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continued with "the 11th hour" with my colleague brian williams now. indeed, good evening, once again, day 290 of the biden administration. it's been a long confusing day of starts and stops on that long awaited vote on president biden's economic proposals. we must add after months of blue on blue democratic in-fighting the house just reconvened and an actual vote is under way. we know you're not used to seeing this. we will explain it all when we go to our hill correspondent in moments. the president has been pressuring democrats all day to pass his agenda and it read in part i am urging all members to vote for both the rule for consideration of the build back better act and final passage of
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the bipartisan infrastructure bill tonight. i am confident that during the week of november 15, mark your calendars, the house will pass the build back better act. of course, they can't do it any sooner because both the house and senate are off next week. the white house says the president who canceled his trip home to delaware is in the residence portion of the white house with his vice president, his policy team, his legislative team staying in touch with house leadership and members. earlier tonight democratic congressman mark pocan wrapped it up in his own way. >> the whole day was a cluster [ bleep ]. but we beyond that i was just up there when we were going through this a little while ago, an hour or so ago, i thought everyone was working -- rank and file now how to get it [ bleep ] done.
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>> better in the unbleeped version. in charge of the januaryth investigation, former trump doj official jeffrey clark showed up for his planned deposition. clark played a role in the former president's effort to overturn the 200 election as you may know but politico reports he refused to answer substantive questions, instead he delivered a letter from his lawyer defending his refusal to testify and citing potential executive privilege and that won't fly. committee chairman bennie thompson told politico his refusal could lead to a referral to the doj for contempt of congress saying that's on the table. earlier tonight democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy was asked about it. >> we were deeply disappointed somebody who so recently held an office of public trust to uphold the constitution willfully showed up in front of our
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committee and tried to obstruct justice and refused to provide information. so he will have a short amount of time before we take our next step, but we don't have a ton of patience and are willing to use contempt. >> all of today's developments on capitol hill are managing to overshadow surprisingly good economic news for this administration. this morning, the labor department said there were 553,000 -- 531,000 jobs created in october. that's why i don't work for the labor department blowing past predictions of 450,000 new jobs. unemployment rate fell from 4.8% to 4.6%. earlier today the president said the strong numbers prove his administration's policies are working. >> we're the fastest growing major economy and one creating jobs at a faster pace than anyone, yet, yes, there's a lot more to be done. we still have to tackle the cost
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that american families are facing but this recovery is faster, stronger and fairer and wider than almost anyone could have predicted. that's what the numbers say. >> that was also more good news in the fight against the pandemic. pfizer said its new pill to treat covid-19 has been found to be highly effective in clinical trials. the company says the antiviral pill when combined with a low dose of an hiv drug can reduce hospitalizations or deaths by up to 89% among high risk people. remember, this is not a prevention, it's not a vaccine, it's a treatment for when you get covid. and there was this prediction today from the former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb who also sits on pfizer's board says he suspects the pandemic could be over in just a matter of months. >> i think the bottom line is the end of the end of the
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pandemic at least as it relates to the united states is in sight given all the tools we have to combat it. by january 4th this may well be over at least as far as the united states and be more of an endemic phase of this virus. >> we'll talk about that in a bit. there's also growing pushback against the biden administration's vaccine mandates for companies with over 100 employees. this week the administration set january 4 as a deadline for workers to be fully vaccinated or get tested weekly for the virus. about a dozen states and several companies are now filing lawsuits, of course. arguing the federal government's vaccine requirement is unconstitutional. so we have a lot of work to do here tonight. let's bring in our starting line. jonathan lemire, veteran white house reporter and politico white house bureau chief and hosts "way too early" in his spare time 5:00 a.m. weekdays on this network.
