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six down with maybe a dozen or so more to do g in the latest round of subpoenas from the january 6th committee which is expanding its investigation into people close to former president donald trump and their potential links to the attack on the capitol. we know those subpoenas have been signed. we know they could go out really any day and today we're hearing from one of the people who has just been subpoenaed by those investigators within the last 24 hours. bernard carrick coming out swinging, what he's saying. plus a new legal setback for trump lawyers. a judge denying their emergency motion to temporarily block the national archives from turning over white house documents to the january 6th committee. we got a lot going on this afternoon as always, a lot going on right here in washington, where i'm posted up with the rest of our nbc news team. leigh ann caldwell, kelly o'donnell, pete williams and chuck williams, former msnbc
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contributor. pete, the news about this new hurdle potentially right for team trump as it relates to secret documents the committee investigators want to see that team trump doesn't want them to see. >> you talked about witnesses. this is about the documents they want from the national archives the january 6th committee. i don't know if i'd describe this so much as a setback as a miniature review for the trump lawyers about how the law actually works. we're waiting for a district court judge here in washington to rule on the main question in this case, how much executive privilege does a former president like donald trump have and how much can he have if the current occupant in the white house decides not to exert it over the document. is it up to the former president, the current president? we're waiting for the judge to rule on that. late last night one of mr. trump's lawyers said okay, judge, while we're waiting for a ruling for you, we want you to give us a temporary injunction
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now so if you decide to rule against us, then we don't have to go up to the court of appeals to get an injunction. we'll already have one all set ready to go and the judge said, well, actually doesn't work like for that. you can't ask for an injunction until i rule and i haven't ruled yet. maybe more of a lesson in the law than a setback. >> leigh ann, pete made the distenks between witnesses and documents. a half dozen people close to former president trump were subpoenaed. it broke on this show 24 hours ago and yet we think there are still more subpoenas to come based on public comments made by committee chair bennie thompson. where do things stand? >> that's right, hallie. i was speaking with representative thomason last week and told me last thursday he signed 20 subpoenas that were ready to go. we've seen six of those so far, six big ones that came out yesterday including john eastman who wrote the letter, the memo with outlining six points how
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mike pence could overturn the electoral college results january 6th, including bill steppian, his former campaign manager. that's 6 of 20. there could be 14 around, give or take, that we are waiting for as early as this week so we have our eyes peeled, the committee says that there will be more but we just don't know exactly when quite yet, and when exactly they'll be released, hallie. >> kelly, so far with the round released we heard of the six people over the last 24 hours from one of them and as bernard carrick, former nypd commissioner. what he's saying? >> he comes into the picture as an associate of rudy giuliani, of course their new york days and someone we saw frequently with president trump at bedminster for example or some of the events around the
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president and he in his statement says that the committee's choice to publicly defame me and try to undermine my information before they even had the opportunity to review it, perfectly demonstrates why the american people do not trust our political institutions and the career politicians who run them. he goes on to say i am demanding that the committee either retract this defamatory press release and apologize or admit this is purely a partisan stunt and they aren't truly looking for the truth, bernard carrick, who had been previously the police commissioner in new york city. he's also one of the recipients of a pardon from president trump for unrelated conviction in the past. so he put out this statement others in that group of six have not responded to our inquiries about their connection to the january 6 committee and intentions about how they are going to participate, but carrick is one of those who much in the style that we've seen of others in the trump orbit has
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that sort of pugelistic approach and fighting back and trying to put some of the pressure back on the committee, that is the approach he's taking and see if the committee has any further response to that. hallie? >> chuck, the committee wants to hear -- kell thank you -- from angela mccallum, former trump aide, executive assistant. the committee said she was part of this pressure campaign on state officials and left this voice mail last december for a state rep. in michigan. i want to play it. >> we want to know when there's a resolution in the house to appoint electors for trump, if the president can count on you to join in support. >> if she cooperates, chuck, how does her testimony fit into the bigger pig tour as you see it? >> if she cooperates it's a good guess she didn't decide to call this person on her own. who asked her to do it? what conversations led up to that? we already know a lot about the
