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tuesday. with our thanks for being here with us as always. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. on washington in the news, sometimes, we like to do a thing where we look at sort of beyond the beltway. look at the front pages of local newspapers around the country to see how the national news is playing around the actual nation. and not just in the capital. that is something that we tried to do frequently on the show. we have it on covid, a number of times. we have it on big political developments. like issues on impeachment, for example. i find it sort of a helpful reset. a slice of the news world that gets you out of the beltway
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mindset for a day. well, today, house speaker nancy pelosi stuff, they seem to have had a similar kind of idea. pelosi staffers today sent out snapshots of front pages around the country. front pages from local newspapers around the country. in terms of how they're covering the trillion dollar infrastructure bill that passed through congress and that president biden is about to sign. the headlines about that bill are great. particularly about the local impact that it's expected to have in states in communities around the country. also, the reason i'm guessing the speaker's office started circulating french page snapshots today is because as good as the news is about the infrastructure bill for all the states around the country, it is bad news for members of congress from those states who voted against it. i will show you what i mean. here is the rapid city journal in south dakota today.
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front page headline, state gets 2.8 billion dollars from infrastructure bill. that is a huge amount of money coming to south dakota, for roads, for bridges, and for rule areas. this is a huge deal in south dakota. also, repairs airports, new school buses, drinking water systems, making the electric grid better. 2.8 billion dollars coming to south dakota alone. and what is the sub headline after that headline? johnson, thune, rounds opposed the measure. south dakota has two u.s. senator like every state does. that is republican food and rounds. both of them voted no against the infrastructure bill. south dakota has so few people in it that it only has one member of the house. that is a man in dusty johnson. johnson also voted no on the
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infrastructure bill. so there is the front page of both of the headlines in one of the biggest papers in the state highlighting how a multibillion optimistic event this is going to be for south dakota. and how are -- voted against it. that is south dakota today. grand folks harold. this time the news about the republicans that voted no on the infrastructure bill is right there in the main headline. armstrong, votes against one trillion dollar package. armstrong in this case is kelly armstrong, who is north dakota as one solitary member of the house. currently armstrong voted no on the infrastructure bill, so there is one of the biggest pepper in the states gushing on the front page about all the bill is going to do about how he was no help, he voted no. there is the description on the front page, the bill sets aside significant funding from everything to roads, bridges, internet access, many have been keenly interested in what it could mean for local airports,
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highways, interchanges, and underpasses. it is going to do a lot for all of those things. headline for north dakota, about all of those things, we have a republican congressman here and he voted against us. i should also mention that they have two republican senators, and they voted no to. from the dakotas the daily advertisement, you have the same story into louisiana papers, advertising at the top of page ones against all the columns. receiving over seven billion dollars from the infrastructure bill. that is up in louisiana. front page at the times. here puts this headline on. it state to get seven billion dollars so far from biden bill, infrastructure passage, a major victory for louisiana. but then again, they are on the front page, there is a warmth warm for the people voted against it. for louisiana's little democrat in the, house congressman troy
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carter of the new orleans, was the only member to vote against the bill. this is a transform mission a moment for the people of louisiana, and the entire country. in louisiana we've learned the hard way what it means to fill the roads, bridges and -- in this package through louisiana will get billions of the federal government to repair and update the roads, bridges, sort, water systems, update our flow protection, harden our par, grid increase internet connectivity and so much more. that is celebratory state from troy carter, the democratic congressman from louisiana who voted for it. and then here is the next line in the article. still on the front page. all five louisiana house republicans, garrett graves of the baton rouge, clay hidden, poured bare, mike johnson of benton, julie letlow of state, and steve scalise all voted against the bill. to get the celebratory state about all of this is going to do in attributed to the democrats, voted yes. big headlines, seven billion dollars to louisiana, here is
