is likely, and that that could lead to a colossal, social negative impact. nearly 23 million people, more than half of the total population in afghanistan, are facing acute food insecurity this winter and are at risk for famine, including over 3 million children under five years old chltd joining me now is amanda katazano, head of the international rescue committee. i'm also joined by dr. hebadilis. amanda, to you, just how dire are the threats of the economic crisis, the political and social crisis going on there impacting afghan civilians? >> thanks so much for having me. international rescue committee
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is present in afghanistan. we have about 1700 staff, mostly afghans, and we're seeing this unraveling play out in realtime. as you mentioned some of those chilling statistics, we're seeing it on an individual level. almost everyone who is showing up at our clinics are mothers with children who are severely malnourished to give some color to the numbers you were talking about. 75% of those people in need are women and children, and our staff is really concerned about how we are going to treat those who are presenting severe, acute malnutrition and has long-term impact on the ability of children to grow and to thrive and to learn. >> is there a functioning economic system in afghanistan at all right now? >> almost complete economic collapse. and it's happening along two dimensions. the military withdrawal was really just part of the story back in august when we saw those pictures and videos of afghans
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desperate to flee. but it didn't capture the story of the 30 million who remain in afghanistan. it includes a freezing of assets which has left the afghan state unable to pay salaries, it's allowed the banking system to somewhat collapse because there is not enough security and information. there is strict rules on how much money afghans can withdraw. there is just no cash in the pockets of ordinary afghans to buy food for their families, and at the same time prices of staple goods like flour and cooking oil that afghans rely on is skyrocketing, up some 35% in the last few weeks, and the currency is devaluing at the same time, which means the little arc assess to cash they have, the little money they have in their pocket, is being stretched further and further. the second dimension -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> no, please, please, continue. we have a little bit of a delay
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here. >> and also the services being sent to the country is how we were able to help the afghan people, so we're watching a collapse of the sanitation and education system because salaries cannot be paid and because you're watching humanitarian organizations like the isd come in and provide some relief. but we can't replace a functioning economy and we can't replace a functioning service sector. >> so that's the economic crisis part of it, the political crisis in afghanistan obviously well documented. dr. bedahlia, can you, as someone who deals with these issues in a developing world, talk about how those factors compound and create the health crisis that we're seeing here? it starts with food insecurity, famine on the other side of that. walk us through what's happened there. >> i've had experience with outbreaks in the middle of this humanitarian crisis as another layer of complexity as well.
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what the other speaker was saying was this pullout of aid for many of the social services is truly a collapse of the health care system, that two-thirds of the hospitals are health care clinics, for example, part of this world bank project that once the taliban took over, the aid stopped. what you're seeing is health care workers are not getting paid their salaries. 25% of the hospitals are dealing with covid-19 cases have been shut down. complex because there are three layers to it. first, the amount of nutrition and starvation, those in remote areas are not able to seek care. others are not able to access it are there is even that help available. two, if you're seeing the entire collapse of this health care system, there is a risk for all the other medical conditions and infections. w.h.o. recently had a report that 22 million kids around the world have not gotten their childhood immunizations. two-thirds of that is in ten
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countries. the thought is the longer this destruction goes on with health care provisions, you'll see outbreaks of other diseases. it's what we saw in the aftermath of the ebola outbreaks. as if that wasn't enough, only 9% of families have gotten one dose of the vaccine. testing is not available widely. even if it was, most people wouldn't be able to access it in some of the areas that are hard hit as well. >> we talk about all the problems at the top of the show that the united states is having dealing with the pandemic right now. if you're in a country with a collapsed economy, that is a crisis in itself. amanda, what are the possibilities for other governments to even help?
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if you don't have a pipeline into that country, what does the foreign aid picture look like? >> there's two things we need to keep in mind. i think the first urgent action we need to avert in a preventable and predictable humanitarian crisis is more consistent humanitarian assistance. this is the first line of ordinary defense the afghans have to keep them fed and warm as winter approaches. it's a tragedy right now that the u.n. appealed to funding a response and still faces a short fall of $2 million. that needs to be funded and it needs to be funded quickly. it's important for everyone to remember this is funding that goes directly into programs that support afghan people directly, so this is funding that goes to the u.n. and to organizations like the irc that are already in these communities in afghanistan and can scale up quickly and deliver cash assistance and blankets and supplies to protect against the onset of winter, and also to get health care moving
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again in stopgap ways while the rest of these issues are sorted out. but i think we have to keep in mind that averting an economic collapse requires an economic response. a humanitarian response is just not enough. we can't replace health sector services entirely, we can't replace a suffering economy. a complete plan to relieve the suffering needs to be economic as well as humanitarian. people need food banks where they can buy food for their families. if they can't do that, they can't get rid of malnutrition in the country. this isn't about the government in kabul, this is about saving the people in the country from further disaster. it's ordinary afghans who are bearing the brunt of this isolation economically, it's not the government. there are programs in place to pay people like doctors, midwives and teachers that can be done without going through the government. these programs need to be
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massively scaled up in order to encourage more civil servants to go to work and allow more services to be delivered. there are other mechanisms that need to be evaluated and u.n.s and other sanctions need to have carveouts so humanitarians and the goods we require to do our jobs can get into the country easily. the lives of millions of afghans depend on it. >> thank you both. we will stay on that story. thank you all for being with us this hour. as we await president biden's remarks set to begin any moment now, we go to katy tur right now. >> good evening. i am katy tur. we are awaiting president biden to speak about rising prices and his plan to get oil from strategic reserves.


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