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ali vitali and dr.er win redlinger. he advises us on public health and professor of pediatrics at albert einstein college of medicine in his spare time, but, ali, nation turns its lonely eyes to you. remember please your host is a bit slow so without any acronyms or use of the word reconciliation, i'm begging you to explain what we're witnessing go on in the house tonight, what it will result in and what it will give to americans. >> well, brian, i'll leave our beloved biff tag line on the hill. it is the bipartisan infrastructure bill that passed the senate now working its way through the house after many hours and much frustration in anticipation of this moment. what we've seen in the last half hour really is the coalescing of
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moderate and progressive factions that had previously been at odds over how this evening was going to go and saw a lot of stopping and starting on the part of house leadership because they were trying to bring all of these disparate parts together. moderates had been saying that they didn't want to move forward yet on the larger social spending package because they wanted to see a congressional budget office score. that would take weeks. instead progressives settled in the end for a letter saying from these moderates that they would vote on the larger social spending package basically in a week, during the week of november 15th, what they're doing in the thunderstorm term is making good on the progressive side that they will be there on this bipartisan infrastructure vote. when this passes the house and it does still look like it's going to it will go immediately to president joe biden's desk. this is a notched win for him on one-half of the infrastructure
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package that he has been pushing here on capitol hill for months and really what this shows is that in the same way that in the senate it passed with actual bipartisan support, it's doing the same thing here in the house. as i've been watching you give your introduction i have been watching our text chain for the capitol hill team keeping track of the republicans that are breaking ranks with their party and coming over to the democratic side on this. i'm noticing, for example, that there are some people from new york and new jersey on this list. people like john katko, jeff van drew, names our audience might know because they've been at odds with their party in various moments before. when you talk about the bill speaker nancy pelosi will tell you she thinks it's transformative, among the most transformative things she's ever had the opportunity to do on the hill and also says that's even considering the work she did on pushing through obamacare all of those years ago. so when they talk about that, they're talking about a trillion dollars in spending on the
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bipartisan infrastructure bill passing now but immediately after that they will move forward on a procedural vote for the social spending package that comes in at $1.75 trillion and includes things like half a trillion dollars for combating climate change, universal pre-k. bolstering child care. elder care, democratic priorities we've heard about for years on the campaign trail under the stewardship of democrats having both houses of congress. this is not the end of it. the house and senate both out next week but the house vowing to come back on the week of the 15th and vote for the actual build back better act which is the larger social spending bill thusly sending it to the senate. at that point changes are probably going to be made. there are things in the bill right now including four weeks of paid leave as well as immigration proposals that may not survive the senate. either because of reconciliation rules or the personalities that are up on the senate side who
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don't actually support those policies being in this bill. joe manchin, for example, does not want to see paid leave and reconciliation. the senate can decide to strip that out and may. it's going to go through a bird bath up here making sure all of the policies in here actually adhere to the rules of reconciliation where you have to meet a budgetary bottom line. you have to actually impact the budget in order to stay through this process that allows democrats to go it alone. that means once the senate is done it could look different but at least for now the house can say they have moved forward on half of this and can notch a win. >> ali, well done. jonathan, while ali takes on oxygen and nourishment noticing we also have a physician standing by, let me ask you what's going to be the white house's answer to the question, sure, now we get the orange traffic cones, now we get highways and bridges and
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airports and infrastructure. what has changed? why couldn't we have had this months ago? >> first of all, kudos to ali for that analysis. one democrat who is not happy with the timing of this being potentially done tonight, terry mcauliffe who of course was pleading with the white house and democrats on capitol hill to get this done before he faced voters on tuesday thinking he needed something to run on, of course, and that did not happen and he was defeated. the white house right now we know we talked to the white house aides and president is in the residence on the phone all day. he was supposed to head to rehoboth beach, one of his homes in delaware. it is unclear whether he will travel tomorrow or not. they're both lobbying members. it looks like with some help from republicans they'll get there. the white house has long said
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that and to be clear there is a long way to go on the reconciliation part and will change quite a bit in the senate and i don't think anyone is taking joe manchin's support for granted. the white house believes when they cross the finish line here the message -- the messy sausage making portion will have been worth it and will transform government's relationship with the citizens and really help americans in their everyday lives. and politically give democrats something too late for terry mcauliffe but give them something for next year for the midterms to bolster the president's legacy and to give democrats something to show voters tangible results unlike when president obama faced the midterms and trying to dig the nation out of an economic crisis it was slow going. it was trending in the right direction but a long way to go. democrats think they can show we're making lives better, yes, it was messy. yes, the president's poll numbers took a hit but they'll rebound and think voters will reward them next november.