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all the republicans who voted no. and down to miami, front page of the miami herald today, billions of dollars coming to florida when biden's infrastructure bill's law. and on the front page of miami, it quotes, south florida for democrats in congress, u.s. representative, -- well voted for the bill, republicans included. including mario diaz, carlos, and sell this are all voted against it. democrats all voted for. it republicans all voted against it. billions, coming to florida to fix our infrastructure. here is the local officials who all voted against it. they are all republicans. put that on the front page. you can see why speaker pelosi staff is sending around local paper snapshots of how this is playing, right? i think this is probably also meant to be a little bit of insurance against the unavoidable next step here, right? which is that republicans who voted against the infrastructure bill will nevertheless, show up at the
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ribbon cuttings and they will sent out press releases about all the new stuff that is coming to the district. that is coming to their state. that is getting funded by the infrastructure bill. they will send out press releases in celebratory tweets about it as if they had said they would do with it when the in fact voted, no. so we know that is coming. i think this is meant to be a little bit in insurance against. that if you voted no against the infrastructure bill, you will be famous for that no vote. and the democrats are not going to let you forget it. and it sounds like your hometown papers aren't either that said, there were a handful of republican members of the house who did vote for the infrastructure bill, there were 13 of them to be exact. these are them. the punchbowl news surface now reports that as punishment for that -- punishment against them for voting for infrastructure funding, quote, republican leadership is racing for rank and file lawmakers to attempt to strip committee assignments
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from the 13 republican lawmakers who voted for the trillion dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill. several of these lawmakers are also ranking members -- top republicans on the committees -- those positions could be at risk to what. so the situation the republican party has created a sort of difficult dynamic for its members in congress. if you are a republican who voted no on the infrastructure bill, you voted no on this incredible popular legislation that is going to have a big impact on literally nuts and bolts issues in every state in the country. the republicans who voted no on it are getting named and shamed on the front pages of local newspaper all across the country because they didn't vote to help their home state. because their home states are set to be getting this funding for all the stuff that everybody wants. but the republican members of congress said no we don't want it. but the handful of republicans who voted yes, they are facing the wrath of their own party in
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washington. they are facing being stripped from their committee assignments, effectively, exiled from the party. as if they did something terrible. as if they threatened to kill someone, or something. no wait, actually, there is a sitting republican member of congress who just threatened to kill someone. arizona republican congressman paul gosar did, just in the past few days, posted an online video, an online cartoon video of himself showing him as a cartoon character killing congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. posted like a murder fantasy about killing one of his colleagues in the house. house speaker nancy pelosi has called on the ethics committee even outside law enforcement to look into this matter. to take action, in response to congressman gosar to posting this threat that he's going to kill his colleague. which she has suggested that perhaps the republican party in congress, in the house, might
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take action to do something in response to that. what did they say the options are? remove him from his committees? so far no sign that congressman paul gosar it is going to face that kind of punishment or anything like it for what he did. again, threatening to kill a femme -- fellow member of congress. but if you are a republican who committed the brave crime of voting for a bill to what fund road repairs and internet access to small towns, well that grave crime is enough to potentially end your career in the republican party. that is the kind of soon you might actually pay for. today the investigation into the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol produced another ten subpoenas. demanding records and documents and ultimately testimony from ten different people close to, who worked close with president trump around the time of the
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attack and leading up to it. the list includes trump's former white house press secretary kayleigh was, also his body man -- it is a weird turn but is the man who is supposed to carry the presidents paper, and to physically moving around. pointing towards the right door. that body man was a guy name johnny mac in teen. he was hired as trump's body man and ultimately, when everyone else started quitting, he put him in charge of white house personnel. he was also subpoenaed today. an abc news reporter jonathan carl's new book which was sex or today in the atlantic -- playing the role of essentially being the deputy president of the united states. being deputy president to trump and in fact running the white house in the final week of the trump administration. again, he was hired to carry the papers and open the doors. jonathan carl's book also