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january 6th attack on the capital. this is not quantum physics. we're not looking for subatomic particles. we're looking for as many people who had contact with trump and the trump campaign and the people around trump to tell us the truth, and so if angela mccallum is one of them, all the better. we know what happened but we don't have all the details. the committee does its work well and enough people cooperate and enough of the people who are cooperating have a good recollection and willing to tell the truth. we start to film the details and that's what matters here. one other thing to point out, hallie, you know this, but congress has no ability to prosecute anyone for anything forever. they're not prosecutors. all they're trying to do and a worthy goal to assemble as many facts as they to make it an historical record of what happened, as "the washington post" did in a recent series before, during and after the attack on the capitol. >> leigh ann, how do you see
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this progressing next? >> it's a great question. they're continuing the subpoenas. remember that they are subpoenaing the people who they think will not cooperate, and so these tend to be the people who are closest to the former president, people who have still the most loyalty to him, but outside of the subpoenas, there are still communications and discussions and interviews that are ongoing. bennie thompson told me last week they talked to about 150 people around the country about january 6th and the former president's attempt to overturn the election result and in addition to that, hallie, there's thousands and thousands of pages of documents that the committee has received from media and telecommunications companies as well, and you know, we are also asking when the next public hearing is going to be. we thought it was going to be before thanksgiving. representative thompson told ali
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vitaly he doesn't think it's before thanksgiving. there is the investigative fact-finding phase. >> leeann caldwell, kelly o'donnell, pete williams, chuck rosenberg. thank you. new details about the investigation into the deadly astroworld festival, with the fbi, the feds now stepping in to help in the criminal investigation as on the civil side, you have lawsuits piling up and the county judge calls for an independent investigation. houston's fire chief is talking with nbc news about questions over the roll of travis scott, who you know was on stage at the time, suggesting he could have stopped, he could have paused the concert when he started seeing signs that something was wrong. watch. >> at one point, there was an ambulance that was trying to make its way through the crowd, and he's got the artist has
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command of that crowd. >> is there any evidence that you've collected that suggests in any way he initiated this? >> no, not at this point. i'm not prepared to say that. i'm not prepared to say that he was fully aware of what was going on. >> travis scott's girlfriend kylie jenner said she and travis "were not aware of any fatalities" until the news came out of the show and in no world would have continued filming or performing. shaquille brucer is there now. you're in front of the line of flowers, this wall honoring the victims here getting bigger and bigger every day as we get a clearer and clearer picture of what happened in that horrific crush in the crowd on friday night including more details about i think a 9-year-old on life support. tell me what you know. >> let's start with the 9-year-old, hallie. i spoke to the family attorney got an update on the condition, ezra blunt, e.b., on his father's shoulders at the
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concert. his father survived but ezra is currently fighting for his little life. according to the family attorneys, he is in a medically induced coma with severe brain and kidney injuries. listen to what the family attorney told me about how the family is handling the situation right now. >> obviously they are devastated, they are very emotional, they have to consider decisions no parent would want to consider. i think his father has said over and over again, if there was a fatal injury, why wasn't it me, not my chile, not my only son. >> so the family's continuing to ask for prayers so this tragedy doesn't continue to expand. i was talking to the family attorney. the family filed a lawsuit against travis scott and the organizers, one of the many that we've seen today, by the minute we have another lawsuit, another
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plaintiff in this situation. he went in and got us a view of the scene there and talked about it looking like a war zone, an active scene with shoes left there, articles of clothing still on the ground there. you mentioned the focus is now shifting a little bit more to travis scott in his actions, why did that show continue and what could he have done, should have been done in that instance. we did hear from the chief of police who said that there was a security presence there. he said there were about 500 houston police officers at the event there on top of the more than 750 private security officers that were there to staff the event. we also know that for any event like this, there's permitting that's required, contingency planning that must be done. all of that is going to be in focus as this investigation continues. you mentioned the videos that are out there, we're talking about videos, not just that were posted to social media but also videos that people still have in