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>> ironically, doctor, i'm looking at the former white house physician turned trumper republican texas congressman as he speaks on the house floor. these are a series of short remarks during the vote. doctor, blessedly i want to take you to a two-part question. how important is this new pfizer antiviral pill in the scheme of things and what do you think dr. gottlieb, former fda commissioner was talking about when he was talking about bringing down the curtain on the pandemic january 4th, which by the way would be wonderful. >> yes, so, but let's start, brian, with the easier question, which is so what do i make of the new oral antiviral drugs that will treat covid and treat it effectively. pfizer's drugs, pfizer's version of that was approved just now and in the uk merck has a similar drug approved over there. this is a big game changer,
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brian, as we talked about multiple times in the past. a big deal. those who get sick get a test for covid that turns positive, you will get a prescription and take it for five days and end up good chance not getting sick at all and certainly not of dieing with this. so it is a big deal. one downside, believe it or not, that is we would not like to see the development of these drugs deter people from getting vaccinated. these drugs will save lives and that's absolutely fantastic. but we don't want them to turn people away from consideration of getting the vaccine because getting the vaccine is going to be the way that we actually definitively get closer to putting a stop to all of this horrible pandemic we've been dealing with which leads me right to scott gottlieb's remarks which was a lot of eyebrows raised in washington and i spoke to a number of
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officials at the white house. everybody was pretty shocked that scott gottlieb, a former fda official, predicted, you know, that by january 4th we'll be pretty much out of the woods. no one is understanding exactly how he came to that conclusion and i guess some people just like walking on that thin ice of extreme wishful thinking which is morales what we're dealing with here. we all would like it to be over by january but not the slightest shred of evidence that will come true and as much as all of us would like to see an end to this as quickly as possible it's a little out there to be saying that we're going to be done with this in a couple of months. >> doctor, thank you for that. ali vitali, back on the hill. no plight way to ask this. when they pass the next bill, the build back better bill, what is left of that for joe manchin
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to screw up? >> well, he'll certainly have changes. we've been talking to him about this for the last few weeks. there are many democrats here who feel that that will screw it up but that the larger pieces of it are still transformative in nature. the thing that i think is really important here is paid leave, specifically, advocates here held a vigil for it last week when they thought that it was actually going to be out of the bill. the next day they found out house speaker nancy pelosi managed to shoehorn it back into the house version. i ran over to senator joe manchin's office at that point, told him those changes were being made and told me it's still very challenging for him to support this in part because he doesn't think that it abides by the rules of the reconciliation process, apologies for using that forbidden word but he thinks they should be dong in a bipartisan fashion as a stand-alone bill outside of this social spending package. i think really where the breakdown will come or could come on the build back better
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package is the leverage that progressives in the house had on this was sort of holding the bipartisan infrastructure bill in tandem with this build back better act because they wanted to make sure that both pressed forward and that there was momentum behind each of them. they've now lost that leverage as soon as this bipartisan infrastructure bill passes and what could happen in the senate is that people like senator joe manchin have repeatedly said they don't feel the need to rush this, in fact, he has said repeatedly let's take the time to get this right. progressives on the other hand, though, here in the house and in the senate would like to see movement on this quickly because you know this as well, brian, political momentum can vanish, especially as you get closer to midterm year, especially after you have nights like tuesday in virginia and new jersey where some democrats start to question whether or not they actually have a mandate to do these kinds of sweeping changes. people can get policy cooled feet. that's what democrats are trying to avoid by continuing to keep the pressure on here.