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described mr. johnny mcentee playing a direct role a previously unknown but reportedly direct role in pressuring vice president mike pence that he needed to subvert the count of the electoral votes and thereby throughout the election results on january six. mr. mac into, -- directly that was unknown before mr. karl spoke. it is unknown whether the january six committee wants to talk to mr. johnny mcentee specifically but he did get subpoenaed today. vice president pence national security advisor general, also issued a subpoena. as well as stephen miller, he will be remembered in history for being the architect of the policy that arranged for the u.s. government to take thousands of little kids away from their mom and dad indefinitely. he has been subpoenaed now to testify about his efforts to spread false information about the election results and to persuade states to overthrow those results and proclaimed trump the win or even in states
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that trump lost. a number of other people who are accused of participating in that pressure campaign targeting republicans controlled state legislators in states that trump lost, telling state legislators that they should send electoral slates to washington as if trump won even though he lost. a number of people participated in those efforts, also the white house deputy chief of staff, also trump's personal assistance, also another guy who served as trump's body man when the first guy got promoted to run the government while trump was tweaking as of january six. they all got subpoenas today. each passing day of course is more proverbial-y present of whether the justice department is actually going to see to it that the subpoenas are enforced. the justice department is still currently mulling whether they are going to bring a prosecution, a contempt prosecution against any trump aides who defy these subpoenas. there was a criminal referral made to the u.s. justice department over trump advisor steve bannon defying his
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subpoena from the january six investigation. justice department has received that reflect, but they still not acted on it, one way or another. and so we do not know. whether or not this investigation will effectively be allowed to proceed. as more trump folks get subpoenaed, we had six yesterday and we have time today as they all upon receiving decide whether or not they're going to comply with them. that justice department decision whether they are not, steve bannon will be prosecuted for contempt for the flying that subpoena. that justice department we well be determinative. in terms of whether this investigation actually really has the power to investigate anything. or is this whole process optional for witnesses who do not feel like dealing with it. the justice department has been prosecuting individual people who went to the capitol. individual rioters, individual people who rooted and broke stuff and hurt people on january six. they arrested hundreds of people, those cases are all working their way through the
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court. the justice department appears to have the nothing in terms of the organizers of the january 6th event. the people who invited the january six rioters to come to washington and because it would be wild, because they were promoting this theory that mike pence could be pressured, could potentially even be physical stopped from counting the electoral votes and that would undo the election results. the justice department appears to be letting that slide entirely. they appeared to be not investigating. that they are just going for the foot soldiers. the people who are investigating the organizers of the attack on the capitol, the organizers of the so-called insurrection our congress. the congressional committee. but if all these trump folks start defying the subpoenas and saying, we consider this investigation to be optional, it will be up to the justice department to decide whether or not that gets prosecuted as contempt. whether or not the subpoenas are in fact going to be -- it is in merrick garland's hand in a lot of ways. so that remains.
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that sort of proceeds with each passing day as it gets even more intense. and the questions around it become even more constitutionally potent. but the dance card in washington just broadly is quite -- here is something i want to show you on a leader not. here is something i want to show you that we've got exclusively. this is going to start airing broadly tomorrow. it is pretty significant ad behind it, you will likely be seeing it circulating tomorrow. i say that with a little bit of surprise because, to be honest, we have to double triple check with the lawyers to see if we were even allowed to play this ad on tv. turns out, we are allowed to play it. and so i am going to show it to you. again, it is coming up tomorrow, we got here exclusively tonight, this is the world premiere. it is not cory, or's wary, or upsetting or anything. but it is a little edgy. i think that's the right word.