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their possession. they are asking members of the public and community, people who attended this festival to submit as much of that evidence as they have so they continue this investigation. >> people on the phones they didn't post and investigators want to see one of the incidents has done is put a spotlight on a couple of past things that have happened, performances by travis scott. tell us more about this and what you're learning there. >> something the attorneys are mentioning and many of the lawsuits they are cuesing scott of creating this culture, you have a situation leads to tragedies like this one and pointing specifically to two instances. 2015 in chicago at lollapalooza and another 2017 event, travis scott, i want to make sure i get this charge right, pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct, he encouraged friends to bypass security and we also know as
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part of that police officer who was acting as private security was injured in that. it is very important to know, hallie, again, you heard that from the fire chief earlier today. no one is saying or suggesting that travis scott encouraged what we saw at that show this past weekend. however, it's definitely being used as a way for attorneys to kind of beef up their claims and say there's this culture that was there and this should have been avoided or there should have been more precautions in place and that there were warning signs that this was going to happen. i should also note that travis scott through kylie jenner has said they were not aware how serious this was. sources at astroworld tell nbc news that they were not clear on the size of the tragedy that was unfolding, as he was on stage. there are videos of him pointing to the crowd. sometimes pausing his show and telling people to clear out some path or directing security members to a person who he thought had fainted at the time,
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according to what he was saying on stage but there's the bigger question of why this show continued and whether or not all the precautions that were there, that were in place, whether or not those were followed. that's going to continue to be the focus of this investigation as it continues. brewster, than. back to leigh ann caldwell, chuck rosenberg is with us. leigh ann, we talked about it at the top of the show, more subpoenas coming from the january 6th select committee, they are out and relate to names that i know you and our viewers know. talk us through. >> absolutely. new batch of subpoenas released and names we know about, kylie mcananey, press secretary for the former president, at the podium every single day, ben williamson, someone who was a top aid to mark meadows, former
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president's chief of staff and his former communications director as well. steven miller is on this list, he has been one of the former president's longest and most loyal advisers. it says about him that he, his efforts to spread false voter information about alleged voter fraud in the november 2020 elections as well as efforts to encourage state legislatures to alter the outcome of the november 2020 election by appointing alternate slates of electors. those are three of, and this just came out of the dozen ten who were just -- >> it's ten people. let me go through the names. kayleigh mcenany, former white house press secretary subpoenaed by the select committee. i'll read the other names, coming from the committee as we speak. we'll talk through what they are and talk a little bit more with
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chuck about what this means. nick luna, former personal assistant, body man to donald trump, the committee says he was in in the oval office the morning of the 6th when the former president was on a call to the then vice president pressuring him to certify the results. molly michael, sits in the inner circle, close to the oval office, close to the former president trump, she's been subpoenaed, ben williamson, the right-hand guy to chief of staff mark meadows, chief of staff at the time. chris liddell, former white house deputy chief of staff also subpoenaed, he had reportedly considered resigning on the 6th but stayed after what the committee calls a great deal of persuasion. john mcentee, white house personnel director, may have been involved in conversations related to the former president's push to continue to deny the results of the legitimate election. keith kellogg, vice president
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pence's national security adviser, steven miller, kayleigh mcenany, kathy hutchinson and kennic kwiatkowski and geoffrey clark has been called in front of the select committee already. i don't know if kelly o'donnell is with us. i want to see if we can get her back to i acamera. she and i covered the figures for many years in the trump administration but chuck, let me go to you. this is another batch of subpoenas, not all together unexpected we would be seeing some of these names called to the carpet in front of the select committee. when you take this batch of names, and again, stephen miller that's his picture. chuck, talk about the significance of the names out now and what this says about the investigation.