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the white house will certainly have a role to play in that but this bill, make no mistake, even once it passes the house is going to look really different after the senate is done with it. >> and let's keep up that graphic of the vote on the right. i'm being told that a couple of democrats have gone over to vote against the bill, aoc among them but as ali pointed out there is republican crossover in an 8-5 margin which cancels out the loss of some of the democrats though the democrats do not have a healthy cushion in the house of representatives. but we're seeing applause on the democratic side of the aisle. jonathan, coming off ali's comments i want to read you something from katty kay today. she writes, white house and congressional democrats say no one will remember the process or the delays if/when these two
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bills pass. it's a fair point but at some stage a reputation for competence gets harmed by all these public missed deadlines and to ali's point, jonathan, not to mention the virginia governor's race, could she be right here? >> yeah, certainly that's what the white house aides would like to think, that americans as we've been discussing once these measures go into effect, that they will forget just the tortured process that got us there. i think i'm a little less certain of that and other democrats i've talked to close to the white house and some on capitol hill are worried about it too. president biden was elected, one of his key promises was to restore americans' faith in the government to show again that the u.s. government, the u.s. bureaucracy could deliver for its citizens after the four tumultuous years of then president trump but also as an example for the rest of the world, so much of his guiding
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principle is to show that democracies can be the best form of government on the plan threat and be a bulwark, an alternative to the rising hi tock kra sis. particularly since the democratic party has both houses of congress and the white house, so i think there is damage here. i think the months of bad headlines, you know, will pay -- take some sort of toll and i think it was this week that that headline, the gridlock and loss in virginia pushed democrats to bridge temporarily some of their divides to get it done so that's a negative, but the white house, they'll take the win. you can bet whether it's tomorrow or by monday, there's going to be some sort of rose garden ceremony to sign the infrastructure bill and taut it as a major accomplishment and rightly so, a major accomplishment for this president. >> right quick back we go to ali
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vitali. we can do math but armed with my high school degree i can read that there's 223 yeas, 202 nays. that appears to look like a victory. >> and it is. we saw speaker pelosi high-fiving some of her colleagues on the floor. we heard cheers from inside the chamber because this one was for all the marbles on the bipartisan infrastructure bill and at this point democrats have done it officially. >> all right, ali vitali, our reporter on the hill with the call of the victory for democrats, they're going to tracy chapman this bill, put it in a fast car, drive it down pennsylvania avenue and get it before the president asap so they can talk about a victory and deliverables to the american people. quick final question to dr. irwin redlener and our thanks
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for hanging out with us. a story on this later in the hour. i want to get you on the record on the aaron rodgers matter. he is, of course, an icon to football fans and packers fans chief among them and today, of course, was in the news for not being vaccinated and added bonus, he's covid positive. >> yeah, brian, so this is not like you or me or anybody we know simply deciding not to get vaccinated. this is a major sports figure, an american hero to many young people and others and for him to have been dishonest about the fact that he was not vaccinated, he called himself immunized to purposely, you know, kind of deceive all of us into thinking he was vaccinated but he's not and on top of that he is taking a lot of medications now because he's been positive for covid that have not been proven and all of this is a big problem for somebody who should know better
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who is really in the public eye and i think people in those positions have to understand that the world at least in the united states is looking at him. >> with our thanks to this panel, a great thanks as we just update our viewers, the infrastructure bill has passed so when you see the orange cones on i-95, on i-10 or if you're in california on the 10, please know that they dated back to this night. we're going to have to go through a little localized pain to build parts of the failing infrastructure in our country back up but there you see the winning tally. 228-204. to jonathan lemire, ali vitali on the hill and dr. irwin redlener, thanks. coming up, further discussion of the vote we just witnessed, the head knocking it
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we are not just a speak as one person and nobody else needs to show up. we're in the best place ever today to be able to go forward. >> cute turn of phrase there but it's a euphemism saying vitality and diversity are among the reasons this party has been unable to get out of its own way. as one of our next guests points out that depends on how you define, of course, the best place ever when you hear the speaker. before tonight's vote "the new york times" editorial board argued that democrats better pass something asap and wrote this in part, democrats agree about far more than they disagree about, but it doesn't look like that way to voters after months and months of intraparty squabbling. time to focus on and pass policies with broad support. or risk getting run out of office. important night to have these next two guests. don callaway, democratic strategist, founder of the
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national voter protection action fund and susan del percio, msnbc political analyst who is herself a veteran political strategist. well, good evening and welcome to you both. don, i got a tough one to start with here. there were several no votes on the part of the democrats, so names like presley, talib, omar, aoc, i don't know if you've been to aoc's district, the infrastructure there isn't perfect. not everything gleams. how is she going to go back to new york and say, nah, we're good with infrastructure? i voted no? >> because the people trust her. the people in her district trust her and know her enough to understand why she did it and did it because she didn't feel like the human infrastructure piece was there sufficient that she would be -- that she would be confident in going back and get full throated support.