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let's see what you think, watch. >> is your democracy blasted? trouble maintaining a strong coalition? tired of the parade of disappointing performances? then you might be one of the 330 million americans suffering from elect tile dysfunction. i get all excited about a new bill >> the bill bag gets a hot unheated. >> we will move thanks to the. floor >> and right when we're about to achieve a joint resolution, them, total government shut down. >> premature capitulation. >> every time i get in the election, i think, maybe this time will be different. >> filibustering just doesn't make me feel good anymore. >> it's embarrassing, okay. >> fortunately there is the freedom to vote act. >> the freedom to vote act? >> what's the freedom to vote act? >> the freedom to vote act and you're tired sad, floppy relationship by making election day a holiday across the
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admit, that's very well done. they represent us is a good government group, they're an anti corruption group, my favorite parts are, the sad whistler. i will never eat whistler again without laughing at it. i don't know if you know this, the subtitles are really funny. must be 18 years or older to vote. ask your doctor if is stable functioning democracy is right for you. peaceful transition of power is necessary for sustain representation. that when they don't even, reader runs across the bottom. side effects may also include, civic satisfaction increase prosperity, ordinance to a stab list, blessings secured, faith renewed and postelection clarity. [laughs] talk to your representative if you're experiencing, greased
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palms, lined pockets -- you may not be healthy enough to pass the freedom to vote. act it's very. good anyway that's going live tomorrow to represent us, to keep the pressure on to pass the freedom to vote act. to protect the freedom to vote. that said, the freedom to vote act is not going to pass. without democratic senator joe manchin for example deciding that it matters enough for him to make it happen. democrats in the senate would have to change the filibuster rules to pass voting reforms and democracy protections like that bill, if they will get it passed. republicans will not help them do. it senator joe manchin has toyed with the idea being willing to do, that but doesn't seem poised to act. you know, in terms of what will happen next in washington, they did just pass this big infrastructure bill. which is huge. check your local paper to see if your local republican member of congress help to her and that. one it's a 1.2 trillion dollar
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infrastructure bill. it's a very big deal. but now that they have done that, they actually have to do an impossible number of things over the next few days. by next week, they need to vote to fund the government. vote to raise the debt ceiling. they need to pass the must pass bill to fund the meal inter. owen they must pass the both the house and senate, the build back better bill. remember, it was pulse be infrastructure in the build back better bill together. the build back better bill is the big one, it's the home for the bulk of president biden's economic agenda. this is the bill that house democrats and progressives were promised, would pass. they were promised it would pass next week, in exchange for their votes on infrastructure this past friday. how is that promise holding up, how likely is this all to come together in the end. joining us now is -- what he's been a key player in these negotiations and's
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congresswoman jayapal it's very nice to see you. >> it's great to see rachel. >> so, what happened with the passage of this bill on friday. we've been talking for weeks if not months. i think weeks at least. about you wanting to pass, you in the progressive caucus, wanting to pass the infrastructure bill, and the build back better bill together. one of them went without the other and exchange for a promise. how strong is that promise? >> well rachel, first of all, five weeks ago, there was no build back better bill. there was no negotiated agreement between the two senators that you mentioned, manchin and sinema, and the white house. and the house. there was no text. there was no vote to move the bill forward before the final vote at the end. as you know, the progressive caucus stood up strong, not once, not just once but twice. to make sure that that we didn't pass the infrastructure bill without the build back
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better bill. and we made a tremendous amount of progress. what happened on friday, is that we were all set to pass both bills. at the last minute there were six democrats who said they needed more fiscal information from the congressional budget office. and that they needed a little bit more time. i'll tell you rachel, our members of the progressive caucus were so strong, they were willing to continue to hold it up. but we had a caucus why discussion, and we decided, that what we needed to do was show momentum, by passing the infrastructure bill, if and only if we got an absolute rock-solid agreement, from the six, that they would vote for this bill, as soon as the congressional budget office got that information to them, but no later than next week. that is the agreement that we finally agreed to. i believe and i'll tell you they made a commitment to me one-on-one, they made a written
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statement, they also made a commitment to the president, that they did not believe any information would change substantially from what had already been provided. and we would pass the bill next week. negotiation is always tough, but there is a moment where you just have to decide, whether it is going to get you close enough to what's the original prize was. what was the original prize? it was to pass the build back better act through the house. and to actually get universal childcare, universal pre-k, biggest investment and housing, a real half trillion dollar investment and taking on climate change. making sure we protect our immigrants, these are all the major things. health care, medicare expansion, lowering the cost of prescription drugs, these are all the things in the build back better act, rachael get it passed next week. that just would not have happened six weeks ago, five weeks, ago if the progressive caucus had not stood up strong, to say, this is what we are going to do. no one left behind. >> those members who said they