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>> these folks are near and around the president. the committee tries to develop the most historical and accurate record it can of what the president did, what he knew and when he did it, to quote howard baker, former tennessee senator, they need to talk to these people who were in the white house around the white house, talking to trump, feeding him information about the election, encouraging him either to contest joe biden's clearer electoral victory or to accept it. we'd like to know what the folks said to the president and what the president said to them. leigh ann said earlier and it was an important point that more than 100 people, i think she said 150 have already been interviewed by the committee. the committee has thousands and thousands of documents. they have a ton of information. they need to know what the president knew. the way to determine that is to talk to people around him. that's what they're trying to do
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here. >> trying to do it but in some cases getting blocked by the claims former president trump is trying to make of executive privilege. chug jason miller, bill steppian, campaignside folks not employed as white house staffers at the time of the insurrection they were subpoenaed yesterday, weaker claim to this executive privilege claim that donald trump is trying to make. people we're talking about today, many actively working at the white house employed in the trump white house. does that give in your view any support or does that boost the idea they could say? donald trump says we claim executive privilege, we have to defer to him. does it bolster their case at all? >> they might say the former president asserted executive privilege and we'll defer to the
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courts before they sort it out. a former president doesn't really have much if any of an executive privilege. that thing belongs to current presidents. joe biden has executive privilege and donald trump doesn't. there mite be a case the supreme court said in 1977 where a former president might have some claim of executive privilege and one way of testing it, one way of determining if that former president's claim is valid is see how the current president feels about it. joe biden indicated he's not inclined to a certain privilege of any sort on behalf of donald trump. i don't see how this claim wins but that's not their strategy, hallie. their strategy is to assert a claim and try and run out the clock and that would really be deeply unfortunate if that were to happen. >> leigh ann, now that you're
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reading through the materials out there as it relates to the subpoenas, is there anything else that stands out to you that you think our viewers should know about? >> these were people around physically the president the former president january 5th and 6th including one of his personal executive assistant, nicholas luna, in the oval office with the former president on the morning of january 6th, apparently he had a phone call with the former vice president mike pence and so these people, while all these people that we've been talking about, the ring of people around the former president and each batch of subpoenas has gotten closer and closer. the last batch were people who were influential and high level people around the former president, these are people who had daily interactions with him, multiple interactions with him, and who perhaps were with him on january 6th.
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mcentee walked with the former president to the ellipse for the rally on january 6th as well and so these people could have insight into what he was saying on that day, what he was thinking, who he was talking to and what sort of directions he was giving, hallie. >> it's a good point and this is actually leigh ann getting to the point i wanted to make with kelly o'donnell, my colleague covering the trump white house for a long time, sorry, i'm fixing my earpiece, these are people, physical proximity to the former president. these are the folks who like if you watch, we'd play sometimes donald trump getting on marine i. there are aides that trail behind him that aren't the names we know and talk about. they get on the chopper with donald trump earlier but the people always around with their offices close to the oval office, just kind of constantly in the ether of the white house in addition to people like again
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stephen miller and kayleigh mcenany, involved in policy and communications discussions on a variety of matters at the white house. mark murray is joining us as well. if you are here, i'd love to see your face. there you are. your reaction to what we're learning today? this is batch number two in two days from the january 6th select committee. does it indicate the pace is picking up at all as we get closer to the end of the year year? >> absolutely, hallie, from last summer there was a trickle of news and activity that was coming from the january 6th committee, but i just want to emphasize a point that leigh ann was making to you and you were talking about just the proximity to all this latest batch of subpoenas to the former president. one of the biggest mysteries that we still don't have information on is what was in the president's mind, what was he saying and doing? we end up seeing the tweets on january 6th in the aftermath. we've heard reporting from news
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outlets what the president was thinking or doing but nothing that's actually been sworn testimony, and so many other components of january 6th, the people who committed the crimes, the people, how they were able to storm into the capitol, the speeches that we ended up hearing before that event. we know that's well chronicled but the biggest piece of the puzzle that still is miss something what the president was thinking, saying and doing and it does seem this latest batch of subpoenas is going to try at least to get an answer to those questions. >> good point. chuck, let me bring you on the fallout that could potential lay rise if some of the folks decide not to comply with the subpoenas from the january 6 select committee. we saw them make a contempt referral as it relates to steve bannon. in many instances like i know when that happened we talked to you and others that's a strong signal to other people getting subpoenas from this committee, too, no? >> yes.