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she's a political operative and understood the votes would be there without her. as young as she is equally savvy and understands if they are vote was needed to pass this bill she would have been on the yea side so what she did was a statement vote to show that she wants the democratic party to go further left to not assuage to the manchins, sinemas, republicans in the house and continue to edge rightward and feels it should have gone further. let's be clear, the people in her district are going to need the infrastructural upgrades this bill provides. she knows that and will go home next week in an act of political performance or dupliciiness and brag so it's all part of the political game. if her vote was necessary she would have done the right thing and voted for it. >> susan, think of the lingo and
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terminology we have thrown around. we've been on the air for 30 minutes and 45 seconds. it brings us to the topic of message we've been talking about. separate and apart from this vote tonight, i want to read what stephanie ruhle tweeted, these are tangible joe biden white house accomplishments, one, vaccinations, 2 million to 200 million. two, jobs created, 5 million. wages up, $2 per hour, four, dow up 5,000 points. if trump had one of these he would be wall-to-wall rose garden ceremony, prime time speeches and parades. susan, what is it and i mean this sincerely, will they ever learn messaging? >> i see no proof that that will happen as of this point in time and it's hard because, you know,
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republicans boil things down into, you know, inflation, you're facing inflation, whereas democrats want to give you an economic 101 lesson into why you may see inflation but it's really not that bad and it's going to come down and don't worry about it plus we have this legislation that will help. we've got your back, i'm telling you, trust us. it doesn't work like that. people go to the grocery store. they see higher prices, they fill up their gas tank, it costs more. and they are not feeling the impact of what's -- the actual good economic news and that's what i think the issue is with democrats' messaging is that they talk at their -- at the voters instead of talking with them and instead of i feel your pain they say i know what your pain is and i'm here to fix it. that's a problem. >> i got one for you, susan. democrats should consider this free advice from an ad man.
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this is donny deutsch earlier on this network talking about what should happen. >> a simple ad that has different people saying thank you. thank you for my new bridge, thank you for my medicare and pre-k, ticket off one by one but under an auspice up brel laugh the economic surge but let's stop with build back better. let's just say it's a sucky name. >> will anyone act on it? >> well, i think what the democrats seem to do is break out of the traditional road show, if you will. you know, they keep saying president biden wants to go on the road and sell this and tell the people how great it is. except that's not what always works in this day and age and right now they do have to communicate with people instead of talking at people as i said. how about this is government working for you, this is what we're doing for you and say, here's this plan, that plan.
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i mean they can't do it yet because they haven't passed the social net infrastructure part yet. but when it comes to bridge and tunnels it's really easy to show up at a ground breaking with a shovel and they need to show what that shovel means and how it's going to help that community. >> well, we all grew up looking at those highway signs that said say with it me, your tax dollars at work. it was always at the end of the roadblock after you lost two hours on your family vacation as if to make you feel better when traffic freed up again. hey, don, i understand you differed with mr. carville. >> oh, greatly. >> who blamed stupid wokeness on so many of the problems the democrats have had. >> there comes a time, i'm from st. louis, i'm a big fan of the spinks brother. bad day to see him beat muhammad ali but there comes a time when
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new leadership takes over if we are to survive. we might be there with mr. carville. i respect his contributions but no way he can look into a camera from his luxury home in louisiana or washington, d.c. and say wokeness is the problem with the democratic party. you eliminate the entire energy, the growth sector of the party. so my question to mr. carville is based upon the clip i saw yesterday is, what party of the quote/unquote woke -- what part of the woke agenda is your problem? is it the not include -- is it full inclusion of the lgbtqia plus community or full human infrastructure. what part are the woke-erati part of? i don't use my pronouns on zoom meetings but don't have a problem with the subject matter, the substance of where -- what he calls the woke folks are at. so i wonder what part of the woke agenda is he railing against?