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would not vote until they got information from the cost. is there a decision on whether or not to vote for, it depends on what the cost is? if they come back and say the cost is going to be why instead of acts, is that going to be justification for them, to not vote for the bill, and thereby leave you sort of stranded? >> the really good news is we got a lot of fiscal information from the joint committee on taxation. and from the white house. that actually mapped out and said this is how much it cost, this is what the investments are, this is what the revenue will be. and what they said is, we just want a few more tables, actually verifying this information that we got. what are written agreement says, is that, the written statement says this, as long as it turns out to be approximately ballpark with the white house is already given us, that they will be fine. if there is a discrepancy, they
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will work expeditiously with, us to fix that discrepancy. the president committed that if there was a discrepancy, he would work very quickly with us to fix it. and to make sure we raise the revenue, but rachel. everyone i've talked to, i don't think we would've made this deal, if we thought there was going to be a discrepancy. everyone we have talked to has said, the cbo, whatever these tables are that we're going to get, are going to be the same as what the white house is represented the costs and the revenue to be. i feel confidence, and let me say we asked the white house multiple times, are you sure these numbers will match up, and they did say yes we are very certain of that. i think we will be fine. at the end of the day, sometimes, you just need to make sure that you're not getting so stuck in your promise that you don't see that actually this is now a 2.1 trillion dollar bill, and we
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are going to have every single one, but perhaps will lose one, i'm not sure about one of the members, voting for this bill, which means we get a very strong vote from across the democratic caucus, on this bill, to send to the senate. and again, with all of our progressive priorities that we had articulated almost six months ago. >> washington congressman still very much in the thick of this, sort of in suspended animation right now between these two bills, thank you for helping us understand tonight, thank you very much. >> much more ahead tonight. stay with us. h more ahead tonight stay with us ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪
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secretary of state's office on december 1st, four weeks after election last year. the man on the phone was fixated on one of the election conspiracy theories pushed by president trump and his allies. that voting machines called a company dominion, had been rigs to flip millions of votes from trump to biden. and they had stolen the
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election. this caller to the vermont secretary of state back on december 1st, was very angry. about this conspiracy theory, i will actually play you the audio of the voice mail that he left there. it is unpleasant, it's disturbing, it's a little bit scary. that's not the kind of thing you want to hear right now this is your chance to mute. we will, plant the voice mail last about 40 seconds. here it is. >> you -- are done. this might be a good time to put a -- pistol in your -- mouth and pull the trigger if you are any part of this -- fraud. do you understand? do you realize there's a reason we just brought back the firing squad. no more painless lethal injection. from now on, the firing squad or poison gas. both are torture's deaths.
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you if you mother -- are in on this -- let me tell you what. your days are -- numbered. >> that was one of three threatening messages like that, left for vermont election officials in november in december of last. year all left by the same man. we know that because of detail new reporting from reuters, linda show ends jason's up. according to -- they looked into the, matter and determined that the number this guy was calling from, was quote, essentially untraceable. the reporters rate quote, police did not pursue a case on the grounds that the color did not threaten a specific person. or indicate an intimate plan to act. state police never spoke with the caller, raiders did. quote, reporters connected with him in september on the phone number police said called untraceable. in five conversations over four days, spending more than three, hours the man acknowledge
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threatening vermont officials, and described his thinking. in these reuters reporters did not just speak to this one vermont guy who left those threatening messages, they actually tracked down an interviewed a total of nine different people, responsible for making threatening communications targeting elections officials, six of them across 40 front states. all of the nine people they tracked, down happily owned up to having left these threats. as reuters puts, it most were unrepentant. this is a new, piece of remarkable reporting from reuters. but the latest in a series they have done, highlighting the increasing extreme harassment and threats of violence that have been directed at even low level elections officials, since last year's presidential election. back in june, they published a blood curdling report on the barrage of violent threats and physical intimidation directed at elections officials, and volunteer election workers, the headline on that episode in
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this series was, trump inspired death threats are terrorizing election workers. sub headline on that piece did not mince words. election officials and their families are living with threats hanging firing squads, torture in bomb blast. interviews and documents reveal. the campaign of fear, sparked by trump's voter fraud falsehoods, threatens the u.s. electoral system. that was the first in the series. reuters said it is now documented in nearly 100 intimidating messages, to elections officials in 12 different, states including more than 100 that legal experts say, could warrant prosecution, because they could put a reasonable person in fear of bodily harm or death. but, this latest instance of reporting on this issue, includes the fact that law's response to this very widespread and intense campaign of intimidation, has been anemic. and so, the reporters decided