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first of all, it's a strong signal but again, the committee has no authority to prosecute. the best they can do is refer that case to the department of justice and then the justice department makes its determination. but let me just make sort of a distinction between two types of contempt and might help your viewers. civil contempt is an effort to get someone to comply, say mark murray is subpoenaed. you could fine him $100 a day until he produces it. mark murray holds the key. once he turns over the documents that civil contempt is gone. what they're trying to do with steve bannon is different. it's not civil contempt. they're not now trying to force his testimony. what they're trying to do is punish him for refusing to cooperate. that's criminal contempt, looking to convict him and put him in jail and they need the justice department to help them do it. so criminal contempt sends a very strong signal to other
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would-be witnesses that if they're playing games, if they're refusing to cooperate, this could happen to them, too. but there's a big question mark right now. what will the justice department do with that referral? >> good point. i believe kelly o'donnell is with us now and if she is, hi kel. >> hi, i'm back with you. i have not heard all of your conversation here as i was in the white house. >> that's okay. you're doing your thing. i get it. totally, kel. the reason why i wanted to bring you in here, kelly, there are names on this list and i want to see if you can draw up that graphic again and pull up the people subpoenaed in this latest round. kelly, we know many of us people who watch this network know kayleigh mcenany and stephen miller and probably keith kellogg if you're into national security. molly michael, mike will you in a, john mcentee and john
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cassidy. you covered this whois for a long time know their faces. they were always around, people we would see in the tape playback behind the president, next to the president, not the principles but those supporting the principles and to dhuk' point, they want to know what former president trump was saying on the critical days leading up to and on the riot. >> when history books are written, what they have to say, they are the footnote in the story always the most interesting. molly michael was the president's personal secretary, if you will. she was sitting at the door of the oval office. she knew everything on his calendar, every phone call that he dealt with. nick luna was the personal assistant to the president. so every interaction he had, every piece of paper on his desk, he would have dealt with. you can't get any closer than that.
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so those are very key interactions to know the mood of the president, who was in the room, who was speaking with him, what was the nature of who he wanted to see in terms of gatekeepers to the president, very, very important. johnny mcentee who had previously been in that role was in charge of personnel at the time. keith kellogg on this list, he's at the interesting intersection between the vice president and the president. keith kellogg had been national security adviser to vice president pence, who of course was a key player in all of this, but he was very much a creature of the west wing, has a new book out as well, i'm sure they're interested in reading what's in that, he is a key figure. stephen miller is well-known to the public, a prominent adviser, speechwriter and so forth. cassidy hutchinson i believe she was with the president. i was covering that, save america, as they called it, strangely named but that was what they called that rally that
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day. when you look at this band of people, ben williamson was the closest adviser to mark meadows who was then chief of staff. so it's sort of like a little memory book for you and i, hallie, having covered the trump white house through all those years. these are names that were familiar to us and no surprise that the committee would want to know what these people knew, what their own records may have kept. we know that certainly people who work in white houses often keep their own documents, their own calendars, their own records for their own purposes. it's an extraordinary experience to work in a white house, separate from these event. the committee would want to know those things, their own email and phone records as well as their memories and interactions with the president, and if you want the close in ring to donald trump on this day, these are some of the names that are certainly able to provide that information, if they are willing to do so, and they would also be
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a part of whatever argument donald trump would make about executive privilege, when you're talking about his personal assistant and his secretarial type assistant and so forth. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you so much for hustling back to the camera for us to talk through this breaking news this hour, chuck rose emberg, mark murray i appreciate your perspective and analysis. busy afternoon here as you see by what's what happened. we'll take a quick break and come back and talk more about an nbc news exclusive, something will you only see on this show as it relates to january 6th, why the va secretary tells us's worried about misinformation in the military in the aftermath of what happened that day. but first as we go to break, we want to leave with you a look at the new show launching on our streaming channel, nbc news now monday every night 5:00 eastern. hope to see you there.