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what part of the woke agenda does he say democrats should walk away from because what he's say something there is a section of people who should wait for their justice to be granted in this country, to wait for their full acceptance and their full inclusion to be brought fort in this country and i really wonder who is he willing to look in the face and say, wait for your justice, as we know justice delayed is justice denied. full inclusion and acceptance and being 23u8ly included in the american family is a part of our self-actualization so wonder what part democrats should not be talking about, what part should they not be campaigning on and easy for guys like jim carville to say the democrats have gone too far to the left or too far in favor of the woke crowd and wonder what part of that he's willing to say should be deferred another five, ten, 15 years while we placate moderates such as himself. >> we will in due time have mr. carville on and put to him
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all the questions you have asked here tonight. susan, i got one more for you and it goes back to the subtheme of branding. mandates. they have, of course, become red meat, the word is radioactive. it is viewed differently, surprise, surprise, in the two nations we have become. is there an alternative? >> well, the all -- it's not necessarily an alternative. the fact is we will see people more people getting vaccinated. we will have our children going to schools probably with a vaccine mandate come september. but it is a sensitive issue that mobilizes people because it has become representative of the sense of freedom of big government. right now people are tired. tired of covid. they don't want to be told what to do. even if they're vaccinated they're against the idea of a mandate and, you know, even in
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new york city we had a mayoral election and eric adams was going to win by huge numbers but he wouldn't get into the issue of mask -- vaccine mandates and i find that very interesting because it goes to show you that there is a strain of the electorate out there that could be with you on a whole host of issues but personal freedom it's a different thing. now, just for the record, brian, i actually look at it this way, you are not allowed to drive drunk, you're allowed to drink and you're allowed to stay at home. you're not allowed to go on the road because you could kill me or yourself therefore you should be required to also have a vaccination if you want to go to work on the subway, et cetera, because you have to keep everybody safe. this is a societal issue. >> you all heard it at home. don't drive drunk. get the vaccine. what a rock 'em sock 'em night to be on the air after the
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house, i hope you're sitting down, voted tonight, our thanks to don callaway, susan del percio for talking about all of it. we'll do this again. coming up for us, chris hadfield was the first canadian to ever walk in space. one of the first astronauts to go truly viral. now he's the author of a new thriller. he is standing by to talk with us. s not just a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising your blood pressure be there for life's best moments with coricidin. now in sugar free liquid.
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♪ this is ground control to major tom ♪ ♪ you've really made the grade ♪ >> that was our next guest, arguably next to buzz aldrin, the most famous living astronaut in the world. that was shot back when he was living on the international space station about nine years ago. these days thankfully for all of us, thankfully for all of us he is back on earth watching
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civilian space travel become a reality and so with us tonight retired astronaut chris hadfield. he is the first canadian to walk in space, flew on two shuttle missions, served importantly as commander of the international space station. he's a pilot, engineer, thinker, writer, author of several books. his latest is "the apollo murders." commander, it's a great treat to see you and talk to you again. so i'm reading the book. having never lifted off and left the surly bonds of earth i come to chapter 22, it felt like i was experiencing liftoff. i have never read a more gripping or graphic account of 3400 gallons a second of rocket fuel burning 300 feet beneath where you're seated. with that as our takeoff point, tell the folks at home who haven't had the pleasure about the book and the idea that led you to it.
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>> brian, great to talk with you. you haven't got to anything yet in that book. wait till you see what's coming. as you say i've flown in space three times and commanded the space station and just thought it would be such a rich way to share the experience of spaceflight to tell it not just through the factual books that i've written but through fiction, to let -- see how different personals would react. you know, and to have the tension of all of the things that just might have happened and my objective, brian, was to weave it in with so many real events of history so that you'll find i think as you read in the book you're going to have a hard time sorting out did this part really happen or not and there are some things in there that even i was surprised to discover through recently declassified documents when i was putting the book together and i'm just loving the fact that it's out now and the reaction all around the world, great article in "the new york times" about it and
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it's a best-seller in several countries so i think you're going to enjoy the rest of the book as well. >> indeed, congratulations to you. i noted those good reviews and knowing you were going to come on tonight. i've also been thinking about you a lot vis-a-vis what we've been seeing happen billionaire space travel. it occurs to me when cars came out there was some harumping. they'll be killed or take an eye out, ditto when civilians starting going up in biplanes and grumpy pilots saying this isn't for everybody. just ride along. you'll get killed or take an eye out. is this the dawn of a new era? >> yeah, i think it's really easy to get distracted by the lightning rod personalities of some of the billionaires in the world right now. but the technology is the really important thing.
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just like the car and the airplane and what's happened, the reason now it's no longer only trillionaires flying in space, you know, the soviet union, the united states, like in the book, but the fact that the price is coming down is because the technology has gotten so much better and simpler and safer. just like with cars and airplanes that it's opening all sorts of new opportunities for space commerce. the stuff that we count on, you know, for gps, for navigation and weather forecasting and communications and internet from space and understanding the changes to the world, that's what this really is allowing. and maybe some space tourism as well. and, yeah, we're still going to put some eyes out. it's still early days and we need a lot more regulation, you know, just like had to happen with cars and with airplanes to make it safe. but we're at a pretty interesting time in history and to listen to bill shatner come back and just pour forth emotion
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of how this shifted his whole per sense of the fragility of our atmosphere and the kind of the perspective of the world and he only had a 10 or 15-minute spaceflight, i think that side of it is really important too, brian. >> to our viewers a couple of notes. if you want to read the nonfiction real deal what it's like in space, look at chris hadfield's previous books. if fear is something you deal with in your life, look up commander hadfield's ted talk on that same topic. it's been viewed millions of times and also before we say good-bye, look at his lapel. that is the order of canada which means he's probably the greatest canadian export to the world since marty short. commander, it's great to see you. it's great to have you. the book is in my hand. it is called "the apollo murders."