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that they would track down some of these colors themselves, in large part because the police seem to never have bothered, one stay-at-home dad and part-time lyft driver in arizona, became convinced that barack obama and george soros had packed ballot boxes with fake ballot boxes from china, he left expletive filled messages for arizona secretary of state. saying she would hang from a tree. georgia real estate investor saw a presentation from really giuliani an election fired in georgia, he left a voice mail for the full and county elections director, telling him that he quote, better run, because he would be hung. or he would face the firing squad. a 42-year-old night staffer, who works at a youth treatment center in utah, he says his anger boiled over after he watched an election conspiracy event hosted by the my pillow guy. this utah man, the one that
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works at the youth treatment center, he message colorado's top election official and told her quote, i know where you sleep. i see you sleeping. be afraid, be very afraid. i hope you die. that was sent by a real person, whose find, -able traceable, raiders called him, writer spoke with nine of these, folks all but one of them were happy to go by record and by name, admitting to their cause, saying they believe they hadn't done anything wrong. saying the elections officials deserve these threats. and most of the people reuters spoke to, part of the reason they're so cocky about having done this and they're not running from, it is because there's been no consequences from them. most of them have never heard from the police about what they did, even though elections officials alerted law enforcement about their messages, and forward them all the information that reuters was able to use to find these people. as for the vermont, either one's voice meant we just played, the one who reuters contacted on the phone number police that was untraceable. the vermont guy toyed reuters journalist, that thousands of fake ballots were cast in arizona, he referred to the
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dominion conspiracy theory. he said members of the media would soon be executed. perpetrators of election fraud would be sent to military prison. and then he started threatening the reuters journalists. they say that he sent them dozens of texans voicemails over the course of several weeks. less than a month ago he left them a new threatening voice mail, excuse me he left a new threatening voice mail he left with the vermont secretary of state's office. he said some election staffers in the two reuters reporters, workload, about to get effing popped. but he didn't say effing. and you would think, surely there must be some kind of investigation, now after all the earlier calls from this vermont guy, in the police say no this guy's untraceable, reuters found it is very easy to trace, them they were able to trace, and they talk to him. even after they talked him about the threats he started up the threats again, and then started threatening the reporters as well, it's all documented. the reuters reporters know who the guy is. they've been able to find, him
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there's no sense in which's phone was untraceable. apparently vermont state police, again, declined to investigate. and the fbi won't say whether they're looking into it, although the bureau did tell reuters it take such acts seriously. they said they work with other law enforcement agencies to quote, identify and stop any potential threats to public safety. and quote. investigate all federal violations to the fullest. it's a nice general statement of purpose. this reporting from reuters, it's been a series over the last few, months a groundbreaking series one that will be award-winning i am sure, it has now tipped over into the people they have found who waged these campaigns of harassment and intimidation against elections officials. these folks have now turned on the reporters as well. it seems in part because of their belief that they will never have any consequences for what they are doing. one of the reporters, who broke his story will join us live here next.
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first, june. this ground braiding and sort of blood curdling -- trump inspired death threats are terrorizing election workers. but if you months later, lawyers followed up with this. u.s. election workers get little help from law enforcement as terror threats mount. and not today, act three. reuters unmask trump supporters who terrified u.s. election officials. both law enforcement has taken little action as actors of donald trump in stark threats of election officials. they tracked down nine of the harassers, most were unrepentant. it is a remarkable series from reuters, up until including this new piece today. in which these reporters tracked down and spoke to nine people responsible for quite acutely threatening communication delivered to six election officials across four different states. most of the nine people he made
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contact with didn't seem to care that they had been found in particular. most of them, the cops never bothered to speak to. most of them, as reuters says, fairly unrepentant here. proud of what they did. which presumably means that there is nothing to stop them from continuing to do this sort of thing. joining us now is senior editor jason szep, who reported the story today along with this colleague. thank you so much for joining us and congratulations on this reporting. it's really important. >> thank you rachel, thank you for having me. >> my sense from your reporting is that there hasn't been much law enforcement response to these election was fischel, even one election rough issues have documented them and handed them over to law enforcement in a very careful way. you outlined this quite serious case informant, where the vermont state police seem to be completely disinterested. but it seems like that is a pattern that you and your colleagues have been able to discover. >> yes. it surprised us. first, in june, the doj