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perform for them, engaged and still serve. and so it doesn't surprise me that even bad actors want to tap into that energy. so does it worry me? yeah, it worries me. >> another concern that secretary mcdonough spoke about was the mental health of veterans. during the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan, the va saw an uptick of 7% of phone calls and text messages to the veteran crisis line. that transcended across the veteran community, all different ages, people who didn't actually serve in afghanistan but who called in distress, needing support. this is what he had to say about how the va is dealing with that issue. >> there is such demand for mental health care among veterans but really among the whole country in light of the pandemic. sometimes i fear there's outliers in our system where it takes too long for veterans to get care. so we're working through that. if we find a vet who is not
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(all) to screening! breaking this afternoon, pfizer now officially asking for the fda to green light its booster shot for everybody. everybody ages 18 and up. right now, pfizer's booster is only authorized for certain groups, people who are 65 and older, people who are at high risk because of a medical condition or what they do for a living. now pfizer's request is going to be considered by thefda, making a final decision sometime in the coming weeks. we'll keep an eye on that. we're following something else, more urgent calls for the release of former u.s. marine trevor reed from russia, after new word now that reed is on a hunger strike to protest violations of his rights. reed's parents saying in a statement a russian attorney gave them the update. they're worried about his health, hoping to meet with president joe biden and jake
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sullivan next month. in a statement, russian prison officials denied that reed was on a hunger strike. he was sentenced to nine years in prison in july, russian police accused him of grabbing the arm of one officer and elbowing another when he was in a patrol car in 2019. police have been called because he was apparently drunk near a busy road. we been in the country studying the language and visiting a girlfriend. the ambassador called the case flimsy and preposterous. in june, russian president vladimir putin called reed a troublemaker. i want to bring in back on the show trevor reed's father, joey reed. good afternoon and thank you for being back on with us. >> thank you for having me. >> it's my understanding it's been a few months since you and paula have been able to speak with trevor. how much do you know how he's doing today and how are you getting updates? >> we've had two attorneys, local attorneys visit him and the ambassador sullivan visited him about a month ago, and that's the only way we're
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getting any information about him, because refusing to let him write or make any phone calls or anything of that nature. we're getting bits and pieces. he wrote some letters to an attorney we just got and saying that he was going on a hunger strike on november 4th and he wrote down in several complaints in a couple of letters and if he says he's doing something like that, he's doing it. >> explain the conditions that have created what he feels is this need for a hunger strike. some context on how his treatment is different from russian citizens being held in the facility where he is. >> well, to start with, he has his false arrest and false imprisonment and the false conviction. he has the longest sentence in modern russian history and no one was injured, even if he did what they said he did, it was a minor violation and a citation, but he didn't do it. we have witnesses and that's the main thing he wants to get out there is that he is innocent but as far as his treatment, all along he's been treated
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differently, all russian citizens get railroaded to a certain extent in court. he was, they broke all the rules to ensure he got the longest sentence ever and in prison he's been treated differently. other foreign prisoners have been allowed to communicate in their native language, get letters and books in their native language but he never has been allowed to, and now that's been sent to a labor camp, a gulag in mordobia he's refused in work and therefore placed in solitary confinement and basically denied all rights and in violation of articles of european human rights and russian laws. >> so just clarify, when was the last time you heard from him directly, via letter or other means? >> we got a letter that he wrote and gave to the attorney when he visited, when the attorney visited him, but other than that -- right, included several
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things about the violations of things going on there, mistreatment of prisoners and him not being given warm clothes for about a month until they turned on the heaters. he's in the smallest room in solitary confinement, there's a hole in the floor to use as a toilet, a fold-down bed, i'm sure is you know, very uncomfortable and he can't use that until after 10:00 at night until the sun comes up, and if he lays down on the bench, he gets additional days of solitary confinement. the prisoners are paid $2.80 a month and forced to spend the $2.80 for pastries, and this is all in violation of russian law so the list goes on and on. >> i know that you are interested in talking with president biden, and in others of the administration like for example jake sullivan, the national security adviser. have you heard anything from anybody at the biden administration since you've gone public about the hunger strike, any word back about a possible
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meeting? >> no, not yet. we've spoken with the representatives of the administration, smoking with secretary blinken and speak with roger carson's office weekly and the embassy sometimes day lp. we'd like to speak to the man who is going to make the final decision on any type of aagreement and that's the president and his national security adviser. >> what more do you think could be done for his part? >> obviously the russians want something, and that was clear when they gave him the longest sentence in history, and so we think that they took paul weiland and didn't get what they wanted for him so they added to the deal, and so we're sure there's some sort of deal that could be reached that would make both parties comfortable and they just need to get with it and make some sort of agreement. >> let me ask you this, mr. reed, before i let you go, i will be honest with you a difficult question for me to even have to ask you, a father who is watching your son go
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through this. are you at all concerned that your son may not make it through this hunger strike okay? >> well, we hope that he has enough sense to stop it at a safe point. we're very concerned, my wife is distraught over what's going on and not being able to actually know what's happening, so we're very worried and plus the conditions there aren't good to begin with. there's no medical care, to add on the hunger strike, it's very disconcerting. >> joey reed, i'm so appreciative for you to take the time to talk about the updates this afternoon. please keep us updated always and we really appreciate you being with us. thank you. >> thank you. and please keep telling his story. >> we will. next up, other news this afternoon, including another interview you will only see here, with the now former high school principal at the center of a nationwide fight over critical race theory. we're live in texas.