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it is in stores. it is wherever you buy your books right now. great honor to have commander chris hadfield back on our broadcast tonight. thank you so much. and coming up for us, the news today from the world of sports that had nothing to do with sports. it had a lot more to do with vaccines. feel stuck with student loan debt? move to sofi and feel what it's like to get your money right. (phone chimes) ♪ ♪ ♪ i jump up on the stage ♪ ♪ and do my money dance ♪ ♪ i throw some money up ♪ ♪ and watch the money land ♪ ♪ i do my, i do my i do my money dance ♪ move your student loan debt to sofi - you could save with low rates and no fees. earn a $500 bonus when you refi... and get your money right. ♪ i do my money dance ♪
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as we mentioned earlier, number 12 there, aaron rodgers is in the news, not for anything good. he just happens to be having a spectacular season. he has been thrilling to watch this year. by extension his green bay packers are having a great year, but don't look for him in the lineup sunday when they take on mr. mahomes and the chiefs because aaron rodgers is in trouble and has covid. oh, and he's also unvaccinated. our report tonight from nbc news
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correspondent miguel almaguer. >> reporter: league mvp and the face of the nfl, aaron rodgers is breaking his silence after testing positive for covid. he discussed taking mon colonial antibodies and ivermectine, a drug the fda advises against using because of the risk of serious illness. it's often used to treat livestock. >> i believe strongly in bodily autonomy and ability to make choices for your body. >> reporter: rodgers says he consulted with joe rogan and revealed he never took one of the three authorized vaccines. >> i'm not, you know, some sort of antivaxxer. i am somebody who is a critical thinker. >> reporter: this after telling the immediate over the summer he was protected. >> are you vaccinated and what's your stats on vaccinations?
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>> yeah, i'm immunized. >> today rodgers who said the woke mob tried to cancel him insisting he was not misleading the public. >> my plan was to say that i had been immunized. it wasn't some sort of ruse or lie. it was the truth. >> he says he's allergic to ingredients in mrna vaccines and was concerned about j&j's side effects so received an immunization protocol to provide immunity against covid. now sidelined for at least ten days rodgers' loss may stretch beyond the football field impacting his public perception after fumbling his handling of his vaccination status. >> and coming up for us, it turns out listening to aleaf blower would have made more sense than what the news media was actually invited to this place to hear.
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trump campaign. rudy giuliani, the black goo secreter in chief standing in front of microphones at a yard care business. we hardly had time back then to ask why, what, with them busy trying to steal an election and us busy trying to cover all the crazy, but now it's all neatly explained in a new documentary airing on this network this coming sunday night. it's centered around the owners and employees of four seasons total landscaping who were just living their lives quite literally minding their own business in northeast philly when they got the call that they had been selected somehow to host a press conference for the president's campaign four days after the election. here's the trailer. >> we're a landscaping company. we're experts in irrigation, seeding, planting, not press
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conferences. >> why would the president's lawyers hold a press conference at a landscaping company? >> it was a pretty quick setup. obviously you saw it was on tv. it was a landscape construction yard. >> wow, what a beautiful day. thank you. >> we just had no idea what we were in for. >> oh, my goodness. all the networks. >> i remember asking did we make a mistake? >> we had a lot of haters. >> you have 1,010 new message. >> it created fear of what was ahead of us. >> we were put in a corner and used our humor to get out of it. >> all the network. >> they made a joke out of everything because it was funny to us. >> it's an american underdog story. >> for good reason it is called "four seasons total documentary" it airs 10:00 p.m. eastern time sunday night. the new time after we all turn our clocks back, don't forget, one hour this weekend.
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on that note that is our broadcast for this friday night and for this week with our thanks for being here with us. have a great weekend unless you have other plans. on behalf of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night.

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