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launched a task force to gather threats from across the secretary of state's offices, local ones across the country. we can the same thing. we went out together threats from elected officials across the country, particularly in the battleground states. then, we went through them we looked at them with severity, we gathered around 800 of them. and as we looked, we narrowed down a sort of severe threats that legal experts said could be prosecuted in court. then we went out to set up, track down, the people who were making these threats. we want to understand their motivation. try to understand their thinking. you know, when we spoke to them, we were really surprised that none of them had any contact at all with law enforcement. >> in terms of the gentleman informant with whom you spoke, we played a voice mail that he left at the rim on secretary of
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state office, obviously very threatening. you and your colleagues detailed the way that the police explained why they didn't follow that up. it was specifically laid out in your reporting however, the police said that they couldn't find him. that they found that his phone number was untraceable and that they couldn't locate him. that seemed to be a part of their initial explanation as to why they weren't pursuing this matter despite how threatening it was. how alarm the police were, when they receive these threats. did you have to do any magic, jiu-jitsu, should lock homes to find this guy. do you know why the people of the police department believed he was untraceable? >> when we did a records request to the secretary of state's office, they gave us the threats, they gave us the voice mails, and with that, they gave us a phone number. all we did was call that
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number. the individual, when we first contacted him, he basically hung up. he swore at us. then we called him again, again, and again. and it was only the second time that we called him that he really started opening up to us. over the course of a number of days we spoke with him in a sort of -- multiple interviews that went in total over three hours. we really got a sense of -- he didn't reveal his identity however we got a good sense of what was drawing him. at a certain point, as we discuss in the story, he turned on us as well. >> senior editor at reuters, jason szep, think you very much for your time tonight. i hope you and your colleagues will keep reporting on this. i'm sorry that it ended up with
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something is protected by executive privilege is not a former president but the current president. and president biden reviewed the documents in question and said actually, no, these are not privileged documents at all. these can be given into the investigation. just within the past few minutes, this federal judge has issued her ruling on that lawsuit. she has summarily rejected donald trump's attempt to shield these documents from the january six investigation in congress. the judge writes in tonight's ruling, quote, the plaintiffs does not acknowledge the difference owed to the incumbent president judgment. naming president biden, who waived executive privilege on this document. his position that he may override the express will of the executive branch appearance -- that it may exist in perpetuity. the presidents are not kings, and plaintiff's not president. the judge also writes in this ruling tonight that it is well within the public's interest that public gets to review these documents, quote, the
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court holds at the public interest lies and permitting the combined will of the legislative and executive branches to studied the events that led to an accord to on january six. and to consider legislation to prevent such events from occurring again. this ruling says that trump's assertion of privilege is bogus. and that there is a strong and legitimate public interest in these documents given into the investigation, so they shall go. not the documents requested by the investigation include, like white house call logs, and draft documents prepared for trump, handwritten notes from his chief of staff, also included in these documents requests, which i find very intriguing was supposedly in executive order that was drafted about election integrity. trump was going to try to issue some sort of executive integrity, what was that? as was expected, trump has filed a notice that he attends to appeal this ruling to the d.c. appeals court but barring
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any movement on that, with this ruling from this judge tonight, all those documents, all the documents that the investigation is seeking, are now expected to be turned over to the january 6th investigation by the end of this week. we'll see, we'll be right back. we'll be right back hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? what if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks? now they can. downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine
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that former president donald trump cannot block the january six investigation from getting his white house documents and records around the january 6th attack on the capital. he tried to assert executive privilege, the judge rejected that. he tried to claim the demand was over broad and unrelated to the public interest. the judge shut that down as well. this ruling, coming down, just this hour, we will have more head. undoubtedly. but now it's time for the last word with lawrence. >> good evening rachel, i was hoping it took another 30 seconds so i could try to read another page. >> it was a well written ruling, it was like a novel. >> i started reading on my phone, as i was walking down to here. i just got it on paper. here is the great news, for both of us, our first guest tonight is lawrence tribe, he has been reading that. he's going to translate all of it for us as we get into it. but it is a very important and

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