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a tegz high school principal being forced to resign after he was accused of promoting critical race theory. the principal, dr. james whitfield. he came under fire from parents anned school board members after they said he was promoting this critical race theory thing. turns out, he was not. the school board even admitted it, but they pushed the principal out anyway. one person said the move paints a dark picture for the future of their district. >> this paints a horrible picture for our district because what it says to a lot of people including students, teachers, and administrators, if somebody has an ax to grind with you, they'll take it to the board and the next thing you know, your
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job. >> i want to bring in antonio hilton. you talked exclusively with dr. whitfield. tell us about his perspective on getting dragged into this national issue. >> you know, i actually asked him that question directly and at one point, what he said to me is there's some frustration with this. he didn't ask for this is what he told me. he wanted to be a principal. he wanted to be in the classroom, in his office, interacting with kids every day this year and has been incredibly upset that he hasn't had that opportunity. there's also this awareness now that this is so much bigger than him. texas is one of eight states with new, broad laws banning the critical race theory and he's aware that you know, while this has become a national story, people have been talking about his case for months now since he was suspended back in late
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august. what teachers and administrators who aren't in the spotlight is maybe this would happen to me, too, if i didn't speak up or maybe my administration won't protect me. take a listen to the conversation i had with him last night right after this news broke. >> this is beyond me. there are so many people that are going through experiences based on the legislation that's come out in certain states. i'm hopeful that we can use this to move forward and progress. right? and get some meaningful change. people to be okay with teaching truth. >> right now, dr. whitfield does not know what he's going to do next so he hopes to return to education and he's really right now focused on raising the alarm for other educators, many of whom have been leaving the
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field. after a really difficult year and a pandemic, the concern of the ability to talk ability race and history will make other teachers fearful about staying on as their jobs get politicized and that's going to be his focus, here in texas and also beyond. >> what else have you heard from people as you've been there in texas? >> well, last night what we saw as this meeting room behind me here was completely packed with parents, residents, young students here. most of whom came out in support for dr. whitfield, was really disgust, fear. people said they believed this was racially motivate and fear this was going to change the tenor of their community, that it is going to irreparably harm their reputation, the conversations their students get to have and the quality of educators they have access to. and there were a small number of
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people who supported his firing. who have supported laws like the new ones we see here in texas that are set to restrict the ways teachers can talk about race and history. what books may be available in the classroom in coming months. so that tension is still going to be here in the community. dr. whitfield's story here in gcisd may be over, but the fight isn't over. there's a keen awareness here on both sides that this is going to come up again. whether it's cases surrounding other teachers and administrators or extending into the political realm as people prepare for another round of elections. and of course, the midterms, too. there's a sense this is just the beginning. >> great reporting. appreciate you being with us and appreciate you watching this hour. a busy one, as they often are. we're going to have our reporting from the show on twitter including the breaking news of the new subpoenas now
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that have been issued against some of former president trump's allies and aides inside the white house. see you back here same time, same place, tomorrow, but deadline white house will start right after this quick break.
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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. the january 6 committee throwing down the gauntlet, issuing a second batch of subpoenas in
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just as many days. this time to some big names in donald trump's inner circle. they include former white house press secretary, who used her position at the podium to spread the big lie and was a white house insider in the final days of the trump administration. as well as steven miller. in a letter to miller, the committee notes his role in spreading voter fraud conspiracies and notes he and his team prepared the speech that led to the insurrection. also, john mcatee. he's described as quote, trump's favorite enforcer and new reporting in a book by jonathan carl portrays him as instrumental in a pressure campaign to get vice president mike pence to disrupt the certification of the vote on january 6th. also among those ten subpoenas, national security adviser to the vice president, keith


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